quick update now on the two surviving americans who were kidnapped in mexico. a source telling cnn the two victims are now back in the united states in the care of the fbi. thanks for your time today "inside politics." we'll see you tomorrow. hello, and thank you for joining us. i'm abby phillip in washington. a frantic search for four americans kidnapped in mexico

ends in a tragedy. just a short time ago, all four were found, but two were dead. authorities have not identified the victims, but we do know that a mother of six from south carolina crossed the border from texas with three of her friends for a medical procedure, but investigators believe that once they were in the city of matamoros, they were kidnapped. we have disturbing footage. it shows the terrifying moments friday when at least one of those americans was shoved into the bed of a pickup truck at gunpoint in broad daylight, and not far from the united states border. our correspondents are covering this from all angles. josh campbell, you are getting information from your law enforcement sources about the condition of the victims and where exactly they were found. >> reporter: yeah, abby. i have been talking to sources since this incident began on friday, and to a person, they said, look. we're holding out hope that we will find these four, but the situation was very grim, and

it's because of that video you just showed. this was the dramatic aftermath of that incident where you see a woman being shoved into the back of that truck in this graphic video. there are other people around that truck who don't appear to be moving. they were lifted on that vehicle as they drove away, and so because those people weren't moving, that obviously gave law enforcement great concern. we are learning today from a official familiar with this investigation that all four have been recovered, but sadly two of them are deceased. now the other two among the two that are alive, one of them, the source says, is severely injured. we just learned a short time ago from a source that the two surviving victims are now in the care of fbi agents. they have crossed the port of entry back into the united states where they will be receiving medical attention and medical care at a hospital there in texas, and of course, the fbi is still working this investigation to try to determine who was responsible. so those two surviving victims would be key to interview, to gather as much information as

they can. now i'm told as far as the two deceased american victims, they will be processed, their remains, by the medical examiner's office there in mexico to determine the cause of death, and then after that is complete, a source tells me that they expect the remains to be promptly handed over to u.s. officials where they will then be repatiat ed to the united states. one is still alive, and this happened from after a source saying they were seeking a medical procedure. americans and canadians do this all the time. they travel to mexico for lower cost prescription drugs, lower-priced medical care, but of course, this is apart of mexico where the u.s. state department has this travel warning warning citizens not to go there. this obvious i ely ending in tragedy, and saying this appears at least according to law enforcement that these americans were targeted by mistake, that

it was a gulf cartel group that thought that these americans were part of some haitian drug-smuggling outfit, but targeted these americans by mistake leading to this extremely, extremely tragic event, abby. >> incredibly tragic and some indications in the reporting coming out that perhaps they were lost, trying to get to that doctor's office. dianne gallagher, you're in south carolina where i know you have been speaking to the family members of some of these individuals. authorities have been pretty tight-lipped about their identities, but what are you learning, and what has been the reaction if you've got any so far from those family members about what has happened here? >> you know, abby, what josh said there, i think it's important to remember. these were four friends who took a road trip to support their friend who was according to her mother and her friends, beginning for a medical procedure there in matamoros, something she had done about two to three years ago as well in that same city. three of those four friends were

from lake city, south carolina. they were a tight-knit group we're told, and it became clear to friends and family that something was wrong as early as saturday. we spoke to a close friend of latavia washington mcgee. she was going to get that procedure, and she talked to her friend on friday and told them that basically they got lost. they were reaching out to the doctor's office for directions, but they were struggling to communicate because of spotty cell phone signal. that's what she told her friend. now the friend says she became concerned, and actually reached out to the doctor's office on saturday when they hadn't heard from their friends. we spoke with mcgee's mother as well who said that she was also concerned. family members and friends had been calling. they were just getting voice yn m ynmails and the doctor was

concerned they had missed the appointment. the friend says when they reached out of the doctor's office, the doctor's office did say latavia reached out to them for directions because she was lost. they actually sent a screenshot of the message and sent her the address and asked her if she was using gps. they said the office employee she spoke with messaged the doctor's office -- said she messaged the doctor's office, but the employee did not notice the message until a few hours later. i will tell you, abby, that the aunt of latavi latavia mcgee sa mother said she had been kidnapped and was in danger. her aunt saw a video online where she recognized her niece in that because of her hair and the clothes she was wearing, because, again, these are friends. they were facetiming. they were livestreaming their trip from south carolina down to mexico. she recognized what she was wearing and knew that she was there. again, they could not get in touch with any of them, and this

