>> red hat, red pants and blake and white shirt. and that is in the upper right hand corner, would you agree that has the date of may 25th, 2020? >> yes. >> and that's the person that that you and mr. floyd had purchased controlled substances from? >> yes. >> now in the january and february time frame, were you and mr. floyd fleeing and free from using opioids? >> can you repeat that? >> were you clean and soeber in january and february? >> january and february, western not really talking to each other. so i don't know. >> so you were on the break at that point? >> yes. >> and then you reconnected some

time in march, right? >> yes. >> and was there an incident in march that required mr. floyd to be hospitalized? >> yes. >> and that was -- can you describe for the jury what that incident was? >> what date? >> in march. >> we went to the hospital a quum t couple times in march. >> he was hospitalized for a more extended period of time in march, right? >> yes. >> that's the incident i'm talking about. i understand he went once because he hurt his hand, cut his hand on glass or something? >> yes. >> that was a shorter hospital stay? >> yes. >> but then there was an extended hospital stay in march. can you explain to the jury what lead up to that hospital stay? >> yes. floyd, i went to go pick floyd up from his house that night. i thought i was taking him to work. he wasn't feeling good.

his stomach really hurt. he was doubled over in pain. just wasn't feeling well. he said he had to go to the hospital. i took him straight to the hospital. we went to the e.r. and they were checking him out in the e.r. and it was getting late. i had to go to work myself that friday night. >> did you learn that was due to an overdose? >> yes. >> objection, your honor. lack of personal noknowledge. >> overruled. >> you spent several days with him at the hospital, correct? >> yes. >> and did you learn what caused that overdose? >> no. >> at that time frame, did you learn that mr. floyd was taking anything other than opioids? >> no.

>> you did not know that he had taken heroin at that time? >> no. >> now then in march of 2020, you got some pimlls, right? >> yes. >> and can you describe what the pills were like? >> like physically? >> physically. >> well, they looked different to me than a normal pill. they seemed like they were thicker. >> were they uniform in their size? >> they weren't. >> did they have markings on them? >> yes, they did. >> and you and mr. floyd both had those pills? >> yes. >> and did you consume some of

those pills? >> i did. >> did they have the same effect on you as they did as your other types of opioids you had taken in the past? >> no. >> what was the effect this time? what was different? >> you know, it was kind of relaxing, takes your pain away. the pill that time, it seemed like it was a really strong stimulant. i couldn't sleep all night. i felt very jittery. >> you felt what? >> very jittery. >> okay. and so they were -- these were pills that were not bought from someone who you knew to have a valid prescription for purposes? >> no. >> were these pills purchased from mr. hall? >> no.

>> were these the pills that caused mr. floyd's overdose? >> i don't remember. >> but you describe when you picked him up that night, so you must have reconnected because you had kind of a little bit of a break. right? >> yes. >> reconnected. when you picked him up that night, he was just in incredible pain, doubled over being right? >> yes. >> his stomach hurt very badly? >> yes. now, i want to focus our attention on your statement that you gave to the fbi. >> you had an opportunity to answer questions of the -- that

the prosecution had of you regarding that statement as late as of yesterday, right? you and i never met before, right? >> not that i believe. >> and so i have not had an opportunity yet to ask you about some of the information in your statement. >> no. >> when you met with the fbi, you informed fbi agents that -- >> i'm going to object. this is a form of cross-examination. >> sidebar .

>> we've been watching day four of the testimony in the trial of derek chauvin. you're watching emotional testimony from his former girlfriend. i want to spend more time on this. laura coates, this was an emotional start to this morning. we didn't know much about his girlfriend. but we learned about their relationship. dating back to august of 2017. she described how they met, their courtship, when they had on and offs in their relationship. how he was george floyd, how he was as a father. and also the drug use and the drug addiction that they both struggle with. what stood out to you the most in that testimony? >> well, all of that -- particularly the idea of the prosecution strategy. people may wonder to themselves, why would the prosecution use the time and case and its own witnesses to essentially cast george floyd in what we perceive

in the negative light. drug use, opioid addiction, possibly a counterfeit bill at one point, the idea of whether he was under the influence. it's because as the prosecutor, you want to present and address and resolve the bad facts. you don't want to have the defense be able to say, hey, jury, why didn't they tell you about this? here are the things they don't want you to know. sprinkling seeds of doubt what the prosecution may not want you approach to. they're going to say, okay. so what? so what? in the course of addiction, it is different than decades ago. how does this actually impact chauvin's decision to act? >> of course, do you sense that bit of sensitivity from the defense attorney as well. let's return to the room. >> did you agree that is from time to time that he would spend time with him?

