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today on "inside politics," under the cover of darkness or in the plain blinding light of day. the georgia indictment puts a familiar question on donald trump's plate. just when and how will he turn himself in? plus joe biden tries to conquer confusion. in just a few hours, the president will use the white house as a stage to explain to voters that his economic plans one year after becoming law have worked. and the politics of mr. polite. tim scott uses iowa as a test kitchen to see if voters just might prefer a happy warrior over a form er president. let's go behind the headlines and "inside politics." up first today, donald trump and his 18 codefendants space an august 25th surrender deadline. the sheriff says they can turn
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themselves in any time between now and then no matter rain, nor sleet nor snow nor time of day. between now and then, expect legal maneuvers to muck up the case. nick valencia is live for us. so far, no sign of any of the defendants. >> reporter: that's right. according to the sheriffs office, none of the defendants have turns themselves in. that was as of this morning. put we do know a little details as far as how the former the president is going to turn himself in. the fulton county sheriff saying he's not going to treat the former president or the co-defendants any different than anyone else who gets indicted, which means they will be mug shot and fingerprinted through the jail. we're also getting a taste of the defense strategy. his former chief of staff filing a formal petition trying to get a change of venue moving it from
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state court to federal court, arguing any federal official accused of a criminal activity operating as a federal official should be in federal court. this is what they are saying in part of that filing. saying, quote, nothing mr. meadows he's alleged to have done is criminal, arranging meetings, contacting state officials, vuting a state government building and setting up a phone call for the president, one would expect a chief of staff to the president of the united states to do these sorts of things meadow has been charged with racketeering and violation of the oath of public office. he and his team say they are going to file a formal client complaint, but this matter is currently in the hands of the u.s. district judge here in georgia. >> nick v lanes ya, thank you so much. here to share their insights is elliot williams, evan perez, katelyn polantz and former u.s. attorney michael moore, who is also joining us. michael, i want to go out to you really quickly first and talk
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about what trump's vender might possibly look like. you're down there and know how all that works. this is both ordinary and extraordinary in a lot of ways. >> it is. i'm glad to be with you. typically when somebody surrenders, they go to the jail and there's a process and give background information. there's the usual fingerprints. you have seen it on tv. a mug shot is taken. i really think probably the sheriffs bravado is misplaced. i hope he will rethink how he's doing this idea we're going to treat a former president because of all the security can concerns and everything else, we're going to treat the former president like everybody else. they are not many times the courthouse has been cordoned off. he's already being treated different ily. the mug shot, there are more pictures of the president you could want, so there would be nothing compelling him to have a
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mug shot. i would also have some concern given the leak and the error that came out of the court, which essentially detailed and outlined the expected charges, i would be worried about any claim that a mug shot could be protected from ending up online and made buffoon ri. it's a standard process to surrender. that will happen. but there's some things that should be done under these circumstances. >> evan, you have now been here for all of these other indictments, the three other additional indictments. there were certain concessions made,. they are working with the secret service. do you can want that in this case? >> they will have to. this is photo any other defendant, despite what the sheriff is saying. what's going to be interesting is the federal system and the
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new york system all have the same requirements. you take shot and did the fingerprinting. when he went into the custody of the marshals, one of the things they did not do was take a mug shot. one of the reasons why was he's one of the most recognizable people, the fear of him being able to get away is pretty minimal. and secondly, the federal system doesn't release mugshots any way, so that's another thing. but the other part that i think people don't talk about is that trump and his campaign have openly said that one of the things i they want to do is use the mug shot to fundraise. and i think they don't want to play into that. that's what's guided everything. we'll see whether georgia d decides. the sheriff says if he's ordered otherwise, he will follow those rules. the judge could say something, the d.a. could change the rules, but it plays into what trump has
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been trying to do with this. the former president wants to make this a show. he wants to make this as lucrative for his fundraising as possible. >> and elliot, i want to read from john malcolm's column from the "washington post." he said, what about the right when you believe allegations to be true or you have evidence to support the allegations to seek redress? all of a sudden, they are perpetrating a conspiracy. i think that's astonishingly dangerous. kind of having a different opinion than we have heard from so many people. you're also a former prosecutor yourself. >> every defendant is entitled to have his day in court. and challenge the charges that are brought against him. i don't think anybody credibly is saying that the president does not have an opportunity to seek redress and challenge questions that may come up in the context of the court. mark meadows filed a motion to
