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the next big challenge probably is friday. this big netflix movie it's many people people will remember the interview is going to remind everyone of that. it's going to open up a new audience and it's not just the associations with epstein you're going to see a lot of very realistic behind the scenes footage as well, showing how frankly out of touch prince andrew was unempathetic towards that genes victims, and these are the values that william and charles has been trying to move away from. so i think that's going to blow up again. it's gonna be a problem. you probably going to see a lot of it on social media. and we're not going to hear much from this lot about it. i don't think but it's not working royal. yeah. max foster. thanks very much. that's it for us. the news continues to source, but kitten collins starts now seeing them on state from the source tonight, a slew
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>> of breaking news on the trump legal front, the judge overseeing his first criminal trial has just expanded his gag order. and it now includes a ban on attacking the judges family after trump went after the judge's daughter. also the former president, just posted that $175 million bond, managing to avoid the seizure of his assets and a losing his quote, babies. the big question tonight is how did he do it? and i also knew reporting for you this hour. she was once considered to be one of donald trump's most trusted aides. and now hope hicks is expected to be called as a witness for the prosecution at his first criminal trial. >> i'm kaitlan >> collins, and this is the source the hamer really just dropped after 8:00 here tonight in new york. and you can almost feel the reaction coming out of mar-a-lago donald trump, who has never at a loss for words and salts may affect his match tonight. and judge juan mug shot. that's the judge who is
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overseeing his criminal hush money case. and in a rare evening order tonight, just expanded that gag order on the former president, banning him from speaking about the families of the judge in the manhattan district attorney alvin bragg. of course, still allowed to talk about the judge himself. and bragg, this all comes after trump's relentless attacks on judge mark, sean and his daughter, whom trump by should know identified by name to his millions of followers the judge's ruling tonight that trump's railing on family members of the court staff and i'll prosecutors and i'm quoting the judge now serves no legitimate purpose and merely injects fear. >> i'm >> joined tonight by the former judge of the us district court, southern district of new york, shear a shetland and judge, it's great to have you here tonight, especially with this breaking news. i just wonder first right off the bat, what do you make of the judge's decision here? >> well, he did exactly the right thing. this order had to cover the families of the
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district attorney and the judge because they're not part of this case, they are independent adults. >> they >> didn't sign on to become a judge, and it's wrong to allow them to be attacked. so the judge did what he had to do and he did it. well, i mean, you spent 22 years on the bench. i wonder where this behavior by the former president going after the judge's daughter. i mean, obviously also attacking the judge himself and posting his picture over the weekend, but but where does that kind of behavior rank among what you've seen from a criminal defendant? >> it's pretty rare. it happens in some cases that are high profile that the judge will be attacked. i was attacked. other judges have been attacked with rhetoric, but never my family members. and those people who did those attacks we're not the kind of people who had followers who might be violent and that's what's so troubling here, is that trump's followers, when he insights them, have acted
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this is actually happened. it happened on january 6. it happened with an fbi office. it happened with threats to judge chutkan. so we know that his followers are capable of taking his words and then acting violently. and that didn't happen to make a judge signs on and can expect to be attacked in the press and maybe get some letters the courthouse and the marshals read those letters and offer protection, but i never felt physically threatened. >> it is really remarkable because we've seen the influence that he has on his supporters. and when you read the judges, judge merchan's decision tonight, i mean, he's talking about how he says the average observer must now, after hearing the defendants recent attacks, draw the conclusion that if they become involved in these proceedings, even tangentially, they should worry not only for themselves, but for their loved ones is well and he said it's no longer just a mere possibility or reasonable likelihood that there exists a threat to the integrity of the judicial
