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ridiculous, gouging. they're gouging your gouging clips, gouging. it's a whole let's industry anderson upwards of 5,500% jump in the flight prices. look at this. wow, that's crazy. yeah, isn't that nuts? >> that's just frodo get on fletcher's private plan to buffalo, you know what? i heard that he's looking up at the buffalo bills. they have a lot of money now, given that they got rid of stuff on dairy, william shatner is doing an event he told me during the eclipse, she's gonna be like narrating the eclipse. i can't remember what college he said he was doing, some stadium somewhere. i don't know. i will tell you that that would be absolutely awesome because the fact is if you have the voice of star trek with what, what else, how long will it actually last? >> like it will only, it depends on the >> location, but the whole equip eclipse will last for a little bit more than three minutes to a little bit more than four minutes, depending on exactly where you are. but of course you that yet sick very exciting, you pointed out the weather at this particular point. it looks like burlington, vermont is the place to be. do not go in south texas because the whether
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there's going to be significant and thank you very much. the newest continues right here on cnn i'd run next the breaking news, a major setback for trump tonight. a judge denying a desperate attempt to delay his first criminal trial, which starts in just days. this is the judge the pointed in the classified documents case is facing accusations that she is delaying the trial for the man who appointed her, trump himself also breaking congresswoman marjorie taylor greene speaks i think to our manu raju and tripling down on her threat to oust the speaker, mike johnson will she really do it? and khentii succeed >> plus more trouble for truth. social is the stuff stock tumbles. there now >> charges of insider trading lawsuit against the sides co-founders, who by the way, happens to be former apprentice stars. let's go out front good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. we begin with the breaking news and that is a trump lost tonight. a new york judge tonight rejecting one of trump's last ditch efforts to delay his criminal hush money
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trial. >> trump's >> team wanted the case delayed until after the supreme court rules on trump's immunity claim. >> right? that he immune from anything he did while he was president. but that ruling, of course, could take months for the supreme court. but as of tonight, trump is going to trial this month in that case, and just over ten days. judge juan merchan writing, this court finds that defendant had myriad opportunities to raise the claim of presidential immunity well before for march 7, 2024. and by the way, when you talk about myriad opportunities just to be clear, trump went to court for the first time in this case, appeared in court exactly one year ago. and the immunity claim only came today so that is a fail for trump's delay strategy in this case. but that strategy is finding fertile ground with the judge in florida tonight, a judge trump appointed judge aileen cannon, of course, is presiding over trump's classified documents case, and she is being accused of upping the ante on stalling the case to avoid trial and a
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special counsel, jack smith's frustration is now clearly evident. it was escaping filing that he put forth smith in it accusing the judge of putting the entire case in jeopardy before it even begins, specifically because of her unusual request the jury instructions in the case be based on trump's claim that he had the authority to take classified documents to mar-a-lago >> this is a >> judge who has repeatedly ruled for trump again and again unimportant claims in the case. >> she has >> slow rolled what is long been considered an open and shut case. very black and white with 40 counts against trump >> she's >> deleted so much, it's essentially at a standstill. she had originally scheduled to trial for may 20 recently those she said prosecutors proposed date of july 8th was too soon. and as of tonight, she has no date on the calendar for the trial to start among our biggest moves to solve the case, she aligned herself with trump and appointed a special master to review more than 11,000 records from mar-a-lago. think about that amount of time. >> well, that decision was
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overruled by the 11th circuit court, a court which by the way, is made up of judges are nominated by former president george w bush and trump as for trump, of course, when it comes to judge aileen cannon, he's gotten but praise >> i know it's a very highly respected judge, a very smart judge, and a very strong judge. i'm very proud to have appointed her, but she very smart and very strong and loves our country. i mean, loves our country. we need judges at love our country. so they do the right thing >> smart, strong. those are stunning words from trump when you compare them to what he has said about justices in his other cases >> this judge is a lunatic, is a nasty judge. i have a trump-hating judge. her whole life is not liking me evan perez is out front live in washington to begin our coverage tonight and evans, so this is breaking development in the new york hush money case.