ended in a way that absolutely nobody wanted to see happen. there was so much hope from family members just last night speaking about, no good news is good news and they were holding out hope this perhaps would have ended differently. latavi latavia m gecgee is a mother ofx children, and we're waiting word for how this will shake out for those kids. >> kylie atwood, the state department, there have been travel warnings for this yarea f mexico. what do you know about what is next? >> well, listen. we heard from the white house national security advisers john kirby expressing condolences to the families of those who were killed in this incident. not getting into the specifics of the circumstances surrounding that yet, he said that the biden administration, u.s. officials are still working with mexican authorities to learn more about really what happened here and what they're focused on, of

course, the trying to get home the bodies of all four americans, of course, as of now, we know that two of them will be dead, and two alive, but trying to get all four of them back to the united states. the other thing that john kirby told reporters is that the biden administration is working to make sure that justice is served, and what that, of course, will involve is not just the state department, but also the department of justice, and we heard from the attorney general earlier today saying that he has been briefed with the fbi on this, and that the justice department is working closely with the state department on this matter, and the next step for state department officials will be notifying the families of these four americans about their status, if they, in fact, awfully died in this instance, or if they're still alive, and what the next steps are in terms of them getting back to the united states, and then we're likely to hear more from the

state department, but abby, it's also important to note that it wasn't just the state department that had very clear warnings to americans to not travel to this area of mexico because of the criminal activity, because of the violence there, because of the kidnappings and the murders, but it's also the cdc that had warned americans against going there for exactly what this woman from south carolina was there for, which is these medical procedures, warning that there can be complications that arise from these procedures that are carried out in this area of mexico. >> yeah. this is clearly a growing problem, not just in mexico, but other parts of the world as well. josh campbell, dianne gallagher and kylie atwood, thank you to all of you. let's bring in a former member of the fbi's rescue hostage team, rob d'amico. you see that woman walking around at gunpoint, but you also see some evidence that there were perhaps people who were not moving. two dead, two alive, one

critically injured. what do you think based on when we know so far happened here? did the hostage-takers go further than what happened in those initial moments perhaps killing or injuring the victims after what we see transpiring on this tape? >> yeah, abby. it was a horrific video. i saw the uncut version yesterday early when our intel analyst sent it to me and it reminded me back of iraq and afghanistan, the freedom of movement that the bad guys were doing. i believe that they were probably injured in the shootout in the car, and i don't think later on anything else happened. looking at that video, i've seen enough of them from over there, i'm actually surprised three are -- or two are alive because the way they're dragging the bodies and everything else that was coming out from it, i was assuming the worst. i knew the woman that was put in the car looked unharmed, but the

other three, i was truly worried about, and i said that the cartel had doctors. they need to get them there so we can start dealing with this, but i feared the worst seeing those images from later days in iraq and afghanistan, the way they were treated. >> we don't know much about what happened there in terms of how they were recovered. we only know that they were found. the fbi is collaborating with mexican officials. how do you think they were able to identify where these people were and get them back? and i should say from what we know so far, the two americans who are alive are back in american custody, but the two bodies of the deceased, they'll have to be recovered by their family members. >> well, yes, ma'am. it's a standard that they're going to process the dead within the country that they were killed because their justice system may be the one that we use. so there's probably fbi or state

department people with those deceased because, again, we want them in our care even though they're in mexican custody. we did this in afghanistan and iraq. we processed them with the home country. we would make sure that they're treated dignified, but we do let the home country do that. the ones that have come back, the fbi's victim assistance are unbelievable. they have a lot of experience. these people have gone through traumatic things. one, you want to get the injured to the right level of care in texas get him or her into the pt ho, and then the other one that we have a case, and again, the mental health of these people is the most important thing. so agents are with them. some of the victims like this want to tell the stories. some wait a little bit, and our agents are used to that, but we'll have psychologists come down and help with those interview, but the process is long. we've arrested people 20, 25 years after they've killed americans around the world.

