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>> the lead with jake tapper. >> next, odd cnn if you're like boris and you have wanted to own your own goat since forever >> here's your chaur chance >> remote island off the coast of sicily, just overrun with them. now officials are offering these goats to anyone who'll take them and put things in perspective here, the island which has around hundred residents, it has six times as many goats as people, six times the island's mayor is so desperate, he told cnn, he doesn't care whether you know anything about raising goats just wants them out. you're gonna be able to take up two 50 goes, but you have to catch them herself. you do need a boat to get them off the island. you have until april 10 since i was a little kid, i just had this fascination. >> we're not true is that using the false hoods when you've always wantgo so passionate fashion, a passionate about goat cheese, about goat milk >> feta it's not true. it's a
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joke >> thank you for being with us, speaking a goat's. let's se it on over to jake tapper right now >> we're now learning exactly what biden told netanyahu in that phone call earlier today, the lead starts right now new demands from the united states today calling on israel to stop up killing innocence and gaza. president biden warning that the us could even change its policies towards israel. but what if israel conducts another deadly strike on civility? the games are aid workers. what will biden actually do we'll talk to some of the biggest names in foreign policy plus donald trump rejected by two judges today in two different criminal cases against him as trump allies go after one case, a different way. how they're trying to get the top prosecutor in the georgia election subversion case, fani willis out and out, thrown up off the case. and an extra episode added to a docu series is former child akre is come forward with even more
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explosive games, claims about it toxic culture and abuse behind the scenes. >> and nickelodeon welcome to the lead on jake tapper, we start start today with our worldly, the president of united states is calling and bibi might not like what he fears today, president biden spoke with israeli prime minister benjamin yeah, who for the first time since the israeli military killed seven international aid workers in gaza accidentally, the israelis say during israel's war against hamas for the october 7 terrorist attack. now the white house says biden told netanyahu the deaths of those seven innocent aid workers were quote unacceptable as is the president said current humanitarian crisis in gaza, where tens of thousands of innocent palestinians have been killed and wounded scores of others forced from their homes. the entire area on the brink of famine this afternoon, top biden administration officials warned if israel does not take concrete steps to fix these many problems, israel could face consequences from its
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number one ally, the united states what we want to see are some real changes on the israeli side and if we don't see changes from their side, they'll have to be changes from our side cnn's kayla tausche is at the white house and cnn's jeremy diamond is in tel aviv. kyla what exactly does the white house want israel to do? what concrete steps and how quickly >> well, for days, jake behind the scenes white house officials have been urging the israeli defense forces and is israeli government officials to improve their deconfliction process is to better transmit information about where those aid workers are operating and traveling. and today, president biden said very clearly to prime minister netanyahu that he wants concrete and measurable steps to be taken. and here's nsc spokesman john kirby outlining what some of those we'll be we want to see more crossings opened up. we want to see more trucks getting in, particularly from jordan we want to see tangible steps at
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the mitigation of civilian harm particularly to humanitarian aid workers, but obviously also the answer >> kirby says the us needs to see those changes, needs to see an within hours or days. and while he says that, there would be changes to us policy, he stopped short of elaborating on exactly what would or could change if israel doesn't implement at some of those steps that he outlined, the white house is trying to do a very delicate dance your jake on one hand, they're trying to strong arm israel into improving their tactics and bettering some of their processes during war on the other hand, they are also saying that support remains steadfast in both kirby and secretary of state antony blinken say, israel still faces real threats, especially from iran and the us will help them in the face of those threats. >> jake, jeremy diamond, when it comes to the israeli strike that killed us seven world central kitchen aid workers. you've learned that israel has
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actually finished initial investigation into what went wrong yeah, that's right. >> the israeli military over the last several days has been investigating exactly what went wrong and how the military could have miss identified this envoy of three world central kitchen vehicles struck them misidentifying them apparently as a threat. i'm told that that investigation has now concluded. in fact, the israeli military has begun briefing relevant parties and we expect that they will release the findings of that investigation as soon as tomorrow morning. exactly what those findings will be and what kind of consequences there could be for any of the soldiers involved remains unclear at this hour. what is clear, jake, is that this is a major inflection point in us, israel relations as it relates to this war in gaza, the kind of language, of course that we heard today from the white house briefing room is unlike what we have heard before in terms of outlining