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what more you learning about why the judge rejected trump's immunity claim, even as it comes in the final hour here after this has been an issue for over a year, the case itself and what other ways is trump trying to delay the case you've got it set to trial, of course. and just days >> right. aaron, he is he is throwing everything he can do at the wall to try to get this case delayed. and one of the things a judge points out in his ruling today judge marchand is he points out that trump actually did try to use this immunity claim when he tried to move this case to federal court, that that attempt, of course failed and the judge points out that given the fact that this request came so late, just days as you pointed out, before this case was supposed to go to trial it really what he says strains credulity of the court and the judges just not buying this. now, one of the things that is still in the offing the trunk, the trump team is trying to get the judge
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to be recused. there also saying that the raising the issue of pretrial publicity and public the city around this trial, of course, as you pointed out, the former president's attacks on the judge and attacks on the district attorney those are the things that are creating some at least some of the pretrial publicity, publicity that is surrounding this and so one of the things that also stood out to me in this ruling from the judge. it's very strange for the former president to be claiming immunity for something that is he alleged to have done before the 2016 in the 24 the 2016 campaign. and so that's one of the parts of this that has never really made any sense. the judge shooting this all down this trial appears now, certainly to be set to go to start in just ten days. erin. >> all right. evan, thank you very much. and such a crucial point, hard to claim presidential immunity for something that you did when you
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weren't president. i'd front now, ty cobb, a former trump white house lawyer. so thai obviously there's some intellectual hoops to jump through to even get there. so the judge then says no to trump's immunity claim in the hush money case. but as seven points out, his attorneys are still pursuing other avenues to try to delay the trial, to complain about the publicity around it, to get the judge kicked off all these things. the trial though is set to start in just days. right. and just over ten days on april 15 will trump succeed at delaying it beyond that >> i don't believe. so. although i don't think we're done with attempts to delay it, and i think that those attempts will get even more desperate. i would not be surprised to see trump's team tried to mandamus the judge over the recusal issue or over the immunity issue. i don't think either of those could be brought and good faith, but as the judge has
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pointed out, in the most recent hearing, he has very difficult time believing trump's attorneys are acting in good faith at this stage of the game. and i think that they don't feel to tethered by the ethical or evidentiary rules that should circumscribed those efforts. >> so that's the hush money case. and as i said, scheduled for april 15 here, i want to ask you about the other case that i mentioned you and i've talked about it a lot, but one in florida, the one that legal experts talk about four. i mean, what are we know? eight, ten months as an open and shut? and a year. i mean, where are we that it open and shut case and yet, we don't have a trial de >> well over you. what why do you think, judge? can installing it >> well, i think it's i i i recognize that many commentators today have tried to be polite about judge cannons missteps here and suggesting that they relate somehow to earn experience
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competence. i think that her i think the evidence from her bias is pretty palpable at this stage of the game. i think the 11th circuit tried desperately to draw a line for her at the time of the search warrant and the special master cases where they rebuked her very sternly for her making up basically making up to law and her lack of analysis of the required factors that went into those decisions. but but her delays here are extraordinary i mean, as as you highlighted as others violated she hasn't even set a trial date that's that's remarkable >> she ignored the government's >> request months ago to set the schedule under the classified information procedures act that there are multiple steps that have to be gone through and she hasn't she hasn't completed step one i think that along frankly doomed the case to not not start
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before the election or the next year's nine duration of whomever wins. but i think it's clear that her efforts to delay this continue >> the >> current matter that the filing was geared to today with regard to her baffling perception that the presidential records act somehow has any relationship at all to the espionage act. is stunning i think that jack smith, i think the, the, the filing today makes it plain that she has to rule. and if she doesn't rule under either under either scenario, there'll be in a position to take her up to the lens circuit. and i think 11th circuit will likely take her off the case. >> okay? so i want to ask you what that means, but the quickly just to be clear, you're saying that you don't by that this is just in competence or inexperience at this point >> no, i think i think the evidence is just too