i have been on those ops, and they're -- as bad as they are, it is justice served after a long time. >> just bottom line here, i mean, would you recommend that americans travel to mexico right now, particularly this part of the country? >> no. people have to really pay attention to the warnings out there. level 4 from the state department is a drastic warning, and you really have to start looking. i think part of it -- she went down there a couple of years ago and had a procedure, so she, i think, felt like, hey. we have done this before. we'll go down and do this, but things get worse, and again, the cartels and other things are coming up. you have to pay attention to where you're traveling. i have four children and i wouldn't recommend it. even though i think mexico will go over the edge on showing the authority in the streets and everything else, and that's probably how we end up getting them back. i think the cartels realize this was a mistake.

there was so much heat from the mexican government, they decided to get them out of their own hands because they just realize it's going to bring more heat down on what they're doing. >> all right, rob d'amico. thank you very much for all of that. and another terrifying incident in the skies. this time on a united airlines flight from los angeles to boston. >> i'm taking over this plane. >> oh my god. uh-oh. >> i'm telling you right now. >> the justice department says that this man tried to open an emergency exit door and then tried to stab a flight attendant in the neck with a broken metal spoon. listen to a passenger who captured it all on her cell phone. >> a couple of passengers tried to talk to him, to calm him down. it was only making him more agitated. a woman tried to approach him and say that, you know, he was scaring the passengers. he didn't care. he was getting louder. many men from the plane jumped

up, followed him, tackled him to the ground, and there were probably about four to six of them that sat on top of him to restrain him. the flight crew, you know, immediately had zip ties to zip tie his feet and his arms. >> cnn's aviation correspondent pete munteen has more details on this incident. >> reporter: united airlines flight 2609 from los angeles to boston, it was a smooth flight for the first five hours on sunday until -- >> so where's the homeland security with the guns? because i'm waiting for them to point the gun at me so i can show everybody thatly i will da when i take every bullet in that clip to wherever in my body they shoot it and then i will kill every man on this plan. >> reporter: the agitated passenger is identified as francisco torres of massachusetts. the video obtained by cnn was reported by a passenger. it shows torres having violent outbursts towards other passengers and flight

attendants. >> i love you, bianca. i'm coming for you. >> reporter: four minutes, nervous passengers sat down and listened. >> nobody cares. nobody cares. where's homeland security? where are they diverting us? wherever it is, there's going to be a blood bath everywhere. >> reporter: 15 seconds lair, torres walks out of his seat, pulls what appears to be a makeshift we out of his jacket pocket and says what no airline passenger ever wants to hear. >> i'm taking over this plane. >> oh my god. uh-oh. >> i'm telling you right now. >> reporter: while united airlines says there were no reported injuries, the justice department says torres rushed towards one of the flight attendants in a stabbing motion with a broken metal spoon hitting the flight attendant on the neck area three times. torres also told law enforcement that he tried to open the emergency door to jump out of the plane. torres also claimed he was defending himself because he

believed the flight crew was trying to kill him. video shows passengers and crew members tackling and restraining torres. a passenger told cnn, torres remained restrained for another 30 minutes before the plane landed safely at boston logan international airport where torres was arrested. >> this is the second high-profile case of an unruly passenger aboard a commercial airliner in as many weeks. torres has been banned from flying on united airlines again. he is being detained, pending a hearing before a judge on thursday. abby? >> all right, pete. thank you for that. now we have david susy joining us now. a lot to talk to you about in the skies, but let's start with the this incident on that flight. you have for so many years in this country, a lot of concern about terroristic incidents happening on plane, but in the oe covid era, it's been a lot of disruptive passengers and

