all right. good tuesday morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow in new york. jim sciutto has the day off. moments away on capitol hill, testimony set to begin from the man who could be the most important impeachment witness so far. his name, bill taylor. currently the top official at the u.s. embassy in ukraine. of course, you'll remember him as the one who questioned the white house's pressure on ukraine to open an investigation into the bidens sending this

text message to a fellow diplomat. quote, i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. now as lawmakers asked taylor today why he sent that text, they are working to protect the person who sparked the ukraine investigation, the anonymous whistle-blower. chuck schumer demanding they explain how they are protecting this person's identity when they question whether the person even needs to be protected. we have a brand-new poll on impeachment. it shows growing support for the impeachment inquiry. 50% of americans asked think they believe that the president should not only be impeached but also removed from office. it is alarming to see the tweet from the president this morning. now comparing impeachment proceedings against him to a lynching. comparing a lawful process to the way thousands of black people were murdered and one of the darkest periods in this country's history. so let's begin this hour on

capitol hill with our senior congressional correspondent manu raju. good morning to you. bill taylor about to walk in. or is he there? >> we expect him to come some time soon. this will be -- is a highly anticipated moment in this investigation because of text messages that have already been released showing that bill tay lorks the top diplomat in ukraine, had raised concerns about why that military aid that had been approved by congress had not been turned over to ukraine and concerned that potentially this could have to do with the president's push to investigate his political rivals. as you noted, he referred to that as a crazy, if that were true. so the questions for the members here is exactly what he knew about why that military aid was withheld. what conversations he had with the president, with the administration, with secretary of state mike pompeo and the like. what democrats have been able to glean so far in this investigation is the role the president and rudy giuliani played in pushing for those investigations last week when

the president's top ambassador to the european union testified. giuliani was essentially the person dispatched to take care of ukrainian policy and strengthen that key alliance. until they dealt with giuliani. when sondland testified, he wasn't sure why that military aid had been withheld only saying that he spoke to the president briefly who insisted there was no, quote, quid pro quo, and that's why he told bill taylor separately that there was no quid pro quo. today, poppy, the democrats and republicans will get a better sense of exactly why he was concerned, whether he believed what gordon sondland was saying and whether the information he had to determine why that military aid and other efforts to build relations with ukrainians were put on ice. >> manu, thank you very much. this morning, the president is choosing to characterize the impeachment inquiry using a word that is just completely inappropriate and offensive to

do so. of course, the inquiry, a process laid out in the constitution. the president is calling it a lynching. a term that evokes a time in american history when thousands of african-americans were targeted by white mobs. let's go to joe johns, our senior washington correspondent. he's at the white house. why did the president use that term? >> well, it's clear the president is trying to discredit this investigation. and he's done that before. and this also is an example, as you said, of the president using intemperate language on twitter as he has before because lynching clearly link ed ed to terrorism in this country. it's probably the most important point and that is that the president is essentially taking up his beef with the united states' constitution and the way it lays out impeachment as a process. if you look at that tweet, he talks about, if some day a democrat becomes president, republicans win the house, even by a tiny margin he says, they

can impeach the president without due process, fairness and legal rights. about 20 years ago, a democratic president was impeached by republicans in the house of representatives. so that's not exactly new. but the larger point is the president going after essentially the constitutional process. and by the way, just about 24 hours ago in his cabinet meeting, the president referred to the emoluments clause of the united states constitution as phony. so this is the president going after the founders of the u.s. constitution. back to you. >> look, when the constitution doesn't work for you, you don't just tear it up and throw it out the window. that's just not how it works no matter who you are. joe johns, thank you. cnn global affairs analyst susan glasser, and elie honig. susan, let's begin with bill taylor. he's going to be behind closed doors. he is highly respected. not only does he hold the highest diplomatic post in

ukraine right now, they had to drag him out of retirement and convince him, pompeo and others, to take this job. he saw the importance of it. the importance of protecting ukraine from russia. the importance of this strategic alliance. a dozen state department officials, former state department officials, tell cnn that based on his character, they expect his testimony today will be forthright and informative. how damaging could it be for this administration? >> he's a key witness. remember the reason he was there in the first place is because president trump chose to listen to his private attorney and actually unilaterally fired the previous u.s. ambassador to ukraine and ordered that she be removed immediately from her position. that's why there was an opening in the first place. he is there in an acting capacity because u.s. diplomats were alarmed at the idea that there was this campaign that they didn't even fully understand by the president and his private attorney. he's a key witness because he