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overwhelming. i mean, yes, she may be in competent, but at this stage of the game the hearn competence is so gross that i think it clearly creates the perception of impartiality of partiality. so in her attempt to put her thumb on the scale. so i think that should disqualify. >> all right. so if that happens is goes 11th circuit as you say, would be a next step and those judges, as i pointed out, who have rebuked her before appointed by bush and trump. they they they take her off the case. >> does >> that change whether when it can't start before the election situation for you i don't believe so. i >> think she's >> successfully achieved what >> appears to be her goal of favoring the president to the point where this cannot get to trial. there's just so much to be done. she is sitting on nine motions to dismiss three other significant motions, and the entire cfa process, steven process, which is it's complex i mean, not for the government
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because they've been through it before, but certainly for her who she seems to stumble on the most fundamental things month ago, she she tripped over the fundamental issue of a public trial when she closed the courtroom to even though the defendants family i end jury selection and in a case not this case, but in another case. yeah. she just doesn't she just doesn't seem to be up to this in any fashion >> all right. ty cobb, thank you. as always, i appreciate it >> my pleasure. thank you, aaron. all right. good to see you and david axelrod is with us now. i mean, david, this has been considered really an open and shut case for quite some time and you're heard ties analysis that he just doesn't see it in any scenario going to trial before the election how much, do, you think that helps trump >> well, i think it helps him a lot. there's a big body of evidence in polling that a conviction in any of these
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cases, but in these federal cases, in particular, would be harmful to him and his goal has been clearly throughout to try and delay all of these trials beyond the election. so look, i think that she tie is a lawyer and he said it in a lawyerly way, but it feels like this judge who he appointed is in the tank and she's done what he wanted, which is to help delay this trial beyond where it could be tried before this election >> in the contrast that you make, right? obviously this is one of the federal ones, but this was considered to be, as i said, and in many cases, you know, open an opening shot black and white. yeah. sure. you add political you had legal >> experts from all aspects of the political spectrum who agreed on that. so that that one's not gonna go to trial, but one that you have going to trial is not a federal case, rights new york case, and it's widely considered to be the weakest for a variety of reasons >> among them, a da, who is running for election had had campaigned in part on on going
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after trump. so if that case goes ahead, as it's expected to in the next ten days and that's the case you get and he's convicted maybe that helps him. what do you think >> no, i don't think it will help them. i look, i do think there's no doubt that the indictments helped him. it seems in probable. but 91 counts and four indictments strengthened him i'm through the primary season because we are living in tribal times and republicans rallied around trump he's very good at branding, these things in his direction and it helped him win the nomination. i don't think there's as much evidence that they that this will help them in a general election. and i don't think a conviction will there was a poll, a couple of weeks ago and politico that suggested that, particularly among independent voters, this would be very troubling if he were convicted, even 9% of republicans and aaron even in
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the exit polls that we took during the primary elections republican primary elections, on the average like 12% of trump voters said that he wouldn't be fit for office if he were convicted of a crime, they weren't distinguishing between any crimes. now he will try his already there's this bombast of the weekend was designed to try and soften the field for him. if he he is convicted by implying not just that the da was biased, but that the judge was biased. i'm sure you will denounce the jury as a trump-hating new york democratic security if he's convicted, the problem with the case has been you call it a hush money case. what it is paying the hush money isn't illegal. what was illegal was the way he hid the money that apparently was spent or the government alleges to try and keep this out of the election campaign and they considered an
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election expense. he he paid it as legal fees to michael cohen as a business expense. and so it's a little bit confusing. i said at the beginning, if you have to put the words porn star and novel legal theory in the same sentence, you have to really think about whether you should go forward with that. but there's a lot of evidence that this wasn't the only case in which he paid this hush money it's very much motivated by campaign considerations and so i think that i think that this will be damaging to him if it goes forward. the thing we ought to consider is what if he doesn't get convicted? what if there's a what is honoring what if there's an acquittal or a hung jury i could have a helpful effect for trump and coloring all of these prosecutions. >> i can be profound if that's the one that's the one thing you're going to get. >> all right. david axelrod. thank you very much next, the celebrity chef, jose andres speaking out after workers from his a group killed by an israeli airstrike
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trying to call but in the case of the moment, whatever happened to try to be telling idf why are they doing that? they were targeting in the zone in an area controlled by idea them know when that was, our teams moving on that route with two or more width, three cars and then they hit the third one and then we saw the consequences of that continuous targeted attack seven seven people that this was not use bad luck situation where we dropped the bomb in the braam place or not. this was over 1.51, 0.8 kilometers with a very defined humanitarian convoy that had signs in the top, in the roof. a very colorful logo that we are obviously very proud of. that that's very clear who we are and what we do. but i know is that we were targeted deliberately nonstop until
