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testified that ukraine investigate the bidens was both out of bounds and dangerous. a brand new cnn poll released this hour. joe biden is up as people say health care is a bigger factor in the vote than beating donald trump. we begin the hour at an impeachment crossroads with democrats now laying the ground wo work to take the inquiry public. the national security council where people go to learn about their official is the first medicare options before they're on medicare. impeachment witness to testify who was on that infamous july come on in. 25th call with president trump you're turning 65 soon? yep. and the ukraine president. and you're retiring at 67? that's the plan! he said the call concerned him it's also a great time to learn about and he heard a demand from the president, quote, that a foreign an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, government investigate a u.s. citizen, that being 2020 trump insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. rival joe biden and his son here's why...medicare part b doesn't pay for everything. this part is up to you. hunter. a medicare supplement plan helps pay for some of what medicare doesn't. vinman's statement aligned with call unitedhealthcare insurance company today to request this free decision guide.

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he said he was notsaid was not f any concerns, said sondland, but whether he'll be asked to jeff sessions is calling a clarify his testimony, he has no comments today. comeback, and wow, does it pose but nevertheless, john, this is interesting questions to a significant moment that could president trump. the former alabama senator lead to, of course, the thinking now about running for impeachment of this president. his old seat, and he's being it could be part of articles of impeachment. democrats today are signalling encouraged to do so by old that they want this friends. november 8 is the filing investigation to move into that deadline. it's already a crowded field, public hearing phase before thanksgiving and potentially including the former auburn move into those votes before christmas. football coach, congressman john? bradley burn and roy moore, >> fascinating to see vinman likely to be one of the public remember roy moore who lost to witnesses when we get to that point. manu raju live on a big day in the current senator doug jones. capitol hill. here with me in the studio, the president's scorn for jeff vivian salano with the "wall sessions is beyond well documented. would the president now be able to make peace or at least stay street journal", and cnn's kaitlan collins. with jeff sessions? this is a hero who serves in the >> i think it's the president white house right now as top who has a problem with jeff ukraine official on the top sessions, not jeff sessions who

security council. has a problem with the he said, quote, i was concerned president. if it came down to that, because by the call. i did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government he said the wanted to hold the investigate a u.s. citizen. i was worried about the implications for the u.s. support of ukraine. majority. the president was spoken with i realized that if ukraine over the summer on this, and he pursued an investigation into the bidens and burisma, it would said he is not on board with this. he will tell you his biggest likely be interpreted as a mistake as president was partisan play which would likely choosing jeff sessions. the thought that he would put this behind him to let jeff result in ukraine losing the sessions have that seat is bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. this would all undermine u.s. unlikely. to have a democrat in alabama national security. for the first time in a long this is a vet saying it would time? we'll see. >> shelby is encouraging abuse the u.s.'s power. sessions to run. he's telling him he'll raise >> not only that, he was injured money for him if he runs. he's trying to get the president nye rac to back down. in iraq, so a lot of people knowing the president's history, viewing him as a war hero. we've seen the transcript. he's standing up to the white house saying it's better for the he even notes in his opening senate, it's better for the statement, we've seen the trapt state of alabama. transcript, so we know what's in >> jeff sessions already has 2.5 there. but it was someone in the immediate circle of a lot of million in the bank for this

election, basically giving him a these policy decisions. head start with all his while his statement is brief, it doesn't get into a lot of connections in washington, too. he could very quickly outraise details. we don't hear, for example, anything about rudy giuliani or everyone else in the field. his role in influencing the even if he doesn't come in, he's policy or other issues that's come up in previous testimonies. so well known in the state, it it's almost certain that in the doesn't matter. >> that's true, but he did q and a portion we'll get a lot diminish his standing. of those answers coming out. if he had not taken the attorney >> the framing bit was very general job, he could have been a senator for the rest of his interesting, because normally life in alabama. it's just about trump wanting an president trump did disturb his standing in alabama. investigation into a political >> who remembers robert mueller, opponent. in vindman's statement, he said really, it's been so long ago. i'm kidding, but we're so investigating a u.s. citizen. focused on ukraine right now that sessions might have an >> interesting point, and it's opening to say, i might have about the man who wears the been the guy who created a uniform. last night when vindman's situation for all of this happening by recusing myself. i'm going to excuse the opening statement became public knowledge and this started, i want to take you to fox news. president since i was not involved and see if he can meet with the president that way. an iraqi hero, took shrapnel it may not work, though. >> we have a fun ten days ahead as we wait for this to play out. from a unit. give us a call, senator here's how he was characterized sessions. we would be happy to catch up.