saw both the actions of the so-called three amigos. this is gordon sondland, kurt volker and the energy secretary rick perry who trump essentially designated as part of his shadow foreign policy team to go around our real foreign policy. he can testify to the enormous pressure that was being brought to bear on ukraine to investigate at the president's political behest. remember, it wasn't just holding up the aid. it was also withholding a meeting between the president of the united states and the president of ukraine. >> canceling one and then threatening not have another one with the vice president. one of those former officials i just mentioned from state noted that what we saw in the text messages is something that could be a deliberate effort to create a paper trail. when taylor texts sondland, as i told you on the phone, what does that inform you as to what he may say today? >> it tells me bill taylor was

aware when this was happening, a, that it was dead wrong. he's the one in the text who calls it out most clearly and that, b, he needed to make a record. he's a career, nonpartisan public official and wants to put down a marker and say i'm not okay with this. what you see is the other people in those text chains panicking the other way. let's take this offline. call me. taylor is going to be a very important witness. >> what do you think the significance is of the reporting we've learned from "the washington post" that, at the same time that -- and following rudy giuliani's urging of the president to look at ukraine, et cetera and the bidens, that we had russian president vladimir putin joining with hungary's prime minister to push a disparaging, shall i say, view of ukraine on the white house and on the president. they did not mention the 2016 election or the bidens, but they reinforced, at the minimum, the president's view of ukraine. what does it tell you? >> well, look, i think it's been clear and alarming for quite

some time that the president is more supportive of vladimir putin's view of ukraine than of his own administration's view of ukraine. so on paper, there's the state department policy and pentagon policy to support ukraine and its military conflict with russia by sending these weapons. well, donald trump says not only am i going to hold the aid up but seems to adopt the world view. remember, these officials in his own government, were very worried about donald trump's view of ukraine because they had a meeting with trump himself in the oval office and may 23rd, when they returned from president zelensky's inauguration, at which trump himself was saying essentially the ukrainians hate me. they are not somebody i want to work with. they are totally corrupt. and it's a world view, i think, that is putin's. but it's also trump's because it goes back to his grievance about the 2016 election. and this idea that somehow they were conspiring against him.

>> susan glasser, elie honig, thank you. we have a lot to include something revealing new numbers. new cnn polling shows how americans feel about impeaching the president. now 50% of those polled believe the president should not only be impeached but also removed from office. that is up. compared to 43% who say no. chris cillizza is with us. so some interesting things in here. that's an important headline number. i think also important in there is that just 6% of republicans feel this way. >> yeah, 87% of democrats. 50% of independents. 6% of republicans. what does that tell you? well, it doesn't take a political analyst, of note, to make the point that this is perceived as a very partisan endeavor at the moment, which is interesting in that. remember, nancy pelosi, for months and months, the speaker of the house said we can't do

this if it -- this being impeachment, if it's perceived to be just a partisan endeavor. her hand was forced by the ukraine stuff so she had really no choice. but, you know, it speaks to the fact that the public has changed -- you've seen independents get more willing to support impeachment. not really republicans. >> cillizza, what else stands out to you in this poll in terms of why democrats and republicans think that the other is pushing for this? >> it's all motives. and this is all based on partisan and polarization. if you look into the poll, you'll see that democrats overwhelmingly believe that this investigation is being conducted by congressional democrats because trump has potentially doney an exact reverse when you ask republicans. that this is republicans view this as simply an attempt to get trump. now why do congressional republicans oppose this? well, okay. out to protect trump. democrats, 79%.

believe trump did not commit -- basically at this stage, every question can be answered. are you a democrat or republican? i can tell you exactly what you think on impeachment, medicare -- >> unless. unless you're not running again like francis rooney and you come on the air and say what you think. >> or john kasich. this is the problem. so mitt romney, aka pierre delecto is the presidential nominee in 2012 and had to start a secret twitter handle to offer defenses of himself in criticisms. i'll be them light criticisms of the president. and that's the reality. and these numbers tell you why. republican voters still believe this is in donald trump's words unfortunately a witch hunt. >> before you go, you had a great column last night. i'm not only interested in it because it's about my home state minnesota. i'm interested because it's a state the president says he is sure he can win and flip and because it could be indicative