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specific policy consequences here. and there was also some foreshadowing of israeli actions to address some of that withdrawn. kirby indicating that the israeli government would be announcing some changes as it relates to humanitarian aid perhaps that has yet to be disclosed to us here on the israeli side, but certainly something that we're watching for the israeli prime minister right now. now in a war cabinet meeting with his top advisers, we will see if anything comes out of that, jake. >> all right. jeremy diamond and kayla tausche. thanks so much. let's bring in richard haas the former president of the council on foreign relations, and richard good to see you as always, you hear the white house saying that netanyahu and the israeli government and the idf need to make changes or face consequences what do you think those consequences would actually be if at all >> well, it's focused on two things. jake, as you just heard, one is the amount of aid, humanitarian aid going into gaza, and the other is rarely use of military force. how discriminating, how calibrated it is the obvious
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response on the ladder would be if we don't like how they're using military forces, we would not deny, but we would condition the strands for two israel of all us arms and say, you can only use them this way. you can't use 2000 pound bombs, for example, in heavily populated area or it's things like that. i think that you go into there. what was interesting also guy sha what was it mentioned at least in the readouts i heard anything on israeli settlement activity and i didn't hear any pressure for israel to introduce a political dimension to its strategy. so it seems that the lion's share of not the only focus today wasn't on aid going in and the use of military force. >> so just to put it bluntly, have you seen any evidence that netanyahu is actually listening to biden in any way. i mean, it seems like we've been in this pattern biden, you know, it's either leaked or express his anger. he can't believe this is going on. israel needs to do better. the world wonders what
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bibi is going to do if anything nothing changes and bad things keep happening to innocent people in gaza looks like i wish i could sit here and say you've got it wrong, but i can't for six months, the biden administration after initial >> expressions appropriate entirely appropriate of sympathy and support after october 7, that basically advised israel they've tried to persuade it we have six months of evidence persuasion isn't work, isn't working. we're also seeing that public criticism of israel isn't working. so the danger now is our words look empty it's never good for a great power to look as though it's words can be ignored or treated with a degree of impunity, particularly by a friend so question is, what, if any consequences well, it will israel suffer if the united states continues essentially to have his advice rejected? and this has been going on for six months. i don't think i don't think it's good for the united states. it's not good for this relationship. i'd even be
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prepared to say it's not good for israel what would you advise president biden to do right now, let's just assume i'm going to posit a theory that the idf, and netanyahu >> don't change. they keep conducting the war. they're doing it, they keep taking the rules of engagement are the same. they're taking the same risk to civilian life that they're doing bad things keep happening, not enough aid is getting in this humanitarian crisis keeps getting worse. what would you tell president biden to do if anything? >> i would tell them to condition the use of us supplied military arms. i would tell him to step up international efforts to get aid. and even if it interferes with israeli military operations, i would tell him to make clear what economic prices row would pay for continued at settlement activity. >> and could have the president of the united states give a speech in which he articulated in considerable detail what the united states believes or a political process, or to look
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like that satisfies at least some palestinian political aspirations. >> all right, richard haas, always good to have you on. thank you so much. let's talk now with retired lieutenant general mark hertling former commanding general of the us army, europe, and the seventh army. general hurtling. here's a question for you that i have wondered since december or january. >> do you think israel is >> exercising the same rules of engagement, the same? cost analysis, the same caution versus need for action that the us military would do in this situation when it comes to the balance here, the value of certain targets and the potential risk to civilians in any specific military operation. are they doing the same thing that the united states would be doing? >> i'm going to surprise you. they can say yes, i do i know the targeting process that israel uses is similar to the ones that united states, united states military uses. and that
