into it at the college level, at the high school level, whatever it might be the women's game has improved in leaps and bounds in just a couple of generations, not only in the quality of play, but obviously in the interest that, uh, generates. now nationwide. >> yeah, i mean, we've seen we've seen this the two stars here, just angel reese, caitlin clark, all these other really impressive naibe. i mean, i was even looking at the ticket prices today and i will note there are fewer seats in the women's final four, but they're tickets are actually more expensive than the guys. it's just, it's remarkable. bob costas is always, it is great thing yeah thank you, caitlin, i'm congratulations to the tide. >> let's i don't know. you just kinda had a little bit of a we'll see what the prediction looks like for saturday for field will carefully things like i was four, i was being since i was i. was being sincere by the way, south carolina shouldn't overlook them. 36 and under dawn staley going for the third national title with her as the coach

they cost us as always, thanks for joining us. we'll continue to watch that and thank you all for joining me. tonight's in a news night with abby. phillip starts right now >> a gag order grows and donald trump drops 175 million. that's tonight on newsletter good evening. >> i'm abby phillip in new york and tonight too late, breaking legal developments, dealing directly with the former president of the united states. one family is off-limits. the judge overseeing donald trump's hush money trial just expanded a gag order forbidding the defendant and former president from attacking his own family and that of the district attorney's, a gag order was already issued last week, but it only outlawed trump's tirades directed at witnesses

prosecutors, jurors, and court staff. it intentionally left out judge merchan, the judges family, the da alvin bragg, and also bragg's family as well now, those limits are dramatically bigger. why? well, after this easter weekend, that was colored by trump's rage filled truth, social failings at well, mostly everyone, including the judges family also tonight, donald trump buys time to appeal a record shattering civil fraud judgment by posting a record breaking bond. the former president finally found underwriters to say that he is good for $175 million. now that pauses financial ruin by pausing the state attorney generals ability to move against the trump empire. at least until september that's when an appeals court will set the timetable to hear trump's appeal of that nearly half 1 billion judgement in the civil fraud case. joining us now to

discuss this temidayo aganga-williams, former senior let's to get of council for the january 6 committee also with us adam, the former assistant new york attorney general, atom. was this the right move by, judge moore? can i think it's understandable, judge marchand is a very serious judge and he wants to have a trial that's a serious trial and not a circus, not going after witnesses or family in a way that can interfere with the trial >> so temidayo, this is what judge merchant rights. he says. it is no longer just a mere possibility or a reasonable likelihood that there exists a threat to the integrity of the judicial proceedings the threat is very real admonitions are not enough nor is reliance on self restraint. it seems to go directly at the trump lawyers argument that this was sort of your pre gagging trump before he's ever had to do anything. well, he did something this weekend and the judges sorts of suggesting that there would need to be some kind of punishment. >> yeah. i think he's preparing for what's coming down the

road. i think it's porn to zoom out and just realize that what the former president is doing here is preposterous. and i was a former prosecutor and he's out on pretrial release, meaning otherwise he would be detained. but he's out if he abides by the law and the conditions are both the new york court and the dc court and florida court. he has three criminal cases. if this were any other defendant, i think frankly the prosecutors are moving for remand, which means putting him into custody while he will be going to rikers instead of going to florida. so i think what we're getting down the road up is that these judges going to hold him accountable because we all know he's going to cross the line. but the question question becomes, what is the red line? what is the final time where trump will be held to account here? i think the next step you'll probably see you're going to be fines. but after that, you talked about the possibility of remal and i think that's a hard idea, but to think about former president in custody. but if you can't abide by the law that's what happens to every other defendant. >> what are the repercussions available? temidayo makes a really important point here.

