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for donald trump. well he has got a message on his own plus the breaking news out of taiwan. have you seen the images already? a massive earthquake rattles the island. the strongest quake and italy, quarter of a century, a live update and just moments tonight alarm codes lie all right, by now, we've all heard about the undecided right. but president biden his face and what we maybe his mode worrying opponents so far in the battleground state of wisconsin, the uncommitted, they're coming, they're counting switching those primary votes as we speak. and now we've got another vocab term to consider. the uninstructed so far there are more than 37,000 votes for uninstructed and even though biden won easily, 37,000 votes is nothing and erase as tight as this he said another warning to the president on his handling of israel's war in

gaza. and the risk it poses for his chances at reelection. president biden even running a statement that this evening that is real as quote, not done enough to protect civilians and saying he is outraged and heartbroken over the deaths of aid workers from world central kitchen in israeli strike in gaza the president changing plans to host a dinner tonight to break the ramadan fast after pushback from guests who said it would be inappropriate while people are starving in gaza meanwhile, donald trump is hammering joe biden on immigration using incendiary language like quote, border, border, bloodbath, and threatening if he doesn't win. this could be the last election in america. >> i'm here tonight to declare that joe biden's border bloodbath. remember they used the name bloodbath. i was talking about something entirely different, but this is a border bloodbath ends the

day. i take the oath of office. if we don't win this may be the last election our country ever has. and that could be that's where we're going. because joe biden is a threat to democracy. he's the threat to democracy trump also dangling a promise statement next week on florida's six-week abortion ban, which will be on the ballot again in the fall, voters aside and the state constitutional amendment that would protect the right to an abortion in florida. now, it's frankly more than fair to wonder why exactly it's going to take him a week to come up with the state eight min when he's been crowing about the demise of roe v. wade for almost two years. i mean, he's been taking credit for overturning it every chance he gets. well, he's saying credit democrats are saying that he is responsible. that's a point democrats aren't letting anyone forget directly blaming trump for bands like the one in florida that president biden says, quote, are putting health and lives of millions of women at risk. i want to bring in

mega in hayes, former specialists if this into president biden and former republican congressman joe walsh is also here. welcome to you both. what a night. i mean, it's hard to imagine we are still in the sort of called primary season nine. we have these two candidates it's at this point, but the third party candidate really seems to be uncommitted or uninstructed. meghan to you first, this is a real problem for biden and the humanitarian crisis also getting worse. there was a strike on the aid workers just yesterday. and he is getting protested every event that he has. so how how does biden course correct. if at all >> look, i think that he definitely needs to take into account with these folks are saying it's a huge problem for him this entire conflict is fraught with problems for the administration. there's no question that there needs to be more humanitarian aid done in gaza. i know being with him when we were in poland and working with world central kitchen. this is a personal to him. he is friends with jose andres. we saw with the work they were doing firsthand when

we were there it's extremely devastating to have this attack happened and then for bibi to not referred nine to netanyahu, not to take responsibility in a real way or have any sort of remorse or feeling towards this is devastated if they ministration. >> what did you make of biden's response and reaction to that? now i'm talking about how he's outrage and heartbroken that they have not done enough to protect civilians. >> i think to what megan said, laura, look, this is a bad issue for him. why >> because >> his pro-israel but this divides his base. the left is not pro-israel. most moderate democrat shower or so it divides his very voting coalition and laura, when he tries to play it cautiously down the middle on this issue, he pleases no one what he needs to do is stand in front of his base and say, i'm pro-israel, i'm going the listened to your concerns, but laura, he's going to have to confront his left flank on this issue is saying is pro-israel going to solve the problem of mine, his base, i don't i don't think so. >> i don't think i don't think that i think that uncommitted

is a huge issue and i think that you need those people to turn out and you need these people to turn out in these battleground states like michigan has a huge error population like you can't isolate all these folks. i do think it solves some of the issue, but i don't think it solves the problem completely. >> i mean, one of the questions people have is, are you uncommitted now, but ultimately going to vote for biden later on. that's the key turnout, right? because many people who were uncommitted now aren't going to go for trump. most well, and trump's got this problem. >> well, what >> turned out, we'll turn out eventually in vote for it, just like i think most nikki haley voters are going to support trump and theoden day. >> look this is >> an angry electorate. we are living in an angry populace moment trump's and evil demagogue. why are people? thinking about rfk junior? because they're looking for something different trump feeds. this with he inflames this anger with bad stuff. but joe biden doesn't recognize laura, how angry the populaces. he's gotta get his arms around

