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mitch mcconnell sided with the chief's assessment. >> it was a mistake in my view for fox news to depict this in a way that's completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at the capitol thinks. >> on the other side of the capitol, however, it was house speaker kevin mccarthy republican of california who gave fox exclusive access to 40,000 plus hours of security footage from that day. yes, fox, the very channel whose executive and hosts have been revealed in a deposition to have knowingly presented lies to their viewers about the 2020 election, lies that inspired the very same assault on the capitol on january 6th, 2021. now, the capitol police chief says the channel conveniently cherry picked video showing calmer moments during the insurrection showing, for instance, video of rioter jacob chansley walking through the capitol, not receiving push back
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from police in those moments. this was presented without the fuller context as if this video of how chancely actually got into the capitol building did not exist. it was not aired. in court documents, of course, they said officers tried repeatedly to get the man to leave the capitol and he ultimately pleaded guilty to felony charges related to his activities on january 6th. now, fox claimed the small snippets proved that democrats and those on the january 6th committee have been lying to the american people what have been happening that day and very little about the attack was violent fox claims. here is how republicans who were actually in the capitol on that day described what happened inside the capitol during the insurrection. again, these are republicans. >> this is insane. i mean, i have not seen anything like this since i deployed to iraq in 2007 and 2008.
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i mean, this is america and this is what is happening. >> mad dam speaker, today the people's house was attacked, which is an attack on the republic itself. there is no excuse. a woman died. people need to go to jail. >> to those who reeked havoc in the capitol today, you did not win. violence never wins. >> so here are some of the things we know to be true about january 6th. facts, fox was given access to more than 40,000 hours of capitol security footage by speaker mccarthy. cnn and other media organizations such as abc news or "usa today" or cbs news or the los angeles times among them, we have also requested access to the same footage as of now, we have not gotten that access. mccarthy's office says they are still working on it. another fact, this move comes at the same time that fox is being sued by dominion voting systems for repeatedly lying about its company and airing lies about
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the 2020 election results. those lies resulted in the january 6th capitol rupert murdoch the chair of fox said some fox hosts lied about the 2020 election on the air and we know from the evidence presented by dominion that hosts texted each other about various liars who deranged non-sense they covered and in some cases platformed. sydney powell is a complete nut. no one will work with her. ditto with rudy giuliani but none of that stopped fox elevating these false conspiracy theories about the election. in his deposition, chairman rupert murdoch when asked if he seriously doubted the claims of massive election fraud by trump and allies, murdoch responded oh, yes and said it under oath, i would have liked us to be
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stronger in denouncing it in hindsight. that's the channel, the network that mccarthy handed over this footage to or gave access to the foo footage. here is another fact, fox used the footage given to them by speaker mccarthy to frame a description of the events of january 6th where they say very little was organized and very little was violent. where the phrase in their view deadly insure recollection was a lie. deadly insure recollection they s -- insurrection they say was a lie. four trump supporters died that day. one shot by capitol policeman as she tried into a chamber where police were trying to evacuate lawmakers including republicans from the unruly mob. donald trump said after this fox presentation that the special shows all the january 6th defendants should be freed. all the prisoners, let the january 6th prisoners go he said. now, all of this alternate theory what happened that day contradicts law enforcement, contradicts people there that
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day. contradicts capitol police officers. contradicts bipartisan members of the january 6th committee and congressional republicans but don't take my word for it. >> they tried to hunt down the speaker of the house. they built a gwall and talked about murdering the vice president. >> terrorists literally occupied the floor of the house. >> a danger rouls right. >> law enforcement agents were attacked and seriously injured. >> i was electrocuted again and again and again. >> they were bleeding. they were throwing up. they were, you know, they had -- i mean, i saw friends with blood all over their faces. i was slipping in people's blood. >> this morning i reached out to speaker mccarthy's office and asked four simple questions. does the speaker of the house agree with fox' conclusion everything about the phrase deadly insurrection is a lie?