>> trump >> complains constantly that he is being treated differently and he is because he's being allowed to do things that no other defendant would be allowed to do if you're the judge what does? he do next? >> i think it's really difficult ordinarily a normal defendant, you'd send them to rikers very quickly. he had figured out in rikers what the right way to behave before a trial is. but president trump is not every other defendant. it would be very practically difficult for the staff of rikers to have trump there i think it's very difficult on the other hand, he does speak money. he is interested in money and he is worried or scared of fines. and so there could be a fine that's commensurate with his wealth, that could put them into place. >> yet again, more money that trump will have to come up to come up with the legal system is really struggling here to deal with both something you might have extraordinary wealth and someone have extraordinary power who has this crazy megaphone that he uses in really irresponsible ways this weekend, he said where men and

women prosecuting him are evil, sick, and deranged, corrupt, and crooked i mean what, what this rhetoric does, not just to the legal system, but to the country. i mean, what do you think? >> i think we know that his words have power. january 6 was something that he put into motion attacking the capitals, what he put into motion. so like my angeles says, right, someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time. and i think that's what chord courts have to do with trump. they have to believe him when he says these things he's not acting. he may act are times frankly a bit deranged, but i think he knows what he's doing. he knows how to call the supporters. he did it with january 6, i think that's what he's doing now. that's why he's highlighting. court staff members that's why he's doing all these tweets. it's not because he's acting without thought. i think it's because he's acting very precisely. and i think we have the heat that warning now because there will be violence. he's caused violence before he's not worried about causing future violence. so the courts do have i think a big responsibility

and yes, it is difficult to talk about remand or talk about some increased a restriction on his liberty but if you don't do that, you're going to have someone dad, you're going to have someone hurt judges, family members have been assassinated before, and that may seem hyperbolic. now. but i think we don't talk about that way, right now. it's going to be too late in the future. >> your thoughts on that? >> perhaps i'm more confident in the money angle, but i do think that more fines can be effective here >> yeah. because that is what the language that trump speaks essentially language that trump's weeks, there's the hush money case he's he's gonna be in trial in a couple of weeks. there. there's a potential witness list that includes hope hicks, michael cohen, stormy daniels. what do you think we could learn from these individuals? these are people and michael cohen and hope hicks who know donald trump extremely well. i, stormy daniels, who is at the heart of this case? in general what

could we learn? >> i think that we're going to learn a lot about what was happening during the last election season when these payments were being made, why these payments were being made, what the motive was, what the intent was. and i think that worrying learn a lot about how the payments, the mechanics of how the payments were made how donald trump directed those payments. >> yeah, there's a lot coming up down the pike every single day there's something new and a lot of times it's incited by trump himself, a temidayo, and adam. thank you both very much. at lax just moment at the moment that trump was in the need of some financial infusion. his social media companies, initial public offering, ipo, helped add some $7.5 to his net worth, at least on paper that is now as many people predicted, it was all short-lived. now we have the numbers, new filings shows that that company, trump media, may not be much of a company at all. it lost 58 million in 2023

and brought in just $4.1 million for the year. now, that is astonishing. and wall street apparently agreed the stock plunged more than 20% in trading today so the question is, how on earth can accompany that makes less than some social media influencers. b. valued at 8 billion for that, i want to bring in cnn contributor and host of on and pivot podcast, kara swisher, qarrah he makes less than your podcast. yeah. if you use >> so where's your $8 billion or money? >> i know i make more money and we can use money, we make money. i don't know what to say it's not a business, it's not an ongoing soon as it was noted today and their filings because they they they spend a lot more money than they make. they don't make much money. they're losing subscribers i mean, it's just not a business, it's it's a it's a billboard of some sort, i guess a billboard for him, but it's a very expensive one, very expensive while trump owns 57%

of the company's shares, which is a huge majority and it's made him on paper a very rich man, even richer than he was before. >> but what >> about some of the other people behind this? i mean, it's a hodgepodge of potentially some shady characters and regular trump fans even some republican donors does that explain why we are at this point of accompany that is public now valued at this much that makes no money well things are valued at what people will pay for it. so people are paying for the stock to own it for whatever's various and sundry and i mean, sundry reasons for owning it. they may want to support them. they may want to have influence with them. there's a very small floats so you can make it go up and down quite a bit. but there's also a lot of shortness arrayed against this, which would we're putting on the squeeze here that's what happened to they and it didn't even need a squeezed because the results are so ridiculously >> it's just, it's just >> a, it's just comedy here. it's comedy is not a company