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move this to federal court. the president will likely move to dismiss the case and they will litigate these very complicated and very fair questions of law. it's very easy to sort of wag fingers and say that everything has been criminalized now and the former president is being targeted. >> what he's getting at is the idea that trump and his allies didn't have the right to challenge the election results, which they did. and they lost every single challenge that they mounted. >> they didn't take some of the opportunities that they could have had to challenge the results in the ways that are set up to do that. >> the claim what he was doing, his initial duties wasn't calling the justice department to pressure them to look into italian satellites changing their votes. that's beyond what normally happens with a chief of staff. >> and let's talk about what trump is promising on monday. this news conference, he wants to present this information that he says is going to exonerate
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him. the"the new york times" said th report in question according to people familiar with the matter is a document of more than 100 pages that was compiled by a trump communications aid, who is often described as among of the true believers that the 2020 election was stolen from him through widespread fraud. so this had is the document he wants to put out. here's his former attorney, and then i want to get your thoughts on that. >> there's a good chance whatever document he produces ends up as evidence against him. it could end up as the basis for an obstruction count against the author because it's likely to be fiction and solely for the purpose of contaminating the jury pool. >> what do you think about that? >> ty kolb is a really good lawyer. i believe it when he says that could become evidence in the
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case. but one of the things, you're even seeing trump doing this in court in some ways. we don't know exactly what he's going to be putting out on monday, but he's still fending off lawsuits related to january 6th. and just recently, there was a filing where his lawyers were trying to get the lawsuit put on hold. so procedural things, but they tucked in a paragraph talking about how donald trump was the batts yan of order on january 6th. he was the one that wanted public safety. he wanted to make sure law enforcements was ready for what would happen that day. and that's just not what happened. so you're starting to even see these things come into how he's litigating in court. he will probably be doing this in his criminal cases, too, trying to say i'm the one that wanted to secure the election. i'm the one that wanted no violence on january 6th. but evidence is evidence. and we will see evidence on
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camera, hopefully, in georgia as that case goes forward, and we'll hear it at a trial in federal court in d.c. >> facts are facts. elliot, i see you scribbling notes. i feel like you want to add something. >> i like my sharpies. those are all valid points for the president to attempt to make because they are defenses to whether he had the intent to commit the offenses. from where you and i and everyone sits, that's what happens in litigation. which is charges are brought against a defendant. he says either i didn't do it or these are the things i did and this is why i did them. and that's perfectly fair game, even if it smells fishy from even a common sense view. >> but it's up to the jury. it's up to the jury of peers who will be seated in this case. i want to get back out to michael before we go. rudy giuliani is one of the co-conspirators named in the indictment. "the wall street journal" saying
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mr. rico just got rico'ed. we also heard from him, and i want to play that clip. >> this is a ridiculous application of the racketeering statute. there's probably no one that knows it better than i do, probably some that know it as well. i was the first one to use it. this is not meant for election disputes. this is ridiculous what she's doing. >> it is ironic that he himself used that in another life and is now charged with it in this one. do you feel like this is the appropriate use of rico here. >> i think it's a legitimate use. there's no question the statute was intended for mob cases and drug cartel cases, drug distribution organizations, those types of criminal enterprises. but it can be used for this, and that's why georgia that is statute. it's been used in other cases in
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georgia. it was used against some school teachers in fulton county. so this is not a necessarily novel approach. it is novel to have a presidential campaign, people so high up in a political party associated with this idea that they are a corrupt organization. and whether or not a jury will go that far, we don't know. this will be the chaos of the case beginning forward and how that plays out. >> just so many factors here. thank ss to you, michael and to you here in the studio, great to see you. former vice president mike pence weighs in for the first time on trump's georgia indictment. does he echo his rival's accusations of the weaponization of government? or is he charting his own course. details, next. with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary spraying flonase daily gives s you long-lasting,
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today former vice president mike pence breaking his silence on the sweeping indictment out of georgia accusing his former boss of trying to steal the 2020 election in the state. >> despite what the former president has said for more than two a half years, and continue to insist at this hour, the georgia election was not stolen and i had no right to overturn the election on january 6th. >> but his rivals are singing a different tune defending the front runner and blaming the system. >> what we need to do is get a president that can beat biden and end the weaponization of federal power through the doj and fbi. >> we see the legal system being weaponized against political opponents. that's unacceptable. >> these are politicized persecutions prosecution.
