saw by that one judge in that one court in that one state that's not america. good morning , everyone that is who you're hearing from there. the health and human services secretary javier becerra weighing into dana bash because the judge's ruling in texas is now set off a major battle over abortion pills in this battle could reach the supreme court. i just talked to a republican member of congress who says the fda should ignore the judge's ruling. what happens with that? plus the pentagon is trying to figure out how highly sensitive classified documents about the war in ukraine leaked online. and ukrainian children held against their will for months by the russians, finally reuniting with their families look at those images. their harrowing journey home ahead. can't wait to see that. but this morning we're going to begin with the pentagon scrambling to do damage control after highly classified documents about the war in ukraine leaked online photos of the documents started appearing on social media in recent weeks. they contain sensitive intelligence, including ukrainian troop

numbers and weaknesses as they gear up for a major counter. offensive. a source close to the ukrainian president vladimir zelensky, telling cnn that ukraine has already altered some of its military plans because of this leak. another source says that the crumpled documents that look like they were shoved in somebody's pocket and removed from a secure location. just department has now launched an investigation. there is major concern that america's intelligence sources deep inside the russian government. might be in danger or cut off because of the leak. serious implications here. cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analysts is mr john miller. he joins us now, john. good morning to you. morning how does it leak like this happened? what happened? i mean in the intelligence community, and i remember this when i was in the director of national intelligence office, you know you go into your morning cash in the emails and to get up to date just the way we do. there's a

lot of news to catch up on a different documents. the difference is, they're all top secret, or at least secret. this seems to be from the joint chiefs of staff briefing. this is a document i used to get. and the good news about it is it was a little bit of one stop shopping. it was a place where they called together all the most relevant. um most sharply, you know, pointed military intelligence that you would need to know that day the worst thing to leak right for that day, and the problem is, there's all so long term intelligence in there as well. strategic intelligence. it appears that somebody printed this and removed it and photographed it somewhere else, and then posted it. what point does this become a criminal investigation? is it looking into this? does that mean it's a criminal investigation? totally caitlin, cause you don't know where to even begin. i mean, the minute you have a purpose for it other than it's meant for that's a crime. the minute you remove it from the facility in an

unauthorized way. that's a crime . the minute you disclose it publicly, that's a crime. there's a stack of crimes here, and people have done serious. prison time for things just like this. one of the points you make is that it's actually not that hard to pull this off. you just explain how but the fact that, um belling cat, the research group, um, who also worked on tracking down navalny, etcetera. you know, they're just stunned at how this trove of documents could be online for a month, plus. and no one knows. uh that's the thing about the internet, which is it's bottomless, its boundless and you know, you never do know what's out there. if you if you dig around the idea that, uh, that there's all these deep fakes out there. i mean, you'd run into something like this in the first thing you would ask is, is it really i think the real shocker was when people said, hey, this stuff that's floating around. it appears to be real. but i guess the big

question for people who don't deal with classified intelligence or this kind of information. i realize how damaging this could be, because when it comes and we you as you were noting that it's not just short term intelligence about ukraine, but that is the most pressing one. i think that people realize it's talking about troop movements is talking about ukrainian military weaknesses. it also shows just how much the u. s has penetrated russia's security service because they knew when they were going to strike certain drone facilities of ukraine's i mean to get these accesses for the united states intelligence agency requires an extraordinary amount of work and sometimes risk, especially on the human side. and to have them exposed. the other side just needs to reverse engineer this, which is where was this information available is that the place that's compromised? is there two or three of them? do we shut them down now and move to other platforms and you lose that access, let alone is there a human source at the other end of this and do we need to either

figure out who that person is and killed them or imprison them? or take a guess. and do the same to multiple people ask you before we let you go very simply. then why? why would someone do that? what is the goal here? look at the motives of the past. the goal here isn't clear. edward snowden had an ideological difference with the nsa. you know the agency he worked for chelsea. manning had her feelings about the war and what people weren't seeing. sometimes it's straight up espionage in this case because the person leaked a wide array of information, it's hard to pinpoint the motive. john miller. pleasure as always, thank you so much, just remarkable. also this morning, texas governor greg abbott says that he is asking the state's parole board to recommend a pardon. for daniel perry. you'll remember perry is the army surgeon who was just convicted of the murder on friday of killing a protester during a black lives matter. demonstration in 2020. abbott then tweeted subsequently on saturday and said, i'm working as swiftly as texas law allows regarding the pardon of sergeant

