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entanglements, trump media and technology group filed a lawsuit against two of the companies co-founders, demanding that they hand over their shares in the company. andy litinsky and wes moss had been failed contestants on trump's nbc show, the apprentice, when they botched several challenges, including a redesign of the pepsi bottle, who came up with the overall concept of this. >> and i said, we did that conversation a fire. wes, you're fired. awesome >> litinsky and moss had previously filed a lawsuit of their own against trump. there are also concerns tonight that if trump gets elected president and still holds onto his ownership of that media company, there would be a serious conflict of interest he'd be vulnerable to influence peddlers, black mailers, and when his government has to actually regulate other social media companies he's expected to deal with laws and regulations and government policies on social media we'll always
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>> be asking, did he make those regulatory decisions on social media to protect his own pocketbook >> some analysts >> say its current >> turbulent run does >> not mean it's game over >> for trump's social >> media company, >> but that it will have to >> grow a lot >> to compete with its >> rivals. they point out >> the truth, social that's just a tiny fraction of the monthly users that x and facebook have. wolf. very interesting. brian todd reporting for his brian, thanks very much to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. the news continues next on, cnn tonight on three 60. the judge he appointed says the former president cannot escape prosecution by claiming the highly classified documents he took were personal property that in her answer to potentially significant demand by the special counsel also tonight, the biden administration putting israel on note so this american support now hinging on israel's treatment of civilians in gaza plus
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countdown to eclipse or gary tuckman visits a town that seen better days, but is now looking up, thanks to its location in the path of monday's pick event good evening. thanks for joining us today aileen cannon gave special counsel, jack smith a victory of sorts, but denied him the the ruling he wants in the classified documents case. she rejected the former president's claim that he cannot be prosecuted because he converted the highly sensitive material into personal items under the presidential records act but she refused to do with special counsel smith wanted which is to officially clarify how she wants that law applied. if in fact it even should be smith wants to get her on records so we can ask the 11th circuit court of appeals to reverse her if needed, which the court has done before. today. judge cannon refused to be pinned down writing quote, the court declines that demand is unprecedented and unjust. now all this comes after mr. trump erupted on social media, yet again, attacking jack smith and praising the judge he appointed. apparently the only judge he seems to like. cnn seven pres joins us now with
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more and judge cannon's rulings. so what else did she say >> what anderson she was pushing back at the special counsel, jack smith. i mean, look, the back-and-forth between the special counsel, between the government and the judge has gotten downright sas see right tonight today, she pushed metal legal it might as well b. in this case. and look, i mean, things are getting definitely spicy because she definitely realized that the special counsel was criticizing her for the way she's handled this case, especially because she's refusing to actually say whether donald trump can use the presidential records act a post nixon law to essentially claimed that he had the right to take these documents when he left the presidency, when he left the presidency to take him back to mar-a-lago. and so by the fact that she's not doing that, it means that that issue is still alive. and so what she's doing here is she's letting that continue new but she pushes back. let me point let me read you just a part of what she she wrote in this
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two-page order. she says the court's order soliciting preliminary draft instructions on certain counts should not be construed as declaring a final definition on any essential element or asserted defense in this case, nor should it be interpreted as and thing other than what it was a genuine attempt in the context of the upcoming trial to better understand the parties competing positions and the questions to be submitted to the jury in this complex case. now, look, as you heard from a judge who you talk to just a couple of days ago on your air, andrew said, it's very unusual for the judge to be getting to the question of whether jury instructions and whether to use the presidential records act as part of those jury instructions at this at this stage of the case. and so the fact that these special counsel was pushing her nudging her to do that in order to be able to at least appeal is quite notable at this point. >> so there's still more than a dozen outstanding motions for