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is, they look at the intelligence they assess the damage, they look at the protocols in terms of civilians being the area it a look at the cost-benefit analysis of conducting a strike. they look at the difference between hitting a time-sensitive target that is one, that intelligence pops up and they they can prove with 80 or 70% assurance that it has the target inside the target package, that they're going to strike versus a plan target. like we saw the other day when israel struck the quds force headquarters disguised as a consulate in damascus. but what i'll tell you is there are some breakdowns because specifically the way the hamas fights this fight, they purposely put civilians in harm's way. and i think that certainly has but different effect on the striking of targets by the israeli military. this strike against the world food, world central kitchen vehicles was just absolutely horrific i'm sure the report is going to show
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some things. it's surprises me as you just talk to jeremy diamond, that they already had the initial report that's a fast initial report, but i would say that there was probably a breakdown in intelligence, a breakdown in decision-making, a breakdown in communication. and who was going to strike the target and how and what was in the target package area that the lawyers approved? to approve that kind of target. >> there >> are warriors as well as operators and intelligence officials in the room when targeting take place the israelis are known to do it very well, but in the context of gaza, it's just so much more difficult because hamas, once civilians struck, this goes along with their strategy. >> oh, no absolutely. just for the record, i you didn't surprise me. i actually didn't know what you were going to say and i wondered and i don't have an answer to the question. i don't know what israel would be doing that the united states, we'd be doing different. that's not a defense of them or a prosecution. i just actually think that our militaries are very similar.
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you're friends with chef jose andres go ahead. >> if i if i could jake, i'm sorry. if i could though. the one thing that i think the biden administration and the millet us military gave advice to the israelis on early on is what we learned as one of our big mistakes in these kind of operations, you have to separate the noncombatants from the terrorist israel has not done that. they have not allowed for the exfiltration of civilians in the area, especially women and children. and i think we're seeing the effects of that. israel has not been from a political standpoint as effective in doing that. i'm sorry. >> yeah. no, no, it's fine. but you mentioned the world central kitchen the tragic loss of those cells i've been aid workers. you're friends with chef jose andres, who obviously started world central kitchen, you spoke with him yesterday. what is this been like for him? he is a dedicated humanitarian he is out there to help the most vulnerable people in the worst parts of the world but
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the people he referred to them as angels. and i'm, i'm not going to quibble, but that word, the people, the people who volunteered to go to help people in haiti to go to help people in gaza. what is this been like for him? >> yeah. >> i'd start off by just saying that you're right, jake, he is an unbelievable human being and a great humanitarian and only wants to feed people and besides that, he's just a good guy. i got to norm and a couple of commissions that we sat on to look at food crises in the united states and he is just a wonderful person. i texted him yesterday and just offered my condolences and within ten minutes of me texting and he called, we had about an hour long conversation, which as busy as he is surprised me and truthfully, he's kind of experienced the same experiencing the same thing soldiers do in the he's kind of incidents, he's suffering grief and anger, and nx and anxiousness about what might happen next. he also suggested
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that he had a little bit of survivors guilt because he was supposed to be on that convoy and why wasn't he there convoy was struck. soldiers what that kind of stuff. the survivor's guilt and the anger at seeing your comrades fallen, especially in this kind of situation where these works soldiers, these were individuals trying to just provide food to the hungry. so he's going to continue on with what he's been doing. he's been miraculous and what he is he and his team of thousands at&t provided the palestinians in the gaza strip's the things he's doing are miraculous and almost impossible to conceive, but he's going to continue on. i know that. and i think he had as well as president biden, you haven't i discussion with prime minister netanyahu today, i think shipped andres did as well, but i'm not sure that. >> all right. and general mark hertling. thank you so much for your time and expertise coming up in the next hour on the lead, senator bernie sanders will be here. he has opposed new usa's for israel at
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because of the way that netanyahu is conducting this war, sanders was just at the white house yesterday. so why will ask him about these new demands from biden today coming up next in this hour donald trump rejected by two different judges today as he tried to get some criminal cases against him thrown out, he failed, plus nearly three years after the us withdrawal from afghanistan, new transcripts from former state department officials revealing why hi that exit was so chaotic and deadly. the headline there was no plan. the transcripts, you'll see only on the lead that's coming up spatial colombia, the final flight premieres sunday at nine on cnn can zoom or cellular. this is sam palmy albia this is, a bad diet. >> well, somebody's but just thought i'd let you know that would consumer cellular, you can get the same exact coverage as the leading carriers but for up to half the price >> doctors recommend coli stool softener, four gentle dependable relief from