>> yes. >> and you didn't like that, did you? excuse me. i didn't like maurice very much, no. >> would mr. floyd be honest with you when he told you that he -- when he was with him? >> i'm going to object, your honor. >> that is sustained. you don't have to answer that one. >> you knew mr. empfloyd would purchase narcotics from mr. maurice hall? >> i don't know that. i speculated that. >> do you recall the fbi agent asking you did mr. floyd purchase controlled substances from mr. maurice hall?

>> yes. >> and do you recall saying, yes? had. >> i did say yes but i didn't see it with my own eyes. >> how long is this? >> okay. now the pills that were purchased in march that you described, did you know that those were purchased from mr. hall? >> what -- >> the pills that you described in march of -- >> no, i didn't know. >> but those are the pills that kept you up, you said, all night, right? >> yes. >> did those pills continue to be around from march through may? >> i don't know.

>> do you recall getting the same pills from the same source from march to may? >> i don't recall that question. >> would it refresh your recollection to review a transcript? >> yes. >> i'm sorry . [ inaudible ] >> from the beginning? >> no, from here down. >> okay.

>> honestly, i was in such shock. i don't know what i mean by some of the things i said. [ inaudible ] >> nonresponsive. i want that stricken. >> he did ask a question. >> sidebar. >> and we're taking another sidebar right now in the cross-examination of george floyd's former girlfriend, courtney batia-ross. we'll go to a quick break and return to the courtroom.

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>> okay. >> this again is to refresh your memory. so there is not a question before you that you need to answer yet. >> it says he was buying drugs from her . >> does that refresh your recollection? >> yes. but none of that said he was buying drugs from her. >> you were asked do you know who the woman was that he would have gotten that from? and your response was shawanda hill?

>> yes. >> i was speculating, i didn't know that. >> you said he liked getting drugs from her and you said mm-mmm. >> i said that in the transcript, yes. >> those same pills, you ultimately got some of those same pills from march or similar pills in may of 2020, correct? >> we got pills in may that remind me of the same feeling. i don't know if they were the same pills. i don't know where they came from. >> so you had a second experience with those pills, right? or a similar feeling to those pills? >> i had a similar experience, yes. >> and that was approximately a week before mr. floyd's passing? >> yes. >> and by similar experience, you -- do you recall telling the

fbi that when you have that, you fement like you were going to die? >> i don't remember saying that. but i did see it in the transcript. >> is that how you felt, like you were going to die? >> i don't remember feeling that way, no. i didn't -- i don't recall even saying that. >> okay. you and floyd, mr. floyd, excuse me, i'm assuming like most couples had pet names for each other? >> yes. >> and what was his name for you? let me -- sftrike that. what were you saved in his phone as? >> momma. >> now approximately a week prior to mr. floyd's death, you

and mr. floyd, again, purchased pills from mr. maurice hall, correct? >> do you recall telling the fbi that you bought pills from mr. hall one week prior to mr. floyd's death? >> yes. i wasn't there. i didn't -- i wasn't there. i didn't see anything happen. >> yesterday when you met with prosecutors, can you tell them that you were in the car at a hotel? >> yes. >> when those pills were purchased? >> yes. >> and that you were on the phone with mr. floyd at that time? >> yes. >> and you heard a voice in the background? >> yes. >> and that was the voice you recognize to be mr. hall? >> i thought so, yeah.

>> and so between mr. hall -- excuse me, mr. floyd's hospitalization through march and the quarantining and all of that, march and april, mr. floyd had been clean during that time frame? >> pardon me? do you need a munn? >> no. >> i'm sorry. again, i want to -- time frame becomes important. >> yes. >> after mr. floyd was hospitalized in march, you were quarantining together, spending a lot of time together in march, april, and may? >> yes. >> and for the majority of that time, mr. floyd was clean, right? >> yes. >> and it was your belief that mr. floyd started using again about two weeks prior to his death, correct? is. >> that's when you noticed the changes in his behavior.

>> there are times he would be up and bouncing around and other times he was unintelligible? >> i don't recall that. >> would you disagree if i said that's in the transcript? >> i wouldn't disagree wit h you. >> i have no further questions, your honor. >> redirect?

