good thursday morning i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim sciutto. we are following breaking news this morning out of michigan. cnn learning disturbing details about a plot aimed at killing jewish elected officials in the state. among those targeted the michigan attorney general. we'll break down the details of that plot. coming up. plus today a pennsylvania man is expected in court after investigators say he hid explosives inside his luggage headed for orlando. investigators arrested him after he fled the airport. the latest on that case and the growing skcrutiny facing the aviation industry.

and meeting with sergey lavrov for the first time since russia invaded ukraine. we'll bring that conversation to you. we want to begin with the breaking news out of michigan. the state's attorney general confirming she was one of the targets in a plot to kill jewish elected officials in that state. >> polo sandoval and john miller joining us now. polo, first tell us the details of the plot as we know them. >> reporter: i did reach out to her office this morning, they responded saying she will not be commenting further beyond what she has shared on social media earlier this morning when she wrote on twitter that the bureau had, quote, informed, at least confirmed, i was a target of a heavily armed defendant in this matter. the attorney general then writes it is my sincere hope that the federal authorities take this crime as seriously as my office

takes it. referring to a man who took to twitter on february 15th to issue a threat to michigan state officials and specifically writing that he was quote headed back to michigan now threatening to carry out the punishment of death to anyone that is jewish in the michigan government if they don't leave or confess. the next day the michigan state police working with fbi were able to track him to michigan. his mother telling investigators he had possession of three handguns, a shotgun, and at least two hunting rifles. his mother also providing a cell phone, and with that is how investigators were able to track him down to the fort worth, texas area. carpenter is still scheduled for a hearing. we're reaching out to find out if he had possession of the weapons. but extremely concerning for officials in michigan in light

of the kidnapping attempt that was foiled against michigan's own governor. >> understandably concerning given what you pointed out has happened in the state. and when we look at the rise in anti-semitism in the country. i'm looking quickly at stats. 2021 was the highest year on record for documented reports of harassment, vandalism, and violence directed against jews it's part of a consistent five-year upswing in anti-semitic incidents. how is this figuring into the way law enforcement is tracking and looking out for plots like this? >> you look at a threat like this, and you know, you can argue people post things on social media, it could be an empty threat. but it's a clear violation of title 18, section 875, which is making threats through interstate commerce, in this case social media. but you look at, is it a serious threat does the person have the ability to carry it out? here you have an individual who declared his own property in

michigan a sovereign state that doesn't recognize the u.s. government, has numerous weapons and is claiming he's going back home to shoot people. so he certainly has the capability to carry out. but you also have to look at that climate. i mean, on february 3rd, in san francisco, an individual opens fire with a gun shooting blanks screaming anti-semitic statements in a synagogue in san francisco. on february 17th, you had two jewish men leaving different synagogues in west l.a. shot by an individual who drove from the palm springs area to target jews. and you have this atmosphere of these echo chambers online p fermeanting this. >> you do. it is disturbing and important we stay on this story. john, polo, appreciate it, thank you both. a man accused of putting explosives into a checked bag

for a flight from pennsylvania to florida set to appear in court later this afternoon. >> mark muffly, pirctured there w was arrested after his suitcase triggered an alarm earlier this week. danny feedman is in allentown, pennsylvania. what do we know about the suspect? if you're hiding it in the lining you're trying to sneak it past. what kind of explosives? >> reporter: these are the questions that fbi investigators are working through now. why these explosives were in the suitcase. i'll tell you what we know about mark muffly, 40 years old from lanceford, pennsylvania, about an hour from where we are here at the lehigh valley airport. he had the explosives allegedly in his suitcase and tried to

board a flight to orlando on monday. but the suitcase didn't get far. i'm going to tell you what the tsa and a bomb technician found. they found powder, a can of butane, a lighter, a wireless drill, and two outlets taped together. at that point federal agents said this was a significant risk to the aircraft and passengers. now once the tsa found this bag, they looked at the luggage and the luggage had a luggage tag on it with mr. muffly's name, they paged for him over the airport pa system on that point he was seen on security camera turning around and leaving the airport. but later that evening the fbi was able to track him down to his home and arrest him without incident. he is currently facing two federal charges first possessing an explosive onin an airport an

