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hello and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. russia goes hypersonic. a missile barrage, 81 launches including some of moscow's sophisticated weaponry piercing hole's in ukraine's air defense. plus president biden's budget is just out. it outlines big ambitions for cost cutting on families and more. a republican house guarantees most of it won't clear congress, but it is a road map to the president's 2024 campaign contrast. and we're done. that from california's the democratic governor. he's walking away from a $54 million state deal with walgreens because he says the pharmacy giant say it is will not dispense abortion pills. a hypersonic high tide, wave after wave of russian missiles shattering cities across ukraine. this moscow's most ferocious
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assault in weeks. air raid sirens across ukraine. it shows you why. leaving no corner untouched, killing at least 11, injuring at least 20 more. a black smoke darkening the sky after strikes near the city center. at least one of them ukrainian officials say was a dagger, that is a hypersonic missile, one of the most advanced in russia's arsenal. near the west, this near the border first responders battling through piles of managled debri. we begin our coverage with ivan watson. >> john, this is just one of dozens of impact points across ukraine from a massive russian military barrage that took place overnight. fortunatelily, nobody was culled here. but look where the missile parts landed. right across from a big apartment building. it shattered windows here. it scared people crashing in at 7:00 in the morning.
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but people here are accustomed to this threat after a year of war. i spoke to a mother and her adult daughter. both of them went to work today after this frightening wakeup. now in the western city, five victims were trageically far les fortunate. three men and two women kill ed the ukrainian armed torss say that thises was an attack that came by land, sea and air. at least 81 different types of missiles fired at ukraine as well as iranian-made so-called suicide drones. ukrainian antiaircraft was able to shoot down about 34 of the missiles in the armed forces and 4 of the drones. but the ukrainian air forces said that they don't have the capability to shoot down russia's hypersonic caliber missiles, which were fired. and some of the other missiles remain vulnerable to these types of attacks. the russian ministry of defense
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has claimed responsibility for the attack. they say it was retaliation for some kind of incident that took place in the russian region on march 2nd, which ukraine has denied any connection to. cnn has not been able to dependently verify what took place there. >> ivan watson, thank you. moving on to another big story in washington, he says he's sorry and vowing to make things right in east palestine after that last month's train derailment. he's being pressed on capitol hill about the steps his company will take to help clean up the ohio community and to prevent future disasters. we are tracking the hearing. sunlen, what are we learning? >> there's been very sharp questions from the senators a the this panel for the ceo of norfolk southern talking about the initial steps taken what went wrong, what went wrong in the immediate aftermath in
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communications and certainly how they can make this whole for the residents of east palestine. now we did hear an apology, as you noted from the ceo of the company andy shaw, and he admitted that mistakes were made and admitted that the safety mechanisms this if place were just not right. he committed to being on ground for as long as it takes. he said next week, next month, next year, five years, tennessee years from now, here's what he said to those residents. >> is i am determined to make this right. norfolk southern will clean the site safely, to hoe ri and with urgency. you have my personal commitment. norfolk southern will get the job done. we'll be in the community for as long as it takes. to be clear, there are no strings atafted to our assistance. >> certainly given the huge and
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notable concerns from the residents in those communities over their health and safety and also the concern more long-term for their businesses, there was a huge kind of pushback from the company this week in the lead up to this community. really taking pains to lay out they are making some safety changes, that they are investing many millions of dollars in the community, trying to make it right. but for many on capitol hill and certainly in many residents, that does not go far enough. we heard some other witnesses today, most notably from the two senators from ohio, a republican and a democrat, who they pushed the company today and said will you commit to this piece of bipartisan legislation that they have put forward, which talks about more whole scale changes for the rail industry at large. when he was asked about that, the ceo said he would not commit i commit the intent of this legislation, but certainly, there are many parts they don't agree with.