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does the speaker of the house agree very little about january 6th was organized or violent? does the speaker of the house agree that members of the january 6th select house committee lied about what was on the security footage? and does the speaker of the house agree that quote the 2020 election was a grave betrayal of democracy unquote? so far, speaker mccarthy has not responded. one does wonder how much facts matter to him. this campaign to belittle what happened on january 6th 2021 was done in service of the continued argument the 2020 election was a grave betrayal of american democracy so how are con congressional republicans reacting today to fox' airing of january 6th footage last night as they did? well, let's take a listen. >> what do you think of tucker charleston got this security footage from speaker mccarthy and we always have to down play january 6th. said it was mostly peaceful chaos in his view and said it was non-insurrection, said that brian sicknick's death was not
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related to january 6th. >> i think it's bullshit. i was here. i was down there. i saw maybe a few tourists and people that got caught up in things but you see police barricades breached. when you see police officers assaulted, all of that, you had to be in close proximity to it, i don't think it's helpful. >> manu raju joins us from capitol hill. manu, you've been talking to both republicans all day getting their reaction to fox' airing of security footage last night. what are they telling you? >> they are making it clear they sharply disagree with the whitewashing of events here. they lived through what happened. they saw what happened. they've seen the investigations, and they know how deadly the violence was. many of them, they all had to leave the senate in a hurry to secure locations and we saw deadly violence occur that day at the hands of donald trump supporters and it wasn't just moderate republicans that broke from tucker charleston's
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protrp portrayal but rank and file members including conservatives like kevin cramer of north dakota. >> breaking through glass windows and doors to get into the united states capitol against the orders of police is a crime. when you come into the chambers, when you start opening members' desks, when you stand up in their balcony to somehow put that in the same category as a, you know, permitted peaceful protest is just a lie. >> i mean, i think it was -- yeah, it was an attack on the capitol. there were -- yeah, there were a lot of people in the capitol at the time who i think were scared for their lives. >> i thought it was an insurrection at that time. i still think it was an insurrection today. >> and mitt romney told me that he believed that giving tucker charleston the security footage and the way that carlson portrayed it was quote disgusting and dangerous and he
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also said it was a mistake for mccarthy to give that footage to tucker charleston. no word yesterday from mccarthy himself. we approached him in the capitol today, jake, and he said he would answer questions later today about all this so we'll see what he has to say. >> didn't he say that last week, too, mamanu? didn't he say he'd take questions and never did. >> he did one day. >> let's see what he does. manu raju, thank you. joining us to discuss two people there that day, former congressman and january 6th committee member adam kinzinger and the honorary chair of the country first pack and d.c. metro police officer michael fanone injured in the january 6th insurrection. congressman kinzinger, let me start with you. last night when airing the security footage tucker charleston called you a liar and liz cheney said you lied and you should never be taken seriously again unquote i wanted to give you an opportunity to respond to that.
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>> look, tucker knows better. he's actually a smart guy. he is taking the people he's talking to. he's lying to them. i mean, there is no doubt. it's basically been admitted in these court documents with the dominion suit but he doesn't care because he wants people's money. he is an unserious man who is doing serious damage with the cooperation of kevin mccarthy that wants to have tucker charleston on a speed dial because he wants to impress people in the room who is on a speed dial. this is dangerous and, you know, michael fanone will tell you how all dangerous that was because it was a really bad day that is being whitewashed but the kids of the people that believe that somehow that wasn't an insurrection, they're going to know better and the parents will never admit they believed it in the first police. >> officer fanone, fox last night aired this never before seen video that they said showed u.s. capitol police officer brian sicknick we should know
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died one day after the attack appearing to give instructions to rioters in the area. we see sicknick waving his arms looking healthy and vigorous so they say it's hard to believe he died from the capitol attacks. we see him being sprayed with pepper spray and crouching down trying to recover in the aftermath. the d.c. medical examiner we should note say he died of natural causes but all that transpired that day played a role in his death. what do you think of how brian sicknick's death was discussed last night? i know his family has been pushing back a bit. >> i mean, it was outrageous. it was outrageous that tucker charleston would use footage from a fallen police officer's last moments to disparage the
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officer and to disparage the family members, the survivors. >> so congressman ken sinker shd jacob chansley walking through the capitol. it's true the video shows there is no push back going on, nobody is instructing him or yelling at him. there is no audio in the video so we don't know if the officer is just talking to him. that does -- i guess the narrative is obviously much more complicated than either side would have it be but prosecutors have said kchancely disa bobeye requests. what do you make of this? >> this is what tucker is doing. as fanone will tell you better because he knows the techniques and procedures involved in this, they were trying not to escalate what the riots did because if they escalate with the rioters, people are going to die including police officers. they had no way to arrest people