that. >> well, if the population is that angry great. does the inflammatory rhetoric of trump as relates to say, the border is that feeding the beast? >> i think i do think he recognizes how angry they are. i just i'm not sure that his his tenor and demeanor and his words are going to helping the cause, right? like there are people are listening to trump and people are getting excited and by the incendiary language, and that's just not joe biden style. that's not how he's going to run. he runs a much different, get more empathy and more compassion for folks. and it comes across when he's campaigning. so i think that it is a challenge for him to connect with folks that are more fired up and more, uh, more than thin near. >> but does the rhetoric make people have a visceral reaction such that they be more inclined to turn out oh, yes. and weirdly, again, everything trump's spouts is cruel and just bigoted bs and he did it again today, laura. but it doesn't hurt him even a lot of a lot of black voters and brown voters are concerned about

crime in the border. it, even though trump lies about it he feeds into it. i agree with meghan biden's biden, but biden needs to address these issues head-on. >> i mean, trump is talking about a woman by the name of ruby garcia, who was tragically killed also by an illegal emory. listen to what he had to say on this issue. >> 11 days ago right here in kent county at 25-year-old michigan woman named ruby garcia, who's become very well-known, named beautiful young woman. we savagely murdered by an illegal alien criminal. now ruby is loved ones and community are left grieving for this incredible young woman. i spoke to some of her family >> well, on that point tonight, ruby garcia, his family, or assist her, said that no one from her family ever spoke to travelers. so you're not surprised by that? oh god >> not at all. i mean, his his entire purpose, laura, is two dear the hell out of voters and

he'll lie to do it >> when you look at this issue. and there's so there has been so many people from say, the un and on where people have looked in, been very critical about the use of people in their tragedy for political gain. and there has been fierce critique from both sides against both parties, frankly is there a way to address and confront especially the issues of crime and the intersection of immigration policy without alienating both sides. >> i would hope so. i mean, that's what democracy is supposed to be built on. but i just have not seeing it with this election. i think look the border, they had a border bill that was bipartisan in and trump put a stop to it with his republicans on the house side. so you kind of wonder, you sit back and wonder like how are you now blaming president biden for this when you're the one who and your supporters are the ones that didn't want to pass this through when they had a bipartisan bonus and it's just, you just kinda sit back and think to yourself, like people who are traveling thousands of miles to cross the border for a hope of a better life, like we

have a real problem here that we need to address, but not all people, not all immigrants are animals like he called them today like that's an incendiary statement that's just so to this. and so hateful that it's just it's kinda hard to understand what's happening. >> and i want to hear joe biden shade that i want to hear joe biden say that in front of real life people, instead of ignoring the issue. >> well, here's what he is saying. it's not an issue where frankly there are people traveling thousands of miles, but it's not for migratory purposes. it's because of abortion laws in this country in particular, here he is confronting what democrats believed to be a winning issue for them. >> because for 54 years they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated. and i did it and i'm proud to have done it in 2016, donald trump ran to overturn roe v. wade. >> now, in 2024, he's running to pass a national ban on a woman's right to choose i'm running to make roe v. wade the law of the land again >> so they think that maybe florida might be into play now

because of this six-week abortion ban and it'll be on the ballot in november. is it just for thinking? >> no, it could be a look, this is the best issue the democrat crouch have and laura, my fellow republicans know this is their achilles heel >> what do you think? >> i hundred percent agree with you? i think it's shown in the midterms and there's a bunch of states, just an alabama recently where the state delegate person one right after the ivf ruling, there's just this is a losing issue for republicans and i, it's also a very important issue for not only women but menn as well. and it pulls really well. so i'm not understanding why the republicans are not understanding that this is not a winning issue for them, or why it will take a week for trump to have a position on this. i mean, i just had to say when you think about the amount of time i mean, for so long and then carnations about reproductive rights and about abortion. the week by week has been the crucial issue. and so if a week doesn't matter, if a week is nothing politically, and why is it so strict in terms of the reduction of

