it is a possibility she has already said she was interested in doing that, but one thing happening here is the trial date that's the other thing hanging over this case. it's been 11 days since she visited that with the attorneys. when will this trial be? will it be scheduled before the election? we don't have an answer yet. we're going to be in court with her again on thursday, watching the parties and to see exactly what the judge here does for the trial. >> katelyn polantz, no one else. i would rather break some news with a dual reporting wood. thank you for this amazing team effort >> thank you. >> and thank you all so much for joining us for this exclusive interview here tonight on trump employee number five, we'll continue to monitor the fall of that and watch closely to see what judge cannon decides if she decides to trial date here. in the meantime, cnn newsnight with abby phillip starts right now >> a cnn exclusive, a witness

for the prosecution shows and tells how donald trump operates like a mob boss. that's tonight on newsnight good evening. >> i'm abby phillip in new york and tonight, cnn puts a voice and a face to the key facts that you could read on paper in that case against donald trump. meet brian butler. he's also known as employee number five in the criminal indictment from special counsel jack smith. butler is not a random person who trump can suddenly claim. he doesn't know he knows trump and it has known him for 21 years since he took a job as a seasonal valet at mar-a-lago. he has years of pictures and messages with everyone important in the trump orbit. he worked for he worked hundreds of p.stance feet away from carlos de oliviera, the

other mar-a-lago employee? he was indicted alongside trump, and they took lightly walks together. they were friends, but their paths now look very different. they oliviera is alleged to have lied to investigators. meanwhile, butler has cooperated and he is helping prosecutors to fill in these gaps. about how trump and his coconspirators mishandled classified materials and how trump it is. employees lied to federal investigators about those documents, about how trump sought out loyalty from all of his people butler corroborates two important episodes that are told in that indictment first, how trump told an australian billionaire classified submarine secrets. and also how boxes were moved. the very same day that attorneys for the former president swore in, arguments. so they had turned them all over all of the documents that bore classified markings back

to the government and then what happened is walt left before me and he never goes directly to the plane. he's either in the motorcade when he goes there with the boss, which the former president and i remember telling him he left the club with i didn't know what he had in his vehicle, but he waited for me at a nearby business and i told him i would tell him when i was leaving mar-a-lago. so i left mar-a-lago. i texted him, hey, i'm on my way >> he followed me. he pulled out and got behind me. we got to the airport. i ended up loading all the luggage i had he had a bunch of boxes. >> you noticed that he had thought they >> were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> and did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in his box and no clue no. i had no clue. i mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate, piling them up. i remember they were

all stacked on top of each other and then we're lifting them up to the pilots but. >> what might be just as revealing is how butler also fleshes out how trump works and the real-time efforts by the former president to make sure that the people around him remained loyal in the face of a federal investigation? >> you. got a call from walt nauta after the search happened. >> what did he say to you? >> so i was on the my way, did my birthday weekend down at the hardrock and i think i texted him like, hey, you know, we'll talk like in an hour, i was with people or something so i called him back and he's like, hey, someone just wants to make sure carlos is good. i'm with carlos. we're at the hardrock by the food court and his phone rings and it's the former president it takes to call where we're standing in the food court. i think we went to sit down and he i can't remember how long the conversation was, but i know at the end of the conversation

when they hung up, carlo said he's gonna get me an attorney and joining me now is miles taylor. he's a former trump homeland security's official who penned the infamous now anonymous op-ed that warned about donald trump his book, blowback, a warning to save democracy from trump's revenge is out in paperback next month miles, it has always been alleged that trump basically acts like a mob kingpin this, and that anecdote, especially at the end, there doesn't exactly dispute that not only does it not dispute it, abby, i think it paints a very vivid picture. one of the more vivid pictures we've seen about how trump does indeed operate like a mob boss. and the significance i think of brian butler's testimony here really can't be overstated. here. because a person that was in donald trump's orbit for years and years, decades. in fact,