disturbed passengers. when you see what happened, do you think that was handled the way it should have been? >> actually, i think it's a really good sign of what should be and what was tried to be handled at least with an unruly passenger so we can see that they try to calm him down at first. they try to get him calm. it's just not going to happen and he continues to jell. he was not truly a threat to the crew until he left his seat. at that point it really says a lot about the passengers that helped subdue him because there's only a couple of flight attendants, maybe three flight a attendants and trying to get them to control this person would have been impossible. as a passenger to step up to this, i think that was really a smart thing for them to do. >> and there have been a host of other issues in the skies recently. we have been talking a lot about the travel disruptions, whether it's a bird strike or severe turbulence or issues with planes on the tarmac, but particularly with planes on the tarmac, this is a place where there are questions about who's responsible and what can be done to fix it? you've said the only way to

prevent these types of incidents is to slow this system down. who is going to actually make that happen? >> well, the faa has to step forward and start setting some guidelines. currently the faa sets the minimum standards, so what they're saying is if you show them the numbers and you can show safety in this amount of departures in this certain amount of time, then that's what they allow you to do. but the onus of responsibility comes down to the airlines to say, when do they way enough is enough? can we pack so much in tight that we start making mistakes, and i think that is one of the root causes for why we're seeing more and more to of this right now as they're under a lot of pressure to get more airplanes and make up for those losses they had during the covid era, and they're really pushing things forward. i think again, they need to step back and look at how long does it really take to move these airplanes?

did they have all the people necessary? were they fully staffed to do it, and be able to say no when it's time to make a airplane leave and say, we are at our capacity. we have had delays and we're going to just accept what we have now, and just slow things down a little bit. >> yeah. i mean, obviously there's a lot of airline demand and some staffing issues, but safety clearly has to come first here for passengers throughout the system. david, we have to leave it at that, but thank you for your insight into that. >> skof course. the fed chief jerome powell delivering a new warning today on inflation and the debt ceiling. wall street is not taking it well, but it has major implications for all of us. details ahead. plus, china is amping up the tensions with the united states warning of a possible confrontation. what the u.s. is saying about all of that. and florida governor ron desantis is giving a big state of the state address today, and he is not backing away from the culture wars. stake with us. 1y50

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hike sounds like a really bad thing, but it seems to also just be the medicine that the fed thinks that the economy needs right now. >> that's right, abby. we're talking about tough medicine, and it can be painful for both wall street and for main street. let's talk about what it means for consumers. we're talking about higher borrowing costs. it gets more expensive to boar r borrow. credit card rates have never been higher. more expensive to buy a car, student debt as well. why the fed chair is concerned, it's really about inflation. this is the fed's preferred inflation metric. it's two things. one, inflation has cooled off from the peak last summer, but also more recently it has picked up in january. so that has been concerning to the fed chair. that's why he's signaling more rate hikes ahead. as you mentioned, this is not sitting well with investors. markets are starting to price in a greater chance of higher interest rates including, abby,

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breach of the debt limit could wipe out almost a million jobs and cause a mild recession, and that is just a brief breach of the debt limit. i think that moody's economist summed it up best. he said a default would be a catastrophic blow to the already fragile economy. now abby, hopefully we don't get anywhere near there. hopefully congress addresses this issue before it actually does real harm to the economy. >> yeah. it's never a good time to default on your debt, but certainly not at a moment where everyone is anticipating some kind of economic recession down the pike. matt egan, thianks for breaking all of that down for us. up next, the chinese foreign minister in his first news conference on the job. he had strong words of warning for the united states. we'll tell you what he said and what it could all mean. experience t the capability of the complete line of suvs at the invitation to lexus sales event.

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a very sharp warning to the u.s. coming today from china's new foreign minister striking a combative tone in his first news conference since taking the job, and firing off this warning to washington. >> translator: if the united states does not hit the brake, but continue to speed down the wrong path, no amount of guardrails can prevent derailing, and there will surely be conflict and confrontation. >> it's coming at a moment that

relations between the two countries are at their lowest point in decades. just last month those tensions flared even further which the u.s. shot down a suspected chinese spy balloon that had been flying across the continental u.s. let's bring in ian bremer. he's a political iscientist and head of the euwe asia group. he was viewed as someone i believe to be kind of even-tempered in a certain way. were you surprised to hear this kind of rhetoric coming from him today? >> look. i knew him and met with him frequently as ambassador to the united states, and he's very smart. he's very sharp. he's also more than willing to lecture you and he thinks that you're going down the wrong path so i wasn't stunned by today's commentary. i was a little more surprised by president xi jinping on monday