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>> here to share their reporting is jeff czeleny. great to have you here. jeff, weaponization, we heard it over and over again from so many of the republican people seeking the republican nomination. we hear it from house republicans and off the hill. is it that something that is politically savvy? and does it depend on what you're talking about if if you're talking about a primary voter or a general voter? >> absolutely. with the exception of mike pence there and chris christie and asa hutchinson, no one else is really speaking out about this with the inclusion of nikki haley. she says enough of the drama. that's how far she goes. everyone else talks about the weaponization of the doj. that's simply what the republican base wants to hear. it's what they see on the channels they watch. but there's some risks in this. i asked a republican voter late last week in iowa what he
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thought of the indictments. he's a trump supporter. he said i asked that question and it's all made up. so if trump's rivals are saying this, it's the permission structure to not see trump in a different way. we'll see how this goes. at this point, they are just singing from the same songbook. once this becomes a trial and other things, there are many other republicans speaking out like jeff duncan and others in georgia saying this election was not stolen. so it's going to get messy for them. i think they are losing an opportunity here in some respects to make that argument to the part of the republican base who want to turn the page to give them a reason to do so. >> there's a lot of ways to do it and a hot lot of nuanced ways to do it. we made a list of different ways that former president trump actually weaponized the government. here are some issues here that trump pr preessures the justice
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department to investigate hillary. where a are all the arrests? 2022, john kelly says trump wanted to get the irs on james comey and also in 2022, cassidy hutchinson was one of the witnesses trump sought to influence. the irony is thick. we see this a lot with trump and his world. it's almost saying it's like projecting out what maybe they have been doing on to other people. >> and the argument from trump and his allies isn't that the department of justice shouldn't be weaponized. it's saying we should weaponize the justice department against liberals. he says i'm going to be your candidate of are the ri bugs and go after the biden crime family and the democrats that have been weaponizing government for a long time. this is a revenge strategy he's taking. it seems to be what animates the base of his party. it seems to be why you're hearing this from other republicans because they know that a number of voters within the republican party are animated by this. they are energized by the idea
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we could use government for our end and our enemies and trump did that during his first term. he's pledging to do it openly if he wins another term. >> it is interesting there's this undercurrent of using the underdog. now we should turn around and weaponize it against our enemies. >> that's one of the reasons why president biden has been so quiet on the issue, but it's a lose-lose situation for the white house. on one hand, he's trying to let republicans speak for themselves. the law speak for itself. but the oxygen is being taken out of the room, and the president has no message on this. on the other hand, if he does decide to weigh in, he's going to be seen as putting him thumb on the scale and influencing the outcome of this. essentially, being seen as having a chip on his shoulder about the 2020 election. if he comes out and says, what mike pence has said, what brian kemp has said, that the georgia
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election was not stolen, that's being seen as him revisiting the facts on his own. so the white house is trying to stay out of this, but to that point, the former president, the base is animated by this, but i think independents, polling is starting to show they are viewing this as a very serious matter. their trump fatigue is getting a little stronger. and while the base could be animated and the iowa voter is animated, when you have mainstream republicans like brian kemp and jeff duncan in georgia, who are essentially putting this fracture down the middle of the republican party, it's going to be impossible for president trump to win a state like that in 2024, and independents in other swing states, which both of you have traveled to, are starting to feel that fatigue too. >> let's talk about mike pence for a second. he is a in a unique position as playing this key role in the federal indictment in january
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6th was there. and at the center of all of this, we have really seen him kind of arrive a the this evidolution of his messaging on this. where now he keeps saying a version of he theed me to overturn the constitution and anyone that does that and puts themselves before the constitution doesn't have a right to be president. we had an interesting headline from the atlantic. the agony of mike pence, why does he think the people who wanted to kill him will vote for him. >> i'm not sure he does,s but there's at least-of the republican party, perhaps more, that wants to turn the page from donald trump. so that is the group of a republicans that pence is going after. some of them aren't thrilled. but what he's doing is speaking truth to power. i was standing in an audience when someone said why did you commit treason. he welcomes those questions and
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the chance to explain this. he didn't really at the time, and you wonder would all of this been different if he was a leading voice on this, but on the debate stage next week in milwaukee, he will be talking about this. but he's one of the few who is calling it like it is now. most of his rivals aren't. >> it is interesting to see where he is on all that and where he has evolved on that. it seemed like he was hesitant to really go there until this indictment. stay with us. it's been one year since the biden's landmark inflation reduction act, but voters still don't know what's actually in the legislation. can the administration sell the plan before it's too late? we'll talk about it. rude. who are you? i'm an investor in a fund that helps a advance innovative sports tech like thiss smart fitness mirror. i'm also mr. leg day...1989! anyone can become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq, a fund that gives you access to nasdaq-100 innovations.