attempting to place an explosive on a plane. he is due in court at 1:30, and we'll hopefully get more answers to the questions they were asking initially. >> appreciate it, thank you. more trouble in the skies to tell you about. a scary moment aboard a spirit airlines flight. a battery caught fire in an overhead bin. when they opened the bin, the backpack was on fire. smoke in the cabin. >> so who came to the rescue? a retired new york firefighter jumped into action to extinguish the flames, the flight was destined to orlando, landed safely in jacksonville, florida. the faa is investigating that incident. and turbulence on a flight headed from texas to germany overnight, forced the plane to land at dulles airport in

virginia. this video shows the aftermath. it happened 90 minutes after takeoff. one passenger told cnn, quote, it was unexpectedly free falling for five seconds off the top of the roller coaster, plates and glass were at the ceiling. at least seven people had to be taken to the hospital. the incidents are rare on airlines when we hear about them, they're scary because in the middle of one it wouldn't be pleasant. tell us what we're hearing. >> reporter: the ntsb said it's the most common type of incident. the agency will announce by the end of the day whether or not it's investigating this incident on flight 469, austin to fra frankfurt. the plane went through a severe and unexpected turbulence. the faa is investigating now.

but the question here is whether or not this was clear air turbulence, which is a big risk to pilots because it's something they cannot see visibly. look at the damage on board there. this was an air bus a-330. that type of airplane weighs about 200 tons fully loaded. this was incredible force causing that debris to be thrown around the cabin. there are some reports that some crew members were hurt, some passengers were seriously injured. also that the plates from the glassware, food service went to the ceiling at one point. when the flight diverted to dulles outside of d.c. in virginia. first responders met the plane at the gate. and i want to read the statement from the airlines. this is clear turbulence that can occur without advance warning. the flight crew made a landing

at dulles after flying through the turbulence. this is not all that dissimilar to an incident on an hawaiian airlines flight in january when passengers were hurt on that flight when it went through severe turbulence. just underscores the reasons why you should wear your seat belt even if the seat belt sign is off. it's not only a big risk to you, it's a risk to the cabin crew. they're often the ones hurt in incidents like this. >> all of us annoyed by it but when you see incidents like that, you see the reason. pete muntean, thanks so much. we are 20 minutes away from the defense's closing arguments in the alex murdaugh murder trial. the final piece of a courtroom drama that has now lasted almost six weeks. >> the defendant was the one person who was living a lie. the defendant is the person on

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afternoon. >> diane gallagher is outside the corpourthouse. these are big moments what do we expect to see today and how do we expect things to proceed from there? >> reporter: i do not anticipate the defense will take as long in its closing argument, which are set to begin in about 15 minutes or so, as the prosecutor took yesterday. during his three-hour speech, if you will, his argument to the jurors, he essentially focussed on the time line and technology to say that alex murdaugh was the only person who had the motive and the opportunity to kill paul and maggie murdaugh on june 7, to2021. we've been here nearly six weeks. there's a host of evidence, data, video, testimony, that they have all heard. but there's a lot they don't have as well. creighton waters brought the

emotion trying to explain in their view explaining that alex murdaugh is a liar and a thief, and he cannot be trusted. >> maggie sees what happens and she comes running over there, running to her baby. probably the last thing on her mind thinking that it was him who had done this. she's running to her baby while he's gotten picked up the blackout and opens fire at close range, again with no defensive wounds. everyone who thought they knew who he was, he's fooled them all, and he fooled mag fgie and paul too. and they paid for it with their lives. don't let him fool you too. >> reporter: now creighton waters talked about all the evidence they presented but he also had to talk to the jury about the fact this is

circumstantial evidence, while they say there is a lot of it, he tried to explain circumstantial evidence can still get them to a guilty verdict. he spent a substantial amount of time explaining what reasonable doubt means. here's the thing, alex murdaugh has admitted to a lot on the stand, both lying and stealing. what he has not admitted to is killing his wife and son, he's maintained his innocent the entire time. once the defense begins their argument i expect to hear a lot about reasoned and circumstantial evidence. >> thanks so much. joining us to discuss sarah ford, a former prosecutor and legal director for the south carolina victim assistance network. and host of palmetto prime time. good to have you on, sarah. it's a sad case at every level, all the details. you have two different burdens for the prosecution and defense. the defense has to create a reasonable doubt among the 12 jurors, even just one of the 12