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but he said he believes that the culture of safety right now is good and certainly improving. that's what he said, although that does not go far enough for many residents. >> guarantees the scrutiny will continue. grateful for that reporting, we'll continue to track the hearing as it plays out. to another major story developing on capitol hill. the senate republican leader membership mitch mcconnell is in the hospital after the leader tripped and fell last night at a dunner here at a hotel in washington. one republican senator telling cnn a short time ago he expects a briefing on his wicondition se time today. let's get to our correspondent manu raju. >> senators are are really in the dark about the extept of some the injuries. even the number two republican john thune said he has not spoken yet with the republican leader. he does not know what happened last night. he was at the same event as mcconnell, which was an event for mcconnell's leadership pack.
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a big money event very often he goes to this kind of events here in washington at a hotel. the waldorf, not far from the white house. after that event around 9:17 p.m., that's when emergenciers knelt were dismatched to the scene to help senator mcconnell, who trip ped and fell ask injurd himself. it's still uncertain exactly how or the extent of his injuries, what his treatment is, but we expect more information about all of that later today. in talking to republican senators, he has not spoken to mcconnell, but he's opt mustic that the leader will have a full recovery. >> 81-year-old falling, you're a doctor, what's the first thing that comes to your mind? >> chuck grassley broke his up and he's doing remarkably well.
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mitch is going to do fine. there's some advantages of having a little gray hair and life experience, but once you start getting elderly, things start happening. you lose your balance. you get sick more regularly and growing old can be pretty rough. >> the last senator weighing in if about the ageing nature of the senator. the senate is a much older body than the rest of the american public. the median age about 65 years old. we have seen senators have their own health issues. dianne feinstein was hospitalized for shingles. she's out of of the hospital and receiving treatment. chuck grassley fell and injured his hips just recently. he's had surgery to recover. grassley making a recovery here in the senate. this is an issue that's been very common. who is still in the hospital as we await more details about his
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condition. >> and a follow-up on the details. maybe it's because the senator is 80 years old. i'm 59 years young. because of my ms, i have balance issues sometimes. i fall sometimes. the question is do we know did he faint or get dizzy and fall or did he trip and fall? it could be a big distinction. >> it is a big distinction. we do not know any of the details about the circumstances around that fall. even the senators who were at that event in which he fell did not witness it themselves. so it is unclear exactly everything that happened here. but as you know, much of mitch is a polio survivor at a young age. so he has sometimes trouble walking. he walks one step at a time. he typically walks very carefully. it's still uncertain erg that happened here. that's one of the big questions about his condition, what happened and what's going to happen next. >> manu raju, important details. come back through the hour as we get details.
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moments ago, biden administration unveiling the president's 2024 budget. before the president taking a trip to philadelphia to roll it out and to talk about it. it offers families help with child care costs and frames fights with republicans on taxes, medicare and on social security. and the republican presidential hopeful nikki haley taking issue with biden and with most of her fellow republicans. she suggests raising the retirement age and cutting benefits for wealthy americans. with two times more menthol per drop*,, and the powerful rusush of vicks vapors for fast-acting relief you can feel. vicks vapocool drops. fast relief you can feel. a third kid. what if she likes playing golf? it's expensive. we're outlawing golf. wait. can i still play? since we work with emower, we don't have to woy about planning for a third kid. you can still ay golf... sometimes. take control of your financial future empower what's next.
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budget measure anything claims the president's priorities now as he negotiates with republicans this year and campaigns for reelection next year. let's bring in our chief white house correspondent phil mattingly. >> i think in the last 14 minutes, i assume you have read each of the hundred plus pages of analysis. all of the numbers, all of the tax policies in there. i'll shorthand it and frame it for which it is. this is in the drawing of the political battlelines on the near term fiscal fights that we'll be embracing and the months ahead as it relates to the debt limit, but it also serves as a campaign platform document. when you look at some soft the informsments included in the $6.8 trillion bug, you're talking about the expansion of the child care tax credit. incentives for states to boost child care options. these are the types of things the president has talked about. he ran an in 2020 and tried to implement in the first two years
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and was unable to and is pursuing them, even though they don't have a pathway forward. that's a reality that white house officials are keenly aware of. it is not a document that will end up on the president's desk from a policy perspective. but it does lay out the contrast between this white house and house republicans and it does lay out the battle lines as things move forward. central among those is the issues of medicare and social security. with saw the president talk about it and continued to try to elevate the fight. and the budget director was trying to do the same. take a listen. >> this budget makes clear this president will fully fund social security and extend the life of medicare by 25 years with his policies. the speaker, who said they won't cut, they have plans in black and white and different proposals that said they will cut benefits. i say show us the plan.