and puts people at the scene at these critical junctures. this is not someone who's got secondhand or third-hand information. he's there on the ground and that's what's going to make it really tough. for trump and his allies to disavow butler. now, they're typical order of operations here is when someone close to them turns against them, they do everything possible to paint that person as an outsider, someone who wasn't privy to sensitive information and sensitive places, but it's clear that butler was privy to those things. he was probably those things for years. and in fact, was literally the man with his hands on the boxes when this case first broke open, that was the thing we were saying would be the closest we might get to a smoking gun is someone who saw the boxes moved or security camera footage and it does seem like brian butler really has competed hello. and testimony to that effect. >> and you alluded to this, but there's another side of being one who comes out and turns on

trump. and it's a dark side. what can mr. butler now expect now that he's put a face to these accusations, he's put himself out there for trump and his fans to attack >> well, abby, i do think that his disclosures are brave because it takes a lot to turn against president of the united states or a former president of the united states, especially when it's one that is this as vindictive as donald trump is, not just me, but a lot of other people i know who've done this have lost homes and jobs and life savings and their families have been threatened for doing this. and in this case, a very, very significant case of national security, brian butler has turned again as his former boss, and he can expect those types of repercussions and i'm sure that donald trump and his allies will try to do the same thing in mob boss. like fashion

as they've done to other people. so i would commend him, but i also think there's a bigger lesson here, abby, and that's for people who are still in the ex-president's or a bit that it's never too late to do the right thing, and that it's possible to come forward and have a clear conscience instead of a criminal conviction, which is the choice that brian butler has made is to try to avoid going down with some of those folks around donald trump who appear to have engaged in potentially unlawful kfir and instead come forward with that information. so i suspect that's not the last of people like brian butler. >> yeah, we will see if more people do come out and there's so many cases now, there are so many opportunities here. i do miles want to get your take on something else as cnn's jim sciutto. he just added some more texts sure. some more detail to a story about how donald trump allegedly praised hitler. the reason, according

to trump's former chief of staff, john kelly, who you know well, was that trump lamented that hitler, as kelly recounted, maintained his senior staff's loyalty. i'll trump himself often did not. >> have you ever heard >> trump talk about hitler? do you ever recall john kelly relate these kinds of stories about trump? >> well look, i'd never heard trump personally mentioned hitler, but i don't doubt jim's reporting for a second in its certainly strikes me as making a whole lot of sense that my former boss, john kelly, would have lamented trump talking about hitler. in fact, kelly had one said to me before in his view, quote trump trump was a very, very evil man. and that was in part because of the types of people he praised, which in particular was autocrats. trump really had a deep affinity for autocratic leaders, whether it was vladimir putin or zhizhen ping and russia or kim jong un in north korea, he lauded these

individuals who had extraordinary power and the power to enforce their edicts. this was pretty chilling to john kelly, to myself, really to anyone who would witness trump, the leader of the free world, regularly prays, despots. that was something that became a pretty consistent care perked her flaw that folks witness with donald trump. and so abby, it doesn't strike me as shocking at all that he would be someone who would look up to hitler as an idol instead of someone who should be an enemy of history. >> well, his praise of autocrats didn't just happen behind closed doors. he it says it right out in public, including just on friday meeting with viktor orban of hungary as well in mar-a-lago. miles taylor, we appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you. >> thanks abby >> and tonight, donald trump said something really important. it might be the most important run on sentence of this campaign. and it's a sentence to trust me, joe biden

will do his best to make sure voters here, over and over again. >> so first of all, there is a lot you can do in terms of entitlements, in terms of cutting and in terms of also the theft and the bad management of its adelman is tremendous bad management of entitlements is tremendous amounts those things, numbers of things you can do >> did you catch that? while the biden campaign did they saw it and nearly instantaneously spat out a new digital ad. the trump campaign counters that the former president plans to be a strong protector of entitlements not cut it. and that he was struck a strong protector of both social security and medicare while in office. but that's not for lack of trying. trump's budgets in office did not want to leave social security and medicare alone. in 2020, his budget spelled out in black and white that he wanted to spend trillions of dollars less on

both programs. that today was not an aberration. it's a pattern for trump and his campaign of talking out of both sides of their mouth on this issue. what exactly will happen to these programs that millions of americans rely on if he becomes president haley support to 23% national sales tax. and she wants to gut medicare and social security if nikki haley got away, most seniors it would work their entire lives right up until the end. and then not live long enough to receive the benefits they earned and paid for. in addition to wanting to cut social security and raised the minimum age to at least 70 and medicare, he wanted to absolutely destroy it rhino ron desanctimonious is delivering the biggest insurance company bailout and globe plus history the socialist democrats are trying to destroy american health care and try to destroy your social security that