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claiming free speech grounds. again, the georgia case is about donald trump's efforts to try to overturn georgia's 2020 election results. cnn's paula reid and sara murray join me now, paul, let us start in florida. big decision by judge cannon. yeah. and it's a decision i was here at the table yesterday. we were talking about how she had so many decisions outstanding here. she is rejecting one of several efforts to trump has made to get this case dismiss specifically his argument that he had a right to bring these classified documents home with him because they were personal records. now, she appeared skeptical about this theory at a hearing a couple of weeks ago, but she left open the possibility he still could use this as a possible defense at trial while even though the special counsel's at the entire theory should be rejected cannons whole approach to this case is certainly come under scrutiny especially this pace, right? this slow pace, because the trump pulls the whole strategy there is to delay and she's really helping them and a cnn analysis done by our colleagues tierney sneed and hannah rabinowitz shows she still has over a half dozen
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decisions outstanding and of those eight of them or other motions to dismiss. and if you look at today's it's only three pages, so it's unclear what's taking so long. the biggest outstanding question that was, when will this case go? we were in court over a month ago to hear arguments about that >> and sara marie, what about the georgia case? trump was making a first amendment argument to try to get that case dismissed, but what a judge mcafee have to say about that. >> yeah. >> i mean, this judge in georgia also not buying these motions to throw the whole indictment out. what trump's attorney steve sadow, argued in court was that what donald trump did to try to overturn the election? for john was just core political speech. it should be protected under the first amendment. the judge that, you know, look, the allegation is that you use these activities, this speech you're referring to to commit a crime that you used it to lie, to deceive, to harm the government. so i'm not just going to throw this indictment out before trial, but again, it doesn't mean that when they get to trial and georgia, whenever that might be, that trump's attorney can't raise the possibility in front of the
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jury that they should decide to toss this based on the free speech argument >> interesting, sara murray and paula reid stick around because i want to bring in a cnn legal analyst, elie at williams right now, elliott first floor florida >> what do you do you agree >> with what paul is saying in terms of the analysis, the judge cannon is moving at a slow heinz ketchup. >> one likes speed. >> she is not moving with deliberate speed, no and and to paul's point, it was a very short order today. and it's there are important questions about the sensitivity of documents that might take a long time to resolve there's a lot of other stuff that could have been resolved already, and even this question about the presidential records act which on its face is actually not a particularly difficult one could have been resolved very quickly, so it's hard to know why she has such a backlog in such an important case. >> so paula trump keeps filing these these motions to dismiss and he keeps losing i mean, i can understand why lawyers would do it. i mean, they charge by the hour, but is there a chance at any of these
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motions will actually find a buyer? >> what depends on your definition of success, right? it's not likely they're going to succeed on the merits, but it can still be a win because it takes time to decide these mean it forward, it takes a long time decided kept the judge to say it's cut it out. we got it. you're trying to do they have they have a right. >> these are units constitutional question a political speech that is a legitimate, again, a for effort you're not going to win. but i see your argument. it's interesting. >> they >> have a right to file these motions, and in addition to just delay, there's also the issue of preserving some of these issues for a pin eventual appeal. and then i'm told they're playing this long game strategy with a lot of these cases, if they go to trial, if there's a conviction, there hope being that they can establish enough of a record mistakes, right. death by 1,000 cuts to get it toss. so there's a lot to be gained even if they lose on the merits. and >> sarah, you also have some new reporting today that trump allies in georgia are trying to different tack. they're pushing for a gag order against the prosecutor there, the district attorney of fulton county, fani willis yeah. >> there are trump allies that
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are sort of having these discussions among themselves and their defense attorneys should we ask for a gag order against fani willis to prosecutor? she came under a lot of scrutiny, of course, for her romantic relationship with another prosecutor, but also for the public comments that she has made before about the case. and those comments haven't stopped. i think we have some sound of a willis said back in january that got her into hot water and gotten defendants to ask to disqualify her and what she said just last week about this case, take a listen. okay >> recently they tell me now like me to talk about race. well, i'm gonna talk about it anyway. >> troupis >> is some challenges that come to be in blank >> playing the race card when make i need someone a jurisdiction in some other stake to tell me how to do a job been doing almost 30 >> now, the fact that willis is still making comments about the case and still invoking race even after a judge rebuked her and said, i'm not going to disqualify you from the case,