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proceedings well, again, that's exactly right because there have been instances where family members of judges have been hurt there was the case in new jersey where the judges son was killed. there was a case in chicago. are the judges mother, i believe it was. and husband were attacked. a judge in a southern district was killed in his own backyard. so there have been attacks on joggers. in fact, years ago, the judge i clerked for was sent poison candy, and his wife, eight one. and luckily, she she lives through it. >> so >> family members can be at risk. there's no question about that, and it's done to instill fear, as you said i. think the immediate question that everyone has knowing donald trump and having covered him for so long, it what happens if he >> violates this new expanded gag order? >> now that's the $64 question as they say, look, the first thing you can do is to give a warning. i think that's been covered. the next thing you can do is give fines, which is what
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judge engoron did. >> but the >> third step and it has to happen sometimes with contempt is actually putting somebody in the cell until they understand and that the behavior is absolutely unacceptable. now, is that what anybody wants to do know because they would only make him a martyr so nobody really wants to put him in a cell, but he has to know, i think that that is a real possibility if he doesn't stop doing what the judges ordered, that he stopped doing. >> yeah. i think the idea of seeing that happen seems so far-fetched to so many people, whether you're a critic of his or a supporter, but if he does violate the gag order and he does get fine and doesn't really make a difference to him. that thread doesn't happen. i mean, wouldn't that be seen as special treatment? would that happen to you or to if we i did that gag order that's exactly right. he's again, being treated differently than any other defendant because any other defendant would be incarcerated
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if the fein did not stop the behavior. but we've got a problem here. this is a former president united states is a candidate for president in united states, who has his rallies and i'm on the campaign trail and it's really hard to muzzle him with the threat of incarceration because as i said, that would only make him a martyr. but what can be done, the judicial process has to have integrity and that we can't do without that in a democratic society yeah. and the judge is saying here that this this isn't limiting his free speech is just protecting people. it's not because the first member is not absolute. in any event, there have always been limits when in went danger, when there's a clear and present danger to someone or to lots of people. so you it's not an absolute right judge. >> shira can land. it's great to have you. thank you for joining me tonight >> thank you for having me >> and that is not all of the breaking developments that are happening on the trump legal front tonight shortly after
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earlier tonight, we saw the judge and the criminal case releasing that expanded gag order in the civil fraud case. here, the one where trump was failed liable for years of business fraud in new york, we have now learned that trump has avoided financial disaster for the time being. he has posted at $175 million bond that prevents the new york attorney general from seizing any of his assets as he appeals that ruling here tonight is senior forms editor, forbes edit or dan alexander deb. we're really talking about truth social and something else. but this breaking news just came down before the show. what do we know about how trump's secured this bond >> well, the company that helped him do it is called night specialty insurance company. this is a company that's part of a group of companies owned by don hanky, who's another billionaire. he's worth about $7.5 billion interestingly, don hanky is also the largest individual shareholder or was for several years and access financial, which provided two key loans for trump against trump tower and his golf resort, doral down
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in miami back when he was facing that debt crisis around the time that he came out of office two times you see this billionaire stepping in and saying, these are financial arrangements that i can do. i think that i can make money on these and essentially saving trump oh, that's pretty remarkable that it's, it's coming from someone that he has gone to before >> yeah. that's right and don heck, he's an interesting guy. he made his fortune in subprime auto loans. so this is somebody who's comfortable with lending money to people that other people wouldn't necessarily want and give money to. he's a strictly numbers guy who's going to look at this and say, okay, yeah, he's got the collateral. he's got the cash, which trump does. >> i >> can do this bond and we're going to make money on it. and that's the end of story. and that's how trump ultimately was able to secure this. >> well, on that >> front, trump had said a few things when this bond was reduced when he couldn't pay
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what it was initially. but when it was reduced, he kinda had said he would use collateral or cash. then he said pretty definitively onetime leaving court that he was going to do in cash. do we know what was the case here? >> well, this was a bond, so you would expect that it would be collateral that he had posted not expect that the collateral that he posted with night insurance was kept cash. and when i say cash, i mean liquid assets. so you can take stocks, you can take bonds, you could take actually cash sitting a bank account all, of which trump has plenty, but if you add all of that up to serve a liquid assets category, you're looking at roughly 400 million for donald trump. and now between this one and the e jean carroll won the majority of his cash is now tied up in these bond agreements. and so that's going to limit his ability to grow. or expand his business even to operate its business very freely. >> that's interesting. and i mean essentially what this company is doing is saying that