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just this morning, the white house announced president biden will head to hawaii monday. while there, he will view firsthand the destruction caused by the massive wildfires that killed 106 people. but first today, a momentous occasion for the white house as president biden takes a victory lap scelebrating the one year anniversary of the $750 billion inflation reduction act. the president hoping to convince voters that the so-called bidenomics is work ing for them but it's been a hard sell. we're going to go white house correspondent arlette sooinz. what's the messaging strategy?
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>> reporter: the white house is hoping to use this to not only celebrate that moment, but to educate voters on the benefits of it. but it comes a at a time when many americans are skeptical or unaware of somg of the benefits of that historic climate tax and health care legislation that biden signs into law. recent polling that 7 in 10 americans had heard little or nothing at all about what ex exactly that piece of legislation entailed. and that is why you have seen the white house really engage in this sales pitch over the past few weeks. president traveling the country to tout not just the benefits of the inflation reduction act, but pieces of legislation like the infrastructure law, the chips science act as well, as they are try ining to show americans tha the steps that the president has taken are trying to pay off a bit economically for them. it comes at a time when the president's approval rating of the handling of the economy sits at 37%. but the white house has seen
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some signs of positive indicators like consumer sentiment. you'll see the inflation numbers, while they are significantly down from last year, they finally did tick up in july. but this really presents one of the challenges for president biden heading into this campaign. kitchen table issues, the economy, are still top of mind for so many voters. now he has the task of trying to sell this to people as 2024 quickly approaches. >> certainly true. arlette, thank you so much. my panel is back with me to discuss all of this. 71% of americans say they don't know anything about this or know very little about the inflation reduction act. how tough is this for biden and his campaign? >> it's very tough. part of it goes back to when they were initially trying to sell the inflation reduction act. there was worry pumping $750 billion into the economy would make inflation worse. at that time, the white house and economists said this is going to be money that's spent over the course of ten years.
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so it's going to trickle into the economy. it's not going to rush in all at once. but that fact alone means that a lot of americans won't see the benefits of this immediately. they won't see it in their hometowns before it's time to go to the polls. that's going to be a problem for the white house. i do hear from executives that it has caused this boom in private invest mment, but sewin the seeds of that investment is very different from having the projects finished where voters can see them. and so this is going to be a really long time coming. >> people are going to be wait ing and waiting. they are going to have to sell this. it's interesting we had this quote from senator cramer to punch bowl. he said i know you can't pee on people's backs and convince them that it's raining. they are living whatever it is they are living and telling them something different than that generally doesn't work. some information from bank of america shows some of the top lines, the good, positive top
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lines from the flags reduction act. clean energy projects, $132 billion in private investments, 186,000 jobs created. but the fact what we were saying, what people are living and seeing in front of them here and now is what matters. >> you have the numbers that show pretty strong numbers for the president. the unemployment rate below 4% for such a long time. you have new job creation, low jobless claims, all the numbers, which showed in sort of a normal environment that things are going well. when you lock at what people are experiencing, especially inflation at a i high rate over the past year plus, it does show that people are feeling something different than what the statistics are showing. inflation is such a personal thing for families and such a personal thing people see at the gas pump and grocery store. even as inflation is not a big of a problem, people are still struggling to make ends meet.