won't happen with me. we're not touching medicare. we want to keep medicare. we're not touching social security and we will always protect your medicare and we will always protect your social security entitlements ever be on your thing. >> at some point they will be. we have tremendous growth. we're going to have tremendous growth this next year. it'll be toward the end of the year. the growth is going to be incredible. and at the right time we will take a look at that. that's actually the easiest of all things. if you look because it's such a willing to do some things that you said you wouldn't do in the past though in terms of look, we cannot become a great nation until we've come rich again. and you know, we can't afford social security, we can't afford anything. i'm going to save social security, save medicare medicaid, and social security without cuts, have to do it. i'm not going to cut so personal security like every other republican, and i'm not going to cut medicare or medicaid >> and joining me now is former senior adviser to president obama, dan pfeiffer. dan, how

big of a deal are these comments? i mean look, it might have gone under the radar, but the biden campaign was paying attention >> i think it's a huge deal, you know, a lot of the things that trump does, his gas, you re to things he says the kind of things to get people, the press and active, engaged democratic myself all worked up but are pretty disconnected. from the everyday lives of the working class voters who are going to decide this election social security and medicare go right to the core of what these voters care the most about and dental trauma is open the door on an issue in which poll after poll shows he has a very real vulnerability with the exact voters who have helped propel him to his position in this race. i think it's dianne to you, i think is really impressive. the biden campaign is often running with it and they're going to try to drive this every single day through the election. so very important moment for the good will this even sink in though i mean, we just played a decade of clips from tunnel trump where he's saying two things and then he says the part about touching

social security and medicare very quietly. are voters going to hear that? frankly, is the biden campaign going to be able to make the case that they want to make here well they have aid months to do it. that's the good news, right? there, starting right off the bat, we're gonna there's gonna be billions of dollars in ads. there's going to be debates. was me opportunities to do it. and yes, donald trump will say he's not going to cut so secure medicare. but he said that 2016. and then as you pointed out, he put cuts to social security medicare in his budget every year he was president here's what we know. donald trump, once a console security medicare, he said it to as many times he put in his budgets. if he gets elected, the most likely scenario is he goes back to the white house with republican house, republican senate. probably can speaker of the house, longtime supporter of kidney cell security, medicare put a budget out when he's share the freedom, freedom caucus to privatized social medicare, to raise the eligibility age low security, both of the white guys named john running to replace mitch

mcconnell, longtime supporters as a social security cuts. so this is a very what the important choice here is, if you elect donald trump it's cuts to social carry or a very real danger if you'd like joe biden, he will protect them. he said so in the state of the union on thursday night just on the reality of all of this though, i mean, is president biden's promise to not cut these entitlements is that serious considering that the facts are that in short order, they're not going to be able to make their commitments to american seniors why is biden put out in his budget today and talked on the state of the union, the difference between biden and trump in terms of dealing with our deficit dealer and getting >> our fiscal house in order. is that one of donald trump's first act? in his second term in the white house will be to renew the $2,000,000,000,000 tax cut that he gave corporations very wealthy. biden is going to repeal that tax that he's not going to sign it back on spurred keep it for middle and working class people. but, but he's going to save a bunch of money and he's

gonna have not going to he will balance our budget. who he will get our fiscal house in order and he will do it without console security, medicare, that's a difference because joe biden, once you've raised taxes on the wealthy and corporations, not cut them all right, dan pfeiffer. thanks very much for joining us on all of that >> thank you, abby. >> next, the sex trafficking victim who alabama senator katie britt, sided in that state the union response. she is now speaking out why she says that the senator completely distorted her story. plus, a president, biden effigy as beaten and kicked at a republican fundraiser in kansas. i'll speak with one of the local republicans who is now condemning this stunt and breaking news tonight on the evil testifying before congress, a special counsel who did the report on biden has left the doj and he will testify now as a private citizen, the significance ahead on news