perry. cnn's ed lavandera joins us live from dallas said. i mean, i know that we have heard from the victim's family after the conviction came down now, what are they saying after governor abbott put out this statement? well it's a stunning development in the aftermath of the configure that testimony phase and in this trial and the prosecutor in austin is saying that the governor's intervention in this case at this point is quote deeply troubled. guilty of the offensive murders. austin jury convicted daniel perry on friday for the murder of garrett foster. the army sergeant broke down after hearing the verdict. perry shot and killed foster during a black lives matter protest in the summer of 2020. after the trial, foster's family expressed their relief. we're happy with the verdict. we very sorry for his family as well.

just there's no winners in this and i'm just glad it's over. but this case is far from over the very next day. texas governor greg abbott tweeted his vow to pardon perry as quickly as possible and argued texas has one of the strongest standard ground laws of self defense that cannot be nullified by a jury or a progressive district attorney. in the weeks after the murder of george floyd. black lives matter . protests erupted all over the country. garrett foster joined the protests in austin. you got it out tonight. don't let us march in the streets anymore, so i gotta practice some. some of our right. daniel perry was a rideshare driver and had just dropped off a customer near a blm protest on the downtown streets. prosecutors said perry ran a red light to turn into the crowd. this is where accounts differ at the time. some witnesses say perry deliberately instigated the altercation. the driver intentionally and

aggressively accelerated their vehicle into a crowd of people that is extremely clear. lead investigator testified. that video showed perry did not accelerate but slowed down. perry says garrett foster was carrying an assault style rifle , which he was legally allowed to do and pointed the gun at him. harry fired his handgun several times at foster killing him. perry's lawyers call it self defense. but in the trial, prosecutors pointed to texts and social media post daniel perry made that summer that suggested perry was looking for a fight. in one, perry wrote. he might kill a few people on my way to work. they are rioting outside my apartment complex. someone wrote back. can you legally do so? perry responded if they attack me or try to pull me out of my car, then yes. the texas jury didn't buy the self defense argument and issued a guilty

verdict on the murder charge. perry's lawyer says they're disappointed and will appeal. and caitlin daniel perry's cases really become a cause, among some in right wing media. in fact, fox news host tucker carlson was talking about the case friday night, urging the governor of texas to issue him a pardon in saying that people in texas no longer have the right to self defense because of this case, and it's interesting about 24 hours after tucker carlson's words on fox news friday night. is when the governor of texas made that announcement via twitter. yeah and we'll see what the state parole board decides that lavandera. thank you. it is the most consequential abortion decision since the supreme court overturned roe versus wade last year. a federal judge in texas on friday suspending the fda approval of the medication abortion pill, kristen less than an hour later, a federal judge in washington state issued a contradictory ruling. so this all means of fast track, most

likely to the supreme court. let's bring in steve vladeck, cnn legal analyst and costume for law professor at the university of texas law school. it's great to have you, um, question now. this is going to go to the supreme court, right? but uh, i was just gonna ask you can the fact joan brought up the fact that the dobbs decision overturning roe versus wade said, this is up to the states. so doesn't that make it hard for the supreme court to uphold with this texas judge just did even if they wanted to. it really does copy, and i think it's not just hard for the court to uphold. what has america ruled on friday. we might this week not be talking so much about the merits of judge cosmetics ruling but whether it should be frozen while the appeals courts the fifth circuit in new orleans and the supreme court have time to decide whether it should be upheld, and that's the critical thing that folks should be watching for today. are we going to see the justice department? are we going to see deco

laboratories, one of the sponsors of christo and ask the fifth circuit to put judge catamarans ruling on hold and poppy to do it by saying tomorrow or wednesday, so that if they don't get that kind of state from the fifth circuit there at the supreme court by wednesday or thursday, with this ruling set to go into effect otherwise at midnight friday night. but i'm just fascinated by all of this in the fifth circuit could be very challenging for them. but you're saying that supreme court could get in really, really fast. yeah i think the problem here and this is something that's a technical point. but it's one that's really important to stress at this stage. the question is not whether judge kaczmarek was right. the question is should his role and be allowed to go into effect while the courts figure out whether he was right, and that analysis puppy includes not just the substance of his rule in but who's going to be harmed? what are the balance of the equities ? that's the language the courts usually used. is it better to keep this ruling on hold to keep