last night. coming up, some amazing news >> here we have a u.s. national security official who is for a politics family. advising ukraine while working inside the white house apparently against the sizing you up... calculating your every move. president's interests and usually they've spoken english. you think this is love? this is a billion years of tiger dna just ready to pounce. isn't that kind of an interesting angle on this story? >> i find that astounding, and and if you have the wrong home insurance coverage, some people might call that you could be coughing up the cash for this. espionage. so get allstate and be better protected from mayhem, >> other people might call that a reckless smear. he was the top ukraine official like me-ow. in the white house. it was his job to take phone calls from ukraine. what should we do? what is next? what is the process? who should we call? everything we know, and from john bolton, his former boss, and fiona hill, his former colleague, a very well-respected council on the security staff. you see liz cheney saying, watch it. >> i also want to say something about what's been going on over

the course of the last several hours and last night, which i think is shamable. that is questioning the patriotism, questioning the word of someone like corporal vindman who will be coming today and others who have testified. i think we need to show we're better than that as a nation. it's shameful to question their patriotism, their love of this nation and we should not be involved in that process. >> when you're at a crossroads, you have to make a choice. this is a crossroads day, when you get testimony from an insider who has firsthand knowledge of what happened. you can question him if you want, you can question his recollection if you want. you can raise the argument is it an impeachable offense if you want, but that is interesting to me because this will come down to whether the republicans stay or break from the president of the united states. liz cheney giving no indication if she's breaking there, but she is giving a warning light to her colleagues because this is going to become public, you're going to have bill taylor in the chair, you're going to have corporal vindman in the chair, and she is laying down a marker,

be careful. >> you can question the content of what he's saying in his testimony and his recollection of events. but when you start to question the character of a person who came to this country as a child and a refugee, just because they speak another language, it's actually considered an asset if to earn j.d. power chevdependability awards...ter protected from mayhem, you can be multi-lingual. across cars... trucks... and suvs. this white house actually had a four years in a row. since more than 32,000 real people... just like me. and me. and me. took the survey that decided these awards. dearth of different languages at one time. it's very interesting to see it was only right cheney put the line in the sand that you hear the good news from real people... like us. and say don't cross this, i'm daniel. because that gets to the point i'm casey. i'm julio. where you're essentially making only chevy has earned racist smears because you want to throw out their case. j.d. power dependability awards across cars, you have to be able to create a trucks and suvs. dividing line, otherwise, are we four years in a row. just going to start pointing to everybody who came to this country or descended from somewhere that they don't speak english. >> they used to call that the american dream. now if you're critical of the president of the united states, apparently you're a spy. >> it's important to distance

themselves from the white house, potentially giving damning information. yes, he does speak another language. a lot of people on the national security council speaks another langua language. it's part of their job when they're in there as a foreign leader and they're the ones listening to the calls alongside a translator. this is not surprising. this is the white house distancing themselves from people like alex vindman, and this is someone who was on the call. even though the president says he doesn't know who this is, he believes there are republicans who are never trumpers that don't fully embrace him, it also goes to show when the president says he doesn't know who this is how much he was relying on people like ride giuliani to conduct affairs for him. >> there is a line-up of testimony for this. you can question their integrity. he's probably okay even questioning whether he's for or against the president. but to go deeper into that from what you were hearing on fox

last night -- >> here's a hero from the iraq war. bill taylor served on the bush administration when his dad was president. john bolton,cuty adviser, serve. they wanted the democrats to take this public. they wanted the democrats to go forward. you're going to get witnesses and you're going to have to clear up things like this. alex vindman today talks about gordon sondland and says he started to speak about ukraine, delivering specific organizations in order to secure the meeting with the president. you need to investigate, you get the meeting with the president. ambassador bolton cut the quick update on facebook now facing more pressure to meeting short. fact-check political ads. the top democrat on the senate doctor hill then entered the intelligence committee sending a room and asserted to ambassador letter to ceo mark zuckererg sondland that his statements were inappropriate. saying sites like facebook need but if ambassador bolton, doctor as much credibility because the hill or other harbored any misgivings about the pro pryty ads they put on there are