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this judge to decide, including several other motions to dismiss the case. how much could that impact the timing of this trial? >> it impacts all of the timing. and here's the other thing, is that from what we can tell well, she's planning to do hearings on every one of these motions. and so those take time and eats up a lot of the calendar, which as you pointed out, is already being eaten away. and so that's part of the beef that is developing between the government and this judge because the fact that every one of these in normal cases, a lot of judges would just have lawyers brief the various disputes and then make rulings in this case. she's not doing that. she's she's she's having them brief and then bringing them in for hearings, which takes up a lot of time. and then in this case, for instance, this is a pretty simple ruling that she did, but it took some time for her to even make this ruling in this case and there's impressed. >> thanks so much for more on
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what to make of the judge's ruling. judge cannon's ruling. we're joined tonight, but former federal judge nancy gertner, also, david kelly, who served as us attorney for the southern district of new york during the george w bush administration. and another former federal prosecutor from the southern district, district jessica roth. so judge gertner, let me start with you. you've been critical of how judge cannon has handled the case so far, particularly how she's dealt with the presidential records act and proposed jury instructions which you called. and i quote, very, very troubling. you also said in recent weeks, the judges quote, giving credence to arguments that are on their face absurd. so what do you make of her ruling today >> well, i want to step back for a second. so what she did today is to say that the presidential records act can't lead to the dismissal of all charges, right? and that to some degree is an easy decision to have made. you can't say i'm. leaving with the nuclear plan of attack because i want to, because i've just decided to. so she said it's not going to be the basis to dismiss, but
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she's keeping it in play for the trial. either trump would be able to say or at least for now, she's keeping it in play. i these were personal risk courtesy even though i never told anyone in the white house that they were personal, even though i count on their face, be personal she's going to keep that in play as a trial at the trial rather, it makes the potential for the trial to be chaotic and dangerous for the special prosecutor. chaotic because trump is it's going to get there screaming that somehow these were things, these are personal records or that he was these a selective prosecution, all sorts of things that he's claiming in these motions and dangerous for the special prosecutor because she'll be putting her finger on the scale, putting her thumb on the scale >> but judge >> to decide things they shouldn't. but judge isn't any defendant allowed to make whatever defense they want them? it can't why couldn't
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form the president argue. well, i think the presidential records act applies here, even if it doesn't because it doesn't it doesn't. you can't you can't make you can't bring defenses that are based on air. you can't bring defenses that have absolutely no grounding in the law, right. i mean, i killed someone and i had a right to kill that someone because i'm the messiah. >> i mean >> there's there is a limit and moos, judges will basically cabin what they can say. this offers a possibility that this trial is going to be wide open and she's going to not control it at all. >> david, i want to read another portion of the judges order declining to dismiss the indictment. she said the counts make no reference. the president until records act in order they rely on that statute for purposes of stating an offence what do you make of the argument that she is making? >> well, i think she did this made it look like it's strictly a legal issue. and i think she's kind of hedging a little
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bit leaving the door open for trump did follow on the judge set to follow clip on. what she said is it's kinda like a factual defense for him to assert that. while i thought i was covered by the presidential records act, one of the problems with that as number one, she could rule that inadmissible, but number two, and essentially to do that, i think you'd have to testify what chant going to do so it's i'm not quite sure what the design was behind on ruling >> it's mysterious, jessica, what do you think jack smith's next move is then? >> well, this has to be incredibly frustrating to him because as the judge will say, this is an issue of law that the judge should have decided. and so i think she could have decided. >> okay. no one's talking about the presidential records act. >> she should rule that it's not relevant in the context of this case. she doesn't seem to be willing to do that. and this is part of a pattern of her not only being delayed in issuing decisions when when she does issue what looks like a decision, it's actually not a committal decision that she essentially kicks it down the road and say, well, the dismissal is without prejudice