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>> reporter: it alludes to another element of this. this budget while it's required by law, the white house has always planned to produce it, it's also bait. they want house republicans to produce their own budget. they know the steep cuts that republicans said they are considering and have not de detailed yet. each one of those will create an opportunity to attack. view this through the fiscal battle ace head and the political contrast that will define a reelection campaign when or if the president decides to launch it. it's a very much what this is all about. you know this is a values document, but this is also a very clear political document as well. >> interesting days beginning today ahead as we go through the priorities debate. phil mattingly, thank you for kicking that off. joining me to shower their reporting is j lee and tia mitchell. as phil put it, this is bait.
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chiefly for kevin mccarthy who are did have one meeting with the president that he said was productive. that was about the debt ceiling. the budget is related to that because republicans want spending cuts. but kevin mccarthy not willing to give any details. he is said why hasn't the president called. >> he told me once he would. i believe he will. but that's a month wasted. that's a month that brings more doubt financially. that's a month that hurts americans. the sooner we get together, the better off all america will be. looking forward to be able to move this forward. >> let's start with the white house perspective on that. i assume the president's answer, the staff answer would be when you put something on paper, come down. we'll do it. >> the honest answer might be the president hasn't called because the white house made clear all along that they don't see this as a negotiation. that when it comes to raising the debt ceiling, they are not willing to have conversations. they are not willing to have
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back and forth about what they might be willing to give to house republicans, because they are not willing to give anything. this needs to be a clean raise. i think phil put it well when he said this is obviously a political blueprint. it's interesting. you don't typically think of the omb director of being political. but she kind of in that interview with phil went as far as a director might in a political direction. even by simply suggesting that this document is supposed to show a contrast between the president's vision and democrats' vision versus what house republicans areing to do. >> so where are the house republicans on this question? because they have such huge divisions within that narrow majority, are they anywhere close to putting things on paper? in the meantime, the plan is on paper. it's an interesting document. agree or disagree at home, but you have a democratic president saying let's slash the deficit. and then the biggest problem is
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affordable child care costs. will make them more solvent without cutting anything. >> so i actually asked the house budget chairman yesterday when is the republican party going to put out their own budget. he said it might be a month delayed from that april 15 target deadline to the may. his spokesperson said no decisions have been made. the fact that they are laying the groundwork are putting this idea out it might be delayed shows much they are struggleing. what they are trying to achieve is really difficult, if not impossible. they want to enact deep spending cuts but don't want the to raise taxes. they don't really the to touch the pentagon budget. so there's limited pools to cut from. it's likely going to touch on these very popular programs. it's going to include reforms in medicaid and snap. it's going to open them up to attack. it's going to be difficult to pass a budget at all. but the white house calculation is that they won't be able to do that and that republicans will cave and have to agree to a
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clean debt ceiling hike. >> this is joe manchin, who is in the middle of everything. the democrats have one more seat, but his view is you have a democratic president and a republican house. pretty evenly divided senate. everybody has to compromise. his take is go back before the pandemic when washington spending increased dramatically. >> everyone is talking about spending cuts. can we just see if we can go back to normal. where were we before covid? how much new debt did we accumulate because of all the subsidies. and is it possible to start going back and just giving back to normal before you start cutting them and scaring people to death. >> that sounds pretty rational. this is the first crack in a budget with divided government. this sounds like a rational compromise, which means it's never going to happen. >> it sounds rational, but it's not pre-covid.
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so it's hard to go back there. ukraine and russia is a reality now that did not exist pre-covid as well. so only of the discussions that are going to be had about military spending, defense spending, are not going to be the same as pre-covid as well as the discussions that democrats want to have about the safety net, about child care. those are things that with the new the democratic majority, they don't want the to say we'll just go back to the quo. they saw what the child tax credit did in the wake of covid. they the to embrace that. >> and the timing is interesting. number one, first budget and duh provided government. the budget as the 2024 campaign is in its early days. including the former governor of south carolina is, former ambassador saying yesterday shotgun that takes courage, the question is it also foolish. >> joe biden is saying the only way to deal with entitlements is to raise taxes. it did you want care it runs out.