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if he loses the appeal and he doesn't pay that, they will cover that $450 million judgment. i mean, but what this means as far as next steps, is it that the attorney general here're cannot take any action for months against his properties until the appeal actually plays out. >> that's right. so trump's properties will not be seized right now, which is really good news for him. the attorney general had already started filing some documents that suggested that she might be going after even small assets that could have been really, really disastrous for trump because if she had started seizing small asset, selling them at fire sale prices then collecting little amounts of cash via several assets all of a sudden his empire could have gotten a lot smaller very, very fast. now he's able to hold that off in hopes that he wins this appeal where he's maybe able to lower his judgment or something like that and be able to escape this without as much damage as you would have had? if he had had to pay the
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initial judgment at the outset or if he had had to go through the fire sale process. >> well, one thing we had talked about you and i when it was how is he going to pay the patho billion-dollar judgment that he clearly couldn't was truth, social, and the fact that it was going public and it started trading and he kinda stood to get this massive windfall from it, even though as you correctly predicted, you said it wasn't it didn't have the profitability that people were assuming it did. and when it actually went on the market, you predict that was going to change. i mean, we basically saw that that play out today yeah, that's right. >> the stock tanked today wipe 2 billion off of donald trump's net worth in a day. but have you had said, you know, 1 billion comes and and goes these days for donald trump. he's going to have a very, very volatile fortune because so much of it is tied to this stock. now, this thing is going to trade like a meme stocks. so yes, today there was bad news. they announced that they had lost a ton of money through 2023. their revenues were declining on a quarterly
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basis. all the sorts of things that if you were a serious investor looking at the financials of this company, would give you a lot of concern. however, in this case, it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out over the long term i wouldn't be shocked if the stock bounces right back up and then bounces back down and just, you yoes around because it's so divorced from the logic or the numbers, the financials of this company. and it's still all through it came down along way today as much longer way to go down before these numbers start making any sense. >> but i mean all of this had to do is because this is a $58,000,000 loss last year after a $50,000,000 gain in 2022. i mean, what does that how did people operate? but knowing what they know now, now that they can actually see the hard numbers about what truth social does or doesn't really have to offer >> yeah. well, the key numbers to look at here are what the operating profits are of this company and what's really bad
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for trump is that in the last quarter of 2023, the operating loss was roughly $5.3 million, which was up from its previous loss. the prior quarter of about $3 million. and that it looks like it's the are just operating loss since this company has started taking in revenue. that's a real problem. now when you get to the bottom line, there's a bunch of sort of financial instruments in terms of debt, converted equity and that sort of stuff that goes into that final total. >> but if you look at >> the operating number, it's a much cleaner number and it doesn't look good for chunk. now, keep in mind the sorts of people we're really excited about this and investing in, they one day too are not the people who are going to be looking to to closely at these numbers >> day alexander, you called it. thank you for joining us again tonight to talk about all that and the breaking news up next as promised, we have new reporting for you tonight, reporting that i'm here from sources is what donald trump's former confidant has long time and very trusted aid, hope hicks may soon be testifying for the prosecution. that is
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16. she was later the white house communications director. and what she testified behind closed doors to congress in 2019. she said multiple times that she was never present when trump and michael cohen talked about stormy daniels. but in documents from michael cohen's federal case prosecutors believed that trump had joined a call that cohen was on with hope pigs at the time that cohen was working to make stories about trump's alleged affairs, go away. in fact, phone records show that multiple calls between michael cohen and hope hicks, including the day that they learned stormy daniels wanted to be paid for her story when the karen mcdougal story, the other woman who said she had an affair with donald trump when that first went public, cohen texted hicks that it was getting little to no traction, and she responded to him, quote saying, keep praying, it's working. >> i want to >> bring in cnn, senior legal analyst and former assistant us attorney elie honig la i mean hope hicks has testified before in that in 2019, she testified would the molar investigation