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to bringing it back later in the case. here, the real risk is that she's not going to issue a definitive if statement or ruling on whether she's going to instruct the jury on the application of the presidential records act until we get to the point where the jury's been in paneled and jeopardy would attach, and that's a really dangerous point for the special counsel to be at because once jeopardy attaches there's going to be a real risk that he's not going to be able to try this case. if because he's not going to be able to perhaps get her reversed by the 11th circuit in time and he wouldn't be able to retry it because of double jeopardy. so he's trying to avoid being in that situation where the jury's already in paneled and that's when he finds out how she's going to instruct the jury >> so judge gertner, can you can you wrap your head around the former president defending judge cannon in the social media posts well, your day, because she she ruled against him. same jack smith and somehow treated her terribly and that he should be sanctioned all while trump himself attacks to other judges and prosecutors and the substances their family, i mean, it seems like this is the only judge he doesn't attack
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well, of course it's the only doughty he doesn't attack. but step back for a moment. the way he has attacked other judges is not in terms of their particular decision. so he didn't rule on this. they didn't rule on that. it is sort of ad hominem attacks against the judge's before they have even open their mouth. they're trump haters with, with judge cannon. he's basically not saying anything and he's attacking jack smith is deranged. what the notion that human beings, or even spending time on this is extraordinary. i mean, what he's saying makes absolutely no sense. the certainly jackson smith's latest filing was much more pointed. there's no basis whatsoever to the to the presidential records act. he's saying and make a decision so that we can we can appeal. and that was it was appointed filing much less pointed than i've seen in my career as a judge, but that's what he needs to do because otherwise, really this trial, if and when
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it takes place will be chaos, just chaos. >> david, what stops it from being cast? i mean, if it's going down this road your guess is as good as mine? it's really hard. she hasn't put any structure here. she hasn't really, you need to establish who's running the courtroom and she hasn't done that. and in fact, an inviting the parties to do jury charges at this stage. that's like asking them, can you please give me the law for dummies or cliff's notes on the law because i don't know what it is. maybe you can help me figure it out and so i think that whole package is just kinda sets a tone and he sees an opportunity there care of butter in her up. i mean, the other judges yeah. he he's gone after them before they even ruled on stuff, but his expectation is that they're going to be against me. his expectation here clearly and it seems to be coming to fruit, is that she's going to be really good for him. so why not keep bundling are up end. >> he goes to all the the hearings in front of her or most of them
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>> if she does seem to have a very hard time ruling against him in any definitive way. i have no i have no insight into exactly what's motivating those decisions, but his presence certainly as i think something he sees as a strategy and all of his cases actually to be there perhaps were political tuchel reasons, but also to be communicating how much he cares and perhaps intimidating, just go right. >> thank you, david kelley, israel gabby on judge gardner, always. thank you. the next breaking news out of israel after a day that saw the biden administration warn israel that american sport now depends on how civilians in gaza are treated. we have to live reports and later surprising new presidential polling from the key swing state pennsylvania. and the central role latino voters might play there in the outcome >> ocd is more than what you see on tv. and in the movies, it comes with unrelenting intrusive images, thoughts, and urges. if you have ocd need help, you can get better with specialized treatment. go to know cd.com to learn more. >> if you're about to replace
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kitchen food convoy. the president's aid discuss the attack with israel's prime minister or the white house, just tweeted out a photo of him on the call and speaking from brussels for the 75th anniversary of nato sectors state antony blinken underscored the line that the president laid down >> this week's horrific attack on the world central kitchen was not the first such incident it must be the last president biden spoke a short while ago with prime minister netanyahu for leaders discussed the situation in gaza the president emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable. >> he made >> clear that us policy with respect to gaza we'll be determined by our assessment of israel's immediate action on these steps. >> just say this. if we don't see the changes that we need to see, there'll be changes in our own policy cnn's kayla
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tausche is at the white house force tonight with more than administration's apparent new approach, you heard secretary blinken there referencing potential changes in us policy. did the president tell the prime minister what those changes could look like? do we know >> anderson in a word? no, i'm told by senior administration official that president biden stuck too broad strokes and generalization ends when he was talking to prime minister netanyahu and used pretty much exactly the same language that you heard secretary of state antony blinken use right there, that if there are not changes in israel's policy than there would need to be changes in us policy without going into detail about exactly what could change how the us could shift its policy, or what types of aid could see being strapped with certain conditions. >> do we know what netanyahu, whether he pushed back on the call or at all the call was described to me as direct as business like as forceful at times. and that while the two litres did have some times of disagreement, which i'm told is not unusual for these two