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he's not going to be there anymore. the first thing you do is change the retarmt age of the young people coming up. so we kr k try to have some sort of system for them. the second thing is you go and limit the benefits for wealthy people. >> he's not going to be there anymore is a meanness about the president's age. we could do without. but her point there, raise the retirement age. it you make more money, you don't get as generous as benefits. this is not a brand new idea, but when you have joe biden s saying that's what republicans want to do, and when you have donald trump saying don't do that, where's that going? >> she was actually pretty careful in her broader language about entitlement programs. she said you can make reforms, but what i'm suggesting wouldn't touch the current beneficiaries. i'm talking about a broader structural reform that would affect future generations. you're right. you have donald trump basically
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warning his colleagues saying you should not touch a penny of these programs because they are too important. you shouldn't focus on these programs because people are going to notice if you try to cut away those programs. republicans know that making cuts to these programs and doing it in a way that wouldn't make people furious is a difficult political task. >> but that also means you're doing things for the long-term. and i think that's why it becomes so politically untenable. you're still risking make ing people mad without any short-term payoffs as far as the current deficits. so that's why republicans or democrats, quite frankly, don't want to have that conversation that is more long-term in view. but it's probably the one that they should be having is. >> kevin mccarthy says this is off the table. one of his presidential candidates says it's thot. >> republicans use d to actuall
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have this position. even ten years ago, they were talking about entitlement reforms. but former president trump has put republicans in such a bind in this situation, there had been hope that finally they would be able to knowing there's leverage points be able to address programs and make them more solvent. it's a fiscally responsible position, but it's such a thursday rail for them. >> now the house republicans get to see if they can et settle on it. the new frontier of abortion access and politics. red state attorneys general try to block access to brgs pills and california's governor says we'll punish walgreens for going along. pack at your pace. store yourur things until you're ready. then we dedeliver to your new home - across town or across the country. pods, your perersonal moving and storage team. next on behind the sereries... let me tell you about the greatest roster ever assembled. the monster, the outlaw... and you n't forget about the boss. sometimes- you just want eat your heroes.
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california democratic governor newsom is telling walgreens we're done. the governor ending a $54 million contract with the pharmacy chain. walgreens recently announced it will stop distributing abortion pills in 21 states. republicans attorneys general in those states had threatened to take legal action. newsom says his state won't invest in companies that cave to the extremist agenda of the gop. our great reporters are back at the table with us. walgreens says the governor doesn't have their facts strait. but you have a democratic governor, california's economy would be 12th or 13th largest in the world, just the state economy. this is the new front tier of
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abortion politics. >> there's such a patchwork of laws taz pertains to abortion that walgreens is trying to navigate that complicate d lega landscape. they are trying not to break the law. they are facing pressure from both sides of the aisle. i think this is just the new reality in our world. >> 21 states threatened legal action. if you look at the map, they are mostly republican states. they have republican attorneys general. now we can show you another map, which is the post world of abortion access. the purple states are where abortion restrictions are the same as they were or more len lenient. and this is what makes this interesting from a journalism perspective, confusing from a policy perspective. especially if you're a woman. in michigan, just yesterday they had a democratic legislature, they have voted to repeal the abortion ban.