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>> was it an instant attraction? >> yeah. >> read these top fundraiser under investigation, he put a lover want to stay payroll. >> the reasons in the grieving dine is a lot more complicated than we remember. >> did you want to be outed united states of scandal with jake tapper? >> i've got to get a therapy is if they're having an interview with jake new episodes sunday at nine on cnn >> it was an alarming story that was the aim that illustrating president biden's failure at the border. the problem is the story is not true. listen to what senator katie britt told the nation during the republican response to biden's state of the union i traveled to the del rio sector of texas. that's where i spoke to a woman who shared her story with me she had been sex trafficked by the cartels starting at the age of 12. we wouldn't be okay with this happening in a third world

country? this is the united states of america. and it is past time, in my opinion, that we start acting like it president biden's border policies are a disgrace >> so here's what is actually true. senator britt, she did visit the southern border in 2013. that's her there in the olive shirt. she met a woman there who described her experience being trafficked but that woman says that the senator is misrepresenting her experience to make a political point. her name is karla. jacinto, and she tells cnn that she wasn't trafficked by cartels at all. but instead by a pimp who entrapped her and other vulnerable girls she was never trafficked into the united states as britt suggested, she also was held captive during president bush's presidency. that was 20

years ago, not during the biden administration. and she didn't meet the senator one-on-one, as you saw in the pictures, there and listen to what has been to told cnn's rafael romo >> at one point when i met you years and years ago, you told me that you felt like at the beginning mexican politicians had taken advantage of view by using your story for political purposes. do you feel like that happened once again here in the united states, they jaw >> yes. in fact, i hardly ever cooperate with politicians because it seems to me that they only want an image. they only want a photo. and that to me it's not fair >> and joining me now is cnn political commentator se cupp, and also the host of the right time with bomani jones, that podcast. bomani jones himself bomani. what do you make of what karla just said about just

how politicians mexico, the united states. they just take the story and they do whatever they want with it. >> well, i think in this case it was so startling because it seemed to be such a blanket misrepresentation. there weren't a couple of quirks. it was like, well, it's kinda like what she said. no, no, no. it seemed to be like a full on page one, rewrite or what the story was in the first place. and so the cell job for that portion after the state of the union is the truth doesn't matter because it's about selling a feeling in their moment. and you can't unsee, scare people. so if you watch what you have there, like an almost sound like one of those sally struthers commercial this supposed to really, really hit you in the heart and make you sit and $0.35 a day? he did help these people who are starving, like it's going to such an emotional place that after people find out what the truth is, it doesn't matter, you can't unring that emotional bill. so if whoever the audience was, the truth of it didn't matter, and then a woman like a cento, her story is secondary because it really was only the basis to go sell the scare. >> yeah. i mean, se let's be honest. politicians lie, democrats or republicans but

there is an asymmetry right now. you in american politics. with the boldness of the lies, the brashness of it. this is maybe one example of that someone suggested that on the, because people are so used to this happening on the right that it's not taken as seriously even in a situation like that, do you think that there's any truth to that? >> well, it's not it doesn't register it all to the republican base. and that is because they are used to this and they admitted many of them. we don't care that donald trump lies. i mean, there you go. okay. if you don't care that the leader of the free world, right, the former president, president at the time is a liar, lies regularly, routinely about little stuff and big stuff why would you care that someone like katie britt lied telling an anecdote after the state of the union or someone like george santos lied for a living. it seems from new york's third congressional district. this does not bother the base because the basis here

to be aggrieved and have their grievances reflected back that is it. that's all they care about. the truth is really incidental. >> yeah. i mean, in the exaggerations to your point, the emotional need to just say this is scary, this is scary, trumped any attempt to even be this is a real person like they misrepresented a real person's actually horrific story of being trafficked nowhere near the united states, right? >> but i also think that the real person whose story they hijack the people who are likely to be offended by that enough people that they're trying to win over in the first place, like the margins that they tried to get from doing this apparently or not, those people like we have a larger societal issue that is, of course we were just inundated with so much information that while we're talking here about the fact that their story wasn't true. i'd be curious to know what percentage of people that watch they in real time know that it was not true, right? like if >> you're watching a fox news, yeah, probably. i never really hear about this is the onetime