jurors. i wonder, do you believe they have? >> i do believe that the state has met the burden. you know, reasonable doubt is not doubt beyond any doubt. it is not 100%. and it's a standard that means that the jury has to find they are firmly convinced of the defendant's guilt. and i think the state has done that. it's been a difficult trial, it's been a long trial but i think overall the evidence that the state has, particularly the way kracreighton water creighto waters pulled it together yesterday for the jury was strong and effective. >> it sounds to me in listening to that, you would have brought this case? >> absolutely. absolutely. the evidence is there, you know, it's important for folks to remember, circumstantial evidence, derek irect evidence evidence. there's no distinguishing in the

law between the two of them. so it's more difficult to build the pieces with circumstantial evidence but just because there's not a video or eyewitness that doesn't make it any less appropriate to bring the case. and the circumstantial evidence is here in this case, in my opinion. >> that's a point the prosecutor made in opening a arguments, don't imagine that circumstantial evidence is somehow second tier here. we had the dramatic moment with the jury visiting the scene of the crime yesterday at the request of the defense, actually. what impact do you see that having on this case? >> i think it's very emotional for people to have heard everything they've heard over the past six weeks and then to actually visit the location where paul and maggie murdaugh lost their lives. to be there, standing outside the feed room, to be there at the kennels. to feel, you know, the emotion in that place after visualizing it. very, very powerful. and i think it certainly will

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reveal some of the network's hosts endorsing what they knew were lies about the 2020 election being stolen. >> those revelations part of the billion dollar lawsuit brought by dominion voting systems against fox. in a recent interview, ryan defended his role on the board. >> is there a red line for you at any point where you say i cannot be associated with a company that does this? >> i want to see the conservative movement get through this moment. i think fox is a big part of the conservative movement. >> the solution or the problem? >> i think it's going to have to be part of the solution if we're going to solve the problem of the conservative movement. >> oliver darcy joining us now. ryan said he did push back on the conspiracy theories. his comments also interesting about problems and solutions. is there evidence to support these claims that i did push back on this? i tried?

>> there is some evidence that suggests he did push back privately with the murdochs. one email he sent he said, the sooner we can put down the echos of falsehoods from our side the faster we can get to the principled loyal opposition, i hope our contributors get that and execute. a few things i just note about that. one he's referring to to fox news, which is an impartial news network as loyaled opposition, so that's one. he's understanding what it is. >> that would be an issue, yeah. >> but the other thing if you talk to experts in corporate gove governance, they say this is not enough, the private pushing back in emails doesn't cut it. he's supposed to be working for the sharedholders not the murdochs. so it's his responsibility to alert shareholders or do something more than just email

the murdochs if he sees something. he can speak out against the stuff but at the end of the day he's cashing a paycheck based on the lies he's seeing spewed on the network. >> yeah. >> so oliver, there seems to be talk now of the network chief, perhaps, facing consequences here. what's the likelihood of that, are there any consequences for the several prominent hosts of the network who deliberately spread election lies knowing they were false? >> it's hard to imagine when the dust settles that there are no consequences for anyone. it seems someone is going to have to be the fall person here. if you look at this, pay attention, all signs are really pointing toward the embattled fox news ceo, suzanne scott. murdoch in his testimony is distanciing himself from the decision making saying it's not me.

i appointed suzanne scott, i delegate everything to her. if you're looking at this, reading the tea leaves, it looks like she would be the fall person and it's not unprecedented in murdoch history for someone senior like this to end up being expelled from his media empire. look at the news of the world scandal, there were high profile resignations. even his own son, james, had to resign in that scandal. and he did fire roger ails when he was accused of sexual misconduct. he got rid of bill o'reilly. so he is willing to, if push comes to shove, make decisions to get rid of high level personnel. >> you're not hearing the stars themselves will face consequences given they're the ones that pushed the lies. >> it's hard to imagine that someone like sean hannity is going to face consequences. they're the engine of the profit

making machine. it's easy to throw someone like suzanne scott under the bus but someone like sean hannity is going to be more difficult. president biden is set to meet behind closed doors with democrats as he tries to unite the party ahead of the looming budget. also today, an annual gathering of conservatives at what was once a show case of the best and brightest in the gop. it has been abandoned now by some of the party's own top officials and leaders. here's a list of some skipping c pac. it won't include mike pence, ron desantis, kevin mccarthy. joining us now to discuss, heidi heidi, is c pac still relevant?