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and she's testified to this grand jury that eventually indicted trump. what do you make of what she could offer to prosecutors? >> well, she's potentially a very powerful witness for prosecutors. first of all, it appears she was part of these crucial conversations when my michael cohen and donald trump are talking about paying off stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. and importantly, why that's one of the key questions here were they paying her to silence or in relation to the election, or just for personal reasons. also, she's perfectly situated as a witness for a prosecutor. she's not like michael cohen. she hasn't spent her whole life talking negatively about trump's. she hasn't split from donald trump. i mean, they've parted ways on some things, but she still more or less in trump's camp. and so if you trust her testimony and we know they have her testimony because they put her in the grand jury. if you trust her testimony is a prosecutor, she could be a game changer. >> i mean, if she essentially you're arguing would have more credibility with a jury because she was someone who who was not only in the white house, but left and then came back and was certainly in trump's good graces. i mean, i can remember
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when she left the white house, he walked her out in front of all the press in front of us telecom give for this big goodbye, which white people that trump white house did not. >> they don't all get happy going >> away, like the door >> let me count the >> ways in which he picks has a better witness it's then michael cohen, number one, hope picks does not have a perjury conviction or a fraud conviction. she's not lied to congress. number two. >> she >> apparently is still in decent graces with donald trump. you don't have to have her attacked on the stand the way michael cohen's going to be attacked as a person who is single-mindedly obsessed with bringing down donald trump. she's still in that camp. and number three, she's just more patched than michael cohen and you want the attached as a prosecutor, you want your witnesses to be straight down the middle, just the facts you don't want people with agendas, with axes to grind. so if i'm looking at the two of them, i would much prefer hope picks. i mean, now a key question is going to be does their testimony mutually reinforce or does it contradict the ball game here is going to be timed. donald trump to know about this, right? i mean, that's how they would be able to effectively make their case. so the question is whether or
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not she could shed light on that. okay. this is such an important point that you've touched on. this is not about did donald trump pay hush money? that's not illegal? this is not about did donald trump? no. >> they paid hush money. he pretty clearly did. that's also not illegal. this is about falsification of business records. and so the crucial link that has to be made is that donald trump's somehow knew about blessed ordered, instructed that when you guys logged these payments, don't put them in there as hush money payments, put them in there as legal fees. and that's the thing we actually don't know that i've not seen documents that show donald trump newer ordered that that's how they be logged, but that's the crime falsification is >> kind of remarkable just looking at all the people who could be called as witnesses when we expect there to be a pretty long list, it's like a redo of 2016 and the campaign, i mean, kellyanne conway testified to the grand jury as well. we don't have shelby call to potentially testify. i shouldn't we don't know for sure that hope hicks well we expect qatar to we don't know. >> sure. adult >> starts, but i mean, it's pretty remarkable who we could see get up there on that witness stand. yeah. i mean, we are in all likelihood going to
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hear from michael cohen testifying under criminal case hope hicks, potentially stormy daniels, but it's also important for people to understand there will be boring witnesses to not all witnesses are going to documents split. yes. i mean, the documents right. you have to call people who can say yes, that's a legend. sure. yes, this is how we kept the ledger that kinda thing. so but this is this is going to be a remarkable trial. we're going to see things playing out from that seem like ancient history. i mean, 2016, if you have a kid in college right now, like the elementary school, when this all happened. just wanted me the first question that you asked, hope picks. well, if you are in your great question, i would go so right to those phone calls where she was on with donald trump and michael cohen, i would ask her essentially, you can't lead. but if i could lead, i would say you all made those payments because it was the election. you all made those payments because you were afraid of what her coming coming out to the public could do to donald trump in the 2016 election, to markov all to see what this could look like. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> i bet you all i'm sure we'll be covering it all together. elie honig, thank you for that up next there's been a big development in a state of florida as the supreme court,