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and take them to jail because they were surrounded. the capitol was surrounded. so what tucker has done is taken moments, claimed like for instance sicknick's death there is brian. he didn't die. nobody argued. nobody said he died that day. everybody said he died the next day in relation to that but pretends to his audience like somehow the committee said it happened on the 6th and we were lying. he creates strawman and refutes and it's a complete lie to the audience and we could go on forever about it. look, the police were scared of escalation because they were out numbered a gagillion to one. >> i don't know the deal cut with matt gaetz and others but apparently part of it according to matt gaetz was releasing as much of the cctv footage, the security footage as possible from that day and as a journalist, i'm all in favor of
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transparency. anything that could put them in jeopardy in the capitol but officer fanone, i wonder what you make of the decision by speaker mccarthy to give the footage exclusively to fox. >> first, i want to point out a huge distinction between somebody like yourself, jake, and someone like tucker charleston. you know, by the company's own admission, tucker charleston is an entertainer and you're a journalist. that being said, you know, if there is one thing kevin mccarthy has proven, he's donald trump's useful idiot. he, you know, he proved it when he went down to mar-a-lago with a jar full of star burst and proving it again by essentially hach handing over 40,000 security video from the capitol unvetted by the capitol police's own
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admission to a propaganda and entertainer like tucker charleston for the sole purpose of creating an alternative narrative to january 6th to best serve donald trump and those that would make money off of donald trump's grift. >> congressman, i want to break down statistics. 999 people are phfacing federalr local charges. 326 are charged with assault or resulting or impeding officers and 140 officers were assaulted at the capitol that day. 518 people have been charged and pleaded guilty. how can fox really try to paint this as largely peaceful filled with sight seers? obviously, not every single person in the building, i don't even know numerically what the percentage would be but obviously, no one is saying everyone was violent but the numbers speak for themselves. >> here is how fox does the
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audio. the audience is invested in the fact. they've been programmed by tucker charleston for many years. they've been invested in the fact that you have to pick your side and stick with it. no matter the cost, suspend your believes just trust us. we're going to tell you, we're going to give you the talking points and arguments. fox knows that's not true. tucker knows that's not true. you can see it all throughout the dominion lawsuit. i'll guess probably not. has fox news told their own audience they were lying to them? probably not. they keep them hooked and give them a bigger dopamine rush and a bigger hit and that's how it goes. >> it's not just fox that hasn't covered the dominion lawsuit. i think "the new york post" hasn't covered it. there is a lot of conservative media that hasn't covered it at all. michael fanone and adam kinzinger, thank you. you know, i know it probably is
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pretty upsetting personally to have been there and in your case officer fanone, to have been physically harmed severely and see presentation. i want you to know, we see you. we know it happened. and i don't know what to say about this except i'm sorry. coming up, we'll talk to one woman that lost her pregnancy at four months and almost lost her life. she's one of five women suing texas over the state's abortion law. developments about the four americans kidnapped in mexico. tragically two are dead and two are back in the united states. are investigators any closer to finding those responsible? stay with us. 're hard at work, helping them achieve financial freedom. we're providing g greater acces to investing, with low-cost options to help maximize savings. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.
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>> reporter: amanda and josh were thrilled last year to tell family and friends that after years of trying, amanda was finally pregnant, then four months into her pregnancy, her water broke. >> you're 100% for sure going to lose your baby. we kept asking isn't there anything we can do? isn't there anything we can do? the answer was no. >> reporter: but doctors in texas said they couldn't do an abortion. amanda became septic and needed a blood chance fusion. her family flew in because they feared she would die. she lost her baby but survived and the lead plaintiff in a lawsuit against texas against the state and texas medical board. >> because abortion is a crime in texas punishable by up to 99 years in prison. what the law is forcing physicians to do is weigh these very real threats of criminal prosecution against the health and well being of their
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patients. >> reporter: amanda and four other texas women and two doctors are asking the court to clarify that abortions can be performed when a physician makes a good faith judgment and that the pregnant person has a physical emergency medical condition that poses a risk of death or a risk to their health including fertility. >> it particularly unusual for people to be willing to bring these lawsuits in their own names and not to use a pseudonym and really share these personal details about their lives. >> reporter: another new front, a battle between walgreens and california governor gavin n newsom. last month attorneys general from 21 states that passed anti abortion laws wrote to walgreens about sending abortion pills through the mail. wall gregreens says they won't distribute abortion medication in those states and says walgreens does not intend to ship it into your state. newsom countered with a tweet
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california won't do business with walgreens or any company that cowers to the extremist and puts women's lives at risk. he didn't specify what business his state has with the drugstore chain. the medicine is also used in miscarriages. >> not to stock this medication in particular states really is most likely to harm those patients who would benefit from being able to use the medication for miscarriage where it's perfectly legal. >> reporter: back in texas, she mourns the lose of her daughter, the ashes in this necklace. >> i needed an abortion to protect my life and to protect the lives of my future babies that i dream and hope i can still have some dare. >> reporter: because of the scarring in her uterus from the infection, she may not be able to have more children. she's starting fertility treatments in the hope of one day having a baby she and her husband have dreamed of. cnn reached out to all the defendants in the texas case.