>> for a long time c pac was the proving ground for the grass roots. and this is slowly evolved to a stage really for the mag ga movement. you put up the names of the big stars of the republican party right now who might be in contention, and they're not coming. they're going to be at a fund-raising donor network event at palm beach. it's trump and nikki haley coming. this is a sign how c pac has become a stage for trump to get the vishuals of him and the adoring maga crowds. but many of the sponsors who used to come to this, be front a center, frockox news, the rnc at even sponsoring the event. you have the chairman under a cloud of sexual assault allegations. so to answer your questions, it's not what it used to be. which is the major first straw

poll proving event for the brightest talent of the future. >> as we showed the list of folks going. you have one announced gop candidate, nikki haley, two i should say, trump as well, and also one expected in mike pompeo. you wrote about how similar the moment is to 2016 when you have a lot of republicans saying they don't want trump to be the nominee. of course in 2016, he ended up being the nominee and then became the president. what evidence is there that there's a fundamental change here, right? there are a lot of commonalities. the private hesitation, et cetera, but folks not willing to go public with the criticisms. could we end up in the same place? >> the glaring one is trump has a governing record. we know what he would be like as president. but beyond that, there is an interest in other candidates that there wasn't in 2016 -- or there wasn't in 2016. look at ron desantis, there's a

lot of overlap and there's shifting among public officials who previously liked or supported trump and are now supporting desantis. so in some ways, it's not a carbon copy. but at the same time we're looking at what's mostly to be a large republican primary field. and that will probably benefit trump in the end. >> there's so much talk about that, how the large field could end up benefitting donald trump because he could walk away with the biggest piece of the pie. how much is that private discussion influencing who will throw their hat in the ring? >> right now it doesn't seem it is. because you have his former vice president down there in palm beach talking to donors. nikki haley outwardly making statements such as wink wink i think those individuals age 75 and older should have a mental test in running for president. that is a direct hit on trump

and biden. and i think we still have to see how it will play out because they have to balance the fact that right now he is the consensus candidate. he does have the biggest faction in every poll of the majority of republican primary voters. he has a loyal base. and even though what daniel says is true that in 2016 he became the candidate just by virtue of there being a huge field, right now he's arguably even more powerful despite that governing record because that is a guaranteed consolidated base. so the more of them who get in there, if he's able to sully them with the way he did with ma ma marco rubio or jeb bush. that could be effective if they can't get in the room and say we need one consolidated more main stream candidate to take him on. >> he's trying it now with ron desantis with the names he's

road testing. i wonder for a moment before we go, if we could talk about 2024 senate. the senate map for democrats more difficult this time around. the michigan representative elissa slotkin, she is throwing her hat in the ring to replace debbie stabenow. is she a strong candidate for democrats as they look at the map in 2024? >> we're on the eve of the senate elections, but at the same time we've seen that slotkin has done a good job clearing the field. most of the other likely democratic candidates, garland gillchrist, for instance, are not running this time around. and that, i think, speaks to the ability of slotkin to pose a sort of unifying message. but she's going to have to put up a front, because there will be some kind of republican nominee and republicans know that michigan is not a deep blue

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secretary of state antony blinken speaking live after meeting the russian foreign minister at the g20, the first time they met since russia invaded ukraine more than a year ago. let's listen in. >> the united states didn't want this war. we worked hard to prevent it. like most country we want to focus on the challenges affecting the daily lives of our people. even as we stand with ukraine as it defends itself as any nation would do. we're determined to keep working with countries to deliver solutions to these shared challenges. that's what we did today at the g20. the challenges include the food security crisis around the world. we have to two things at once, get food to the hungry now. but also help countries build up their agricultural resilience so they're less vulnerable to future shocks. the united states is leading on two fronts, in addition to half of the budget we contributed