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everybody was dead in these convoy >> that >> that cannot be that cannot be the role of an army i'm so s2 that the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says that his forces committed a quote, grave >> mistake, and that it was unintentional. but that is doing little to quiet the growing global condemnation. the australian prime minister says his country is quote, outraged it's prime minister says the attack is caused understandable anger. prime minister of spain calling israel's response unacceptable and insufficient. of course, citizens from all those countries were killed and president biden, who is facing fierce resistance tonight over his response to the israeli war in gaza is said to be various over the deaths of the aid workers. but begin our coverage with melissa bell in jerusalem system targeted car my car. that's how the world central kitchen is describing the israeli military attack that killed seven aid workers in
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gaza. >> in an >> interview with reuters, the charity's founder and celebrity chef, jose andres, insistent. the wck had ordinary to the convoy's movements with the israeli military. >> we were targeted deliberately. this looks like is not a war against their resume anymore. seems easy. it's a war against manity itself. >> the attack has sparked international ouage, prompting several humanitarian organizations, iludingld central kitchen, to use r operations in za. at a time when civilians are starving israel's prime minister acknowledged the strike, saying that his forces unintentionally struck innocent people. but according to cnn's analysis of aftermath videos the attack appears to have consisted of multiple precision strikes in what was a deconflicted zone on two armored cars and one unarmored vehicle cnn has
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geolocated video and imagery of all the destroyed vehicles, at least one of which was clearly marked with a wck logo on its roof and this is just the latest in a string of israeli attacks on aid convoys last month, more than 100 people were killed in northern gaza. as israeli troops opened fire near civilians, gathering around food aid trucks with some run over by fleeing vehicles in the chaos. >> in >> what's become known chillingly as the flour massacre israel denied targeting the aid trucks, saying the israeli defense forces fired at quotes suspects nearby and less than a week later, witnesses said at least 20 people were killed by israeli shelling as they waited for desperately needed food in gaza city. israel denied it was responsible for the deaths, claiming them instead, on palestinian militants even israel's closest ally, the
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united states, has strongly condemned the wck attack, but said it would not affect their efforts to deliver aid to gaza by sea. >> that effort is ongoing depending on working hard on that. and i know they brief on that on a regular occasion and we want to get that stood up as soon as possible. of course, this strike does reveal the very difficult situation that aid workers on the ground inside gaza face when it comes to not just receiving aid in gaza, but then actually delivering it every day that passes in gaza. hunger becomes more evidence. >> and despite israel facing increased >> scrutiny over its conduct in the war palestinians continued to face deadly violence in their desperate efforts to survive we've also, aaron had this heartbreaking tweet from chef jose andres this evening dedicated to zomi frankcom, the australian aid worker there was killed playing a video of her in pakistan when she was working for the organization already and saying that he was
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heartbroken, it's fitting that he wished he'd never even set up world central kitchen. then he explains, she might still be alive making people feel that they were the most beloved people in the world and saying, towards the end of the tweet that he will meet her again one day. >> to hug her. this outpouring of grief comes, of course, even admit the growing outrage. aaron, at what has happened over in gaza and israeli promises that they will get to the bottom of it. >> moos. so thank you very much. and with me now, here, retired army lieutenant general ben hodges, who is commanding general of united states army in europe. >> so >> general jose andres obviously heartbroken, saying he wishes he didn't even found this organization in which he has done such great good around the world because of this horrible tragedy. he says that they were somatically targeted. any lays out why they were three strikes. they were precision strikes they were operating labeled cars, coordinated with the idf in a
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humanitarian zone. on a road where the idf knew where he lays all of that out. do you think he's right that this was systematically targeted? >> of course is gut wrenching to hear his report and talking about his people. the burden is on the israeli defense force to protect all civilians from being injured or killed. this the responsibility of the israeli defense force. and they obviously failed here now, this convoy was coordinated with the idf, the israeli defense force knew it was passing through there. they knew the route. this was all or organized. and then to lose to lose track of it doesn't doesn't wash i've had convoys at world food convoys or other targets and we were told to make sure nothing happened to. so you devote attention to it and clearly if the leadership and the idf was serious about protecting against collateral damage and casualties like this, something like this convoy would never been had. >> all right. so there was an article today in a british newspaper, the guardian. it was