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but these comments you're making are legally improper, has some of these defendants, one during should we ask for a gag order? the concern is, you really don't want that to boomerang around back on you. and if you're a defendant who likes to talk about fani willis or the case say donald trump, save rudy giuliani, say david shafer, the former georgia republican republican party chairman. you don't want a judge to say, all right, fine. everyone's gagged. no one can talk elliott donald trump today in an interview with hugh hewitt, said he thought that former president nixon's firings during the >> watergate scandal, which became known as the saturday mass, we're war mistake that he learned from. he said, quote, the firings were mistake you notice the way i kept people that i couldn't stand. i learned that from nixon. i said, let me just live with these people for a little while before i get rid of them. so just to recap, of course, he trump fire the fbi director comey for the russia investigation. he fired deputy fbi director mccabe for the same he fired attorney general jeff sessions for recusing himself and not protecting trump and on and on it was and a lot of us call did that at
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the time is slow motion saturday night massacre >> but i guess he's saying yeah. and that's why i did it in slow motion because nixon did it all one day and that was a big scandal. i did it at smartly. >> i would make an argument that it's even worse that it's not a saturday night massacre, but, but over the years of 2019 in 2020 massacre, it was such disrespect. the rule of law to fire the attorney general, jeff sessions of all people simply for not carrying out his personal and political biddings. so i think we it's just remarkable that we are now looking to richard nixon and the mere fact that he fired people in one night as an example, a behavior, but now i think trump's behavior was pretty awful and reprehensible. >> i'm just saying i think what he said, what he learned from is not the firings, it's doing them all at one time. i'm trying to decipher what he's saying ridiculous. anyway, elliott and as aaron paul, thanks so much behind the scenes at nickelodeon former child actors already have been alleging abuse and a toxic culture in a recent docu
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the arrest in 2004 conviction of his dialogue coach, brian peck. investigation discovery, which we should note is owned by cnn's parent company, says the new episode premiering on sunday, we'll build off the revelations explored in the first four episodes. it will feature drake bell and at least one former nickelodeon star who was not in the first four episodes. with us now from the series white on this, that mary robertson, executive producer and director and me schwartz co-executive producer and director. thanks to both of you for being here, married. let me start with you. >> how >> did this bonus episode come about? did the docuseries? encourage other former child stars to come forward, make making them more comfortable with stories that maybe they weren't previously willing to share >> yes that's that's pretty much exactly exactly the case. in the days after we released the trailer we saw a voluminous and positive response. we saw
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questions emerge and then questions about the questions and questions about the questions. that i think came to realize rather quickly that we had value that we could add in that moment, that we could step in and help to answer some of these provocative questions and do so in a sensitive manner. we enlisted award-winning journalist soledad o'brien we approached some individuals that had appeared in the first four for episodes, and we do include the account of one cast member of all that who was not in the original four episodes, but after watching the response to the series and the generosity and compassion with which people met the accounts of his colleagues, he decided to come forward and share his story in this episode he's joined by geo and brian and tracy. tracy is bryan's mom. they've all been deeply and positively affected by their participation and they have strong feelings about some of the public response some of the
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videos and statements that have been offered in response to the series. we also feature never before seen footage and drake bell is interviewed as well. >> wow. >> am i can you give me just a taste of what are some of the questions that were prompted by the series that this next episode we'll explore i think one of the really interesting questions that so many people have been talking about is >> you know, what, what needs to change across the industry. there's been a lot of anger, a lot of concern, a lot of questions about how how some of these scenes were put together, how children weren't always pretty detected. and we really hope that that conversation continues as we know number of the participants are trying to find ways to change either laws or rules, or create more supports for child actors onsets, marry in addition to the unimaginable predatory behavior, there are also some allegations racist, a behavior