of the -- more of the midwest and the rust belt that's so critical to this president's re-election. >> the "minneapolis star tribune" did a poll in which they found joe biden and elizabeth warren leading in hypothetical matchups. bernie sanders up over trump. why does that matter? trump only lost minnesota by 44,000 votes out of 2.6 million cast in 2016. as you note, his campaign has talked about making that state competitive. and he doesn't need minnesota to get re-elected, but michigan, ohio, wisconsin, the upper industrial midwest. you've seen an, rosion of trump support there. that's where he won the election in 2016. it's what he needs to win it in 2020. if minnesota is broadly intick dif indicative of those other states. >> still to come, president trump going after what he calls a phony part of the u.s.

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will arrive on capitol hill. he's set to face extensive questioning. the focus will be heavily on his text messages where he raised significant concerns about the u.s. policy in ukraine and quid pro quos. he said i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. joining me on this and more, senator richard blumenthal, democrat of connecticut. thank you for being here. we already know the concerns he raised with ambassador sondland. if you were in these hearings today, on one of those house committees, what would you ask bill taylor? >> i would very much want to know what he thought the consequences would be of that quid pro quo on ukraine as a partner in resisting russian aggression. remember, ukraine is under attack. that aid, the military aid going to ukraine was supposed to help them resist the russians.

and the quid pro quo was for interference in our election, which is blatantly an abuse of power by the president but also undermined our national security interest in ukraine's resistance to the russian attack and a professional diplomat. he's a real professional. i want to hear from him what he thought the consequences would be of continuing that extortian against the ukrainian president. >> you believe that it is extortion, sir? >> well, mick mulvaney said there was a quid pro quo. donald trump was in effect pressuring the ukrainian president to do his bidding, to interfere in our elections to get dirt on one of his political opponents in return for $391 million in assistance. >> so you know the white house response to that is mulvaney reityivated it on sunday. the money still flowed. we do this all the time with

foreign policy. i'll let americans read the trance cry transcript and make up their mind on that. one thing you said to anderson cooper on october 8th. the silence of my republican colleagues is absolutely unsustainable. sir, just this morning, our polling at cnn shows only 6% of republicans back impeaching the president and removing him from office. what tells you -- what are we not hearing or seeing then that informs you that you believe that this silence from most of your republican counterparts is, in your mind, unsustainable. >> great question. i think that what we see in history looking to watergate, is a trend as evidence mounts and becomes public of republicans seeing the handwriting on the wall. here what's really significant is not only those numbers but also the trends. and the trend among independents which is moving at a good

velocity toward a feeling that the president should be removed. so republicans have to not only survive a primary. they're fearful about the president coming against them in a primary but they also have to win general elections which involve independent votes. and i think ultimately, their lockstep stance with a president that has been proven to have abused his power is unsustainable. >> the president doesn't think the emoluments clause exists in the constitution. it does very much so. but he is attacking it. listen to him. >> i don't think you people with this phony emoluments clause, and by the way, i would say that it's cost me anywhere from $2 billion to $5 billion to be president. >> that's just not what it's about. and you are filing a brief today as i understand it from your team in just a few hours in federal court. again, this is part of the 2017 case. you versus the president, sir.

this is about emoluments. and this brief is you are making the argument that just the white house and mulvaney putting out to the public discourse the g7 was going to be held at doral, the president's property, you think even though that was pulled back and no money was exchanged, you contend that's a violation of the emoluments clause? is that right? >> what that doral deal shows is the use of the presidency for private profit. what he did there was promote his own property. he would have had the g7 summit there but for the public outcry and uproar that it precipitated. make no mistake. there's nothing phony about the united states constitution. when the president says you people with the phony emoluments clause, those people are we, the american people. that's our constitution. that clause in the constitution says he cannot receive any payment, any benefit from a foreign leader without consent of congress. that's why we have sued the

president of the united states. it's called blumenthal versus trump. 200 members of congress. and i'm asking the courts now to expedite our lawsuit because, clearly, the president is moving forward. >> senator, let's listen -- we're seeing bill taylor as he enters. and often times we don't see this long walk they make into the capitol. reporters are asking him questions. he is not answering them. if he, does we will let everyone listen to what he has to say. but again, on the importance you believe of this witness in the impeachment inquiry from the president, how large is it, do you believe, senator? how important to get straight answers from bill taylor? >> bill taylor had the guts and spine to stand up to the president and say it would be crazy for the president to do what in fact he said he was doing in that july 25th phone call. bill taylor showed what our moral as well as our strategic interests is here in standing by