my fit kristen legally approved for the duration of these appeals, or are we gonna see an attempt to actually have the rule and go into effect by saturday, at which point it would be illegal for dental laboratories to distribute preston commerce at which point we could see overnight? um pharmacists, doctors cetera, very reluctant to prescribe and dispense with kristen. those are the stakes here, and that's why i think the real story this week is going to be asking the fifth circuit first day and if they don't comply, going back to the supreme court and saying, hey, you guys said you were going to leave the question of abortion access up to the states. here is a single federal judge in amarillo, texas. nationwide policy. are you really going to allow that to happen? you touched on it, but i'd like you to elaborate a little more because in the meantime, life goes on for people. people are living their lives and their you know, they have to do what they have to do. so what happens in the meantime, as all of this is

rolling through? the courts and who's going to do it? and it's supreme court. what have you what happens in the meantime, providers are are confused and could face very dire consequences. yeah i think that the critical point is nothing has changed today. so the law is today what it was on thursday. and so if you are a medical professional, if you're a pharmacist, if you are a person suit him or on with christo, and nothing has changed to your interest your rights. the real question is what happens on saturday, and that's why people like me. that's why the justice department. everyone's eyes are on the federal appeals court in new orleans' and then the supreme court to see are they going to preserve the status quo? are we going to get to saturday and actually have a whole lot of people who all of a sudden are really unsure about what is and is not legal with guys. what you know is the most common method of abortion in the united states. you know, kristen as part of this to drug protocol . well can we talk about this? because judge shopping? this is something we've been talking about. we talked about were

trump's attorneys last week. but in this case they knew where they were filing. there was a 100% chance it was going to go to this judge who has a very clear history based on the boards that he sat on previously his other rulings of where he was going to go down on this. i mean, this is a phenomenon that we've actually seen played out a lot over the last couple of years. but this is perhaps the most glaring example that to date, you know the plaintiff in this lawsuit, the so called alliance for hippocratic medicine is this shadowy organization that was established only after the supreme court's decision last june and the dobbs in dobbs and it was established in amarillo entirely so that this lawsuit could be brought in amarillo, where it had a 100% chance of being assigned to this judge who has, as you said this history of anti abortion advocacy before he joined the federal bench. you know, this is not the first time we've seen that we've seen the state of texas take a similar tap in its 30 some odd lawsuits challenging the bio ministrations. i think we should hopefully all be able to agree.

that whatever you think of the merits of these rulings, there's something unseemly about these kinds of ideological groups being able to look at a nationwide policy like the approval of mifepristone and look at the federal bench and find the one judge among the 809 100 federal judges in the country who is most likely to side with them. that's not how our system is supposed to work. and i think, calling out for some kind of reform from congress, not because of this case, but because of the pattern and the questions it raises about the impartiality of our legal system. that's a really good point. you've been sounding the alarm on this for a long time. steve, your piece you know, months ago on this, but congress could act where you would file something couldn't just be arbitrary, for example, and as you said, compacts and in texas has brought a lot of big cases before this judge. thank you. steve vladeck will let you get back to the kiddos in the background. they see they sound like they need you, dad. um it's a monday morning, guys, you know, totally get it looks

better than my house on a monday morning. alright steve. thank you so much for let's talk more about this political follow up because this is something that washington is keeping their eyes on as well. cnn's anchor and chief court political correspondent, dana bash is here. dana you know you were talking to congresswoman from new york here, alexandra ocasio cortez over the weekend. you also talked to the secretary of health and human services department in the biden ministrations. aoc wants the administration to ignore in the fda, therefore, to ignore this ruling. this is what she told you. and the reality of our courts right now is very disturbing. this ruling is in extreme abuse of power. it is an extraordinary example of judicial overreach do not believe that the courts have the authority to have the authority over the fda that they just asserted, and i do believe that it creates a crisis should the supreme court do that? it would essentially institute national