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in the state of florida, even though it's six weeks, many women don't even know that they're pregnant by that point. and as you can see here, you've given how many southern states have already they end abortion almost entirely. this is going to potentially force whitman across the south to travel further to get abortion care after that time but in a sign of how this fight is not even close to being over the conservative-leaning court also ruled to allow a measure on the ballot this november in florida that could protect the right to an abortion i want to bring in cnn political commentator margaret hoover, who worked in the george w bush white house and host firing line on pbs. and this is just a remarkable moment to see both of these things happening in a single day. it just speaks to one what this, what our world looks like, what our nation it looks like after roe versus wade was overturned well, there, there was a standard line from republicans and there was about federalism that was like, let's just let the states decide >> and every state will do what they want if you've overturn roe v. wade, and that's
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exactly what you're getting, but what you didn't hear previously was exactly how strident the far right would be when empowered to take away the rights of women to make choices about their own health care and reproductive rights i'm a pro-choice republican. there are not very many of us but more than you'd think when you look at a state like kansas, which is red i'd read read and 18 percentage points to protect a woman's right to be able to have an abortion if she wants one. yeah. i mean, we kind of saw all these governors trying to outdo each other on what their abortion ban was going to be. desantis signed this basically and he says, well, the legislature sent that to me, but i mean, he was also urging them to do it a lot of control over them at the time it was before he ran for president >> yeah. i mean, it has been erased. and also before he ran for president, is the entire reason he did, because he was trying to outflank donald trump and every other republican who is running for the nomination on the right hard to outflank
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the president who facilitated the overturn of roe v. wade on abortion. but nevertheless, he tried. and here we are >> what are the >> consequences of this politically, we know what the consequences are in terms of the real lived lives of women for the next six months they're not they're gonna have very, very difficult time getting an abortion if you live in the state of florida and resources are pouring into ways to facilitate their travel, which by the way is a very different world than it wasn't 1973. it's a lot easier to get on a plane and get an abortion. another state but this is not the world. most women and most americans want to live in. and that bears out in all the polling in florida was a state where women in the south would go to because it was one of the only places where they could mean if you lived in alabama or mississippi, it was incredibly difficult to get one anyway. and now that kind of avenue is closed off and you can see from the map how it's just basically a no go zone. but >> this isn't no-go zone, but i am heartened that this will be on the ballot i'm hardness will be on the ballot because
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the state of florida and the women in florida, the menn fluorophore will be able to choose what they want and every single time this has been put on the ballot especially in red states the rights of women to choose to have an abortion have prevailed and the biden campaign clearly thinks is a big victory because they've decided today they're going to try to flip florida because they clearly think the wind is what an issue. >> well, i mean, is that likely? does it really isn't florida is really difficult democrats haven't invested in, in florida in the way they've invested in other states year after year. and republicans, while they haven't invested deeply in many states, they have invested in florida. florida is hard, but joe biden lost by about 371,000 votes that's a lot that's a big margin to make up. >> but >> if you consider that, there may be depressed turnout, lack of enthusiasm with the two candidates. but then if you have major mobilizing issues and by the way, abortion, you'll hear republicans say, yeah, that mobilizes the left,
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but it also mobilizes the right >> it does >> not mobilize the right is completely asymmetrical. >> yeah, anyway >> mobilize the left versus the right. >> look how it's played out in kansas, ohio, and michigan. it is that motivating factor, but you're saying maybe we could see this situation where florida, they still vote for donald trump for president, but, but they also vote for this. well, >> and you've seen donald trump himself equivocated when it comes to the purity with which he is entirely against abortion, does it not to talk about who doesn't, because he frankly actually has a decent political sensibility around the issue, except for that he understands that the rest of the republican party is absolutely unyielding when it comes to this issue. how does he hubel this? did you think this actually puts him in more of a bind because he's been so squishy talking about abortion, where maybe he likes 15 weeks for a federal abortion ban. he criticized to santos's six-week ban. how much does this put him in a bind? >> i don't think donald trump has ever been divined. he just