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a spokesperson for the texas attorney general ken paxton says he's quote committed to doing everything in his power to protect mothers, family and unborn children and he will continue to defend and enforce the laws dually enacted by this texas legislature. we've not heard back from the other defendants nor the texas governor greg abbott. >> thank you. the details coming in on the two americans back on u.s. soil after being kidnapped in mexico and tragically two others from their group that are now dead. stay with us.
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we're back with our world lead. two of the citizens captured in mexico have been found alive and recovering in a texas hospital but the other two abducted america ns were killed when the traveled into mexico. they traveled so one of them could get a medical procedure. as josh campbell reports, it appears the group may have gotten lost and they were mistaken for drug runners by a local mexican cartel. >> we extend our deepest condolences to the family and loved ones of the deceased. >> reporter: the search for four americans kidnapped in mexico ending in tragedy. all four have been located but only two of them alive. >> the two survivors have since been repatrioted back to the united states. that assistance of our mexican partners of our officials in mexico. we are in the process of working to repatuate the remains of the
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two americans killed. >> reporter: they have been identified as latavia mcgee, eric williams, zendell brown and w woodard and brown did not survive. mcgee was uninjured and williams shot in the leg. they are back receiving care. >> we condemn what happened and feel sorry for the loss. >> reporter: today the mexican government speaking about the tragedy. >> translator: the victims were found in a wooden house three days after the crime. the four persons who were kidnapped were taken to different places. one of them to a clinic in an effort to make this more confusing and avoid rescue. the investigation is on going to find who is responsible. >> reporter: mexican authorities will pros selszcess the bodies two dead victims. they traveled by car from south carolina so one of them a mother
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of six could undergo a medical procedure. investigators believe after they crossed the border from texas and entered the city they came under gunfire and crashed the mini van according to a u.s. official familiar with the investigation. terrifying video appears one of the americans being shoved into the bed of a pickup truck at gunpoint in broad daylight and taken from the scene. >> translator: one person has been detained. it seems to be there was confusion of mistaken identity but the investigation is still on going. >> reporter: jake, the recovery phase of this terrible episode is over. that investigation is on going and sources tell me that those two surviving american victims will be key witnesses for the team of fbi agents, u.s. federal law enforcement and the mexican counterparts as they were to locate those responsible, jake. >> josh campbell, thanks so much in the backdrop of this tragedy is organized crime in mexico. cnn david culver went to mexico state one of the many spots where fentanyl is produced on a
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high scale. it was once home to joaquin "el chapo" guzman and where cartels continue to run today. he joins me on the u.s. side of the border. you went to culacan to find out fentanyl ends up in the united states. tell us what you found. >> reporter: jake, you really get a sense from our reporting down there just how prolific this is, the spread of fentanyl and how difficult it is to track down. you mentioned the organized crime aspect and cartels is what we stepped into. the city that we went to. let me show you from above what we had to travel in. this is part of an embed with the mexican army. you can see it's a convey of six armored vehicles as they took us through not only the city to patrol and see if they could track down some of the fentanyl labs popping up as they compare it to basically a game of who can a mole. one pops up so quickly that it's very difficult to really stop
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the spread of these labs. and from inside the vehicle, we were talking to one of the colonels working drug busts for 35 years. he's death with cocaine, heroin, meth, fentanyl passes them all in the difficulty of stopping the spread. this is why it's so challenging, jake. it basically a house you're looking at and not even the entirety of the house that's a fentanyl lab but a small room so you compare that to a meth lab and those are rather sprawling and need more infrastructure and need to be near water. a fentanyl lab could be done really in a closet and produce a significant amount of pills. the house, the small room produced 270,000 pills in a buls they made. it's a huge challenge and tonight one we hope to give you more insight on how this is an international blame game involving mexico and china, jake. >> that's right and ends up too often with dead american kids.