>> and so i >> think that's what's going to happen and continue to happen. it may go up and down like gamestop did it it's sort of dumb money, a dumb money or money looking to hello, once even though it's worth that and it's certainly is. i think it's 5 billion now or something like that. >> i mean, he'd >> be better off paying $8 to elon musk for twitter blue at this point. but if he can sell it or get out it but it will be investigated pretty quickly if he's doing place like that because it looks like a yeah, i actually wondered i wondered about that because i mean look, and we can call it whatever you want to call it a scam, not a real company, but at what point does it go from just being a bad investment or questionable investment is something more? nefarious. i mean, is there a risk here >> well, there'll be shareholders, that'll sue and say i can't believe this didn't make money, although you can look at his record of its other businesses like this and have an idea of it. but people will be able to sue. i'm sure the fcc is looking at it carefully. there's all kinds of lawsuits among and between the founders. that's still i

think going on and there's all questions about how it was created and continues to be. and so this is going to be his next court case. this is my feeling. this is where this is going, but at the very heart of it, it's not a business it's not it's just not a business. it's simply not a business they can call it whatever they like, but they're spending enormous amounts of money for hardly any revenue. and i guess people would direct their money, their advertising there, i guess maybe some trump's supporting institutions would be pointless. it's not real advertising but we change what it's worth. >> it's not really reaching any anyone. >> but >> no, no, but that's okay. >> i guess. >> i mean, it's also puzzling about this. is that the trump mode of operating for most of his life is through private companies i am confused. why would it? he knowingly probably what the financials are even bother to take this public

because it was gonna be a spec and it had a limited time before they had to do it. they they they they combine it with a spec because it was running out of money because it would have closed down it just what it needed some cash and i think i got 300 million, which she might as well just burn in an fireplace at this point because it'll run through that money pretty quickly given how much money they're losing. there's no prospects for making money here except as a way to prop up donald trump. it just, it's just not a business by the way, social media is not easy elon musk has his trying very hard and he's not he's not doing great. >> read. it, just went public. it has $800 in revenue and it's still is a dozen isn't profitable. >> it's a >> difficult business in the first place, but there's a big difference between 4000000800000000 which is what read it hasn't read it as growing announce of subscribers, i think seven million daily a day. and trump's social has has no growth, has negative growth. they're losing subscribers and they didn't have many to start with. it's just not i don't know what to say. it's just if

your child had a lemonade stand, it would make more money than this. but if people are willing to pay for it this is what people pay for. its inexplicable >> actually, i'm looking forward to my child having her $4,000,000 lemonade stand i'm going to put that before. i want to put that into the future, kara swisher author a burn book, a lot out right now. thank you very much. care >> thanks >> up next florida supreme court will let a six-week abortion ban become law, but voters can weigh in on the issue in november, we'll speak with the person who's organizing that campaign that brought full abortion to florida's ballot. plus new reports that trump's allies will use a second term to push back against racism, anti white racism i'll explain and the biden administration pressing israel to limit civilian civilian casualties with play asked to go into rafah. but will israel listen?

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constitution. that ballot initiative was spearheaded by floridians protecting freedom, a coalition of pro-abortion groups in florida and its campaign director, loren bronzeville is joining me now lauren, what do you make of these two decisions? one, allowing this proposed amendment to be on the ballot, but the other one letting a six-week ban to go into effect in 30 days basically, until the voters speak we anticipated that are initiative would be rolled constitutional because are lawyers put a lot of work into making sure >> that our language held up to what the courts were asking for, what we did not anticipate was that we would also see the ruling on the 15-week abortion ban today. and it really speaks to just how important this initiative is for floridians. we cannot keep a six-week ban on the book. floridians have the choice in november to end the six-week abortion ban in to remove politicians from their private medical decisions.