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that happened in michigan. yet at the same time this florida, the legislature is considering a six-week abortion ban. that is our new world. >> that's our new world. from a business standpoint, abortion pills aren't going to be a huge money make for a company like walgreens. for them when they started to receive that political pressure they fell the path of least resistance is to say we won't do it it's not going to affect their bottom line, but that's when california comes in and that would affect their bottom line, as you mentioned. california's business with walgreens might be equal to all 21 of these states combined. so they have to make a decision of whether providing abortion pills is worth the headache or whether they should stay out of it and then possibly lose a huge
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contract. >> the president and vice president of the united states had saud they are going to be watching this had. if it is legal in a state, then the question sometimes comes up about mailing it across state lines if you live in a state with that lu in place. this issue is with us from a policy perspective daily. i suspect will be a big issue in the campaign. >> and we are definitely seeing president biden and his administration's post roe policies being tested. they have made really clear that they are going to make a federal effort to protect access to abortion medication. i think it's pretty clear that in a world where california is battling with walgreens over this issue, clearly we are not seeing a situation where access to that kind of medication is guaranteed. it's been interesting to see how the white house has talked about this from thor eeor the perspec of businesses. they have almost expressed sort
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of sympathy and understanding that they do recognize that they are having issues right now because every law and the rules per state are so different. it's a very complicated matter for these businesses to navigate and what the federal government would like to do is generally offer support to any company that would like to try to legally offer these services. >> one of the big tests is the same supreme court. that wiped out roe still in place. but as the states now enact new restrictions and practices, there will be court challenges. cannin convince them to reconsider. including five women in texas who say because of that state's deep severe restrictions that their health was put at risk during pregnancy. they are suing. listen to three. >> i cannot adequately put into words the trauma and despair that comes with waiting to either lose your own life, your
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child's life or both. >> texas lawmakers robbed me of the choice to lose my child with dignity and with respect for my body and well being and future. >> if the texas legislature had gotten their way, it makes it less likely that i and the baby i'm about to bring in this world would be standing here today. >> the personal stories heart wrenching. can they convince federal courts in the post roe world? where the highest court said this is up to the states. can they convince them that some of the particulars that the states are enacting go too far? >> that's the big question. it's going to be really difficult, especially in some of these red states, including in texas. but these emotional stories is what helps with the public pressure and outside pressure we'll hear more and more of these things. it's not been a year. so we are now starting to see the ramifications of that decision. >> we saw what a big political issue this was during the
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midterms. there's no question it's going to be a huge issue heading into 2024 as well. >> one of the reasons that michigan legislature had the votes to do what it did just this week. up next, the covid origin debate. those that suspected a lab leak said they were ignored. top government intelligence officials on capitol hill again today telling congress there's no definitive answer because china won't cooperate.
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top of mind on capitol hill. the coronavirus lab leak theory. moments ago the chief vowing to share a confidential report with lawmakers. that low confidence assessment from the energy department concluded that covid-19 likely originated in a wuhan, china, lab. explaining earlier why the intelligence community does not have a decisive answer. >> what there isn't a consensus on is whether or not it's a lab leak as the director indicated or natural exposure. china has thot fully cooped and that's a key gap that would help us to understand what exactly happened. >> let's get insights with the former deputy director and the former health commissioner dr. lenah wen. you were part of this.
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and we all would love this answer, but you think the focus on this question, was it a lab leak or animal to human transmission. you think it's not the right question to be asking, at least not first. >> i kind of feel like we know enough already to get with the program of figuring out how do we prevent another pandemic. we know enough right now to say it could absolutely have come from a lab leak. it could have come from human transmission. what are we going to do about it? i'm just a forward looking person. i don't like this politicization that i feel really underpins a lot of this conversation. >> when you have written the same thing in the sense that there could have come from animal to human transmission, could have come from a lab leak, and you belief it's necessary to spend all of our time planning for the next one, not overdebate
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ing the last one, but some scientists who early on say they suspected the lab leak and want wanted to look further into that. they were essentially bullied. listen. >> there was just ferociously strong head winds. there was this manufactured consensus. >> that i wanted a single narrative and i had a different point of view this was a decision that there's one point of view we're going to put out there and anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined. >> now specifically pointedly the blame belongs to his former colleague dr. fauci. he said let's not blame dr. fu fauci. if you were saying lab leak in the early months, you were pushed to the fringe. do you think that's a fair criticism? >> i think it's really important for us to distinguish between manmade and lab leak. in the beginning, the people who are labeled fringe were the ones
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talking about a bioweapon. they were talking about scientists directly manipulating viruss to make them more pathogenic and releasing it as a way to cause a lot of people to die on purpose. there's no intelligence and no scientific communities to support that kind of manmade pathogen. and i think that's why that was being labeled as being a fringe theory. but on the other hand, lab leak meaning a lab accident, was always on the table. there have been a number of accidents in the past, including smallpox and anthrax and including some that happened in our own country that didn't result in massive outbreak, but it could have. with need to be clear about manmade versus lab leak and to say at this moment agreeing with what beth was saying there are circumstantial evidence for both hypotheses.