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david culver, thanks so much. you can see more of what david uncovered in a special cnn town hall tonight, america addicted, the fentanyl crisis that's tonight at 9:00 only here on cnn. with us now, republican congressman tony gonzalez represents texas' 23rd district and a member of the house homeland security. congressman, always good to see you. we heard the problem of fentanyl coming across the southern u.s. border is pervasive. most of it is done by u.s. citizens at points of entry. americans driving their cars legally into the united states and not disclosing obviously the illegal drugs in their trunk. what can be done about it? >> jake, thank you for having me. i represent 42% of the southern border 823 miles and we're at war and i'm seeing it firsthand. you know, right now, i mean, let this sink in. drug cartels just killed two americans in broad daylight. this is what terrorism looks
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like. i got a bill, the security first act that labels cartels as terrorists. all americans should be in support of keeping these bad actors out and making sure things are safe. at the same breath, all americans should be in support of finding a immigration reform option that focuses on legal immigration. i think this is something that we can solve. it starts in congress. we need the white house's help. the reality is on the boarder, it is pure hell. >> i want to get to the immigration reform aspect of this in a second. to talk about right now, the two americans who were kidnapped in mexico that are now sadly dead, there was also a mexican national, a 22-year-old mom who was also killed in the cross fire. the other two americans have been returned to the u.s. this does appear, this doesn't make it better but this does appear to be a case of mistaken identity confused by the cartels to be competing drug smugglers from haiti. how dangerous is it for u.s. citizens to visit mexico, especially areas like this?
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>> you know, the tough part, jake, i represent a lot of communities along the border like el paso a sister city with jar juarez and eagle pass, in many cases it is safe. in many cases you have u.s. citizens traveling back and forth on a regular basis because ultimately, they are one community but at the end of the day, this border crisis is spreading. i was just until uvalde. you know what happened in uvalde ten months ago. i was speaking with a prominent figure i won't say his name. he told me a story on saturday, he had his granddaughter over for the weekend and his wife was bathing her in the bathtub and someone broke in, an illegal alien broke into their bathtub. he held them at gunpoint until the authorities were able to arrive. what i'm getting at, things are getting more and more dangerous. it is safe in some places but many people along the border do not feel safe. we got to stop with the rhetoric and have tangible solutions that
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keeps people safe. the bad actors out. and also welcomes those that want to come and work and live the american dream. we can accomplish that if we work in a bipartisan manner. >> the americans that went into mexico did so for medical procedures. what advice would you give american citizens doing the same thing for this medical tourism. >> the reality is americans because of the cost of health care are having to travel into mexico every single day. veterans are having to do that. so this is an area where, you know, if folks are going to travel, they need to be safe about it. they need to make sure they know where they're going but once again, not everywhere is a war zone but in some cases, it is absolutely hell. the fentanyl that is killing our kids, we have to push back against that. i'd say a lot of times there is more to the story, go to our website, tony gonzalez for congress.com and learn more what is happening on the boarder. >> congressman, the bipartisan immigration reform you're talking about is an important component about this. the immigration system is broken. how do you get republicans in the house who control the house
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to work with democrats so that they can be -- there can be a bipartisan compromise bill that the senate controlled by democrats will pass and the president who is a democrat will sign? how do you do that? there doesn't seem to be a lot of incentive for house republicans to work across the aisle. >> look, politically you take a lot of risk but you have to be bold and need leadership. on monday i hosted my 16th congressional delegation at the border. we went to uvalde, eagle pass, we listened to republicans and democrats, border security and immigration reform. over 100 members of congress. that's what i'm doing in the house. i also work in a bipartisan manner there. i've also had discussions with senators, republican and democrat senators. i've also had very high level discussions with the hwhite house. to your point, there is an opportunity here jake where we can come with a solution that both solves the border and also welcomes those that want to come through and have work visas and others. nobody wants to put their political life on the line if
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you will but this is an important topic. you mentioned earlier fentanyl is killing our kids, not democrat kids, our kids period. >> right. i mean, just you know this as well as i do, the republican party of texas voted on saturday to censure you for your reliable conservative vote, you don't always vote along party lines. practically that decision, that censure means they're not going to financially support you in the next primary. how can there be any incentive for there to be bipartisan work if the republican party of texas is censuring somebody who is as conservative as you are who just every now and then votes in a different way? >> jake, the reality is they've never given me financial support. you got to kind of build it out your own way. in uvalde, there were 21 innocent people killed, 19 of them were babies and so i'm proud of my vote for the safer community act. if it was today, i would vote the same way. there is a way for us to be consecutive in our values and