you parachute into care about what's going on with politics that you just hear that. do you know that this has been corrected on dominion, but let me go ahead and actually play what happened when katie britt was confronted by this on fox this weekend. take a listen to be clear, the store that you relate is not something that's happened under the biden administration. that particular person i'm very, very clearly said i spoke to a woman who told me about when she was trafficked, when she was 12. so i didn't say a teenager i didn't say a young woman, a grown woman, a woman when she was trafficked, when she was 12. and so listening to her story, she has a victims rights advocate who was telling this is what drug cartels are doing. this is how they're profiting off of women. and it is disgusting >> again, just, just to be clear, drug cartels were not involved here. and doesn't match. she doesn't address the broader false head of the store, doesn't matter. and

here's the thing. the immigration issue favors republicans. all the polling suggests that people were worried about immigration. blame biden and democrats. she did not need to tell a made-up story to make a point based on actual facts, she could tell that story. it's not going to appeal to everyone, but the story is real. the issue is real. >> and it seems like >> republicans are hell-bent on giving democrats these gifts. trump going out and using hitlerian language to describe immigrants and migrants. great way to get moderates and independents or republicans saying no, we don't want to fix the border with this bill that you've offered us full of stuff. we've never gotten before because we want trump to run on it and then putting katie britt up there to tell the full story that she didn't have to have to tell to actually make a very important point about the border. >> is this the price that one has to pay? hey, if she's on the vp shortlist to put herself out there like this. >> yeah. i mean, if they offer

the opportunity, how many people do you think would pass up the chance if given to be the person to sit in se didn't give that speech. now granted, given that speech, n word argue in favor of passing, i agree >> most people pass up their level of exposure, right? >> you know what's funny? so newt gingrich, friend of mine, i had a show at this network with newt gingrich. i know newt gingrich really well. >> he loves to talk. in fact, he wasn't a great host because he's a much better guest. he doesn't want to ask questions. he wants to answer them he was asked by a journalist to comment on katie britt. he said no comment. i've never heard him say those words in his life. i think that's how bad she did. and just days earlier, he had been saying she could be on online for the vetoes lie, everything you really does, everything you need to know as the the money. both of you stick around. we have more for you later on in the show, but next for us, donald trump and alexandria ocasio-cortez lining up on the same issue. will explain plus breaking news

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>> this situation with wolf blitzer tomorrow with six on cnn and what would truly be an extraordinary move, >> one of america's most popular apps may be banned by the united states government. the house set to pass a bill banning the use of tiktok unless the app's parent company severs ties it's with china. security officials have been warning that tiktok poses a national security threat. but

this legislation is making for some strange bedfellows in washington, for instance, donald trump and some of the so-called squad members, including alexandria ocasio-cortez our against the ban. others include elon mask and vivek ramaswamy. now it's worth noting that trump has actually flip-flopped on this issue since he was the one who initially tried to ban the app when he was president through an executive order that would later be struck down. now, on the other side of it is my johnson, the speaker of the house, the bipartisan group of lawmakers who introduced the bill and several conservative groups who are all for the ban, stuck in the middle. some senators who want to water down the legislation and what about president biden? >> well, >> he says that he's going to sign the bill if congress ends up passing it, that contradicts his own campaign, which just recently launched a tiktok channel last month joining me now is democratic congressman

jared moskowitz of florida congressman. thanks for being here. you've had an interesting evolution on the issue of tiktok. you are now in favor of a band, but previously you were not why the change of opinion? >> thanks, abby. thanks for having me. >> yeah. i mean, look, i think the evidence has come out at its and we're going to be briefed on it and you saw the vote come out of committee in a bipartisan fashion. last week, 50 to zero i, can. tell you 50 to zero votes that on a bipartisan basis out of committee happened so far and few between and then all of congress is going to get a briefing from intelligence officials next week. and so look, this bill is not a ban of tiktok but what we'll do is it will force the sale to a us company to get chinese influence out from underneath of tiktok. one of the things that convinced me is talking to

parents of kids that are on this, like digital fentanyl. and another thing that convinced me was after the october 7 war to see all of the misinformation that was being spread on tiktok intentionally meant to divide the american public and cause more dissension here at home. >> yeah, i mean, look, i understand you probably are going to get some briefings that have more detail, but i do wonder, i mean, how how you know, the difference between what is intentionally meant to divide and what divides because it is divisive. and secondly, the precedent here does that worry you at all forcing company to sell itself to a domestic entity? couldn't just be weaponized against american company, companies overseas >> well, first of all, i think this is really a first step. i don't think this is the only thing and i like you said, i don't think it can just be only tiktok. i think we need to