of what we were doing, they never shared those misgivings political ads. with me, then or later. mark zuckerberg said they would >> it's really interesting to see a number of people now pointing a finger at sondland in not fact-check ads for particular. this will be an interesting point moving forward, whether or politicians. the beautiful daughter of not sondland was acting as a lone wolf. a lot of people will push back and say these words didn't come out of the president's mouth, and maybe it's sondland who has cnn millracle worker. to be examined closely, and that will be an issue we find closer she spends a fair amount of time and closer. but sondland definitely have some clarifications that need to on walks with mom and dad. come out at this point because a lot of pushback on his i took one of those walks recently. the baby is beautiful. testimony. >> and the two words that haven't come up enough in this thanks for joining us on conversation, rudy giuliani. "inside politics." you brought them up earlier. brianna keilar starts right now. everybody, even sondland, talks have a great afternoon. about giuliani's role and how unusual it was and even the president's appointee talked i'm brianna keilar live from about it. sondland talked about the importance that ukraine deliver cnn's washington headquarters. the investigations into the 2016 underway right now, he is elections, the bidens and the first current white house

official and the first person on burisma. a pretty crystal clear the ukraine call to testify in the impeachment inquiry, and statement. this decorated army officer sondland said, i recall no tells congress why the discussions with any state president's actions alarmed him. plus, the president's department or white house office republican defenders questioning about former vice president biden or his son, nor did i that officer's patriotism because he wasn't born in the recall taking part in any effort usa, even though he was awarded to encourage an investigation into the bidens. a purple heart fighting for these are discrepancies that america. and while maintaining the need to be cleared up. >> and the fact you have vindman discretion of the identity of the dog that helped take down versus sondland now, and they one of the world's most wanted terrorists is an issue of talked about it with each other, national security. and after facebook says it that needs to be cleared up. will allow false political ads, one california man says he will as far as a penalty that sondland might pay for now misrepresenting what happened, democrats are very much with their eye on the prize of impeaching the president. sometimes it's difficult to prove malicious intent when somebody says they don't recall versus outright lying about something. i feel that's down the line, but to hold them up against each other, there is a clear difference here, and i think people emerge from sondland's

testimony saying he seems to be protecting himself rather than giving the full details that he could have. >> if he needs to defend what he said, if he's telling truth, he'll come back and say that. it's important to note, alex vindman, fiona hill, john volker. all of them saying this was crossing the line. this almost guarantees a vote for impeachment inquiry. then it moves to the senate, along with liz cheney saying don't attack these heroes. and nancy pelosi calls for exactly what we were asking for: a vote. smart. yeah. ok. if you're in a horror movie, you make poor decisions.

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capitulation, even though it has everything they demanded. >> it's completely partisan and they're going to try to spruce it up a little bit and still not give rights to the president, to the minority, and still do these things in secret so the american people cannot see what's going on. i think every single republican will be voting against -- i'm hopeful and i think this is going to happen -- every single republican will be voting against the resolution on thursday. >> just for the record there for the congressman, we don't know exactly what's in this resolution. we don't know the rights. the republicans may have every reason to complain down the road, but we don't know yet specifically what it will be. how big a step is this? we can have the debate. washington will be consumed by is pelosi taking the next right step, why is it in private? sho shove it over here. what it means is they're

prepared to take it to the next steps and they'll have to vote. then you'll have public hearings. then you'll transfer it to the judiciary committee which handles impeachment, and if you're trying to think big picture, it is more likely today than yesterday that the president of the united states will be impeached by the house. >> i imagine republicans will find something in this to complain about, to be frustrated about. so no matter what pelosi does, they are going to need a talking point about why they feel this process is unfair to the president. and then also i think it's just really important because everyone is going to have to go on record. despite what jorep jordan said that video, one or two republicans will vote for this. then it won't be completely partisan. >> you're right, they'll complain it's not bipartisan. there are seven, i think, democrats left who have not endorsed a formal impeachment. they come from tough districts

back home, but now they'll have the testimony before them and they can say, it's not just articles of impeachment, we're just voting to more formalize the process. a key deputy in the house leadership was asked, aren't you putting members at risk? he says no. >> everyone will have to make a decision based on their conscience and how they decide to most effectively represent the districts they are privileged to serve. the overwhelming majority of the house democratic caucus are publicly on record supporting the impeachment inquiry. >> that's the important s has the votes. she also knows it's tough for several of her members. but for the overwhelming majority, they ever have to put language on paper. we'll see if there are objections about that, but this has to happen. it's a preliminary stage. >> there is a process that says, this is how we're going to do it. it says we want to impeach the

president, but it doesn't say we're going to impeach the president. she has a good point. if there are that many democrats that are pro-impeachment, why shy away from the political step like this? i think the important thing to remember in the midst of this debate, the house doesn't do the trial. when they're talking about due process rights for the president, do not expect this will be the courtroom scene from the tv drama because that's what happens in the senate. you're actually making an indictment, which is effectively what the impeachment vote would be to bring those trials to the senate. it's going to be unsatisfying for a lot of republicans because it's not the complete picture. generally speaking, when we talk about impeachment, it can get mudd mudd