rights? meghan hayes, joe walsh. thank you both so much. if you thought donald trump was staying on script tonight and focusing on the issues, well, listen to him comparing his legal troubles to those of one wait for it. >> al capone. i got indicted more than alfonso capone scarface >> now, bad. he was you know, these i know somebody guys in the front row, the tough guys if you ever looked at alfonso capone, you wouldn't be tough at all? you'd be dead by the morning, most likely, i got indicted more than l fonts. alphonse was a tough ban. they did a movie called scarface, check it out, even was have to eat, don't want to deal with it. >> i've never heard them called alphonse. i'm i don't know. just saying that anyway, joining me now, norm eisen, he is a cnn legal analyst and the author of trying trump and a former white house ethics czar norm. i'm so glad that you're here today. i'm all for a movie reference. i happen to love the movie scarface. i

wherever out, but shiino does frankly, i do love he makes a lot of comparisons for themselves. one of the things he continues to believe is that he is entirely persecuted and he blames judges and whether he saying hello to his little friend, the one he has now is recusal talk to me about the issue of recusal here, because the goal in trying to attack the judge's daughter to me is all about him trying to get out of having that judge preside over the case it's a little strange for a law and order candidate to embrace the memory of al capone. but it's even stranger. laura, to go back to the court when judge immer sean has already ruled that the activities of his adult daughter sure do not provide a basis for recusal he even went to the new york judicial epics

authorities and he got a formal opinion and they said, if your daughter is not a party in the case if her business is not a party in the case, if she's not a witness in the case adult kids are allowed to have lives. so why is donald trump having lost this raising it again, pure politics. it is a losing legal issue. >> now, many would look at them on a lean into your ethics chops here, which are extensive somewhat look at this issue and say, well, hold on a second if the fact that this is an adult daughter says it can be totally compartmentalize from the father, the judge, why is the same not true for say, a clarence thomas and his wife? >> well, the my ethics experience it as being the ethics czar for barack obama and i can tell you that never once in his eight years in office that he compares himself to al capone. that's kind of an ethics benchmark

>> now, and that's a pretty high bar. but look at the difference between the clarence thomas situation where his wife, ginni, was a witness who testified to the january 6 committee. she was involved in the events she spoke to some of those who are being prosecuted, including mark meadows in fulton county for their involvement in the events that culminated in january 6, that falls within this boundary that the new york ethics authorities pointed to. if a judge has a relative who's a witness, but laura and merge, sean is not a witness in the case, so i don't think we're going to see donald trump say that clarence thomas, most recused from the immunity case that is about whether donald trump is immune from prosecution. so there is an element of hypocrisy here. and using the court to right campaign press releases that does not make

judges happy >> one of the things that merge schein spoke about was that the motion contains a daisy chain of innuendo i've made a daisy chain. they were actually like dandelions, but that's neither here nor there. when you look at the idea, there's no facts, it's just the political hyperbole. he's obviously hoping that this is heard by those who might receive the information i e a jury >> there is an element of seeking to taint the jury pool and that's what he's struggling against. that's part of what gag orders are about. the judge talked very explicitly in his ruling yesterday about the he intimidating effect that trump's behavior can have on juries. but i think the primary strategy there is trump wants a hung jury. there is very powerful evidence in this case. i right about that. and trying trump we looked at the data on almost ten thousands of these falsifying business records

cases, hundreds of them felony ones resulted in incarceration that makes trump nervous. what's his solution? he wants one juror, one pro trump juror who will hang that jury. so he is playing to that. and of course, his poem political audience, feeding their grievances with this constant drumbeat, finding something to complain about what the judge and even more, he doesn't want this trial to go forward on april 15 of jury selection, he would like this judge to not oversee this case, but just really quick, what is the standard that has to take place for a judge? should recuse themselves. when does it become mandatory? >> well, when a judge has an actual disqualifying conflict or an appearance of a conflict if his daughter were a witness in the case, if he had a financial interest in the case, those kinds as of things

constitute a conflict. we are not remotely close to that here and this, judge is not going to disqualify himself and nobody else is going to disqualify him. it's a pr move by trump. >> well, we will see what happens are my isn't always great here for you. the book coming out to trying trumbull really really interesting and timely read >> also a >> major earthquake rocking taiwan tonight it's the worst and 25 years. i mean, look at this. >> there was a live >> news broadcast interrupted. the camera was shaking, debris was falling from the ceiling and buildings like this are on the verge of collapse we've got a live report for you next seven hours. >> astronauts setting off on a scientific mission. >> they were doing great. >> columbia, houston com check. >> we hear nothing if you work in spaceflight, this is the worst possible thing i could ever happen