>> florida is one of the right now, one of the only states in the southeast with more abortion access so give us a sense of what that band will do. how will that change reproductive access in florida >> this will be the largest public health crisis that will be created after the overturn of roe v. wade. >> we are the third >> most populous state in the nation, and we are surrounded almost entirely by water where we aren't surrounded by water, we're surrounded by bands are states that already have abortion bans in effect. so traveling out of state will be the only option for many women, but they'll have to travel an incredibly far away. we're talking about states like new york and illinois, just to access safe and legal care this amendment that is gonna be on the ballot would allow abortion until what's considered the point of viability of state house speaker paul renner, he's a republican. he said this, this amendment goes far, far beyond what most floridians where most floridians would land on this issue. he's saying

that and the truth is that you'll need 60% of voters to get that amendment approved and into the state constitution. how confident are you that there is that much support? for allowing abortion up until the point of viability and whatever that point, i mean, can you let us know i mean, what would that point be in terms of weeks for people who want to understand? >> yeah viability is determination that's made with the doctor. it's a medical term. it's not an arbitrary term like politicians are utilizing for things like passing as abortion ban. there's no medical basis for that. that's based entirely on wayward political ideology. this initiative would simply allow providers to be the best counselors of their patients and it really removes politicians from medical decisions, which is a major concern for us. we're seeing the florida politicians can't be trusted on this issue. it's why they passed a six-week abortion ban. it's why they passed a 15-week band with no exemptions for rape or incest,

they need to be removed from these private medical decisions. >> i'm curious about what you're hearing from voters down there especially any republicans about the six-week banned because when it was passed, i mean, i remember the signing was kind of a private affair by the governor florida is a diverse it's a state that has a lot of different kinds of people in it. what are you hearing? is there backlash that is not being picked up by the national media, by the national narrative the main backlash that we're seeing right now is to the implementation of a six-week abortion ban that's wildly unpopular policy. people in florida are excited to know that they're going to have a chance to vote on this november and it's important to note that 35% of our signers for this initiative where republicans or independents. we had an amicus brief filed by former republican lawmakers. this isn't a cut and dry partisan issue. it's health and people are tired of seeing politicians involved in their health care at all. they just want to go to their doctor's office in. a memo, the biden

campaign suggested that the sikh six-week barely add this amendment being on the ballot could make florida estate >> that is in play has been drifting away from democrats in recent years. do you agree with that? >> it is. >> and i know that those rep. to see, but it's irrelevant to us. we are in this because we care about candidate elections were in this because there were 84,000 patients that politicians have failed. we have to secure access to abortion in the state of florida. that's not based in candidate work. that's based in the need to make sure that florida brigands directly have the decision in their hands. they can vote for whichever candidate they want to. the polls, but they need to know that they can stop the six-week abortion ban and that they can return sensible policy to the state of florida by removing all politicians from their private medical decisions >> all right. lauren burnsville. thank you very much for all that. >> thank you >> and joining us now are cnn political commentators, s. e. cupp and jamal simmons as well

jamal democrats did pretty well in the midterms driven by a lot of anger and just motivation from the dobbs decision. do you agree with the biden campaign's assessment that suddenly like that it puts florida and play. >> first of all, i think there's a tragedy for the women of florida. and so we all have to figure out what's going to be the right thing to help them manage their health care but secondly, the politics of it. it's absolutely true that this is going to give democrat something to talk about the question and state of florida, if we were being totally frank about this, is that democrats of men getting their butts kicked in florida for the last few cycles, republicans have been investing money in the state. they've got infrastructure in the state. so it's not just about the big issue on the table, but it's also going to it'd be whether or not there is even an infrastructure for democrats to grab hold two and irwin. now this gives democrats a much stronger case to make. rick scott also is going to have to defend this. he's got some social security problems in addition to the abortion question. so democrats has an issue to run on, but it's gonna