abortion ban. and dana. we just had a republican nancy mace on from south carolina. she agrees that the fda should ignore this ruling. that was a great interview. caitlin think i was watching it going? wow just as the three of you were going wow as well. i know i know you were because you have nancy mays, who says okay, the fda should ignore the courts and then on the other side of the republican spectrum , you have congressman tony gonzalez from texas, who i also interviewed yesterday, who said not only should the fda not ignore that, he said, if they do congress should withhold funding from the fda and there in lies. the political reality of the rub , not just the rub. but the real

disagreements within the republican party and, frankly, a lot of contradictions. i thought would steve just said about the supreme court if they are going to be consistent? from the dobbs decision doing away with roe v. wade to now consistent approach if they take it up, assuming they do would be to strike down this ruling because they argued before and jobs that this is a states rights issue. we don't know what what and if they're going to do, but that is a very interesting notion separate from the politics of this. can i just get to your that interview? i mean, the whole show yesterday was fascinating, particularly the point you made to representative gonzales about when he answered you and he said , look, this is about states. this is states' rights. you said then isn't and i'm paraphrasing here. you said it much more eloquently. but isn't this essentially a federal judge. sweeping federal power over those states' rights. i mean, the argument wasn't even consistent. no it's not

consistent. and you know, because you you've been doing a lot of discussion about the legal realities here and the problems and the challenges on all sides. i think it is important to talk about the politics and part of the reason why nancy mace told you, caitlin that she thinks that this is a disaster. not only is because she is a republican who is for abortion rights. it's also because she is a republican who's looking ahead. at 2 2024 seeing what is happening politically. look at what happened in wisconsin last week , where a democrat won a judge ship because they poured so much money and so much attention into the issue of abortion pretty consistently in even remotely purple areas. republicans are losing because this is so animating by and two and four the democratic not just the democratic base, but even some

independents who are going out and voting on this issue because they're so upset about losing the rights that they had had pre dobbs okay? tone change here. yeah because we love having you on and by the way approval from you. i hope i did not get to see because i was bogged down with so much easter family this weekend, but i hear that there was this hilarious skit on cnn on snl that featured you and some of our contributors and correspondence dealing with the indictment that trump indictment watches. and his motorcade wasn't even that big. i thought it would be bigger, but it was so small. this is his worst nightmare. and he's really freaking out because now he knows there are consequences. just so you know that were not mocking you or what have you any of our people here? this was a

skin and it was it was called c and zen, i think, and it was like a doing a smr on the trump indictment. so what did you say? like i thought it was so funny. it was it was and at the beginning of the skate, the whole premise of it was that there are so many people out there who are so desperate for the former president to be in trouble. and so it was a parody of those people. using us as a vehicle. it was very it was very, very clever, and by the way khloe feinman can play me anytime. i'm not going to tell you how many years younger than me, she is, but i will take it. it was so great seeing you, anderson, maggie, and it was such a wolf. one was pretty awesome. thank you. all right, dana, you're the best. thank you so much. good to see you. one of three lawmakers, um, ousted one of two lawmakers ousted from the tennessee house for leading a gun protest on the chamber floor could be voted back into a seat today. i will tell you how

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yet it's about nine o'clock is when we expect to see these striking workers hit the picket lines. this is one of the areas on the campuses where we're expected to see some of these 9000 educators, researchers and clinicians who say they're striking for better conditions among the things on their list, living wage for graduate school workers, affordable student housing access to affordable health care, equal pay for adjunct faculty, but as you again, john, as you mentioned, this is the first time time we've seen a strike of academic workers at this school is nearly 260 year history we're talking about 67,000 students that could be affected, and graduation is just about a month away. and so the university of saying, this is a legal this strike. it's unclear at this point whether they're going to be bringing here is what one of the leaders of the union says, she says in response to this idea that you're hurting the students, she says. we want to be teaching.