a partner that resisted russia. that's very important for the american people to see and hear because it not only shows the president's abuse of his office, but also how he compromised our national interest and invited a foreign power to interfere. >> let me ask you this as we wrap up, senator, because so much of this boils down to protecting our democracy. especially from election interference from any foreign power. and that brings up the important issue of facebook and election security. facebook's ceo mark zuckerberg yesterday told nbc news that russia, iran and china are using more sophisticated tactics than in 2016 to interfere in our election. senator elizabeth warren yesterday said facebook has too much political power. is she right? >> she is absolutely right because facebook has too much economic power. that's why mark warner, senator warner and i have introduced a

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elie honig and susan glasser will help us analyze this. we're learning more about what he's going to say to lawmakers. >> we're learning these new details about how he plans to address some of the questions that have been lingering for weeks in the aftermath of those text messages that were released already by the committee in which he raised concerns that military aid had been withheld and why it had been withheld and whether this was tied to any investigations the president was seeking into his political rivals. sources telling kylie atwood that this morning bill taylor will deliver an opening statement that will include a chronology of events that will detail about his time when he began this post as a top diplomat in ukraine up until october. and then he's going to lay out his reasoning behind some of those different text messages. explain some of the time lapse between the text messages, why he made -- raised some of those concerns. he will not be bringing new

documents to the committee, according to the source. this is interesting because a number of current officials have not been able to turn over documents because they've turned them over to the state department. the state department has refused to turn them over to capitol hill. this has been an ongoing source of tension with democrats on the committee. but this source says that taylor is in a bit of a difficult spot because he wants to maintain his current post. he does not want to make a splash, although he could very well make a splash and he's expected to go back to ukraine tomorrow to resume this position. so, clearly, he wants to answer the questions from the committee. explain the timeline. lay out the chronology. detail what was behind those text messages and not, of course, go too far as to anger the president. so we'll see how he manages that difficult balancing act but, clearly indication that democrats and republicans get a lot of answers to the questions they've had about these text messages. >> manu thank you very much. susan glasser, to you. what -- how does it perhaps

complicate things for bill taylor that he is sitting in this post and wants to go back to it tomorrow? that's different from the other witnesses we've heard from that have had these positions as ambassadors. sondland, of course, still serving. but how does that complicate things for him? >> absolutely. this is an extraordinary situation, obviously, not only to be in the middle of an impeachment inquiry but to have the acting u.s. ambassador called back from his country here to the united states to testify in defiance. it should be noted of the white house and secretary of state pompeo. so i think it makes it almost impossible, really, for him to do his job if he is portrayed as coming here as a witness to accuse the president if he's portrayed as a damning witness against trump. i think it's a huge problem. he and other sitting foreign service officers face the possibility of retribution because that could be a part of

the charges added against president trump. but again, we have a ukraine policy of our government but the president doesn't support it. there's already enormous confusion and dismay in ukraine. >> why does he want to keep that job, though? it may very well speak to why he wants to be that buffer and to be there holding that important job because he does, according to those texts, hold people's feet to the fire in terms of the importance of supporting ukraine. >> remember, he already served as our ambassador to ukraine. he has a deep knowledge and understanding of the country. and, remember, this is a country that is in the middle of an ongoing war and occupation by russian proxies in the middle part of the country. and president zelensky was elected not only to fight corruption but most significantly to see if he could bring that ongoing conflict to an end. it's been going on since 2014. bill taylor has been a u.s. official in the middle of this.

not only is the u.s. not leading any kind of a peace settlement, but the actions of the president appear to have helped russian president vladimir putin at exactly, you know, this sort of difficult moment for the country that ambassador taylor cares very much about. so it's a terrible dilemma to be sucked into this if you are a career officer. >> elie, what he will not be bringing with him, even though we hear his testimony from those who knew him, will be forthright, is documents. and state has been blocking other witnesses from bringing any documents. of course, pompeo is very upset there are no state department lawyers in these depositions. how critical are documents like that? >> documents are key. but we already have the most important documents which are those texts. and this is a golden opportunity for the committee to fill in the gaps. look at these texts. the famous text where taylor writes, are we saying that security assistance and the white house visit are conditions? somebody said or did something

that prompted him to write that text. as i said on the phone, it's crazy to withhold. >> what happened in that phone conversation? when sondland said call me. >> this is a gold mine for the investigators. i think they'll get a lot out of this. >> thank you. we appreciate it. we'll bring you more as we hear what he may be saying behind closed doors. the cease-fire between syria and turkey will end as u.s. troops are leaving syria now finding out they cannot stay in iraq. we'll have a live report from the region and the pentagon ahead. the new $3 little john from jimmy john's is just like our original sandwiches...only littler...so we bought a little ad...on lil jon. little johns, yeah! $3, what?!