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leaders who have known each other for decades, that it was very aboveboard. there was no sparring. and when i asked about the response of prime minister netanyahu, when biden delivered that message, that there could potentially be a change in us policy toward israel. i asked how he responded, and the senior administration official told me he understood anderson, the israeli security cabinet, as we said, has approved the opening of the erez crossing with gaza strip for the first time since october 7. in order to let humanitarian aid through, does the white house believed that there's a connection to today's phone call? >> yes. this official tells me that during the call, netanyahu made specific pledges to open more humanitarian crossings. and to announce some procedural changes for the idf. now of course, the white house's position is trust, but verify they're waiting to see some of these specific changes. actually, not not just get announced, but go into effect, take place and produce results but just this evening, anderson, the white house, putting out a statement on the opening of that erez crossing and calling it a welcome step
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here, the tausche, thanks so much coming next and to israel and cnn's jeremy diamond with more on the breaking news and how the netanyahu government is reacting to the biden administration's apparently tougher new line. so what have you learned since that call? >> well, interest in these really prime minister's office isn't commenting on the call directly, but instead what they appear to be doing is letting the actions that these really government is taking speak in their place. and this evening, the israeli security cabinet, as you were just discussing approving the opening of the erez crossing for the first time since october we're seventh. also approving the use of the port of ashdod some 20 miles north of that very same crossing to be used to bring in additional humanitarian aid. now, this is significant for a few reasons. first of all, this will allow more aid to be brought directly into northern gaza where the looming famine is most acute, more than 1 million people in gaza currently on the brink of that famine. and even as we have watched the ramp-up in airdrops, for example, these
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new maritime corridor to bring in more humanitarian aid. it's very clear and every humanitarian aid agency has said that it is land crossings that are necessary to bring in in the scale of humanitarian aid that is necessary and beyond that, we know the us has been pressuring israel for months now to open up more land crossings, including specifically this erez crossing and yet even as israeli officials for months have said, they are doing everything they can to get in enough humanitarian aid. tonight we are clearly learning that they could have done more sooner, but instead, it took the deaths of these seven humanitarian aid workers. and this massive international pressure, including from the us, to actually result in the opening of this crossing. >> the other question, of course, jeremy is, how is it then distributed? i mean, if aid groups are afraid of being targeted as real central kitchens, i mean, those vehicles were clearly targeted for whatever reason, we don't know and there's they say there's an investigation
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underway, but do we know when we're going to learn the details from this investigation? >> yeah. i mean, into first of all, in terms of the humanitarian aid, we don't know a lot in terms of when this erez crossing will open and yes, the work of aid workers still remains very dangerous in gaza. but the israeli government has signaled it will take more steps to deconflicted further between its military operations and these eight operations happening inside the gaza strip by these ngos. now, in terms of this investigation into the world central kitchen strike, i'm told that the israeli military has begun to brief out the findings of this investigation to relevant parties and tomorrow morning or this morning here in israel in a matter of a few hours, we expect that they will actually release the findings of that investigation. we don't know how detailed it will be, whether soldiers will be reprimanded here. but there's no question, anderson, that this is the most public
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accounting of any kind of israeli strike by the israeli military itself since the beginning of this war. of course, part of that has to do with the fact of the just the, the brazen nature of this with two vehicles that were clearly marked as aid vehicles coordinated with the israeli military. but there's also certainly a part of this anderson that has to do with the fact that six of these seven aid workers were not palestinians. they were foreigners and that is. certainly playing a part in the international uproar. and the israeli response that is followed. >> yeah. i mean, it took foreigners being killed for this kind of investigation which says a lot, jeremy diamond, thank you. some perspective. now on the administration's new position and how israel is conducting operations in gaza, joining us for that mark esper, who served as defense secretary during the trump administration first of all, secretary esper, what do you make this warning from the white house if israel doesn't do more to protect civilians and aid workers, there could be changes to us policy yeah good evening, anderson. >> first of all, it's obviously