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against some of the actors. here's a clip from brian hearn, who appeared on a lots of nick shows, including the sketch show >> all that. >> let's watch for the little fetus role >> and essentially, you're a fetus, so you naked, but they had to put a body suit on you and obviously it has to be skin tone someone said the skin tone should be charcoal >> i started to >> get syria whoever was doing my makeup at the time was kinda like hand on my shoulder like it's gonna be okay. don't worry about that. >> he just said brian goes on to say that his agent discouraged his mother from addressing that. tell us more about that and what it was like to hear that, to bring it forward. >> i remember the day that brian came to set for his interview i remember listening intently. everyone was listening very intently. i remember him sharing the story that he you see in that clip. i
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remember him also talking about being asked to participate in what would be called an on-air deir, where his body was covered in peanut butter what are and then dogs louk, the peanut butter off of his body. he felt uncomfortable with that situation. he didn't want to participate, but he didn't feel as though he had agency or opportunity to voice objection without risking his advancement or his employment i remember how affected many onset where by listening to him and i remember his body language, i remember his facial expression, some of which you see in that clip and it was clear that what he had experienced as a child was something that had carried into his adult life. and i think i i knew in that moment that those watching his story would be affected in a similar manner >> recurring theme seems to be the parents i'm sure people at home who haven't seen the series are wondering what were, were the parents on this? the
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parents were kept at bay often isolated from the kids, isolated from what was happening onset are their industry changes enough, the ones that have happened to prevent this from happening in the future because obviously removing the parents can be a real recipe for disaster i think one of the things that we heard from both the former child actors and their parents was that they felt that parents are >> actively discouraged from speaking up when they saw a concern and that if they did that, that could have a detrimental impact on their child's career. and many of the children didn't want their parents let's to speak up, you know, brian actually talks about how there were times he didn't go to his mom because she knew that she would speak up. i think those sort of power dynamics are very complicated and very difficult. and one of the reasons that some of the participants have been speaking about whether there should be more resources for children onset, whether that's my mental health specialists or social workers or somebody
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who's not their boss and not their parents. so they can go to when there are uncomfortable or difficult circumstances without fear that they might be losing their job. >> so important, the work you're doing, bringing these issues to light and uncomfortable and issues are the most important to bring to a public attention. so thank you so much. schwartz and mary robertson. their fifth episode of quiet on the set. its title, breaking the silence is going to premiere this sunday, april 7 at 8:00 p.m. eastern on investigation discovery. all four previous episodes, we should note are now available to stream on max. thank you so much. again thank you. >> jake, coming up next brand new details about the chaotic us withdrawal from afghanistan, revealing just how much officials were making up plans on the fly, we have the transcripts detained exclusively by cnn. stay with this is the big dam
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cnn is learning from exclusively ten transcripts from the testimony of three state department officials to the house foreign affairs committee, that the department had no working emergency evacuation plan and three officials were rushed into cobble in the day surrounding the taliban takeover with virtually no time to prepare the biden administration's failure to plan for their withdrawal threaten the safety and security of us personnel in country. >> the interviews are part of an ongoing investigation led by the republican in chairman mike mecole into the chaotic evacuation that resulted in the deaths of 13 us service members in a terrorist attack outside of the kabul airport the committee plans to do a report of all 16 interviews they conducted the officials painted a tumultuous picture of the evacuation. one testifying quote, we had to create from scratch tactical operations that would get our priority
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people into the airport. he added, we were roughly as effective as we could be under the circumstances another saying he was never briefed on an established evacuation plan because we were already in the midst of executing an evacuation that substantially exceeded the scope and scale of what had been contemplated. top us military generals suggested that the chaos could have been mitigated if the state department had called for an earlier non combatant evacuation, it was my assessment, but that decision came too late. >> we struggled to gain access to that plan and work with them over the months of july until we finally got a decision to execute >> those accusations have been disputed by the state department, the >> us did not want to publicly announce now let's planning for or the start of a neo joe as to not weaken the position of the venn afghan government potentially signaling a potential lack of faith. >> another state official testified to the setbacks on the ground due to a bleak