directly call out the united states as being responsible for an effort to contain china. not that he's necessarily wrong, but rather that the chinese president really doesn't make statements like that directly about the united states. he usually leaves it to the so-called wolf warriors, to members of the chinese state media, that sort of thing. the fact that the chinese president has come out directly with this statement and on the back of it, the words you just quoted from the chinese new foreign minister really does imply that this relationship is going to get harder to manage, and it's a warning not just -- not so much to biden who actually has a pretty good relationship one-on-one with xi, but rather to the administration more broadly, to congress, to those that are really a bipartisan agreement that there needs to be a much tougher line in u.s. foreign policy on china. i think the chinese government is saying that doesn't come without a cost. >> yeah. when you hear the language,

conflict and confrontation, and there's translation happening here, do you hear that as a warning about a physical confrontation that could be in the future or just escalating tensions from a diplomatic perspective? >> well, certainly there's a possibility of direct military confrontation. the united states and china are facing each other down in the south china sea over taiwan in the east china sea. there are such military confrontations. they would come from an accident. they would come from escalation that went wrong and was meant to deter or bluster. the united states is vastly more powerful than china is militarily, but i think the real point here is can we see any areas of cooperation which are very important between the two countries. remember that the united states and cohina right now have recor

levels of mutual trade. there are a lot of american citizens that depend on chinese goods. there are a lot of american companies that depend on access to the chinese market, and the chinese and the kmchinese econo and their growth depends on that as well. the chinese government is increasingly saying that we're not going to be able to maintain that level of engagement with this kind of mistrust and confrontation with the americans in areas that are important to china trying to contain the chinese. >> well, what can be done then to cool things off? i mean, it seems like things are heading in the exact opposite direction. the united states is warning china, don't get involved with ukraine, warning of really severe consequences. those are their characterizations. what can we do at this point to bring the temperature down? >> well, first, the easiest thing is a lot more direct engagement between high-level official on both sides. part of the reason that the relationship is where it is right now is because for three years with covid and with

china's zero covid policies, they just weren't traveling. i had any first meeting with a high-level chinese delegation that isn't the chinese ambassador to washington just a few weeks ago in munich at the security conference. they -- i wasn't going to china. they weren't coming to the u.s., and so that problem is endemic among senior chinese officials because when you spend that little time talking to each other, you start to stereotype. you start to believe what your own colleagues are saying 100% of the time. you start believing your own media. so we need to get that en engagement going again across all levels of the u.s. and the chinese government because these are two of the most powerful countries in the world. there also has to be, and i think it's useful that after the balloon was shot down -- it was very unfortunate that when the secretary of defense tried to call china, they didn't pick up the phone, the minister of defense, but the conversation that happened between the secretary of state in the u.s.

and his counterpart in china did have the choinese admitting tha the foreign ministry didn't know that the balloon was off course, should have called the americans. yes, it was knocked off course by the wind. you didn't intend to do that. that was useful. mccarthy -- kevin mccarthy saying that he's not going to make a trip to taiwan, which would be an unnecessary provocation of the chinese, and the taiwanese don't want him to go. they don't want that problem. that's useful. i think the most important point is that the provocations in this relationship should be necessary provocations, that they should be in places where the national security of both countries is actually at stake. they shouldn't be just to put points on the board politically. >> yeah. >> and there's been too much of that frankly, especially from the american side over the past six months, one year. i think if tempers could calm around that, we would be in a much better place. >> and there is now a joint, bipartisan committee on china happening in -- on capitol hill.