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saying the u.s. forces cannot stay there contradicts what we heard from the defense secretary. >> well, now it all does, in fact, have to be worked out since the iraqi government issued this statement that it did give permission for the u.s. troops coming from eastern syria to come into western iraq and stay in the relative safety of that northern area of iraq. but saying they could not stay. defense secretary esper traveling in the middle east region earlier today said he will discuss all of this with his iraqi counterpart and try to work out what happens next. it may be that this is partially for essentially domestic political consumption inside iraq. it's difficult for that government to just say yes more troops can come in. it puts them in a very tough position with the iraqi people. esper, however, has also said that, you know, eventually u.s. troops will, in fact, come home.

nobody can say exactly when that's going to be. >> very important detail. barbara, thank you very much. let's get to nick paton walsh in iraq for us. you went to northern syria this morning. let's take a moment and listen to what the president said about the kurds. >> they hated isis. so they were fighting isis. but we never agreed -- where is an agreement that said we have to stay in the middle east for the rest of humanity, for the rest of civilization to protect the kurds? it never said that? and we have protected them. we've taken very good care of them. and i hope they're going to watch over isis. >> nick, you went to northern syria this morning. what did you see? what did you hear? >> i've been there the last few days emerging in the last few hours or so and clearly that u.s. withdrawal was substantial. a large convoy crossing into iraq. the key focus today, though, is

exactly what the cease-fire, which is supposed to end in about five hours or so will mean on the ground. calm as we left this morning around about dawn. but we're hearing reports of all sides readying themselves for the possibility there is not a deal in the press conference that emerges between russian president vladimir putin and turkish president erdogan. that's about to start any second now. that's where most people hope who are on possibly the side of turkey and russia being the power brokers in all of this that some sort of deal can eemergency th emerge that will stop the cease-fire from collapsing. both sides readying themselves for potential future fighting. but it is unclear what will come out of sochi. it seems that russia, which is backing the syrian regime, new backers of the syrian kurds that used to be a u.s. ally in the fight against isis. it seems they have similar possible ground here to occupy, but donald trump's comments there startling.

yes, it's true there has been no public commitment from the u.s. to fight for the kurds and protect them for a lifetime, but they lost 10,000-plus sons and daughters fighting isis on behalf of the united states and the rest of the world that wanted them kicked out of the so-called caliphate. the idea had always been that some sort of enduring alliance would be there despite the recognition that the syrian kurds would have to come to accommodation with the forces around them, including turkey and the syrian regime. it's the way in which it's collapsed where the concession to turkey enabling their incursion. mike pompeo said u.s. diplomacy worked here and got turkey to slow down using the economic might of the united states. but, really, we have to see if the sochi meeting c ining can y diplomatic outcome. >> we appreciate the reporting. it's invaluable to have you and your team on the ground. canadian prime minister

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forward to recovering at home, they say. of course, this follows two weeks ago where he also fell at home and injured his head. he got 14 stitches that day. the former president has also survived brain cancer and liver cancer. we are wishing him a speedy recovery. justin trudeau will serve a second term as canada's prime minister. his liberal party, though, is weakened. paula newton joins us live in montreal. it was a nail biter. no one knew how this was going to go. >> right. and you could feel a relief in the room. the liberal party, justin trudeau celebrate that they hung on to power but only just. the country is pretty much united in thanking everyone that this very nasty, negative campaign is over, and that's about it. justin trudeau leaves a lot of wreckage behind him, that

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top of the hour, 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. jim sciuto has the morning off. this may be the most interesting testimony yet in the impeachment inquiry. the man who runs the u.s. embassy in ukraine and he questioned the white house's pressure on that country to carry out a politically motivated investigation. of course, he told a fellow diplomat in a text message,