>> yes , sir. >> a few follow up questions for you. and try to go in reverse order. he asked if you knew whether the pills were purchased from mr. hall most recently in may. he talked to you about the hotel incident and i just want you to clarify for the jury, you're not trying to mislead them or anything. what you're saying is you didn't personally see that sale. >> no, i didn't. yeah, i just want to say what i saw. >> right. >> but you that i is probably where those pills came from? >> yes. >> you don't dispute that? >> no, i don't. >> you just personally didn't see it. >> exactly. >> okay.

and incidentally, what did he call his mother? what did he refer to her as? >> he called her momma too. but it's just different. it's kind of hard to describe. >> so if he were to tell -- if you with tore say to somebody, momma, that could mean his actual mother? >> yes. >> just also a name he called you? >> yes. >> you were a mother too, right? >> yes. >> and mr. nelson read for you some things you said before but when he was asking you about the may pills and how they made you feel similar to the march pills -- >> yes. >> i want you to tell the jury in your own words today, you

know, why do you say that they were -- they had a similar reaction for you? what was it about them? in march you said the pills kept you up all night and you were jittery? >> yes. >> is that the same reaction? >> same effect. it was a stimulant. >> okay. and when you took that pill in march, that seemed different. >> yes. >> obviously, you did not die from it. >> no. did you see yourself, mr. floyd take one of those pills in march? >> say that again. >> so the pills you talked about you obtained in march that caused you to feel jittery and were different. did you also see mr. floyd taking that kind of pill? >> we did not take them together that time. >> did you think that he had some of them for himself?

>> yes. >> obviously, he did not die in march? >> no. >> and the pill that gave you a similar experience in may, yes? >> yes. >> did he have some of those pills as well? >> yes. >> did he take some of those pills in may? >> yes. >> he did not die before may 25th of 2020, correct? >> yes. >> when you saw this change in his behavior prior to his death in those two weeks, what did it lead you to think about, you know, based on the 2 1/2, 3 years you were with him, how often would you see him during those weeks? >> i don't know. >> fair enough.

>> you were asked about your interview with the fbi and asked about statements you made. the fbi, as you recall, ever ask you how did you know those drugs were from mr. hall? when you told them you thought they were from mr. hall? >> i just told them i thought that. >> yeah. >> and that the pills that we're talking about in may -- >> yes? >> i can't remember if you told me, did you see mr. floyd take any of those pills? >> yes, we took them together that time. >> i'm sorry? >> we did take them together

that time. >> and when he took those, obviously, he didn't die, right? >> no, he did not. >> did you see how they affected him? >> he had a lot of energy. >> and he was okay after using them? >> yes. he was playing football, hanging out, eating, just a normal day. >> and he played a lot of basketball? >> he played basketball too. but football was his thing. >> okay. >> that's all i have, your honor. >> anything further?

>> that's all i have. >> thank you. >> thank you. if you can take the water, that will be great. >> members of the jury, i think this is a good time for our 20 h 20-minute mid morning break. >> you've been watching day four of the testimony of the trial of derek chauvin. the judge just announced a 20-minute break. this comes after we heard from george floyd's ex-girlfriend, courtney ross in what was an emotional change. both with the prosecutors and the defense about her relationship with george floyd dating back to 2017. let's bring in cnn's senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor laura coates and

charles ramsey, cnn law enforcement analyst and former philadelphia police commissioner. laura, let me begin with you. a lot of time spent on drug use, on drug addictions, on struggles that both of them shared over the course of their relationship. this we heard from the prosecutors before the trial even began from the george floyd family. they said this is going to be a lot of focus and attention, especially from the defense. but don't lose sight of where the focus should be and that should be on derek chauvin. that having been said, in those 20 minutes that you just heard about their history of drug use, what is it that stood out to you and what is the most relevant? >> somehow the name he was calling for was in fact momma, meaning, perhaps his girlfriend at the time. but, of course, it just -- a nonsensical point. he was calling for help under

obvious physical dur he is. the idea who have he was referring to is irrelevant for the officers to be considering at that point. but you have the point of opioid addiction. remember, we're in a very different world now in 2021 and how people view opioid abuse. it's not the vilifying factor that perhaps it even once was in trials and for good reason. talking about his tolerance, about his attempts to get help in the past, about the physical effect of what the drugs have done to his body. and in previous instances, as they articulated, he survived his use of those drugs. he has been alive to tell the story, to get treatment, to have these conversations. what made this interaction different? what was the new causal factor? well, the kneeling on his neck, perhaps, by former officer derek chauvin. that's what the jurors are going to think to themselves here. why is this relevant to the actual charges? if drug use is relevant zshgs