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a coordinated global effort. >> secretary of state blinken speaking late at night at the g20. kylie atwood is joining us now with more. a lot of interest in his remarks because blinken met with sergey lavrov for the first time since last year. they met on the sidelines here. what do we know about the meeting and who initiated it? >> this is the highest level meeting between u.s. and russian officials since the russian invasion, the ukraine war gan. and the last time the secretary of state was meeting with lavrov was the month before the invasion where he warned of the costs and consequences if russia went ahead with the invasion. obviously russia went ahead anyways. so it's really significant here that it was the secretary of state who initiated this conversation. we're told by a senior state department official that it

lasted only about ten minutes and he had three points he made in this conversation. he pressed that russia should reverse the decision to get out of the new start treaty, the single lasting arms agreement between the u.s. and russia which russia announced they were going to be departing earlier this month and pressed for an m american, paul whelan, to be released. and now blinken and lavrov have been in the same place a number of times over the last year but they haven't actually had direct dialogue. that's why this is significant. i think it's important to note a senior state department official after this conversation said there's no expectation of near term changes after this conversation. so we're not looking at a

conversation that represents a diplomatic break through here. rather what this was was an opportunity for the secretary of state to in-person deliver clear messages from the united states that we have obviously heard publically espoused by the secretary of state and president biden but that they haven't told the russian foreign minister face-to-face over the course of the last year. >> listen, talking is better than not talking, right. the lack of diplomatic contact has consequences but it shows the gulf between those two countries right now. >> it does. appreciate it, kylie. also news just into us here at cnn from inside the murdaugh trial this morning, the judge removing a juror. stay with us we'll tell you why on the other side of this break. helping them achieve financial freedom. we're providing greater access to investing, with low-cost options to help maximize savings. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future.

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center. this morning one of to nfl's top prospects is facing charges in connection with a car crash that left one of the uga and staffer dead. the player left the combine to turn himself into police. carter is charged with reckless

driving and racing in connection with the crash that killed devin lacroy and he were racing at more than 100 mrmz and he says that when all of the facts are known, i will be exonerated. the writer for nbcsports.com, and before we get to what happened with jalen carter, the families of chandler bullock and -- chandler lacroix and

de devin's families? >> no, they have not made it public, this is what we have told the families, but the uga is keeping it kwee yet. >> and kirby smart is calling this concern. how is the team handling this? >> well, the team, they were, it is the highest of the highs and the lowest of the lows. they had just celebrated the second national championship after 34 years. the they had the parade and the whole town turned out for them, and the epitome of celebrating the hard work and then find out that a teammate and beloved staffer had been injured and then killed. so there is a dark cloud there.

so they are handling it as well as they can, but it is not a good situation. >> no, it was that you phrased it perfectly, the highs of the highs and the lowest of the lows. and carter's story changed, because he said that he was not there and then he was along the crash, and then he left the scene before returning two hours later and it is raising a number of questions obviously, and it is impossible to ignore the question on a lot of people's mind, how does the nfl handle this and i was struck by this observation that charles mcdonald of yahoo! writing that this is the slimier part of the nfl, if a player is talented enough at what they do, the sins of the past can be forgotten, and is this how this plays out? >> absolutely. it is not to say that jalen carter should be branded for this at life. he did not cause the accident. he was doing something very

stupid. he was racing and someone died for it. chandler mccoy and devin died for it. so if the police could charge him with something stronger than a pair of misdemeanors they would. so to the nfl, this guy is a difference-maker, so they will take him, and they say, well, maybe he dropped a lot, but i don't think that he will, because he is a top pick, because the nfl will say it is a pair of misdemeanor and he is a difference-maker and he is a multimillion athlete for a reason. and so he is right, they will look past it, but at the same time they will not hang him out the dry for years. >> has anything changed for what the nfl teams are looking at in terms of the prospect beyond being a difference-maker on the field, is there more that comes to play in light of the challenges that they are putting

extra kindly of what the nfl has dealt with or not dealt with depending upon how you look at it? >> when you are looking at some of the stuff they have let pass and some of the top players with nasty allegations, and those guys keep playing, but he has a couple of minor violations and there are other tickets that he has received and he is a superstar there, so i could see the nfl saying, it is not big enough for us to pass on him. >> and so great to have you there for us there to walk through this, radi. thank you. >> thank you. come up next, the alarming new details about the alleged plot to kill the michigan attorney general and other jewish elected officials in the state, and what the investigators are now revealing about the suspect. that's what you get from the morgan stanley client experience. you get listening more than talking, and a personalized plan

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