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>> i'm caitlin paul in washington and this is cnn we have breaking news, a major seven magnitude earthquake striking near the east coast of taiwan. you can see just some damage there. >> a building left completely >> tilted, the shaking so bad debris began falling from the ceiling during this tv broadcast, what >> you'll see what mount sinai good. easy >> the large and alarming earthquake like you saw in that video there to have shaken taiwan. now, what we know about this earthquake is that its epicenter was very close to what allen county in eastern taiwan. this is a very popular tourist destination. it is a rural part of taiwan on an actually where most of these earthquakes take place and

taiwan. >> now, we also >> know that this is the biggest earthquake in 25 years, the last one was back in 1999 when an earthquake of a magnitude of seven killed more than 2,400 people in taiwan. now, for this specific earthquake that took place, this morning we haven't heard any official reports about deaths so far, but the taiwanese government is reporting about injuries. some people stuck in these homes and buildings. in fact, 26 buildings have been destroyed and collapsed. we're also hearing about roads being partially destroyed and more than 91,000 households without power. now, in response to this natural disaster, the taiwanese defense ministry has dispatched military troops to assist with evacuation efforts. now this is very common protocol. you see military troops work with local governments to try to get people to safety, to higher ground. now, we also know that in collin county, all schools and work have been suspended for today because of these it's constant aftershocks that we've been seeing. and the taiwanese government has warned

that this could continue for the next three to four days. and let me tell you, laura, as someone who lives in a very seismically active country japan, these aftershocks can be just as terrifying as the initial earthquake because you never know when the shaking is going to stop. laura hanako montgomery. thank you for bringing us the very latest. please keep us updated now, i want to turn to a small town in oklahoma tonight, sending frankly, a very big message voters in enid, giving the boot to a council member with white supremacist ties his name is judd blevins and he was elected to the city council last year by just 36 votes >> and then >> his past began to get more and more attention. and you can see him here if that scene looks familiar, it's probably because you've seen it before. that's the 2017 unite the right it rally or neo-nazis and white nationalists march through the streets of

charlottesville, virginia judge says he was protesting the removal of confederate statues, but it doesn't end there the monitoring group called right wing watch, later reported he was a recruiter for a white nationalist group. it says that he posted offensive messages like these in an online discussion group. now, once all that began to spread more widely, it led to a push to then recall him from the council and now he's out. listen to cheryl patterson in that recall as what judd's about the accusations. >> well >> maybe wishy washy is the way to describe it at best. he's apologized at times, denying he is a white nationalist, but he's also been defiant and has held his ground and being able to speak freely really he was on the brink of being censored last fall, but that sensor was postponed after the only black commissioner on the city council forgave him i want to

do one thing before we quit >> thank you. stand up do you love me? >> yes, i do. >> as a brother in christ i love you too i'll forgive you >> that, commissioner derwin norwood, he joins me now. derwin, thank you so much for joining me. how are you this evening >> i'm doing great, laura, thank you for having me i appreciate it. well. >> i'm glad you're here. i want i'm well, thank you. and i'm glad that you are here. i want to get to that moment of forgiveness that frankly, i have been replaying in my mind even after seeing it. but first i do want to ask you about these results judd blevins has been recalled officially. what is your reaction >> well, it's a blessing to see him relieved i've gotten to know him a little bit more

personally, than anyone else on the council. and it confident he shared things with me. and i'm aware of the fact that it's bigger than judd blevins is a national problem that we have had for a long time and their citizens and enough, there were brave enough to take it upon themselves to fight back against white supremacy i feel sorry for judd you know, and the conversations that he's had with me privately >> i really know how he >> feels about certain situations and things that have happened that he's not going to share with everyone else so keep those conversations and i'm i'm intrigued by the trusting rapport that you have built. but what about those conversations has made you feel sorry for him? >> just the fact that he got caught up.