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says exactly what he wants and i think think he actually has a decent political sensibility when it comes to what he understands is women's rights desires like how potent it is politically to want to be able to choose to have an abortion if that is your choice? >> we talk about the fact this is going to go into effect 30 days from now that the six-week ban will be in effect when we had ron desantis for the town hall when he was still running. we always talk about these exceptions that are included, but they're a lot more complicated than i think people always realized on the surface, we pressed him on that. i just want to remind everybody what desantis had to say about that >> do you think that those >> limits are reasonable and that women agree that those those limits are reasonable. >> so the florida legislature enacted a heartbeat bill with those exceptions, i sign the legislation with those exceptions. in law, rape, incest, life for the mother victims of human trafficking, as well as the really terrible situations where you have the fetal abnormalities and yes, of
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course, i think they're reasonable one that was in january, i'm wearing the same suit tonight, but two on that issue itself. i mean, he was kind of he was saying that, yes, he does think there are reasonable, but but it was women had to provide documentation to be able to get an abortion. they had to prove this. they'd have a police report showing that they were assaulted i mean, there were a lot of, you know, there's also have yachts. there's also life of the mother who determines that. i mean, that's a subjective determination, medical determination by a doctor who is going to say, i actually know your life is in danger when i mean, there are a lot look these things are not black and white. you can have women who are diagnosed with cancer who can't start their chemotherapy because they're afraid it's going to damage the fetus who decides whether? there the mother can endure that. and in order to protect the fetus, i mean, these are really difficult, difficult calls and so to suggest that there's all these outs and it's really easy. i think you're right. i think it obscures and it simplifies the issue in a way that hurts women. >> yeah. and it can be a split
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decision for a lot of women and their doctors, margaret hoover, we'll see what the police legal consequences of this orbit on what you just mentioned there. i do want to bring in nancy northrop, who is the president and ceo of the center for reproductive rights. we've been talking about this issue a lot and i think it's important to note this is one of the strictest and most far-reaching abortion bans in the united states, once it goes into effect, 30 days from now, what do you think the impact is going to be for women? and in florida >> will the impact when the six-week band goes into effect is going to be devastating. i mean florida has been a very important place with a lot of long-term providers in that state, but really been a place where women can go with so many states around it, banning abortion. it's going to block out the south we've just this six-week banned in effect in florida, which is why it's so important that all florida is know that they're getting a vote in november about protecting their right to abortion in the florida constitution. i cannot underscore how important that is. would this devastating decision by the florida supreme
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court today? >> well, i wonder what you make it's these twin decisions that i think makes this all. >> the more >> remarkable because you kinda see how in the split second that, that access to an abortion can change so quickly? >> we yes. i mean, the decision to overturn decades of precedent in the state of florida protecting the right to abortion under their price equals. i mean, this is yet another terrible impact of the supreme court of the us is decision to overturn roe versus wade because the florida supreme in court said, oh, well, you know, we got it wrong 40 years ago and then the fact that the supreme court, of florida is allowing the ballot decision to go ahead and november. well, of course that was the right decision in that case i mean, it was a ridiculous challenge to try to keep it off the ballot >> but >> luckily it is on the ballot in november, it's going to take 60% of the vote in florida and
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all floridians and people around the country who care should go to the website of the ballot initiative floridians protecting freedom to really help out with that effort yeah, we'll see what those voters decide come november. nancy northrop. great to have you and margaret hoover ahead here at a tragic confirmation is coming in from the founder of the world central kitchen, jose andres, several members of his 18 killed in gaza reportedly by an israeli airstrike details to come after break get your viewing glasses ready. >> eclipse across america >> live next monday at one crap. >> now, we got to get france something. >> we could use. xi's new gift mode. >> all right, done you have to do four more get take a pea-sized amount, apply it like a lotion pits under boob, five-fold, about cracks, feet.