look at data transfer from companies over here to china. there's a number of those done by a number of companies. also, i think you bring up a good point. i think if the united states does do this, we should expect china could retaliate with us companies doing business in china. but look, i look forward to the briefing i am leaning towards voting for the bill. i do think it's come time to start putting our foot down with how these algorithms are feeding whether it's information and but with an intent, i think to cause problems here at home try to divide the american people to try to get as fighting amongst ourselves so that we have less time to deal with adversaries. i think that's something china and russia both want to see happen should the biden campaign get off tiktok, then yeah, look of the president is going to sign the bill. i think he should get off of it until until the sale happens. >> so i want to switch gears because we just learned that

robert hur, who he is a special counsel, who was looking into president biden's handling of classified documents. he's scheduled now to testify for the judiciary committee, we are now learning that he actually has left his official post at the justice department. he will testify tomorrow as a private citizen. the key thing here is that hur was criticized for how he characterized president biden's mental acuity does that fact that he is going to testify tomorrow as a private citizen, not as a department of justice employee. it tell you anything about what his testimony might be before this committee? >> well, look, i don't know what the cv has anything surprised the committee within store. i mean, look, he ultimately concluded president biden did not do anything wrong with the classified documents. instead decided to put the

president on a couch and become america's psychologist and so i imagine what republicans are going to do tomorrow, and they are going to use robert hur and you know what he may go along with it. he may want to be used of this idea of trying to show that president biden is too old or at times has had gas that they're going to try to exploit. i think the state of the union put pumped a bit, put picked a big hole in. it. in that theory that republicans want to continue to push out there, that the president, not whether there is too old. i mean, every day we see president trump have the same same sort of gaffe, whether he calls his wife mercedes or he says president biden is going to start world war ii, which happened in the '40s, or he, mrs. up, the leaders of hungary and turkey. so look, both of these gentlemen are old. both of these guys have made gaffes before verbally and so you know, but that's what republicans are going to try to do here with robert hur. he's

not going to give them anything on these classified documents. and in fact, we just heard that employee number five in the trump classified document issue has just come out and talked about how they intentionally try to keep those documents a from the justice department. and so the evidence on trump is overwhelming, but my guess is tomorrow her is just going to try to tell the american people the same thing that republicans are trying to do is say that president biden doesn't have the mental acuity, but the state of the union prove that completely wrong. >> before you go, i want to get your take on an issue of real importance in the middle east. president biden made some comments today when it comes to israel and the war in gaza, he says that there are no plans for that quote, come to jesus meeting with netanyahu he actually referenced that during the hot mic moment while he was leaving the state of the union

last week is that something that you think needs to happen a come to jesus moment with this government in israel about how this war is being conducted? >> well, we'll look, i think that's happening. i think the united states and the state department and the white house are having those conversations privately. in fact, we know not just israel, but its arab neighbors are having conversations publicly and conversations privately. and those those conversations get said to us different ways. but but behind the scenes, things i think are very, very different. so i think the white house is having those conversations. i think the president was clear that he's not going to abandon israel, but that doesn't mean that the president isn't going to push really hard for humanitarian aid and is doing something about humanitarian aid. i have said from the very beginning that you can be for prosecuting the war against hamas and the for humanitarian

aid. and what a passive that needs to be the united states's position. >> what about rafah? i mean, the president says that invading rafah would be a red line. is that the right position >> well, look, i'm concerned about rafah. obviously israel needs to do everything it can to make sure that civilians are protected. but we know at this juncture the united states has proposed along with other arab neighbors, has proposed a temporary ceasefire. we know that hamas continues to reject it. so if hamas continues to reject it, then israel has the right to continue to prosecute the war against hamas. so abby, what i would like when looking to stay lading even if it means invading a part of gaza where there are over 1 million civilians and really nowhere for them to go well, look, israel needs to do everything it can to protect them. but unfortunately, yeah, because otherwise, you're giving hamas all the leverage. if hamas can