>> you know, he went to the military, came back to the united states and during the trump era? >> i'm just going to tell the truth tonight >> he heard things that >> inspired him and made him feel that his race was in trouble and he needed to defend. >> and you know his heritage more than anything else. he felt the need to defend his heritage >> when you hear that, especially given his military service, you can imagine there are many members of the military who would hear that and think that's an to the protection of the values we hold so dear in spite of the history of, we know the experience of many black soldiers returning from world war ii and beyond. >> but let me ask you >> were you surprised to hear that his military experience? was a catalyst

>> yes absolutely i was you know, i've had many uncles. >> my father he served in the military himself, so i've never been in the military you know, there's things that happen in the military just like they do in the civilian world that we don't know anything about those experiences can change your perception you know, and they can have effects on, you short-term and long-term. you ought to life >> is that was motivated you to forgive him >> well what, actually motivated me to forgive him was my upbringing mb pentecostal holiness church, which is the church of god in christ i was trained >> that >> alsos belong to god. >> you know, i read it in god's word >> and >> been a man of god myself i felt like if i can speak about

it or for each on it, i need to live it >> so i want it >> to be an example >> for the former commissioner. i want it to be his example when i read the life of a possible paul there was a great change that took place >> and i believe >> that god can change anyone if they want to be changed >> why no codec? very well, many of my family members and florida are members of a church of god in christ. and i have to ask you, when i'm looking at that moment the pace of that conversation had me wondering at first, were you were either of you aware he know that you are going to ask him that question about your his love for you at that time he did not. neither did i really, spirit of god is moving. >> you don't have any control >> you know, and when those convictions come about, you just have to react and, you know, being prayerful and believing in fasting the power

of the holy ghost. you don't know which way he's going to move yet. >> but when it happens, it happens. so i wanted got to get the glory in all of this >> let me ask you when you look at this and i have to wonder given the nature of your relationship that you have explained and you seem to gotten either closer with him, are understood him in different way? do you think his ousting from this council is going to trigger him to revert to the beliefs he once had or might still have hopefully not because the way i look at it, laura, is the fight that he's an individual. he has a soul. i don't care about his ignaty has race or anything what i care about is this, so i want to see true change and if i can lead that individual that can help him along the way i'm not

taking it personal >> i feel like i have a mission to do and that's to help convert individuals who have been deceived have you spoken to him tonight since he was ousted >> no, ma'am. i spoke to him last friday and i explained to him that you know, i have talking to cnn and i did an interview with him and my father's church, westside church of god in christ. >> and >> he thanked me and he said derwin, i respect you and i've told him i said judd. when i watched you up on that stage i felt sorry for you >> you were struggling. you were really going through. >> and when i seen his mother she came up to me and she introduced herself to me it hit me because i could see the pain in her eyes. >> and >> he told me he said, you're absolutely right this is really

hurting my mother there are humans. we all make mistakes >> what did you understand to be hurting her? the admission from her son or the attention that was being provided i believe all of the above. i believe that when i looked at her no, no, mother wants to see her house, so no. you certainly do not have any mother would know derwin norwood. thank you so much >> thank you, laura, for having me. >> god bless you. >> thank you. >> well, there's a ruling by florida is supreme court. it's now presenting women with a very stark choice. shall we say? >> some may have to drive 17 hours to seek abortion-related services. next, how one clinic all the way in illinois is trying the help them get your viewing glasses ready and experience so rare, it won't happen again for another two decades in cnn for live