that, does asphyxiation mean it can't be a cause of death? >> we heard details about an overdose that george floyd had in march of 2020. he was hospitalized for five days. there had been discussion about some bad drugs that he had purchased and that both he and his girlfriend had consumed. there seems to be this argument that he may have in fact been on some of the bad drugs at the time of his ultimate death and leading up to that. what was your take away and how relevant was that? >> i mean, clearly he had an addiction. and that's really not in question. and, you know, the autopsy report, the toxicology report is part of the autopsy will indicate what substances he had in his system at the time of death. and whether or not it was potentially a fatal dose of whatever it was that was in his

system. so, you know, all that will be resolved as this progresses and as your expert witnesses, medical examiner and the like begin to testify. primarily, his addiction was to opioids. and, you know, i spent a great deal of my career when i was in the chicago police department in narcotics, more than ten years. i mean that's a depressant. i mean, i can't think of a single time i had a person who was addicted to heroin, let's say, create a problem for me in terms of a struggle. i mean, so, you know, all this will come out. the only point they're trying to make is trying to, you know, make george floyd the bad guy out here. it has nothing to do with whether or not the officer was justified in his use of force at the time he took him into custody and should he have maintained that pressure and that force for that long a period of time on mr. floyd. the answer to that still remains no. whether he was on drugs or not on drugs. >> and chief ramsey, from a

training standpoint, would law enforcement be prepared in the sense of how to handle and approach somebody that would be under the influence? >> well, yeah. i mean, there are techniques. deescalation and so forth. but if you have a person, let's say, that's on pcp, that can be very, very problematic. someone who's under the influence of opioids, you know, depressant, they tend not to be a problem. i wasn't there. i don't know what was in his system. but i do know this. one of the things i was taught in the academy, lots been made of george floyd's physical size. if you have someone that is that big and you know you're going to take them into custody, you try to handcuff them as soon as possible before they, you know, in the event they become irate or there is a problem later, you already have him restrauined. that could be why they cuffed him so quickly too. >> the point is the 9:29, he was cuffed the whole time and had not been --

>> right. >> -- resisting in any sense that we have seen from that clear view. >> exactly right. >> i want to bring in cnn's josh campbell who is outside of the courthouse in minneapolis. as we said, josh, that was some emotional testimony from courtney ross and his former girlfriend talking about their relationship crying throughout. give us a sense of what that was like in the courtroom. >> we could see just the reactions, obviously we can't see the jurors on the live feed. but the one thing that is a key take away, when we look at this case and back up in totality and look at this not only impact being the people of mipz and here in minnesota but also people watching this indeed around the world. hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets calling for racial justice. i can tell you, you know, you and i covered so many of the stories where you have a bad cop, that disgrace that's noble profession and one thing that i continue to hear and talking to

communities of color is how they don't feel that sometimes police officers look at them as human beings. but what was so striking in hearing from floyd's ex-girlfriend there is just the humanity. she talked about george floyd as a person. how he loved his children. the things he likeded to do, the things he looked forward to and seeing him as a person is something that so many people here, so many people and family members said was denied by the officers on that day as they arrived on the scene. i mean just yesterday we saw some of the footage released by prosecutors. you see quick escalation. you see the officer, his gun is out and pointed at floyd's head in the front of that vehicle. so just that idea that george floyd wasn't a human is something that has been a constant, you know, strain obviously in the community but to see someone who knew him so intimately describe him as a person was so powerful. i think also it's important to note and this is as you look at the defense's strategy, there is not a lot that they have to go on here. i mean, what can derek chauvin

say? he's not going to say that this was a department's policy. that neck restraint that was used that ultimately resulted in death. he can say. that he can't say he is one of four officers and they may also be to blame because he was the senior officer on the scene. and, in fact, i heard from the defense counsel for the other officers saying that they looked into chauvin, the senior officer, taking cues from him. the point is there is not a lot he can say. so what they're trying to do is turn the tables, put george floyd on trial and his drug addiction. the one thing finally there that is so important to pick up in that exchange of questions is one thing that the prosecutor was illiciting is, yes, george floyd may have taken drugs. yes, she may have taken drugs. but he didn't die prior to may 25th whenever he was taking pills. the point that the prosecutor is likely trying to make is the interaction with the police officers, not the drug abuse, not any drug history but what took place on may 25th during