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if we know both are possible, we should be doing everything to prevent both from occurring in if the future. >> as we're trying to answer these questions, or looking forward, how did we prepare for the next big public health challenge, you'd agree it's important to have credible people at the table when asking those questions. the democrats were challenging one of the witnesses house republicans brought in yesterday. his name is nicklaus wade. he's been a researcher for some time. he wrote a book that a lot of white supremacists say was a great book. listen to the criticism and his response. >> are you awe ware of david duke's praise of your views on his website? >> when my book first came out, i think the right wing thought it would help their cause. >> i ended up being the president so national lu could work against this sort of thing. it is repulsive. >> i don't have anything in common with the views of white supre supremacists.
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>> they love you, though. >> he maybe likes many things. that doesn't mean they are all wrong. >> the book was about ten years ago. a lot of scientists, anthropologists, dismissed the biology of race theory that he advanced. dr. wen, are his views credible? should he be the person congress or republicans are asking about public health issues? >> right, he certainly has a lot of problematic views, but the other issue is there are scientists whose work he side krooited who specifically have protested saying he misinterpreted their research. he used their conclusions out of context. and the real issue is that there are so many other credible scientists who can present the evidence as is. you shouldn't be starting with a cob conclusion and cherry picking to support that conclusion. in favor of the lab leak. that's a proversion of the scientific process. we really need people who are able to present both sides and all the evidence in order to
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find out the origin. >> and lastly, director haynes says she will share the energy department report. which with low level believes it was a lab leak. are you comfortable with that? >> absolutely. i think that we should give all finished intelligence from wherever the community it comes from and share this. i want to make sure that they have the context and the ability to sort through it and make sense of it because maybe coming from the lab it might be more technical than some of the other reports, but we have to be transparent about differences of views and sort through those. >> we appreciate it. thank you very much. up next for us, tensions over a surge in border crossings, and think again, this time look north.
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we'll take a look at increased tensions at the border, but not the border you're probably thinking of. mounting pressure for president biden and prime minister trudeau to fix a u.s.-canada agreement because of skyrocketing crossings from the states into canada.
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explain. >> this is a great example of a challenge president biden has on the southern border now spilling into the relationship with the northern partner. the decades old asylum agreement was signed in 2002 and applies to people who go to a port of entry and could have sought protection in the u.s. canada can turn them back to the u.s. to get that asylum claim. it doesn't apply at unofficial crossings. what canada is currently seeing is hundreds of migrants crossing into rocken road, an unofficial crossing between the united states and canada. they want to close the loophole, so this agreement can apply to those people, as well. these are conversations that have been ongoing for years, but there's added urgency now. a canadian official tells me they're in the final stages of those renegotiations. but, of course, president biden and trudeau have shared a strong bond. they talk about it frequently. but this is an added wrinkle ahead of president biden's trip there later this month. >> if you look at these numbers,
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367 detentions this january. 24 detentions january a year ago. you have two politicians here, two leaders who are generally pro-refugee, say be kinder and more welcoming. but? >> they have to take a tougher stance. they're both dealing with political pressures at home. we're seeing this with prime minister trudeau and do domestically with president biden. they have to take restrictive measures to quell those concerns. and that is where we're seeing prime minister trudeau putting pressure on this administration, as well, to renegotiate and try to close off all the crossings they're seeing at the northern part of the border. >> good friends, think they can work this out or problems? >> officials and sources i've talked to say, yes, they can work it out. it is probably not going to damage their relationship, but time will tell. >> difficult issue as always. that's why you're here frequently. we'll see you back tomorrow. our coverage will be picked up on a busy news day after this break. it gets in between teeth to destroy 5x x more plaque
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