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jose andres, the world renowned chef, says that >> five food aid workers have been killed in an apparent israeli airstrike and central gaza. posting online and part and i'm reading from his post now, i am heartbroken and grieving for their families and friends. and our whole world central kitchen family. these people are angels. they are not faceless, they are not nameless. the israeli government needs to stop this indiscriminate killing. the idf says, it is conducting a thorough review at the highest levels to understand the circumstances of this tragic incident. and more details, but we do know that the world central kitchen aid workers have been critical to helping get food delivered to gaza are more than 2 million people are starving. and the death toll has now risen above 32,000 according to the local authorities for more on this, i want to bring in barack ravid, axios reporter, and also cnn's political and global affairs analyst and brock, obviously, i mean, this is heartbreaking news that we are now getting confirmation tonight. what are
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you hearing from sources about what happened here? >> well, i think that's mostly on the israeli side. there's a lot of confusion and even i would say embarrassment mainly because world central, central kitchen was a i don't know if partners the right word, but was an ngo the, idf worked very closely with because part of what world central kitchen did was to bring food to gaza through the c in two ships and in both cases, this was coordinated with the idf and the idf want to show that what by working with this organization it is addressing the food shortage, shortages in gaza. and now a few days later the idf allegedly hits for aid workers from this organization but i think that more broadly
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this incident was really the writing was on the wall because four months, the biden administration and the un and other aid agencies are saying that there is a deconfliction problem between the idf and the aid organizations. and there were several incidents that are very similar to this one where the idf hit aid workers in gaza and still nothing has changed in the rules of engagement of the idf. and we see this incident now again it's devastating. i mean, the world central kitchen is the first on-location almost everywhere when tragedy strikes, they were in ukraine, they were in haiti, they were in gaza. and obviously we'll stay on this thing continued to follow this, but i also want to ask you about another development that happened today because a ron says that it is really airstrike killed seven of their military officials in damascus and syria. they say, including two top commanders, one of whom i should note oversaw. their elite kgs force. >> how
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>> significant is this and what have you been hearing from israeli officials? i mean, they don't often say if they're behind these attacks, but, but what have you been hearing from sources? >> so first why he from israeli officials is that israel is behind this strike it was i think it was clear from the homeless the first moment >> and >> this is a very significant incident and very significant strike not only because of how senior this guy i is the serine in general is. it's significant because it was a strike on an iranian diplomatic facility. this is an unprecedented thing. >> and >> many officials thing that this might be one assassination, too many for the iranians who until now from october we're seven, they did not get involved directly in this conflict. they send their product proxies, but they did not enter by themselves to this conflict and now they might have no other choice
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>> i mean, is that a real concern that this could this could escalate things even further >> definitely israeli official say that they don't think that the uranium, for example, will tell his bottle now, okay. go all in, in a war against israel. this is not a scenario that people are thinking about, but again, the iranians have a lot dove capabilities through proxies and directly from iran with their capabilities, both with ballistic missiles and drones and other weapons that they have to attack israel directly. and this is something that they, again refrain from doing. they center their proxies, but they did not to indirectly. and now i think nobody would be surprised if maignan's will go directly against israel >> i mean, that is going to keep a lot of people at the pentagon up tonight and the other thing that's happening in israel today that is really
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notable as they passed a law overwhelmingly that would allow the government from it there to take action against any foreign media network that they deem a national security risk. the prime minister has called al-jazeera a terror channel. he said they would shut down their local bureau. that's in israel. i mean as someone who lived there, you lived in tel aviv for quite some time. how remarkable would that be? >> well, first i wanted i still want to see what the government is actually going to do, okay, because passing this law just give more authorities to the ministry of communications. it still doesn't mean that they're going to do anything about it. a lot of people in israel thing that this is spin that then you put out today in order to divert attention from the fact that he's that he went the underwent a went through surgery other people think that this might be a way to use some leverage on the qatari government but so i think we
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should still wait and see whether the government is really going to do something about in the tunnels spoke about doing, taking action against though jazeera. i think for something like fifth for almost 15 years. and it's didn't do anything. so i think you should wait, but just another point about the previous question and you said that the pentagon, a lot of people in the pentagon are going to stay out tonight and there's already a reason because what we saw in the first few hours after the strike in damascus is that for the first time in weeks, a us base in syria was attacked by a new pro range in militia that fire the drone at that base is drawn was intercepted and nobody was hurt. but this was the first time the pro-ukrainian which has attacked us base in many, many weeks yeah. >> brock review. that's a really great point and we will continue to monitor all of
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that. thank you for bringing us your reporting is always will continue to monitor the developing story as also we hear more about those aid workers. we're going to take a quick break now, we come back. there is something to celebrate tonight is the final four. finally set my alma mater. >> i don't know if you've >> heard made it for the very first time. all right. we've got bob >> costas here >> on this major issue where i'm taking sides good evening, everyone. i'm abby phillip. what on earth is going on with the republican party is just a huge problem for the biden how do you know that those numbers are false news night with abby phillip >> next on cnn >> there is no media personality businesswoman celebrity chef leichhardt >> the many lives of martha stewart now streaming on macs it's, a new day one.