that encounter with minneapolis police officers that ultimately resulted in his death. a powerful exchange there and there is much more to come. >> yeah. interesting. 45 minutes spent as you bring that up, josh, on their drug abuse and addiction and struggles and, yet, if we go to laura coates, you know, derek chauvin didn't even know he was under the influence. he said he appears to have been under the influence. but he wasn't sure of that either at the time. so we're spending a lot of time sort of monday morning quarterbacking now. but the sense of what was happening in reality and real life, derek chauvin had no idea either. before we go to break, i want to go back to something you pointed out as well. en that was the defense building up to the questioning of what george floyd called his girlfriend, the name that he had listed her under on his phone and that was momma. he had been wanting to make this point. it was obvious he was building up to that. how effective was that?

of course, given over this pastime we have always associated that with george floyd calling for his mother. >> it was an interesting point. and one that i think they were trying to take away some of the reaction to dull the sense of the jury to say oh, it wasn't this grown man as people keep commenting calling out for his biological mother. he was referring to someone he affectionately called momma. does that change the calculus for the officers who at the time would not have known that he had saved the name momma in his phone for his girlfriend? does that change the calculus that he was calling out for somebody, obviously under physical duress? it doesn't. similar to what you said, this notion of what did the officer know at the time? having toxicology reports, that's what you get after the fact. unlike things like marijuana that has a very strong smell, other drugs that have a smell, we're talking about the ingestion of opioids and other things perhaps that would not have alerted the officers to know what specially if anything

he was truly under the influence of. it goes the same category of saying we don't know the true identity of who george floyd meant when he called out for momma. we know he needed help. if we were to ask the person would would know exactly who he was calling out for as he took his last breaths prone, handcuffed with asphyxiation around his neck that, person died. and the reason for that is the defendant who is sitting there having to answer because he's the one charged with this crime. he's the one that stands accused for the very reason we'll never get that answer. >> really interesting point. and obviously whether he was calling for his girlfriend or his own mother, clearly he was in agony and motional the final few moments of his life. as we mentioned earlier, the judge called a 20-minute break. of course, we'll return to testimony in the trial of derek chauvin when the courtroom returns from that break. but coming up, yet again, another mass shooting. four people killed during --

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free ♪ >> this push coming as just this morning pfizer said its vaccine gives protection for at least six months after the second dose. cnn's kristen holmes joins me now from washington and kristen, this is just a first look at how long the vaccine offers protection. what is pfizer saying about it? >> yeah, this is incredibly significant. you have to keep in mind that up until this point our best estimate was 90 days. six months is a vast improvement here. i want to go through all of the data from this trial. there's other interesting facts here. first of all, we mentioned the protection lasts at least six months after the second dose. here's the second one, that's really key. protects against variants. now, that includes the south africa variant that medical professionals have been so worried about. and the reason why this is so important, keep in mind, when they actually tested this vaccine there was no south africa variant. it remains more than 91% effective against diseases, and

100% effective against severe disease. a lot of positive news here, again after yesterday when we had talked about that new data showing that 12 to 15-year-olds, it was 100% efficacy there in that group, a lot of positivity on the vaccine front, bianna. >> big relief also when it comes to the strains and the variants as well. kristen holmes, thank you so much. well, we are waiting for the trial of the derek chauvin to resume, emotional testimony taking place from george floyd's girlfriend today. we'll, of course, have the latest outside the courthouse coming up next. ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ karma-karma-karma- karma-karma chameleon ♪ ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ you come and go-o-o ♪ ♪ loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams ♪ ♪ red, gold -- ♪ [ tires screech ] [ crickets chirping ] for those who were born to ride there's progressive.

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hello to our viewers in the united states and around the world, welcome to "inside politics," i'm john king in washington, thank you for sharing this day with us, we're on a break right now, day four of testimony in the derek chauvin trial and we'll go back to court any moment as the proceedings resume after a quick morning break. on the stand for most of this morning, courtney ross, george floyd's girlfriend of nearly three years, through tears she recounted dates at a sculpture garden and a first kiss but she also talked about a major challenge in their lives and in their relationship, ms. ross acknowledging both she and mr. floyd suffered from opioid addiction. >> both floyd and i are -- our story, it's a classic story of how many people get addicted to opioids. we've both suffered from chronic