muddled as to why do you even care. >> a lot of people have testified that infuriate the president and his team, they've testified because of subpoenas. the energy secretary is on his way out. all the documents they've asked for, they said only if the full house votes are we willing to cooperate. secretary perry saying to the ap, the united states congress is not following both their own rules and precedent with this and until they do that, i don't intend to be a participant in what i consider to be not only illegal but improper. they need to have a vote. then they'll give the documents and will his bluff be called and he'll be standing in the way. >> a few weeks ago you saw officials saying, until they vote, we're not considering this legitimate. now they're saying it's a process, it's not real, this isn't happening in an appropriate manner. they're not pushing for a vote much because our reporting shows officials are actually torn by this. there is good that can come out of the white house, they can have access to the transcripts, they can have counsel in the

room and be able to cross-examine these witnesses, but then they lose their argument that there is no purpose democrats have here. they may not be able to refuse documents and cite executive privilege as much as they're doing. so they aren't pushing for the vote as much as you saw them do so previously. >> and soon to be, if not already, the most important republican is going to the senate, mitch mcconnell. there are a lot of republicans privately murmuring about the testimony saying, what should we do? mitch mcconnell saying, hold your powder. everybody sit back. we'll get there when we get there. >> there is an amount of collateral damage both the house and senate have to consider, because if this drags into 2020, we're talking elections now and all the senate congressmen and women who are in swing districts are really looking at this and wondering if it's going to impact them. it's something they're thinking about looking forward depending on how this goes. >> the other 2020 angle, when

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new poll numbers in new hampshire to unveil right now and bernie sanders has a reason to smile as we close in on 100 days -- 105 to be exact -- to the first primary. senator warren and sanders close to each other at the top. sanders at 21, warren at 18. vice president biden falling at 15%, congressman gabbard, senator klobuchar and yang round it out there. biden fell five points since our last poll in july. amy klobuchar coming up, mr. yang coming up, tulsi gabbard coming up, but this a big deal for the former vice president. warren and sanders in a fierce competition. they're the two most fierce

candidates in the race. vice president biden comes in well behind. this is interesting, among moderate conservative voters, the former vice president has the lead, but familiarity matters. bernie sanders is from vermont and now in massachusetts competing against moderate conservatives. this is interesting. why is bernie sanders and elizabeth warren at the top? why are they at the top of the pack? voters in new hampshire say health care, climate and then jobs are their top issues. joe biden still ranks first when voters are asked who can best beat donald trump? in new hampshire, with those most likely to vote in the primary, that's down here. biden gets less support at the top. candidates spending more time in new hampshire, special counsel -- especially for the lesser knowns. they see t butt degree and castro seeing

the challenge of trying to break through. >> i'm going to hang in there. >> so i was in concord yesterday and met with a woman who is 95% of the way through your book. i asked if we had your vote, and she said 95% of the way there. >> the most new hampshire thing i've heard all day. >> 105 days out, so still a lot of time to change your mind. but it is interesting when you go state-by-state. especially here. it's a fierce competition at the moment for the two neighbors, sanders of vermont, warren of massachusetts. if you're the former vice president and you've already seen yourself slipping a bit in iowa, now you're slipping in new hampshire, he says, sure, i've got south carolina. should he be worried? >> he based his entire campaign on electability. he even put poll numbers in his ads, and what happens to that if he loses the first two contests?

bernie has the biggest small dollar operation in the history of american politics, and the fact that the heart attack didn't seem to do any bounce. after that first debate, he and his campaign team decided to do somewhat of a message reboot and focused almost entirely on medicare for all, and the fact that's an important issue to his voters shows that it may be working. >> at the time senator warren is being attacked saying she needs to come up with more questions. sanders was asked about his recent slip in some of the polls. >> can you lose iowa, and now we understand you're coming in third in new hampshire. can you lose the first two big races and rely on south carolina to be your firewall? >> no, i plan on doing very well in both of those. the polls, as you know, are up and down. i've been ahead in iowa, i've been ahead in south carolina, ahead in all the national polls and the occasional one that pops