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about ai and how israel is using it. they say to target. so a senior official, the idf is taking issue with many points in the article, kernel learner. i just want to read one thing that he's taken i think issue with. he says no hamas individual was automatically approved for attack with an expected 15 to 20 casualties. now i'm presuming he's talking generally not specifically to this incident obviously what stood out to me was the use of the word automatically so it means that you could approve an attack that would have 15 to 20 candidates. >> i thought his rebuttal of the article was really, really very, very narrow and thin when you should have just said, it is israeli defense force policy, we do everything possible to limit civilian casualties we would never allow civilian casualties to happen and instead, what he did is kind of worded it in such a way that makes it sound. we don't we don't actually do that it was not a compelling rebuttal >> so is it is it possible then what jose andres is essentially
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saying here? >> is that >> they targeted that convoy knowing it was world central kitchen, knowing they were innocent people in it, being willing to kill aid workers because they thought that a hamas operative was among them. my way, 200 other aid workers had been killed according to the state department today. so that's that's what jose andres is saying is possible to happen it's possible that happen. >> yes, it is possible because i think that the idf has become i don't want to say callous towards civilian casualties, but their tolerance for collateral damage is much higher. for us. it's zero and so the fact that they would be willing to strike a convoy because they thought there was a hamas operative inside the convoy, that they would be willing to accept the international heat. well, sorry for the strike every single car. no, maybe win that that person would only be in one car maybe they weren't sure exactly which car he was in, right. but if that's what happened, that definitely >> definitionally means they are willing to kill every saturday
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>> i mean, this is the kind of thing when you talk about targeting and preventing collateral damage, you do an assessment of who else is in the the radius of where the impact is going to be and then depending on what that is, commanders at that level say, no way we can't do it. it's not worth that kind of loss. and it looks to me based on operations over the last several months that the israeli tolerance for collateral damage is money much higher than any, certainly any us forces would ever half channel. >> thank you very much >> appreciate it >> the next breaking news from manu manu raju has new reporting tonight. congresswoman marjorie taylor, greene's effort to fire speaker mike johnson is continuing and you'll see what she just told him, what she's gonna do. >> also just >> in democrats with a new ad taking on robert f. kennedy jr. andrew yang, who rfk junior considered to be his running mate to be out fine get your
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i'm taylor available on the app well, app store or android >> i'm >> arlette saenz at the white house. and this is cnn breaking news, not backing down congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and a new interview with our manu raju, saying she's furious with speaker mike johnson over his plans to move forward with an aid package for ukraine she calls it quote, one of the most egregious things and quote, but he could do. and it comes down as she is now doubling down on her threat to oust johnson as speaker. mano is out front on capitol hill mano, you know, this is a house now or anybody has the ability to oust the speaker. this is the work of i guess what, what kevin mccarthy originally did, green digging her heels in and moving ahead with this, what did she say to you? >> yes. she's making clear that she is not backing off
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this threats. you still angry the deal that mike johnson caught to keep the government open? last month, something that he cut with democrats and the white house. it was unveiled essentially the last minute and push through over the objections of hard-liners like ourselves, he has offered a resolution to oust mike johnson as speaker eagle, but she is not detail when she plans to call that up to the house floor or something that you can do as soon as next week and g had a blunt warning to mike johnson, who is now trying to call me put together an aid package for ukraine at this desperate moment in the war against russia forward with that aid package. and she warned that that potentially could trigger an effort to oust him that cafe right now, funding ukraine is probably one of the most egregious things that you can do for maybe democrats could >> vote with some republicans for someone who is more moderate than like johnson i don't think even get any more moderate than micron for monday thursday, there's not even any daylight between him and nancy
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for >> people are fed up with republicans that say one thing and turn around and literally joined the clock and just continue the same old crap. everybody's tired. >> i'm here. mike johnson has people literally turned in to mitch mcconnell's twin and warned >> as you can see, she is discounting the concerns among some are fellow republicans that ousting mike johnson could lead to a more moderate republican speaker criticizing the deal-making, the very conservative mike johnson has made essentially equating him to nancy pelosi. there, but she also errand did not say if he has spoken to donald trump about this, but she does plan to speak with the speaker himself on friday. >> and we'll see what happens with that. all right, manu. thank you so much for sharing that new reporting with us and i want to go now to the former republican congressman adam kinzinger. well, i guess you're glad you're not there right now. but we just heard manet's