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>> significant that president biden had this conversation. prime minister netanyahu, and somebody did, which was an ultimatum in many ways. and i think it's also notable that we're seeing some changes already as the reporter noted, the ezra crossing is being opened. we have the port opening as well. i'd like to see them double or increased the number of inspectors to also enhance the throughput of humanitarian aid going through. and then tomorrow morning we should find out the results of the investigation into the attack on the world central kitchen workers so it looks like there's some movement so far in terms of distributing aid. i mean, we've obviously seen the issues with that even once the few trucks that have gotten through are the number of trucks that have gone through the problems that in distributing we've seen people killed in people jumping onto these convoys, all sorts of mayhem, trying to get supplies. people are so desperate doesn't israel have some responsibility? i mean, if the us military was in control of this operation, i mean, i've seen the us military work in situations like this
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>> there. >> i mean, isn't that the occupying force isn't the the the israeli army doesn't. they have some responsibility for the orderly distribution of aid in areas that they have taken control of yes. if they are retaining control of it, i do. they do believe they have some degree of responsibility. this is also where it gets murky on the palestinian side, because obviously there were reports of looting alluding by hungry people, looting by bandits who are trying to still the the goods and resell them on the black market. and of course there are reports that hamas is in there trying to still the humanitarian aid for them for their own militants or to deny the palestinian people the aid. so it gets really murky there, but you need some type of some type of force scenario because the police force has been dismantled to control that, to prevent whatever here are those factions are actually on the ground preventing the people who need it, the innocent civilians from getting that aid >> when you have i mean, i
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don't know if you've looked at the targeting of these vehicles. it was three separate vehicles over a great distance it seems quite deliberate whether for the reasons are inexplicable at this point, i talked to brock reviewed is very well sourced who talked who said that? a number of the people he's talked to who have served on the ground in gaza kind of talk about a breakdown between what commanders from the idf may be saying is policy at their headquarters and how troops on the ground. and commanders on the ground are actually executing those policies that the attitude on the ground is different, perhaps than what central command is saying. if that is true, that seems like a huge issue do you have those concerns and when you look at some of the things we have seen going on in gaza >> yeah. when you look at what happened with the vehicles clearly marked, they identified where they were moving from. and when we're going to move and the fact they were still targeted indicates there was at least a breakdown somewhere or
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are the commanders on the ground being record? let's because they are afraid or because they don't agree with the policy being set forth. i think this is why the investigation is so very important, and i've argued that maybe we need to put provide us military experts in there as well to assist to look over their shoulders, to help out where they can, and to kinda referee some of this because i think that is a funnel metal question is is the guidance being ignored from the top? is this widespread or was it just a local incident where a mistake was made and look in combat mistakes are made. i know from my service in the gulf war. and then of course my subsequent service, these things happen and that's why investigations are important to get to the bottom of it. hold people accountable, and then make tree take corrective actions, actions to prevent any breakdowns are miscoordination or mistaken identity from happening. again, how would you compare the i mean, i've heard prime minister netanyahu in the past sort of talk about the death toll in gaza and say essentially that the ratio of civilians to what he says are
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hamas awesome members the ratio of killings between how many civilians are killed per hamas member are about equal to what the us military would tolerate. is that when you look at the numbers, when you look at the numbers of wound knew when he looked at the numbers of dead, do you think a us operation would have been handled a lot differently? >> yeah. first of all, they saved the 32,000 killed at least a third, our militants from hamas is what was 20 times of hamas, of which four are remaining believed to be in rafah, which is why netanyahu wants to go into rafah to get rid of, to disable those remaining four battalions. look, i hate to say it sounds was really cold and methodical, but yes, us experts have said that the ratio of civilians killed two militants killed is roughly on par, if not better than other western militaries. now, every circumstance is different obviously, gaza is highly dense. >> we know >> that hamas is using civilians in civilian