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>> 808 to one 4,000 i don't normally get to say roll tide, an april, but of course this far from football season, but this is a year >> that is unlike any other from my alma mater, at least that's because for the first time ever, the alabama crimson tide men's basketball team has made it to the final four of the ncw a tournament it as a historic run like this. and of course it requires commentary from a legendary sports caster, bob costas, who is here as always to talk all things a bamba, i read bob as we're watching this game on saturday, it was only the second time alim is ever made the elite eight. the last time i was still in high school, i said, what do you make of they're success, the fact that they're making it to arizona >> no, it's a terrific ron and i just want to say that i forgive you i absolve you of all blame for tossing objectivity out the window >> i >> might note my syracuse
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orange winners of the national title in 2003 and five times to the final four under jim bay haim, they did not make the >> ncw a tournament and they turned down and then bid just for those viewers who are only concerned about our respective alma mater is now they get they being the tide they get to phoenix and the final four, but they run into the number one overall seed, the defending champions, uconn, that team is very, very deep. dan hurley, a terrific coach. all five of their starters average in double-figures, tourist and newton is a consensus all american leads them and points and assess so if they pull that upset, that's even greater than any upset they pull to get to where they are at this point. >> yeah. i mean, beating north carolina, beating clumps said and now taking on yukon. i mean, what i'm amazed by those. >> just >> to see the progression of alabama's team and what nato is, has been able to do with them. that i didn't know itself has been so impressive
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>> and who would think that at least for one fleeting moment, the basketball coach is a bigger deal than the football coach at alabama may mean. meanwhile, lest we forget only moments ago iowa finished off lsu reversing the outcome come from last year's final. so iowa with caitlin clark who scored 41 points at a great game, angel reese for lsu had a good game. i think it was 17 points and 20 rebounds, but lsu is out. iowa moves on against the winner of connecticut and usc. they're playing right now, connecticut as one on the women's side, 11 than national titles under geno rems. so it's possible that uconn could have two teams, one man, one women's in the respective final fours and nc state already has two on the women's side and one on the men's side. >> yeah. i mean, caitlin clark though tonight and i everyone i know was watching this show and not her game, but she was so amazing, 41 points, nine
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pointers, which ties a record. >> i mean, >> her impact on this sport has been just incredible to witness she had a great, great game and obviously she is the number one star, but there are a constellation of stars around her. but women's game has improved in leaps and bounds, not only in popularity, but in terms of the quality of play, i mentioned this with wolf blitzer a few hours ago when i did missouri's men's games in the late 70s and early 80s on the radio, i show up at the hearn center as it was then called. i don't know what it is now, but i'd show up for a game that was started 7:00. the men's game, and the women's game would start maybe three hours before there'll be a couple of hundred people in the stands. and the quality of play was really pretty low. but that's just the beginning of the title nine generation title nine is less than a decade in place at that point. and so now you're getting greater instruction, greater
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participation, more money put into it at the college level, at the high school level, whatever it might be the women's game has improved in leaps and bounds in just a couple of generations, not only in the quality of play, but obviously in the interest that, uh, generates. now nationwide. >> yeah, i mean, we've seen we've seen this the two stars here, just angel reese, caitlin clark, all these other really impressive naibe. i mean, i was even looking at the ticket prices today and i will note there are fewer seats in the women's final four, but they're tickets are actually more expensive than the guys. it's just, it's remarkable. bob costas is always, it is great thing yeah thank you, caitlin, i'm congratulations to the tide. >> let's i don't know. you just kinda had a little bit of a we'll see what the prediction looks like for saturday for field will carefully things like i was four, i was being since i was i. was being sincere by the way, south carolina shouldn't overlook them. 36 and under dawn staley going for the third national title with her as the coach

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