be more than just the issues they've really got to have a structure that makes sense. >> is this a mistake on republicans products? yeah, so much of the abortion issue has been like did they bite off more than they could chew? >> well, if you take the emotion out of this issue and it's an emotional issue. i get it. i'm pro-life just means i won't go and get an abortion, but it's an emotional issue for both sides. take that out. it is an issue of math and the math is not there for this issue. if you talk to most americans there in the middle, they want legal abortion with some restrictions. and most americans think that a six-week ban is too extreme in states, red states like kansas and ohio, were they tried these effective bands, they were rejected by red-state voters in states where trump won. so try this at your peril, especially at a very fraught time, an election year when there's a lot on the line and biden and trump are pretty much running neck and neck. this seems very, very risky one of the interesting factors here is desantis of it all

>> he, he did the six-week >> ban, but then he stopped talking about it for a when he was running for president. now this is going to be this is going to be associated with desantis probably for the rest of his political career? >> absolutely. listen, this is going to be they're gonna, be right it gives us in florida. but also this is a national campaign to think about campaigns. now is, it's not just about state-by-state politics the way it used to be ten or 20 years ago, these things happen on a national scale, and they're gonna be defending it but happened in alabama and the state supreme court decision is going to matter in michigan and wisconsin in georgia. and all these other states. so what's happened in florida was happening in alabama. all these restrictions on these questions, ivf, women's right to abortion, people who are having miscarriages being pursued by prosecutors and ohio rape victims who are ten years old, not being able to get their health care. all those things will matter two women and the men who care about them all over this country.

>> and to that point, it'll be interesting to see what trump does. does trump say? well, that was my idea. does he take credit for this or does he distanced himself as he has in the past from the six-week ban or maybe a little bit of both. a lot of mixed messages with trump's sometimes, but everyone there's some new reported that i want to discuss snacks if president trump is elected in november, he will be a champion of the fight against anti white racism. that is according to a new report from axios that says the trump allies are plotting anti-racism protections for white people. it's an issue that trump has not shied away from on the campaign trail. listen we will terminate every diversity equity and inclusion programs across the entire federal >> now in the wake of last summer supreme court decision that gutted affirmative action for college admissions a cbs news poll from last fall found that 58% of trump's supporters feel region so minorities are favored more than white americans, while 67% of biden

supporters say whites are more favored. asieh in jamal are still here with us you know, what's interesting, i think about that question? going all the way back to 2016 when trump was running. if you looked at the cross tabs, the voters who talked about whites being the victims of racism. that was the tell that they were trump supporters right now here we are in 2024 it makes perfect sense that this would be a big part of his reelection bid. >> and donald trump has decided he's not playing for the broad middle of the broad swath of the american public is going after are pretty small slice and hidden. you sneeze to get every single person who agrees with him all the way down that ladder and then get them to turn out in the polls. that's the only math that he has there's no way he competes with everybody else. listen, we know the numbers, don't actually map out, right? when it comes to what's happening to blacks and whites and latinos in the country. we know that people of color still need help to get ahead we know that

we've made a lot of progress and helping people of color get ahead. but the reason we've made progress is because we've been trying when we stopped trying to make progress, we're going to start making it. so we've got to make sure that we are paying attention to getting more people in the game because we pulled back the lins. the question is, what kind of country do we want? we want a country where everybody gets to participate. what do we want when we're only a few people get to have other benefits as he can give me a reality check on this because sometimes this feels like when ron desantis was first running for president, all the anti woke stuff and all the consultants were saying, oh, this is the new thing and then he stopped talking about it because real americans actually did not care i wonder, i mean, do you think that this anti-d i push is just some kind of elite social media conversation that the campaign hey, miss getting caught up. >> yeah. ron desantis making anti-woke is entire personality did not work. it wasn't a platform, it wasn't enough of a platform. this is a big part of donald trump's voting base, and this is a big part of his message reaching out to