our courses. we've heard management say that a strike will harm students. but you know what really harms students. the high turnover, the results from paying teachers poorly and making them reapply for their jobs every semester that is from amy heidegger, who was the president of rutgers adjunct faculty union. so we have seen students aligning up getting on shuttles that carried them across this large campus. we haven't yet begun to see people arriving out here to the picket line, but there's a lot of enthusiasm by people driving by and also on twitter from these unions kind of trying to get people out and get people pumped. now this school says classes are not canceled, but some of the union leaders. we spoke spoken to say that they expect teachers not to be teaching, so we'll have to wait and see exactly how many classes are impacted and what the next steps are taken by by the university and by the governor has called for the two sides to come together. we'll be watching throughout the day, athena will be covering. thank you, athena jones national city council said to meet later today, they may vote on returning ousted

democratic representative justin jones. the tennessee house of representatives. jones is one of two tennessee lawmakers. you know, expelled thursday late in the day for staging a protest on the house floor. they were demanding stronger gun reform following the mass shooting at covenant elementary school, in which six people, including 39, year old children were murdered . isabel resource during just live in nashville this morning. walk us through what this would look like what roadblocks could stand in the way for him to get back there. to a seat on the floor under representing the folks in his district. hey poppy. good morning to reappoint justin jones back into his seat as an interim successor. the council here. metro council will need 21 votes. that's a simple majority if the full council of 40 members show up, so what i've been hearing from at least two council members, one of which is the vice mayor is that they feel confident that they've got the numbers to push forward. an appointment. the tricky part. what they're not so sure about

is a vote that has to happen before then, and that is a vote to suspend a council rule that prohibits the nomination and appointment from happening during the same day. it will only take the objection of two council members for that to not happen, and then we don't get to vote on an appointment. right now, if that feels, according to the vice mayor, there's a rule in the books. if they fail to suspend that rule, then they will have to wait four weeks before nominating jones. they want to move fast here from the council members have been speaking with they want to move fast. that is because right now there's nearly 70,000. people in jones's district who don't have representation here in the state house. vice mayor jim shaman tells me that what we can expect in terms of this meeting is for this to be relatively quick taking about 15 minutes or less . alicia porterfield will be the one to nominate jones. she is the same person who lost to him when she ran for his seat. guys. is about thank you. we'll watch very closely because a lot could

change today. appreciate it. yeah we'll be keeping an eye on nashville. also the abortion battle has now taken center stage after a judge in texas brought against the fda is a 20 year old approval of the abortion pill. what can washington do about it? we're going to ask a lawmaker who is at the forefront of this issue. a former executive at planned parenthood, tina smith, she joins us next. and a live look now at the white house, where the annual easter egg rolls about to get underway. wait until you hear what president biden just had to say about the 2024 e groll. maybe. 2025 yeah, six. and i thought you were going to say. there's always a fresh deal on the subway app like this. 1 50% off that feels so good. we don't even need an eight time all started telling you a about it. wait what it before it's gone on the subway out.einventing our network with smarter, more efficient

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that's 184494200. wellcare medicare. done well. herman in eastern ukraine. cnn. another abortion case, likely on a very fast track to the supreme court. this time, it's about whether abortion pills will stay legal in this country, and it comes after dueling orders from two federal judges. on friday, a judge in texas issued a ruling suspending the fds approval of the abortion pill made for preston. less than an hour later, a federal judge in washington state issued a contradictory ruling to keep that drug on the market in 17 states and washington d c.

joining us now is minnesota senator tina smith. i should know. she's a former executive at planned parenthood. she also sits on the help committee that oversees the fda. really a critical voice in this good morning, senator. good morning, poppy. i'm so glad to be with you this morning, given your background at planned parenthood and the committee, you said on now that has oversight over the fda. what's your reaction to where we are this morning? well this judge's decision is an outrage, and it throws into question over 20 years of safe and effective use of this drug method. kristen to terminate pregnancies early. i'm thinking about all the women who go to planned parenthood and clinics all over this country who are trying to figure out what this means for them and their ability to make decisions about their own lives and their own bodies. this decision must be reversed in the courts. well, that that does seem to be what the vitamin ist rationing. lying on listen to this exchange between the health and human services secretary javier bessire and dana bash yesterday. mhm. it is