up is different. >> i mean, it's new hampshire. we'll see what it says for him, but i think the most concerning thing for him coming out of this is 57% of people in this poll are still deciding who it is they're going to support. for someone who has maintained, he's the frontrunner, he's the only one up against the president, that should be a number concerning to joe biden. >> he's still winning when asked who do you think is most equipped to go up against donald trump, it says he's 36% in the current poll, biden's numbers now going down. absolutely nothing for the president to worry about at the moment in new hampshire. some states decided to cancel their republican primaries at the request of the president's team. joe walsh one, mark sanford one. i just want to put that down as a marker. the president is in zero danger today. it's interesting as the

impeachment proceedings play out. we'll look at that in another month and then another month and another month to see what happens, if anything. >> certainly, and look at those numbers once the democratic nominees start to emerge, because then we'll actually be able to put these preliminary polls of who has the greatest potential margin against the president. >> if you're in capitol hill trying to figure out what to do about impeachment, you see those numbers and you think the answer is to stick with the president. he's well ahead, but we'll see. when we come back, the president's conduct is essential to the impeachment inquiry, but another name that comes up again and again and again, the vice president.

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vice president mike pence is at ft. hood in texas today visiting army troops, watching some training and escaping, for a few hours, anyway, the impeachment inquiry. there are some questions about the vice president, too. he not the last witness, for example, notes in his last statement that

vice president pence was in on the call, too. vindman said, i was concerned by the call. i did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a u.s. citizen. now president trump will question the character and credibility of witnesses giving damning testimony, like bill taylor. >> does bill taylor, william taylor, have credibility as far as you're concerned? >> are you referring to william taylor's testimony? >> his testimony as far as we know. >> we can't really count on that, because all we have from the committee are leaks. judy, the process that's going on in congress today is a disservice to the american people. and it's a disgrace. >> this was his opening statement, 15 pages. >> it's just unacceptable, judy. >> it wasn't leaked. it was in his statement that he released to the public. >> the american people have a right to know. >> a right to know what?

god bless judy woodruff. it's not leaks, it's an opening statement. that was a circular -- i don't know what it was, but we didn't get an answer from the vice president there. we did not get one. >> that's kind of been his m.o. in several recent interviews because of the position he's in in the middle of this, because of his role and his meetings that he's had with the ukranian president, and we saw that in an interview he did on sunday where he repeatedly evaded questions about whether or not he had been pushed by the president, what he knew of the president's push for other people to be involved. while he's maintained his conversations with the ukranians were aboveboard, you're seeing how he's having to tow the line here. he's not someone who will go out and attack the people testifying. he'll attack the process and what the democrats are doing, but he walks the line. he doesn't do what the president does, but he also doesn't want to seem as though he's not being loyal to the president. we're watching him in a really delicate position here. >> it's interesting that he's

giving the interviews in the middle of this. you can see them asking the right questions. in some ways pence's answers aren't telling, but they're also very telling. >> there was no quid pro quo, there was no pressure. he was entirely focused on issues important to the american people. >> are you saying you did not ever hear of such a deal? is that what i understand you're describing? >> i'm telling you that all my interactions with the president, all of my conversations with president zelensky were entirely focused on issues of importance to the american people. >> the question was, did he ever hear, in all of the ukraine dealings, did he hear about rudy giuliani, did he hear any effort of a deal, quid pro quo, call it what you will. his answer, all of my conversations with the president, all of my conversations with president zelensky were all focused on

issues of importance. >> he's seemingly trying to keep himself out of this but also trying not to seem disloyal to the president. >> there are people from his office that were listening in on that july 25th phone call, and we know that vindman's testimony, it was going through the white house at various levels where he would have had to sit there with his fingers in his ears to not hear about this. he didn't have any ill intent here. any of these guys, if they didn't get pulled into the white house impeachment process, they'll get pulled into the senate trial and potentially be exposed. >> two weeks ago he said he would be perfectly willing of any conversations he had with ukraine to be made public. we're still waiting. >> i'm sure the vice president has probably maintained a little bit of an official line with ukranian leaders. having the vice president actually take the lead on ukraine is something we saw in the previous administration and in this administration, so mike

pence, whether he likes it or not, he cannot separate himself from the ukraine issue because it was his portfolio to lead. we know from our reporting that mike pence was actually encouraging the president to take more of an interest in ukranian issues because there was concern in the first and second year of the administration that he was warming too much to moscow and leaving an ally like ukraine out in the cold. mike pence actually took a very active role to try to get the president to engage more with the ukranians. and now that this came around and the president did that in a roundabout way where partisanship came into the picture, he's in a tough spot. he has a rapport with congressional republicans, and they feel he is the one that can really kind of keep a hold on this and keep it from steering off the road, basically. >> he's enjoying a day out of washington today. up next, jeff sessions, remember him? lots of comeback.

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