aggrieved white voters who feel like their lives have gotten worse because other people's lives have been getting better. on the one hand, this idea is deeply disturbing and the reason why we got minority protections in the first place because of this idea that white people needed to be protected but on the other, the reality check i think is the good news is i don't think he's going to do any of this, right? he floated. so many dumb ideas that got his base animated and excited and did nothing with them because he's not disciplined. he doesn't care about policy. there would be a lot that would have to go into this effort. he'd have to get a lot of stephen hillary is working hard working on it, but i'm not all that. i'm not all that concerned that this is a serious policy suggestion as much as is a get-out-the-vote. >> let me give you one example where it could matter because it mattered when he was president the last time right? colin powell was our first african american chair of the

joint chiefs of staff we didn't have another one for decades, right? when donald trump was in office, are 41 senior military officers could be chosen from to be in the joint to joint chiefs chair. there are only two african-americans and down trump was in office today. there were five right in the biden administration that's not an accident. that happens because the people who are trying to figure out who we can find, let's find the people who are qualified regardless of race and gender. and let's try to bring them up and we can make this important they found people who were different when donald trump was in office. he didn't, he wasn't looking for them he wants to say, look at all the diversity. i haven't cabinet. he does it to use them, right? because he's a user >> this is all happening at the same time that president biden is trying to tackle the challenges that he has with photos of color. i mean, this focus of trump's on dei it almost seems maybe like handing biden a bit of a gift here to

make the contrast pretty real >> it does make the contracts very real. i mean, i think voters want to know what you're gonna do and they're looking for joe biden to be able to talk about how he's going to help make the country a place where we can operative spay the question. he's going to have to get to donald trump for the president is how does he make this real, not just for the two, three, or four, or five general, right. who and admirals. and we're going to make it to the inner circle. but what does he do for the people who have been feeling they've been left out, not just in the last four years, but for the lab as 40 years, those are the people that donald trump is talking to he's trying to go after the people who said the system hasn't been working for you. and i can try to make it work and joe biden's got to say, i've got a plan, it's going to make it work for you too. >> you know what the other thing is? i mean, look, experts studies for years have pointed out white women have actually benefited from affirmative action, from diversity initiatives the biden administration need only point

out that when you talk about diversity in corporate america and higher education, you were also talking about women yes. white women. >> there >> enough >> arguments you could make about affirmative action in some of these policies. there, there are decent arguments to make around policy and who this is helping and who this is hurting. the problem is donald trump is going after women and minorities with this anti reproductive rights. and now day dei and anti-woke to campaign just built for white guys, older white guys. and that is terrible election strategy. it's also deeply cynical and pretty district at a time when he is also struggling with suburban educated voters i mean, i wonder jamal, i'm sorry, yeah, i can a friend of mine a while back, set them something to me that was very important we think about blue collar workers and we think about the knee of the white guy at the lunch counter with lunch pail order

and a cup of coffee, right? that's the person we're talking to. democrats is not the person who's drinking the cup of coffee. it's the woman who might be serving him the cup of coffee, right? there are a lot of other workers in the economy that we're talking to and we're not all talking to the same people. and democrats had to be sure they're focused on the voters where i get a bill for them and not ones that donald trump has in his pocket. >> yeah, there is a risk. just real quick. i mean i asked earlier whether this was a gift to joe biden, but it could also be a sideshow. because as you pointed out, i mean, the woman pouring the coffee, she wants to know when her wages are going up, right? she doesn't care about the dei right now, not in this not that doesn't cut for biden, right? i mean, biden's guy economic policy issues, immigration issues. he's got some issues that don't help him. and yes. i mean, there's a lot that goes into identifying these voters that are good able, people that feel like they've been ignored by both parties. it's a weird amalgam and venn diagram of

things that don't always cut for democrats for republicans, but it cuts down middle and you've got to find a way to capture these people without sending them running or telling them, basically stay home. >> well, in a complete circle that women also cares about having reproductive freedom. >> exactly right. >> all right, guys, as he kept chemali, thank you both very much. next, israel is insisting that they must enter rafah as the they fight in fight hamas. but will the white house be able to convince netanyahu otherwise, i'll just discuss that with my experts next >> the greatest stage the joke about >> like john regrow tbs take a pea-sized amount, apply it like a lotion pits under boob, five-fold, about cracks, feet. this water-based cream. i'm