incumbent upon us as a country to make sure women have safe and effective medication available to you going to do that. well we've already filed an appeal of this court's ruling. one judge in one court in one state. turned upside down. the fda is approval process for safe and effective medications. as you know, this is going to go to the fifth circuit, and that could be an uphill battle for the for the justice department. and if they don't freeze judge because merrick's ruling it means starting friday at midnight. no woman is going to be able to access this. well what this judge has done this extreme right wing judges. he has thrown the health care of millions of women into chaos. and i think that the biden administration is doing exactly the right thing, which is to vigorously prosecute and call for a repeal and fight for a reversal of this

ridiculous precedent that this judge is set hours trying to set immediately. i mean, think about what this means, papi. but this judge has done is, he said that the facts and the science and the law that has governed the fda approval of medications for years is now can be overturned by one judge and his political ideology. think about what that means. if you have somebody who says i don't like vaccines, anti-vaxxer, i'm going to go to the courts and asked them to overturn approval of backs of a vaccine. for example, it throws us into chaos, and the only solution here is to is to have this river. first in the courts. well that's the legal solution that you're hoping for. there are some as you know who are calling for the fda to ignore this judge's ruling. do you think the fda should ignore the judge's ruling? well i get that frustration, but i ask everyone to think about what the slippery slope is here. first of all, we

are a nation of rules and laws. and if this if this case it isn't if this case isn't um reversed, then you run the risk of all sorts of other attacks on safe and effective medications being prosecuted through the courts. it is just not tenable. i think again, the biden ministrations is doing exactly the right thing and that we have to. we have to win this case and let me also say we also have to elect a congress that is going to protect healthcare and women's health care and abortion rights in congress, senator it sounds like you're saying no, the fda should not ignore any federal judge's ruling in general, right, okay, but it's not just some democrats have said that, like congresswoman alexandra ocasio, cortez or senator ron wyden. it's republican congresswoman nancy mace to caitlin last hour. listen to this. so you think the fda should ignore this? i would

. yes i would. this is an issue that republicans have been largely on the wrong side of we have over the last nine months, not shown compassion towards women, and this is one of those issues that i've tried to lead on as someone who's pro life and just have some common sense. and she says this is an fda approved drug. i support the usage of fda approved drugs. do you think she's wrong? this is an fda approved drug and i would remind folks also that we have this other case in washington, which is essentially finding exactly the opposite of what this extremist judge and texas has found. so you have right now just kind of a chaotic situation again, which is why i think this can only be resolved in the courts and to just ignore the ignore the courts, i think just throws us into another level of chaos that i don't want to know where that ends up poppy. you know, five years down the road if we set a precedent that we're

just ignoring, uh, federal law, and then who can do whatever i think that, actually at the long run is very dangerous for women's health, depending on who the next president is. yes and this appears to be the first time a court has ordered a drug removed. from the market against the objections of the fda. so the question is, is this the first of many to come? senator tina smith and minnesota we appreciate your time very much. we'll track this, of course, as it moves quickly this week. thank you. thank you. caitlyn notable to hear from all of these lawmakers on their positions on this, and, of course, put it. she's in agreement with the department of health and human services, which says it does set a dangerous precedent will see what of course, is the ultimate outcome here. also this morning if you got the biggest news out of the annual white house, easter egg roll is going to be the unveiling of a new bunny. think again. listen to the president. biden just told al ruger about his potential future egg rolls. are you saying that you would be taking part in our upcoming

election? $2020 always even rolling egger being the good. you know, the guy who's pushing them out. help help! a brother out makes no no, i'm planning on running out, but we're not prepared to announce it yet. cnn's are led signs is live at the white house are let you don't particularly always expect for the president to make news at the easter egg roll, but biden saying there i'm planning on running. i'm just not ready to announce it yet. katelyn polantz comments track pretty closely tie when he says that he intends on running, but i think it further highlights that he is in no rush to make anything official which for those of us who have covered the will. he won't he of joe biden over the past 10 years aren't entirely surprised by that type of comment. but look, our team has spoken to people that the president has spoken to who he said that they have. he has told them that he is planning on running but really doesn't see the need to jump into the race just yet his team has been working behind the scenes to try