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as much as they want to show the economy is doing well, people are feeling a different experience than that. it's hard for hum to sell his bills as a result of that. >> bridging that gap. he did say he wished he'd call the ira something else. it has less to do with reducing inflation than it does with dealing with provide ing alternatives that generate economic growth. where is inflation as a political issue right now? it is coming down. and clearly, when they named this last year, it was top of mind. they needed to seem like they were doing something to attack it. >> it was named in part because of joe manchin. to get his vote for it, it was name this. so when i saw he said that last week in salt lake city, i thought i wonder if anyone is having any second guessing about bidenomics. sort of branding the economy a year from now will that be a good idea. you own it regardless.
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the president cannot control all of the economy, cannot control gas prices, but they are blamed for it and take credit for it. all that is fair regardless of who is in office. i do think inflation is cooling. there's no doubt about it. but gas prices now are ticking up a bit. all that matters is next summer. the economy next summer, what are voters going to see. people do not know the benefits of the infrastructure act or the inflation reduction act. that's one of the challenges of these huge programs, but they needed to do that to get the votes in the congress. so they need to unpack this a little more. that's what he will be doing today, saying exactly what do you get in this. but the naming of it is interesting as we look ahead to bidenomics. >> inflation existed and continues to exist. sol categories have fallen, but stuff is still more expensive. stay with us. we'll be right back.
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100%. >> how many of you love senator scott? >> we're off to a good start. >> step two, stay on message and rely on a stump speech light on grievance and heavy on hope. >> i believe america can do for anyone what she's done for me. my time in office on restoring hope, creating opportunities and protecting the america we love. >> cnn's is in des moines for us. is tim scot not only making his mark, but gaining ground there? >> reporter: it's clear to see that senator scott is having a moment here on the campaign trail. it's one thing to talk about high favorability ratings.
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it's another to actually see it playing out on the fwround. so many well wishers at that iowa state fair. even people that don't support him, so someone that said they were a democrat, another person said they were a trump supporter, him having warm moments with them as well. he also campaigned in cambridge, iowa, about 45 minutes outside of des moines. this beautiful place surrounded by corn fields and he was resiting parts of his campaign ads to this conservative audience. and they parodied back lines from if his ads to him. so that's how well they know him here and have seen those television ads. he joked with them that the money is being well spent here upwards of $5 million on ads. listen, senator scott is a disciplined campaigner. you hear him talking to conservatives in the state about backing the blue, a very pro law enforcement message. we don't hear him talk about his criminal justice reform with the crowd. he also is reticent to go after trump directly or any of the other republican hopefuls.
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we don't see him sort of getting in the mud here. next week presents a huge opportunity for him on that debate stage. he will have the chance to introduce himself to more conservatives across the country. and his team has long maintained the more people get to know him, the more they like him. time will tell. >> yes, it will. eva, thank you so much. our reporters are back around the table to talk about this. i want to put up the polling we have out of iowa. i think it is important to look specifically at iowa. you see that tim is polling at 9% versus 3% nationally. so you were there over the weekend just a few days ago. what was your sense on the ground? >> one of the reasons he's doing better in iowa, he's spending money there. he's been on the air introducing himselves through ads. that's one of his advantages. he has a lot of money in his campaign accounts leftover from his race in the senate last year in south carolina.