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house officials are confirming that >> they've pressed, they're israeli counterparts for alternatives to a major military operation in rafah, the idf insisting that they must enter that city in order to route hamas. but the administration has born that israel's military needs to limit civilian casualties. a concern that is even greater after israel ended its 14 day siege on gaza's largest hospital today at least 300 bodies have been recovered. one eyewitness telling cnn that the scene resembled a horror movie and further worries about a widening war after a deadly airstrike in damascus, iran says it was near and iranian embassy and in syria and that multiple irgc officials were killed in that attack and israeli military spokesman declined to comment, joining me now is bloomberg editor and foreign policy specialist bobby ghosh on former new york times jerusalem bureau chief jodi rudoren rudoren. she's editor

in chief of the forward. now, these images from the hospital in damascus are inflaming the arab world. but really at this point, it's far beyond that it hasn't actually put any pressure on israel, just the reaction that all of this is bringing well, there is pressure, but, but bibi netanyahu, the prime minister of israel, has consistently said, since 7 october, that is a little >> act on what he perceives to be israel's best interests against, which also tends to, in his mind coincide with his own political best interests. he's, proven himself immune to pressure. he despite repeated, as you said at the top of your program, this has become a kind of where we hear from the white house and from officials in washington that they are putting their trying to put more pressure on the israelis

for about new york minute, we get a sense that the israelis are taking that on board. and then netanyahu makes a decision that takes the white house completely by surprise and risks escalating the situation. what we saw happen in damascus today is an example of that. so yeah, netanyahu is calling in the shots according to his calendar, no matter how much the biden administration, the president himself, no matter how much pressure they try to bring upon him, no matter what the international community is saying netanyahu is marching to the drum in his head and nowhere. >> so what is dirty? the calculus here for netanyahu in israel yesterday thousands of people there on the streets. they have tents out there is a groundswell of anger there about the hostages, about how the war is carrying out is being carried out, about the sense that maybe israelis. don't feel safer even after all of this what's the endgame

for netanyahu >> well, i mean, probably is right then as now is not yielding to pressure and that he has his own political interests at heart. but this is the first time since october 7 that we've seen this kind of groundswell and that it has been derived bucketed at netanyahu as opposed to purely a call for bringing the hostages home. and so they're they've said they're gonna be out there for four days. they're sleeping outside. it's raining there. and i think what i mean, i think this may be a turning point. you don't want to get to predictive but while most israelis do strongly support the war and the despite the level of devastation that it has rotten gaza, they don't support and ten yeah, i mean, poll after poll after poll shows that he would barely get 17 seats if there were another election today, that his party would would not be able to make you think that lebanon coalition was over paste placed by somebody who is not more

moderate? >> well, he >> would likely be replaced by someone who's basic framework for gaza and for the palestinian question feels familiar, but the coalition that they would put together would likely be very different. it would not include the right-wing nationalist it's that are in this government. and there's another big divide over how the orthodox are integrated into society. and i think they would likely have a different position there and not include the orthodox party. so it wouldn't look exactly the same, but it's not like they're going to put down their weapons the next day if there's an election yeah. >> i think i think jodie is exactly right. no matter who is empowered, that is a common consensus around what needs to be done about hamas. and it is very close to netanyahu's own position on the matter of what needs to be done in gaza, how the palestinians are to be dealt with? there's not a lot of daylight between netanyahu and some of his opponents. so he may go and mind you, his departure would be a major moment in israeli politics.