to set the basic contours of what a campaign might look like once he does pull the trigger. originally advisers had suggested that decision might be coming this april. april is here it is now looking like it might be pushed a bit into the summer, but there's still some big decisions that need to be made, such as who exactly is going to be running. this campaign is the campaign manager where it's going to be based, whether it's in his hometown of wilmington's delaware or possibly in philadelphia, the president biden in those comments at the easter egg roll, indicating he has a few more of these egg rolls left in him and that it might just be a matter of not if, but when he officially makes that announcement. yeah which it could be, of course, is the reporting has shown later this summer, but it just does track with what joe biden told you when you interviewed her, she said in her mind, there is no chance that he's not running our let let us know if there's any more news coming out of the easter egg roll while you're there. there was this morning we will stealthy their broker. oh very stealthy. they wasn't

expecting the weather mandate. got in there and got the information. you gotta ask your questions. ask your question it easter egg rolling off exactly. okay so from nintendo to the big screen, super mario brothers stomping box office expectations this weekend despite a lukewarm review from critics, what is behind the success here? oh, well, harry antin. here with this morning's number. haircut. sunday night. we're trying something a little different. one whole story. what's startling is the sheer number of migrants on this track. one whole hour. world's best journalists dig deeper is san francisco have failed city into the stories. they can't ignore the godzilla get mad and go kill that thing. go in depth every sunday night. if there are people willing to take risks. then they're gonna be people that left behind. the whole story with anderson cooper premieres sunday at eight o cnn

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opening despite some lukewarm reviews. from the critics, but you never know critics, the real critics, right? the folks who go out and watch the movie. harry hinton, our senior data reporter is here with this morning's number, so just how well did you do with the box office? first off? i just want to say it's me, harry. i had to do that. sorry okay? yeah this morning's number is take a look here. 205 million in the u. s domestic box office that is the largest gross ever for a five day opening so huge. we're not just talking animation, though it did set the record for animation film for the largest five day opening, not just domestically but internationally as well near four. $100 million internationally, so it was an absolutely huge opening, but something that we were talking about here, which is the reviews who like super mario brothers, movie goers 96% of them like that. but look amongst the critics, just 56% of them like

that. this is something we've been talking about. we talked about it going to awards season. there was this big divide between what the people actually like. and what the critics like. and we saw it right here. i mean to john's point, you know, it's the critics are really the ones who are buying the tickets and determining how much money it makes. i mean, that's based on a review. but i do think the movie goers are buying the ticket. what did i say? critics are saying they're the real critics. is there the disparity between how the reviews are and how it actually performed? think there are two things number one look at who the mario filmgoers are. 18 to 34 they were about 60% of them were 18 to 34, the us media . just 25% of the us media is 18 to 34 also a racial element here . look at this. what shares hispanic 41% of mario filmgoers were hispanic versus just 8% of the us media. so the fact is the us media is not representative of the people who are actually going to see these films, and that's why i think we're seeing

this very large. interesting. that is interesting, really interesting on a lot like a lot of levels. so many levels about everything. i'm taking the kids friday afternoon. so can i come ? yes great. i'm gonna go get a massage and you can take the kids, uh, babysitting dog. come, come, come. i'll buy you a ticket. fantastic are you gonna pay baby comes with how much do you charge for babysitting $15 an hour. you know how much smarter my kids would be. after an hour of babysitting by harry and, yeah. yeah they would be even more brilliant than they are. thanks very kind. thank terry hopping around like he does totally. so this morning, the 130 43rd white house, easter egg roll kicks off and a new bunny will be revealed. we're going to take a trip back in time to the historic white house event. i can't believe it's been around that long. so weird best is who always dresses as the bunny. it's like which staffers it was sean spicer when youu remember my gosh, that't's righ.

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newsworthy morning moment for you in more ways than one this morning as we were talking about earlier as the annual white house easter egg roll, and this year, the iconic easter bunny, which is normally played by a good humored staffer is getting a much needed upgrade. the role of tradition goes all the way back to 18 78 under rutherford behaves, and it remains one of the oldest annual events actually in white house history. the official white house. easter bunny was brought into existence as you can see here by pat nixon in 1969 former trump president jury, sean spicer spicer actually had the honor of where in the suit during the bush administration, he recently told cnn quote tradition is what makes a country unique. every country has things that are woven into its fabric, and this is one of ours. spicer explained that multiple people play the role actually in the hour plus log shifts over the course of the day's events, he says the

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