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infrastructure occupying they're putting them out there as human shields. that complicated all which has all the more reason why the attacking force in this case, the idf has to take extra special care and to avoid as much collateral damage and the killing of civilians as possible. >> they say they've done that to you, did it look like they've done that? >> it's hard to say sitting over here and not being on the ground and not looking at each situation and of itself as president biden has ramped up his concerns, one would think that they would limit the use of airstrikes and increase the use of ground forces. of course, that means that you expose your ground forces to more risk two more, the likelihood of them being killed or injured, but that's that's the risk military takes its soldiers take when you're undergoing urban combat because you are trying to avoid civilian casualties, know the rule of thumb that we took out of iraq and afghanistan is, you don't want to create more terrorists that you kill in the military operation and clearly, clearly at this point one would
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believe they are creating more militants, but certainly they've lost the strategic imperative of global support. and are now in a cusp of maybe losing some degree of us support as well. and the united states is its greatest ally. and we've got to remember too that hamas isn't the only threat they face. i got hezbollah in the north when they're exchanging constant fire with them in southern lebanon. and given what's happened in recent days with the ron, there's a palpable concern israel today that they may see some type of strikes from iran after what happened monday and syria secretary esper, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. anderson. >> this weekend will mark six months since the october 7 terror attacks, six months of captivity for the hostages taken on that day by hamas and islamic jihad and others. up next i'll talk with the parents who won the american hostages, hirsch goldberg, poland, who are trying to keep attention on the plight of their son and all the others who are in captivity bills are crazy
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hamas attack, more than 1,000 israelis were killed that day. the deadliest attack in the country, 75 year history, hundreds of others were taken captive by hamas. the israeli prime minister's office recently said there are still around 130 hostages in gaza that includes dual israeli american citizen hirsch goldberg, poland. i first spoke to her says parents shortly after he was taken hostage. i'd found a video of their sons kidnapping. this is his left hand and part of his arm had been blown, are shot off and he was being loaded into a pickup truck by armed gunmen i sent them the video which they hadn't previously known about joining me now are rachel goldberg and jon polin thank you for being here. i'm sorry, you are here under these circumstances, 181 days. you have the numbers on your chest i remember when you started putting those numbers on. i did not expect to see numbers this high. did you know >> i mean, we're living on another planet, so i don't know that we comprehend time the way
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that you do or normal people, it feels like you're living on another planet. >> oh, without a doubt it's very unfamiliar can you talk about what life on that planet as light >> it's staggeringly profound trauma. and terror at all times >> you know, part of the number is that rachel started wearing in day 26. is the conscious effort every day of pull off a piece of tape, writing a new number. you have no choice. but the think about that. we also have a number on our balcony of our apartment in jerusalem and i remember on day 40 something somebody said to us because it was made for two digits. the sign and somebody said, what are you gonna do if it gets too day 100 and we both thought
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that's awesome, are fine. of course, these people are gonna be home before day 100. and so the fact or day 1801 is kind of impossible to grasp it. to be walking down a street and walking in a mall to get to a place and seeing people just going about their de, and life, going on. it's got to be i don't know if it's infuriating or i mean, i would think i would want to stand there and scream at people. >> i don't even really digest the people around me that i'm passing i'm were too busy strategizing, talking about what are we doing today? what are we going to do so that i finally had someone explained to me because i kept feeling we would get into bet at night and say, well, we're failures because he's not home. we've got another day down and he's not home. and i had someone explained to me that i had to
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switch my inner narrative to did i do every single thing today that i could to help get him home? so that i stopped feeling like such a failure that we started to feel like we're trying as hard as we possibly can, but that's what we're doing all day, is trying as hard as we possibly can. so there's really no time for me to even digest in many ways that the world is being normal. >> i mean, i'm a failure. the world the world is a failure in correct. >> and we say that often that we feel that everybody has failed, are leaders, all of them have failed to make this suffering on all sides stop we feel that we as parents have failed because as a parent,