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reporting, right. so marjorie taylor-greene threatening to oust johnson as speaker. and now that's the way it goes in the gop. you just need one person you can bring it to the floor do you think she'll really do it and could it happen >> look, i mean, the gop is ungovernable right now and it's because kevin mccarthy agreed to the rule that just one person could bring forward a motion to vacate the chair. and so now, you know, look, there's 200 some republican members of congress that are not willing to pull that trigger because they're, to an extent team players, they understand how policy works and how governance works. this is just basic cost. you can't beat say that you're for the constitution like marjorie taylor greene does. and then b. upset, win the majority wants something done, but you don't want it done. so you just take your ball and go home. are you tried to blow up the system? will she do it? >> look, >> i said from the beginning, this wasn't about remember she introduced this pretending she was outraged about the deal to keep the government open, god
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forbid, the government's is open, right? >> but what was, was >> actually she tried to do a sword of damocles over the speakers on it's amazing to me by the way, aaron, that like funding ukraine in this existential moment is what she's willing. the hill that she is willing to die on, it goes to save a lot, will shape. >> i think she >> very well may and the question is, what does speaker johnson do? because if he capitulates to her he will be an ineffective speaker for the rest of his speakership. it'd be stands up to where he's gonna get a little bit of his power back, which is interesting because you say if you cave to that, i mean you become a unit. you don't have you basically are going to cave to anybody on absolutely anything so it's very interesting to see what actually does happen what go ahead >> no, i was just going to say that the problem is those that are supportive of ukraine funding, for instance, they could play this exact game, and actually gives speaker johnson
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some backing by saying fine, if marjorie taylor greene drops a motion to vacate because you put ukraine aid on the floor will drop a motion to vacate if you don't or will shut down every rule vote, which is the thing that actually makes the house work. that would b playing hardball on the other side and wouldually give the speaker the ability then to say, i don't have a choice, i'm going to do the right hey thing here and cut a deal with the democrats. but unfortunately, on the republican side, they're unwilling to do that. >> it's interesting though, when you talk about ukraine aid, and obviously it's a challenge to topic and a lot of polling, but there are a lot of republicans who are very supportive of it and very supportive of ukraine. lot of them happened have been people who voted for nikki haley and yesterday, when you looked at that primary wisconsin, connecticut, new york, rhode island, nikki haley walked away with double-digits and every single one of those states, she dropped out a month ago, >> double digits what does that say to you? >> that's huge because that is somebody that goes to vote. and
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it's not like they just voted early before she dropped out. they voted after she dropped out. so they made it very clear that they wanted to send a message. every one of those that voted to her for her, they wanted to send a message that they are not what donald trump. now let's keep in mind those voters are probably very pro ukraine, right? there are probably very probe is real pro taiwan. >> this >> is a moment for the president mr. biden, to actually doubled down on ukraine to come out every day and the the republicans every day, he should be attacking the republicans for blocking ukraine. that's his opportunity. need to get these voters and i hope they do that. >> all right. thank you very much, congressman. always appreciate seeing you. >> you bet. >> next democrats, all of a sudden paying very close attention to what is going on. omaha nebraska at the state considers a move good cost, biden the entire election, and we're going to lay out the math for you plus more problems for trump's truth, social now the site has an insider trading scandal going on i'm trying to
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just look at this. one adviser, biden's easiest path to really flexion. >> if you >> hold the three swing states of pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin and loses the rest of them is going to lose georgia, lose all those. biden gets to 2609 >> well, you notice when >> you need to 70. so obviously the difference there is one and that one vote would be the vote in nebraska the vote noma hot, that gives biden to 70. and the win. >> but >> if this scenario plays out with trump getting his way in nebraska, then both of them are tied 2609 to 2609. and then it will be the house of representatives who makes the decision for now. andrew yang, former 2020 democratic presidential candidate. now the co-founder of the forward party and independent 2024 candidate, rfk junior also considered you to be his running mate, as well as we've reported so look, every vote matters the polls whatever take them on any given day. but i just laid out a very realistic scenario. what we're in right now, if you look at
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the polls by does not going to win all of the swing states. so that's an area that we laid out is that could be it on election night. >> how >> worried are you about a potential change in the nebraska rules? >> i think this is very savvy on the part of the trump campaign is a very legitimate, feasible scenario that you end up with 2609 to 2609. and then this one electoral vote could tip the scales. and if it does go to the house, then the republican majority will obviously you vote in trump. so the nebraska state legislature, it's super majority he republicans. this has a very real chance of passing. i'm someone who thinks that proportionate allocation of electoral votes is a much better system. why should the swing states get all the political ads and the fun? i mean, it would be great matter where you live in a deeply rad are deeply blue state. >> yeah, i mean, we all know that there are about six pivotal swing states. you listed them just now that are going to decide this thing. >> so in that context, another person who's been talking about a broken two-party system