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and he is sunny side up. there's a sense of optimism that he projects. any grievances towards president biden, any grievances towards democrats, and he's talking about drawing distinctions, he has the stage to himself. he was at the fair going around yesterday with senator joni ernst, very popular in iowa. the governor is very popular in iowa. whenever i look at polls, i'm reminded what the governor told me last week. she said, look, it's very early. do not trust polls now. surprises happen in iowa. and i i think this is his opportunity to introduce himself. i'm not surprised he's not going negative on former president trump. that's not how he wants to introduce himself. he wants to introduce himself in a positive way. what happens at the debate next week when people start drawing lines with him, that's the question how he responds to some of this. >> if he will stick with what has been his hallmark, which is so positive and optimistic. you mentioned the television ads. he spent $6.5 million on ads. the pac has $36.9 million
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reserved. he's got a lot of money. $21 million cash on hand. that's a way to get into people's homes and talk to them directly and you turn on the television in iowa and you're going to see that. do you think there's an appetite for a happy warrior? >> there's the paid immemedia, then there's also the earned media. he's trying to carve out for himself space in the earned media by having a more uplifting story to tell. by not tussling with donald trump, not making his campaign about donald trump. i thought it was interesting he did break with the governor of florida over the teaching of slavery in florida schools. he used that as an opportunity to create a little earned media, but for the most part, he's had a positive message talking about his family story in this country. i think there's an appetite for something that's different than the grievance-filled campaign of trump and even ron desantis, but it remains to be seen how much
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that will play in a primary versus a general election where that kind of campaigning seems to have more success. >> and obviously the biden campaign is amping up. they have run against donald trump before. ron desantis, we know that kamala harris has been going at desantis. do you get any sense about how they might respond to somebody that's campaigning this way? >> it certainly makes it harder, especially given the fact that president biden bills himself as a bipartisan. senator scott is someone he has worked with before. going against someone like that is difficult, but it's still early. it's very unclear that president biden would even have to respond to any of that messaging. i think to jeff's point, the debate stage is going to be critical. tim is not the only one who is trying to borrow from this playbook. former vice president mike pence is also trying to polite his way to the top. can they outpolite each other. who is going to distinguish
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now to new reporting on the negotiation over former president donald trump's surrender in georgia. cnn's alayna treene is joining
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us now. alayna, what are we learning? >> right. well, jessica, we're learning that donald trump's lawyers are currently in ongoing negotiations with the fulton county district attorney's office about his potential surrender. he has until august 25th. that's next friday. at noon to surrender before the court. as is the same with the other 18 co-defendants listed in the indictment. but from my conversations with donald trump's team, they say that they're currently trying to land on a date and that those negotiations are continuing. they also tell me that they expect that it will happen next week, although again, this is all still fluid at the moment, jessica. >> and alayna, with he do have this republican debate next wednesday. is there any sense -- and he's supposed to have this press conference on monday. is there any sense about how that all fits in to their schedule? >> well, it's a very busy schedule as you just pointed out. yes, monday he will be holding that, quote, major news conference is what he said on truth social yesterday at his golf club in bedminster, new
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jersey. wednesday is the debate. from all my conversations so far with trump's team the early indications are that donald trump will not be appearing. again, that could change. he has not officially or formally said he will not attend. but that's what we're looking at. and it could very much be a collision between these two major events. of course all of the 2024 republican candidates expecting to go to that debate or most of them, those who have qualified, but maybe not donald trump. and at the same time we could be seeing this surrender kind of go up against that very big day next week. >> yeah, absolutely. it could collide right into one another. lastly before we let you go, oftentimes when we're seeing this in previous indictments he fund-raises off of this. >> right. >> he really tries to maximize this politically. do you expect to see that happening again? >> definitely, jessica. i mean, as much as donald trump does not want to be indicted, i know from my series of conversations over the past several months that this is something that he is angry about, he is frustrated about,
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but at the same time his team does recognize the political advantages of these indictments and so they are leaning into it in some respect. they are fund-raising off of it. you'll see him fund-raise off of this latest indictment. and it does give him, you know, a boost at least in the short term with many of his voters. from my conversations with donald trump's most staunchest allies and people when i attend rallies, when i talk to them, his supporters, they tell me that they believe he did nothing wrong. they use the same rhetoric that the former president does in arguing that he is a victim of political persecution. that's what many of his supporters believe. and so that's something that donald trump's team is leaning into. but again, this is his republican base that we're talking about. these are primary voters. a big question is if donald trump continues to do well, if he succeeds in potentially getting the nomination, that's a far way off, how could this play in a general? and that is something that his team is also thinking about, jessica. >> all right. alayna treene there with the news that trump's lawyers are negotiating with the fulton
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county d.a. as they try to figure out what he'll surrender himself before that deadline of next friday, august 25th. alayna, thanks so much for that reporting. we appreciate it. >> thank you. and a quick programming note for you. "the whole story" breaks down the details of the criminal indictment of donald trump in georgia. "the whole story with anderson cooper" airing sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. and thanks so much for joining "inside politics." "cnn news central" starts right after the break. make it outta sight ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a thing g go right ♪ ♪ it takes two to make it outta sightht ♪ ♪ one, two, get loose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ stay two nights and get a $ 50 best western gift card. book now at bestwestern.com. somedays, i cover up because of my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now i feel free to bare my skin, thanks to skyrizi. ♪(uplifting mus)♪
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