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your job is to keep your children safe and if they get in trouble to save them i think we feel that the human species has failed to allow this to continue there are still 134 human beings being held representing 25 different nations still. there, still muslims, jews, christians, hindus, and buddhists there and the age range is still a range from the youngest fear b. boss is now 14 months old, and the oldest is a grandfather who's 86 >> on the failure front what's in some ways even scarier for me than the fact that we've gotten today 1801 is the fact that it sometimes feels to me like day one at one could become day to 81. they three at one, they 581 we can't allow
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that to happen but world leaders don't seem to have that sense of urgency. there's a complacency will go negotiate for a couple of days. we'll go back home. >> wait a week. we'll talk about whether we should go back. >> i've asked you this before and i sadly, i think i know the answer, but have you had any word at all about her she's condition about anything. i mean there's an assumption that he was treated on the seven because the hostages who were released at the end of november did share that. the first stop for everyone and especially the people who were stolen early and we know that hirsh was stolen early because of the texts that we got and the video that you shared with us the first stop was medical treatment and we understand from surgeons who we've shared the video with that you gave to
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us that the procedure that hirsch needed the surgery he needed was actually not a complicated surgery. and because we can see in the video, he doesn't lose consciousness. he was clearly dazed in shock, in trauma, but composed the assumption is that he is alive >> after that first hostage hostage release >> young woman named maya this has been reported publicly, shared that she was operated on her fourth, but it was by a veterinarian. and it's amazing, but we had probably 100 veterinarians from around the world reach out to us to give support and say, don't worry, if hirsch was operated on by a veterinarian it's fine. the kind of surgery he needs is the most similar surgery between animals and humans. so vet could do it and that's the
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kinda stuff that normally would be disturbing to us, but we're like, okay, great. we hope they got treated by a veterinarian and had his amputated arm somehow surgically addressed we'll take that knows >> rachel john. thank you >> thank you >> reminder. you can catch more on the anniversary of the october 7 attack on this sunday is the whole story cnn's bianna golodryga sits down with family members of those taken captive and speaks directly with some of the released hostages. and would they experienced while in captivity? that airs this sunday, april 7 at 8:00 p.m. months cnn, up next the key voting block that could decide the 2024 election outcome and pennsylvania critical battleground state and the efforts right now by democrats and republicans to win their support okay, yeah, we got orders come in, starting a business is never easy. a star next eight months pregnant, that's a different story i couldn't slow down. we were
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block. latino voters whose population has grown more than 40% since 2010, more than that now, from cnn's danny freeman get that i could be gay every weekday morning. victor martinez steps up to the mic two calls here, and talks pop news and politics. but his audience pennsylvania's fastest growing demographic? >> you see the city of allentown where 55% of the city's latino you'll see bethlehem where 30% is latino. you see reading, pennsylvania were 69, 70% is latino. again, that's happened within the last five years from his radio station and allen town, once white working class rustbelt strongholds, martinez has watched his spanish speaking listeners rapidly increase across central eastern penalty this will vga over the past decade >> now >> martinez is show has become a must stop for several state and local politicians. >> i'm glad to be it. >> the evicted and just last month, vice president kamala harris called it. what is the
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potential? of latino voters in this area of pennsylvania? >> i think it's huge. i think the latino vote could be the deciding factor in 2020 president biden beat former president trump in pennsylvania by roughly 80,000 votes. recent polling in the state shows a close race, meaning the estimated 600 eligible latino voters could easily we decided the next election here. >> but while >> biden carried the latino vote handily in 2024, signs are showing some of that support may be slipping. do you feel there are more latinos in your community who are becoming republican these days? i believe so. i believe but we still have time. >> cynthia mota, allentown's first latina city council president, and an immigrant from the dominican republic. the democrat is sounding the alarm, urging her party to spend more time and money in pennsylvania. >> they have taken things for granted when it comes to the latino vote, when it comes to an election can we're not we're