decline a ceasefire and the war isn't going to move forward, then win for hamas. and so the only thing that's going to get hamas to the table, unfortunately, at this moment is more military pressure because the diplomatic pressure on hamas, whether that's from qatar or other nations in the area is not working. they've rejected two of these temporary cease-fires. i am for the temporary ceasefire. i am for the release of the hostages in exchange and to get more palestinian prisoners out. he's also part of the deal. i think that's acceptable to the majority of people in congress. what's not acceptable is to let hamas continue to reject a ceasefire, but then say israel can't do anything about that. >> all right, congressman jared moskowitz. thank you very much for giving us your take on all of that. appreciate it. >> thanks, abby >> a biden effigy, punched and beaten dring a republican fund-raiser, plus more on our breaking news tonight it trump employee number five. in that

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champions after the game, both coaches had wildly different responses to that fight their emotions so far sometimes these things for us playing a part in that's not what we the one most to see that ugliness. but i'm tell you this i wish she would have pushed angel reese don't push a kid that you 68 don't push somebody that little. that was uncalled for in my opinion, let those two girls that were jhoan, let them go added >> all right. well, sports commentator front of the show, jamal hill reacted to all of this and to lsu's coaches, kim mulkey, these comments writing on x. now, if dawn staley would have said this back with me now is s e cupp and bomani jones. what about that yeah, maybe if

dawn staley had said that, what would have had probably wouldn't have gotten over to say way, but it was impose a fifth. we'd all be drug, right light. >> the way that i look at that is i think dawn staley immediately really recognized that she couldn't get away with kim mulkey could get away with it. kim mulkey was simply advocating for the fair one. i advocate for the fed wouldn't let these two people should too fair with everybody else to stay away from it does not a big controversial opinion, but yeah, there's different things that different people can get away with saying it's a bit problematic that he goes that way. but i didn't think that kim mulkey said in this role we've got a state of affairs that aid necessarily for like dawn staley decided to go the other way, probably because she understood well, maybe a double-stuffed also her player through somebody down to the ground. right. like once that happens, i don't know if kim mulkey ready they want to her play as brothers had hopped over the joint and then recognize as they're jumping onto the court was probably a bad idea. like i enjoy watching people fight in sports. i hate the fact that it turns into serious conversation with you bodies, okay, so this is exactly the point, right?

people watch sports, men, sports to see the players fights sometimes why don't we care when women do it? >> that's a great question and it's the question i had. i don't i don't want to college basketball, but i'm a big baseball fan for brawls all the time. the dug-outs get cleared out, people charged the mound or we upset because it's women are we upset because their students i'm not really sure but this is not a rear a weird thing to see when you're watching sports. this happens not to be fair. it means basketball, fighting has treated very similarly to the way they did happen right? now, the variable tends to be race as much as anything else though i do think as women's sports become more high profile to gender, lma comes in and this gets interesting and we're going to learn a lot about the way that we, this really reacted things right? like that's the part that we're going to get. but i'm telling sports fans want to know more than anything else that people care and whether you like it or not, people shooting a fair one carry, it's a privacy energy that you're going to bring to the game, but also just for a moment what a great thing for

women's sports that we care >> horses, getting its moment and that's across multiple sports. and look, you're on a big platform and this is ncw tournament is as big as it gets for women's college basketball, right? big spotlight and everyone is tuning in. we're talking about it tonight on cnn, because people are caring and ultimately that is good. i'm not sure this is how you want women or people to care about your sport, but we can deletion is exactly how exactly the way that you wouldn't get it this cells at does it. these are names that people recognize, like the women's game freedom to fight. >> but >> also, i think it's important, i think last year wasn't inflection point where the popularity the women's tournament, the caitlin clark experience. and as that built in, then the final with lsu went and everything that came around that that was a point at which the interest in women's college us basketball to the casual observer, i think past that demands, i know far more about the women in college

basketball than i know about the man in college basketball at this point like this is big and now having stories are rounded, they go beyond just any one small thing that's where this gets to, where it gets that's part of you become a fan, getting to know personality as you've got to show your personality, to get to know exactly right, exactly right. i see cop and bomani jones great conversation. thank you both >> start your day with nature. >> the number one pharmacist recommended >> vitamin supplement brand >> the whole breed ready to swap ready to state the defiant power-packed, all new hybrid electric dodge hornet rt performance, electrified ma'am, can help me get weight loss medication

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