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florida's and maybe the country's top cultural warrior. >> now's got the time to rest on our laurels. we have the opportunity and indeed the responsibility to swing for the fences so that we can ensure florida remains number one. don't worry about the chattering class. ignore all the background noise. keep the compass set to true north. we will stand strong. we will hold the line. we won't back down, and i can promise you this. you ain't seen nothing yet. >> joining me now to discuss all of this, scott jennings, former special assistant to president george w. bush and maria cardona. i'll start with you, scott. this was popular in florida, desantis at least when he was running for re-election the last time around, but just to give

the audience a taste of the culture war issues we're talking about, he was talking about a, quote, biomedical security state, banning drag shows, banning treatment for trans kids, even banning certain majors, what you can study at public universities. y i mean, my curiosity is, is this a platform that can win where republicans need to win in the suburbs and in a general election population in this country? >> i don't know. ask the voters of florida who just re-elected ron desantis with a 20-plus point margin. he took counties that had never voted republican and turned them red. whatever he's doing down there and the way he's presenting it is popular with the voters of florida, whether they're rural, suburban, independent, republican, he's got a wide-governing coalition and that's not me talking. that's the voting results from the last election. the things he's talking about today, i think it's actually going to be pretty popular in a republican primary, and i think the real dividing line between him and trump or anyone else is

anyone can complain about the stuff you're worried about, but i'm the one who finishes it. that's where you'll see his campaign messaging go. >> that's exactly my point. it's popular in a republican primary, but i think it remains to be seen, and i think florida is more -- you would probably agree with me, a red state than a purple state at this moment. maria, i mean that question to you. i mean, are democrats concerned just given how widespread these culture war platforms are? it's not just desantis, but a lot of the other candidates too. are democrats concerned this could resonate with enough voters that it would give republicans an edge in the next presidential? >> absolutely. democrats have to be concerned because it's the only way that we're going to be fighting against what i believe is an incredibly destructive agenda that ron desantis is putting out there, and look, you know, scott's right. he won in florida, but to your point, i don't believe florida's representative of the mainstream

america anymore, and frankly democrats did not really compete in the governor's race in florida, you know, if we're going to be truthful about it. what i believe is going to be ron desantis' big challenge is that, yes. this is working in the republican primary. this is working with the maga extremist wing of the republican party, but he is so obsessed with fighting "woke," that he's asleep at the switch about the other issues that mainstream, common sense americans, even other republicans know are going to be the issues that will decide a general election. that is not book-banning. that is not focusing ongoing against and attacking the lgbtq community. that is not whitewashing american history so that white people can feel better about something that we absolutely need to learn about, and our kids absolutely need to learn

about, and i think all of those issues are going to be front and center in a general election, and it still remains to be seen whether ron desantis can even make it out of florida in a republican primary, and i know that's something that scott and other republicans who are scared about donald trump becoming their nominee as they should be, think that he will, but he is still not a -- not someone who has proven that he can be appealing outside of florida. >> well, let's ask about that. scott, i wonder. i mean trump's stronghold in the republican party is these non-college educated white voters, right? ron desantis does very well with donors and college-educated voters perhaps. do you see him making inroads with the kind of trump wing of the party that might be necessary? maybe it's not necessary even to get through the primary, but to win a general election? >> yeah. great question, and i think you're looking at the republican primary the exact right way.

trump's good with the non-college. desantis is right now dominating with the college. i can see desantis cutting into the trump non-college, but i can't see trump cutting into the college-educated voters. i see upside for desantis here. look at the net faves. desantis has never proven himself outside of florida, that's true. donald trump has run three times now and he's in the middle of his third campaign and we know what the results of that >> i think nationally ron desantis looks pretty good and for a lot of republicans, whatever their stripes are, florida has become sort of the model governing protocol for what republicans think is the way you ought to do it. and so i think that's why desantis is being so strident in his state of the state today and his policy initiatives, because he knows that florida, the way they're governing in florida not only works there but is pleasing to republican ears of all

stripes around. the last thing i'll say regardless of who you support now in a republican primary and regardless of who you voted for in the past, all republicans want to beat joe biden. i think desantis will have a strong case that he can do it and trump cannot. >> well, we have to leave it there. we'll be talking about this, i promise you, for the next many, many months. scott jennings, maria cardona, both of you thanks so much. we'll be right back. lly get a j. the house whispererer! this housese says use realtor.com to see h homes in your budget. you're staying inin school, jacob! realtor.com. to each their home. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. uhhhh... here, i'll take that. [woo hoo!] ensu max protein, with 30 grams of protein, one am of sugar and nutrients for immune health.

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