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care clinic in that midwestern state is bracing for an uptick and out of state date patients in the coming weeks, drawing it out with a personal perspective, executive administrator of alamo women's clinic at illinois, andrea diego's. thank you so much for joining us right now. and drea, before the why why is illinois pairing for what's happening in florida? why are you and what do you preparing to do? >> showing >> thanks for having me. so we've seen since dobbs patients from every surrounding band state make the journey of great distances for care. and because illinois is this island of access to abortion care, i have no doubt that floridians will be faced to do the same thing >> you've been helping women from other states where abortion has been banned or restricted. let's be taking a toll on them personally to travel to this island of

access, as you describe it? what are they telling you >> absolutely. >> i think more than >> anything, when patients make it to our doorstep, they're exhausted. they're exhausted from their travel. they've left work and just gotten on the road and started driving and sleep a few hours before are there are in the morning. i've had patients tell me they've driven all night and slept in the parking lot and waited for us to open in the morning so the journey is never cease to amaze me what patients are overcoming to make it to our doorsteps. so a pure exhaustion i think is number one one and then by the end of the day when after they've had services, it more than anything, it's relief relief that they made it relief that somebody took care of them, that they got the services they needed and they can return safely home.

>> there's the emotional and physical toll and aspects of this and the journey, but there's also the financial toll how are these women able to pay for their health care plus the cost of travel, knowing that increasingly so there is an economic disparity of access absolutely. these bands just affect women of color, women who are of lower socioeconomic statuses. and the majority of our patients, i would say 75 to 80% of our patients received some i'm sort of funding whether it be from a national fund or state specific to their home-state. we connect with multiple organizations to help make cost less burdensome really truly telling when i think about the map we were showing, the idea of 17 hours drive and island of

access and illinois and how >> other states are preparing to except the influx of people who most assuredly, will come and drag i ego's. thank you so much for joining >> thank you. thank you for having me well up next, lsu star, angel reese calling out the hate she has gotten this past year from racism to threats >> against her own life. has the price of fame in this social media era, we're in, become way too toxic former wnba star and coach nancy lieberman is here to discuss next >> death threats. i've been sexualized. i've been threatened, not been so many things, and i'm still strong every single time >> king charles tomorrow at on cnn. >> what's the greatest? mentioned them all time. do hands-free sketcher slip ends. you just slip in and they're on. it's like they have an invisible built-in shoe horn. so your foot slides into place without bending down or touching your shoes, then the healing you'll pillow

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never seen people wish bad things on someone as much as her. >> the media yeol, how they like to twist and color but a villain and all of that, yeah, i don't know angel bro and i'm just happy that i get to play with her >> the hague has become such an epidemic that even the surgeon general of the united states met with the nc, that belay mental health advisory group to talk about the effects of social media. a young people's mental health, lots of talk about with nancy lieberman, she's the head coach of team power and the big three league. >> the >> first woman had coach of a men's professional team in any sport. it olympian, a two-time basketball hall of famer, a player coach, otherwise known as lady magic, at hall-of-famer to boot nancy, so nice to see you, how you doing i am wonderful. so great to see you again. >> i'm glad that you're here, although i have got to wonder what you have thought seeing the evolution of the game in the sense of the role that media and social media is playing on. and what's happening, what you've heard,

what angel reese had to say about being a human? in the toll it's taken on her. what would you say to her? >> and this moment >> by what's the game and i watched her reaction in the press conference. and as somebody who's in the sisterhood of the sport of all sports, to see this young lady that despondent at the press conference, nothing because it helps you played by the way, just 17 points, 20 rebounds, and she is a wizard and a star >> but for help >> people have treated her shame on you. you know, muhammad ali, mike, my friend, my hero told me a long time ago that reddish religion in the world is love and kindness show this woman some loving kindness and don't go after her because your keyboard wizard and you hide >> if if you >> got to say something that somebody stand up, be seen, because all you're gonna do is people want to say you're a racist, you're wrong and the media has gotten desensitize

and how they talk about us as players, as coaches, as women. and it's unacceptable. and honestly it's i'm so glad you've mentioned mom and i leave because he sometimes will point to him and say, you know, the smack talk is part of it, you know, his >> poetic lyricism when he did it was, it's just, this is just the evolution of that this feels and is distinct from what that was. and i'm so glad you've mentioned how it's been directed that women in particular, why do you think it's become so increasingly talks as it relates to women in particular >> let's let's be realistic. every store that you've known in history, bob take sports every time they get to the top, somebody has now tried to cut you down and put you in your place. so, you know, angel reese get to a certain place, wins the national championship. she's beautiful, she has an opinion >> and now everybody wants >> to cut her down and attack her. >> she'd never done anything