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principles. i'll give you an example. right now i have six children. my children, my younger children go to school with a bulletproof backpack. my oldest son who is 18 years old in college, not only does he have a bulletproof backpack but he carry as glock around. this is the world we live in. i don't want my children growing up in this. nobody does. we need real tangible solutions that do not infringe on the constitution. we can accomplish that if people are bold. i spent 20 years in the military. this is no different. >> tony gonzalez, good to see you as always, sir, thank you so much. florida governor ron desantis is laying out the law that might have national implications. stay with us. ing your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a new tool in the chase mobile® app. use it to set and track your goals, bibig and small... and d see how changes you make today... could help put them within reach. from your first big move to retiring poolside and the other goals along the way
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returning to our politics lead, ron desantis delivered a
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speech many see as an audition to a possible run for the white house. cnn leyla santiago is to the state capital in tallahassee. tell us about the governor's to do list. >> reporter: yeah, it's a long to-do list, jake. we certainly heard him sort of tally his political victories in the state of the state address today and it really kind of reflected what we've heard from him over the last few days as he's promoted his recently released book and aligns with what we've seen from republican lawmakers and the bills they filed being the first day of the legislative session. let take a look at those priorities that we've seen with the bills filed. they're calling for allowing for concealed carry without permits. prohibiting abortions after six weeks with exceptions for rape or insist. that by the way was filed minutes before desantis' state of the state began today and education which has certainly
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become obvious. it is a very big priority on their platform. from banning requiring teachers to use students preferred pronouns to, you know, expanding voucher programs and here is what i thought was interesting. the very final words that he used, he said you ain't seen nothing yet. listen to another part of his speech today. >> we must continue our momentum with k through 12 education by increasing teacher salaries, enacting a teacher's bill of rights, providing paycheck protection for teachers, expanding school choice, and fortifying parents' rights. our schools must deliver a good education, not a political indoctr indoctrination. >> reporter: certainly himmntin what is to come in the state of florida and a potential campaign we might hear announced soon. we'll ahave to wait and see and
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about fueling culture wars and what democrat told me is out trumping trump. jake? >> all right. laeyla santiago in tallahassee, thank you. still ahead, why the astro turf in an old stadium is raising questions what is in the turf y
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in our sports lead, questions about a possible link between artificial grass made by monsanto and grain cancer, discovered by a philadelphia enquirer investigation. the reporter looked into the death of six former baseball players, all of them who died of the same cancer. here to discuss is one of the reporters. david, tell us how you and your colleague uncovered this possible connection. >> thanks, jake. so last year, david west, who
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was a former pitcher for the phillies, came the sixth former member of the team to die of brain cancer. so we got curious whether there was a potential connection. we were able to track down pieces of astroturf from the late '70s and '80s and had them tested. one of the labs found 16 different types of chemicals. >> so the vet was also used by the philadelphia eagles during the same time frame. it in longer exists. obviously, the football players, the number of games, is not remotely the same as baseball players in terms of presence on the field. but have you made any diagnoses with former eagles? >> no, but one thing we found is
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that during the summer games, that the turf would sometimes heat up to 165 degrees. some of the experts explained that would sort of allow some of the toxins in the turf to release and become airborne. so that's one possible mode of transmission that we considered. >> this is breaking my heart, because we're showing pictures of some of the philadelphia phillies, players i grew up loving and who tragically died of brain cancer. there he is after they beat the royals in 1980. you can also find these fields in parks and schools at all levels across the country. we don't know if they have these forever chemicaling that were found, but do you hope your report will change the way communities look at turf? >> i think some of that has
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already happened. there are communities in massachusetts and connecticut that are implemented moratoriums on new turf fields. some sates have legislation that would ban outright new turf fields. philadelphia still has quite a few -- or at least a handful of turf fields in the city and are looking at adding some new ones to a city park. i think simultaneously, there's becoming an increasing amount of awareness around these chemicals and the fact that they are linked to a large number of very real human health risks. so i think there's going to be a lot of conversation around this, you know, artificial turf and how we use it and whether it's a good idea to keep putting it in places where children are playing. >> obviously, i'm going to between out the whole story so people can read it.
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