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continues to frustrate many latino voters. >> in some cases than not people in my opinion, they're poisoning the blood of our country. >> those we spoke with told us other issues will likely be the deciding factor. why are you supporting biden over former president trump? >> i think the continuing in front of the there are more crazy. it's something important or he will lose election, he will transfer power without problem. >> you like trump because of what he's done more than what he's >> oh, absolutely. yes. >> the economy immigration, we need a change >> who's languish it is, what it is i'm blue collar. so we talk rough >> one, martinez, small business owner and dominican immigrant. he says, there's still time for either candidate to win his vote. >> we're looking for a candidate that could put the book get away and focus on the people and focus on moving the country forward to help us realize the american dream >> and danny freeman choices
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now for philadelphia has the trump campaign talked about targeting latino voters in pennsylvania >> anderson, frankly, not really. we asked the trump campaign specifically about their pennsylvania latino outreach. they did not respond to the specifics. instead, they sent us the statement saying in part in 2020, crooked joe biden's idea of hispanic outreach which was playing despacito the song. now we truly see how despacito biden is though i should note that this mosquito means slowly, so it doesn't quite make sense in that context. the trump campaign also said that democrats have been taking hispanic voters for granted though. now, the biden campaign, anderson is emphatic. they're saying they're out there trying to earn every single latino vote here in pennsylvania, and not just in those locations that we visited, but also here in philly so they'll fia the city and the state with the largest number of latinos and they point to opening offices here in philadelphia and also in some of those growing latino areas like the lehigh valley
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science, better results >> spatial colombia, the final flight premieres sunday at nine on cnn >> the eclipse is coming just four days away monday afternoon for just a few minutes if the weather cooperates, this will be the view for americans in the path of the total solar eclipse. other areas of the country while only see the moon covering part of the sun. and as always reminder that wherever you are, you must wear certified eye protection to look at it. the path of totality will stretch across portions of 13 states, including kaye kaye row, illinois, a small city preparing for a big influx of tourists. gary tuckman is there >> what does it like to be the manager of the only hotel in a city that is about to experience solar eclipse totality. the city of k illinois. well, it's pretty
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darn good. today. i think the rate is what, $80 a night? yeah >> it really did on his listener eight plus tax the night before the eclipse, how much is it it set on 500, $500, $500. and it's sold out yeah. >> k row named after the capital of egypt per pronounced differently, has had a pronounced economic decline over generations but once process spruce southern illinois city sits adjacent to where the mississippi and ohio rivers meet. qarrah is lost almost 90% of its population from a century ago this is a look at downtown key role in the 1950s. now, the same exact downtown street is almost abandoned. robb wolf, for example, those buildings hasn't been touched in years many businesses and couldn't hotels, restaurants, stores in a hospital have been shut down there are still some elegant homes and museums. a former homes >> people we >> talked toho remain are very loyal >> i love it here
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>> gabriel harris owns g and l clothing with wife, luanda, like the hotel manager, they're excited about the tourists coming to see the eclipse and what it could mean for k row, you feel that this could be, this could perhaps make things better for your business in the weeks and most definitely, yes, opportunity to grow it's an opportunity to expose, you know, the core of what carroll is gem wells barbecue is one of only two sit-down restaurants that remain in k wrote brittany harrak is a private employee. >> we've been here for 100 years, so i guess would do something right? >> the best thing that you could tell everyone about khaybar right now is what that we have good barbecue and we have friendly people >> and brittany also tells the she has a wish, a wish that the solar eclipse could be a turning point >> i hope that one day we could be that thriving city that's we once were. >> you have lived in qarrah your entire life? >> my entire life, 57 years.
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i've been here. >> we meet carol childress and her husband, glen, and the city's only grocery store that opened about a year ago after seven years of having no grocery store they're also looking forward to tourists arriving for the solar eclipse. >> it's a lot of people don't even know we hear. >> so people stopping in our little town just because of that, it makes my heart gland. >> the glory days of payroll, illinois have gone for a long time. but for a few minutes on monday and a very different sense, it will be most glorious to be here in k row so you need five businesses. they're passing >> out eclipse glasses. chairs will be set up in the business district for eclipse viewers who want a comfortable seat kaye row, illinois, the city of solar eclipse totality is getting ready for its day in the sun. >> maybe the next time you come this way, you'll see a totally different change in. >> gary joins us now, i hope the weather is going to be good for