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is rfk junior and you know, you speak now from the forward party as you've been in, but the dnc has launched a new mobile billboard for that. i'll show it. i'm trying to tie trump to kennedy, so they've been putting up outside is his rallies. rfk, maga, and they're putting these things up >> let me play part of the ad. they just put up thank you. >> down back so this is what it comes to write. i mean, it's just this is the where we are brand new gallup poll those shows 30% of adults don't think biden or trump would be good more adults think trump would be better than biden. the lesser of two evils, i suppose in that world >> so >> how worried should biden b. and how worried should democrats b. about the third party threat, whatever rfk junior now finds himself as an independent. >> oh, you'll see analogous adds to the republican camp
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painting, rfk as a liberal democrat you know, and a vote for him is essentially vote for biden. and so both parties are going to try and play this game because this vote, this election is going to get decided that the margins the fact is, i've seen polls that show rfk being neutral. i've seen some showing that he takes votes from biden and from trump. and so both major parties are trying like mad to get their voters to see rfk as a vote for the other side. >> so he said something the other night when he was here and we had a long conversation and he said repeatedly that he could make the argument that joe biden is bigger threat to democracy than donald trump despite he was very clear to excoriate trump's efforts on january 6. i wanted to play just part of what he said well, listen, i can make the argument and biden as much worse threat to democracy. and the reason for that is president biden is
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the first candidate in history, the first president in history. that has used the federal agencies to censor political speech. so sensors so just to be clear, you're saying you could make an argument that president biden is a worse threat to democracy than he's upset that >> biden had had pushed have some of the social media posts about somebody dying of covid removed from misinformation. that's the lawsuit he's referring to >> but this is really hit a chord with me people >> what do you think about this? do you think it's obvious who is a bigger threat? >> i'm in anyone but trump guy. i think that trump would be catastrophe in second term, but the fact is the democrats literally canceled primaries in north carolina and florida and then making the case that, hey vote for browse to preserve democracy. they've also boosted election deniers in republican primaries because they think funding, yes, seven figure of funding for folks that are meant to be the enemy
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trouble for trump's truth, social to investors, just pleading guilty to taking part in an >> insider trading scheme linked to the deal. that brought trump's social media business public. this is trump's company is suing two of truth, social's co-founders who happened to be former apprentice contestants, all the while, star trump media, which owns trump's truth, social, i'm sorry misspeak has lost more than $2 billion of market value and it just started trading the other day. so what does all this mean for donald trump? tom foreman is outfront too big to rig >> sizzling insider trading scandal is rocking the business deal that brought donald trump's truth social, to the public market with billions at stake. simply put two players and accompany that help trump strike that deal pleaded guilty to securities fraud, admitting they illegally used secret information to make millions for themselv and some frnds,ven t stock's
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value for regular invests has soared and sunk by the day, dana alexander focuses on trump's businesses for forbes. well, you have >> is arguably the most hyped up wildly trading new stock that we've seen in a heck of a long time, we must make america pray again. >> although trump relies heavily on truth social for selling bibles, settling scores, and pushing the politics of revenge in terms of users, his social media venture has been an intranet get backwater compared to the giants with fewer than a half million people using it each month, trump's personal worth dropped by $1 earlier this week after a regulatory filing revealed truth, social loss more than 58 million last year. so who's backing this new stuff? analysts say it's not savvy investors of largely mom and pop trump's supporters >> people are who really want
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to help donald trump out and believe in donald trump and believe in his vision, trump has gone to court trying to push out too early partners in this venture. former contestants from his reality show, the prentice, dandy. >> you're fired west. you're fired >> if he wins, that could increase his share of any dividends. but he'll still have to wait about a half year before he can lay his hands on any of the theoretical billions the company is currently worth. >> if you valued this business like a typical business, right now, you'd be looking closer to the 100 million figure, then you are any of these billion-dollar figures >> then you heard that, right? as this cools down, which almost every analyst says it has to do, it could be worth off a lot, lot less, meaning trump might make millions off but but as far less likely to make the billions everyone's been talking about aaron >> all right. tom. thank you veryh.