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reality the taliban were largely in control, quote, it was what will the taliban allow? will they let people move through? and how will they do it? and as someone who's worked in afghanistan for 19 years, it's a little bit while to tell people that you can trust the taliban, hold up your american passport, but it did kind of work those descriptions a far cry from what the state department said at the time, my >> understanding is that things are moving quite efficiently at this hour at the airport, at the airport now take the committee investigators told us that they are working towards a final report of all of these interviews that >> they conducted by the end of the year. and you talk to biden administration officials, they're cognizant of the fact that there is a political impetus here for the republicans. they want this chapter of biden's foreign policy legacy. obviously it was a damning chapter for him to be front and center around the
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times of the election in november, so that folks heading to the polls remember what it was like when the a withdrawal from afghanistan was occurring during the biden administration kylie atwood at the state department for us. thank you so much. the next one that has a lot of people talking. one of the largest cash heists ever in the history of los angeles, $30 million stolen from a storage facility. how well a former fbi special agent to turn to cnn correspondent is covering this case for us, and he'll tell us next. >> sunday on a special episode of the whole story. new interviews with the return israeli hostages in someone with you in the terrorists, with you every day, every second >> so very deep aspects of humanity that are taking away and the flag for the release of those stealing captivity. i >> worry moos that she will despair >> this is >> what i keep telling her in my mind. i don't stop the >> whole story the anderson
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but first, actual detectives will have to solve this actual mystery. who broke into what's called a cache storage facility and stole something like $30 in cold hard cash. so i guess it's hot cache. now, cnn's josh campbell is here with the details just happened last sunday night that's right, jake. >> and you know, this seems like it could be straight out of a screenplay written here in hollywood. but this highest in fact, real, we know now based on our sources that the fbi, as well as the los angeles police department or investment so getting this brazen robbery, it took place on sunday evening, on easter sunday, but the people there that worked at this facility didn't actually notice it until the next day. i'm told from a law enforcement course, one source at this group of burglars, they made their way into this facility without tripping any alarms, making the way inside the vault, and then carrying out all of that cash. i'm told that one key focus of the investment engaged you're right now, jake is trying to determine whether this group had any type of inside a knowledge about how this facility actually worked. but a lot of work going on behind the
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scenes, right now. i'm told well, there are conducting interviews, are also trying to pull cctv footage from in and around the area to try to identify the root of travel for these burglars, both to that facility and then as they left, now, we've seen burglaries here in the past in los angeles. it was a high back in 1997, those burglars took away from an armored car upwards of about $20 million. they were eventually caught as far as this latest big high still no word on the suspects j. >> so i have to ask josh what exactly some money storage facility i've never heard of this and obviously seems like a great place to so heist. why wouldn't people just put their cash into the bank >> yeah, that's a great question. so we're all familiar with the armored cars that go from business to business, collecting money. sometimes that goes to the bank but oftentimes businesses they're exchanging money and sometimes those funds go to the storage facilities where they can be counted, they can be processed, it can be stored. again moving around here, the la area from business to business, as far as why this
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particular facility that's a big question. right now, again, did they have some type of knowledge of this particular location? and for that matter, how sophisticated or was this collective of people? i've talked to one law enforcement source who said one possibility, this could be a cartel, this could be a group of organized burglars. work could be just some people who got together and decided we're going to go where the money is. and that case i mentioned from 1997 having that group actually evaded law enforcement for about two years until about two years later. one of those robbers actually tried to buy a house with a stack of bills that still had the same band wrapping that was on those bills, a realtor thought, okay. this is suspicious called police. that's how authorities rolled up that group a lab to wait and see where the money is here, where these people went out, how sophisticated they are and whether authorities can try to break open who this group is? >> all right. josh campbell in los angeles. thanks so much. all smiles for the president and senator bernie sanders, four years after these two were the last to standing rivals in the 2020 democratic primary, senator bernie sanders is going to join us in a few minutes.
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