wrong. it's just 21 years old. she used to be living lives. she should be happy she's got a great program at lsu. she's got great mentors and mulkey and check >> and if i were >> around her arm around her as a friend and say don't listen sometimes you just have to have your and not listen to people those are the people who have never accomplished anything in life and so, so easy for them to be critics of people who have achieved. and there's jealousy. israel >> i always say, i don't take criticism people i would not seek advice from but i'm grown compared to a 21 year-old and thinking about what she enduring as a college student. but this, is a different sport and the way, and then college players now are able to have endorsements, are able to have brand deals. does that make a difference to you at all in terms of the increasingly expansive public profile that they have? for themselves is it

does it some way change how they ought to be treated >> no, i don't think he changes. >> it's just this is the new day and age. this is it. you know, i mean, as warren buffett, how much money did he make in the 60s and 70s and how much money does he made in 2024 >> i mean, >> this is called growth. there's a look i played for free on the olympic team. i played for free when we went to back-to-back championships, national championships at old dominion university. >> it's okay >> we have to celebrate today the athletes, the business people, the women of people of success, even men we shouldn't tolerate them. we should applaud them and celebrate them, that they have more than we did >> and you >> should just organically be happy for them and i'm thrilled for this generation and what they're doing. they're creating history. >> we haven't the jackie robinson >> and a lot of people play sports some people just changed sports and make history

>> history has i don't want you i'm sorry. nancy finished a point. >> know what's happening right here in front of >> i was going to say i'm that brady notion, just thinking about the ratings. i mean, how many people are watching this is transformative as well. >> i >> learned that the game between lsu and i will last night more than 12 million people watched the game. that's even more than last year's nba finals, by the way. and these college players, they're thrown into this, this level of fame right now is the sport ready for this level of attention? is it ready for this evolution of the fan viewership two are we ever ready? are we ever ready for greatness? know it just happens upon us. the caitlin clark's of the world on the page backers, the reese's, there's a lot of players who are generational during the wnba in asia wilson, people like that. and we're champions i admire dawn staley

and, you know, i also admire people who respect women and the way you change the landscape is you do what icecube did. you make a substantial offered to a woman and you say, we appreciate you. we want you >> and that's not to say that she can't play in the wnba i'm w and an mba family. >> but it's certainly >> pushes you to be better and raise the stakes players really have a lot of the they have a lot of the power right now, right? no, the power you don't know, you have and they know they have it right now. and why shouldn't they this is business. just like everybody else. everybody has a negotiating point so i think it's great for kaitlan to get that offer which she take it because there's been some pushback on that offer. it's a substantial one. there were some pushback i talked to carry champion last week and she seem to have the impression that look, this is she doesn't need

to play with men to prove her worth. is that how you see it >> well, as somebody who needed to play against menn to know her worth. and i love carried by the way but i didn't have a league in my prime. so i had to play for pat riley and the los angeles lakers. and suddenly i had to play for the jazz. and frankly in their summer league, i had to play two years in the united states basketball league, which is the equivalent of the nba g league. trust me, i know what it's like to get hit on a screen via 280 pounds the or kick up a charge on karl malone. >> it doesn't feel good. it's not optimal, but it is doable because think about it. >> they might be bigger, stronger, faster, >> and jump higher >> but you don't know our heart. you don't know our desire. there's eq and iq and she can pass the hell out of basketball. so wherever she chooses to play, lsu went to the big three >> then she >> could also play in the wnba.

it's for indiana coupa saying we want you to play both. it's it's eight games in the w. >> but when enhance her >> profile should be the only other woman to play an immensely round that changed my life to be quite honest financially attains my life. >> it took me >> from being a great player and women's basketball to being a leak in the opportunity that i've had to play against menn know well, let's say canine clark, it sounds like nancy lieberman wants to be your coach for the big three. i'm going to put a plug-in. i kinda wanted to say it now, i just talking to you. nancy is always so great to hear your perspective. it's a unique one and i'm so glad you came. thank you. >> thank you for being a great champion. a us. appreciate you >> thank you all so much for watching our covers continues we hear nothing. >> a space shuttle accident. it's usually not one thing. it's a series of events

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