this is a man who has loomed large over israeli politics. through most of the adult lifetime to the large proportion of the population. so it will be big your longest serving prime minister in israeli history. but i think what you are seeing on the street today and it hasn't really shown up in polls, and it certainly hasn't shown up in response to questions about the war, but you do get a sense of this anger and anguish and a little bit i think beginning to see an exhaustion from the war and from the international reaction to it. so >> all of that, all of this is happening. netanyahu is making some moves, particularly when it comes to the present day. he lawmaker and israel passed a law this afternoon that would add allow them to shut down any foreign media out let's that they deemed to be a national security risks. this is something that is viewed as being targeted right at out jazeera netanyahu today called al-jazeera a terrorist channel the committee to protect journalists, obviously pushing

back on that, saying that this contributes to a climate of self-censorship and hostility toward for the press. a trend that has escalated since the israel gaza war began. there is a bit of a pattern here when leaders feel under threat, they go after the press. i mean, is that what's going on? for sure. i mean, let's remind ourselves that a year before the for almost a year before the october 7 attacks, israel was roiled by protests over netanyahu's moved to undermine the democratic infrastructure of the country. judicial reform, correct? >> this is another >> anti-democratic anti-free speech, anti i freedom of the press move that is shocking to the west and to many israelis. now, why does he want to shut down al jazeera? what is he say that makes it a terrorist network or an inciting network or a threat to national security. they're showing what's going on in gaza which is not available widely on the tv news and a huge part of how

this story is being perceived around the world when you see the images pretty raw, unfiltered. >> yeah, and especially in the in the arab world and i would add that apart from being thoroughly undemocratic, there's also from the point of view of israel's own interests in the arab world. this is counterproductive. >> how >> jazeera is one of the future arab channels where israeli spokesmen actually go on their hair and try to explain israel's position. other our channel don't even make that much effort. so if israel wants, its case to be made in the arab world, and remember israel now how has many more allies in the arab balances, if not in the street than it did thanks to the abraham accords if israel wants its point of view to be heard, al-jazeera is probably it's best bet in the arab world so shutting al-jazeera down demonizing al-jazeera like this? >> mixed all sides. you can be calling an channel or this is a terrorist gentle. meanwhile, your spokesman is going on that

channel and talking to their anchors and presenting your point of view. if it's a terrorist channel, why are you even engaging with, five other yeah, that's a good point. we have to leave it there. bobbi gauche and judi rudoren. thank you both very much for the interesting conversation. and just moments ago, a rivalry game for the ages just wrapped up will tell you all you need to know about caitlin clark's hawkeyes an angel reese is tigers facing off for a spot in the final four >> get your viewing glasses ready and experience so rare, it won't happen again for two decades. joint cnn for live coverage around the country of the spectacle in the skies eclipse across america live next monday at one on cnn or streaming on max. >> did you know there's no t in skechers >> what does the v is always been scheduled these sketches slippery tethys get to slip bands robin is always in

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everybody was talking about comparing it to last year's national championship game. and that's exactly what this felt like. a national championship game with the pace with the drama, with the fact that lsu's angel reese put a crown on the bench while caitlin clark was warming up when caitlin clark when hated three, how she would just stare at angel reason the eyes. i mean, i had so much drama and i got to tell you, caitlin clark, she hit a record and cwa all-time record for three pointers in this game hit nine at three-pointers and i have never seen a rena erupt the way it does when caitlin clark kids at three pointer, so it was just an incredible incredible game. of course, they've got to cut down those nuts and they're headed for cleveland. and i think really the coolest thing to see out of all of this, abby, i know you kids yourself was the fact that there were just so many young girls and boys waiting, pleading, screaming. caitlin clark's named just trying to get her autograph at the end of this game and she of course, signed as many as she could. it just

shows you what impact that one player. and really the others in this one. women's basketball, have really brought to this game the fact that so many people admire all of these amazing players and changing women's basketball for the better yeah luck. >> nobody can question caitlin clark at this point. okay. the conversation is over. brynn group, jin grass. thank you so much for that and thank you all so much for watching news night. laura coates live starts next >> we it appears that despite my sinister efforts employees are still managing their own hr and payroll why would you think nir humans deserve to do their own payroll? because their livelihoods depend on it, because they have bills to bay. >> hear me now >> return the world of hr and payroll two, its rightful place of chaos well, face a tsunami

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