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classrooms, not cages. >> everybody knows who donald trump is. we have to let him know who we are. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." it is turning into a beautiful morning here in detroit, our last morning here in detroit, sadly. >> you keep saying that. >> you have forgotten you live somewhere else. >> i don't ever remember not being in detroit. >> it is thursday, 8:00 in detroit. so joe biden seemed to have a bulls eye on him at last night's cnn debate. the former vice president was attacked on all sides. but unlike the first debate biden seemed ready this time. he was prepared, he was energetic. so is he a stronger front-runner now than he was going into the debate? what really changed last night? >> and the former vice president's chief rival last
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night is senator kamala harris. she came out swinging but perhaps more in the first debate she found herself on the receiving end of some jabs as well. there was a clash over the health care plan. >> and any time someone tells you you're going to get something good in ten years you should wonder why it takes ten years. you will lose your employer based insurance. >> under our plan we will ensure that everyone has access to health care. your plan by contrast leaves out almost 10 million americans. so i think that you should really think about what you're saying. >> and senator kamala harris joins us now on "new day." have you had any sleep since last night? >> not really.
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none of us have. there's a line from the "godfather" which i love. well, many lines this this one, this is the life i've chosen. >> speaking of choices, last night you came out swinging and you never really stopped throughout the whole debate, and what was your strategy going into it? >> well, my strategy and my hope certainly is that we would have a meaningful discussion about policy and about the issues. and i think that that happened. you know, it's a format that is difficult, though, to have real conversations. it's 60 seconds to give an answer and follow up for 30 seconds and then a rebuttal that's 15 seconds. but overall it was about talking about for me my 3:00 a.m. agenda, which is about my priorities that are really informed by what wakes people up in the middle of the night or 3:00inate morning, which for the vast majority of us is about a few things, about personal
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health, the health of your children, your parents, can you get a job, keep a job, pay the bills at the end of the month, retire with dignity, can i help get my family off opioid addiction, for so many students, can i help pay off my student loans? these are the things that keep people up in the middle of the night, and it was my intention and hope to be able to talk about that and in a way that people also understand that in spite of the powerful forces and including this president who are trying to sow hate and division among americans that the reality is a vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us. >> and you had a chance to talk about your health care plan and it was the subject of fire. and you said your opponents were lying or weren't being honest about it. the issue of your private insurance. >> yegs. >> one of the things that has been charged is that you will
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not be able to keep your private insurance. if we get insurance through cnn, if gm workers get insurance through gm, under your plan they will not be able to keep that private insurance. is that true? >> what the conversation was was about whether you can keep your private insurance through your employer. my plan will separate your health care from your employer. meaning your employer will no longer dictate the kind of health care you receive. under my plan of medicare for all, private insurance companies will be able to provide coverage if they play by our rules. and therefore what that means in a very important way is that you don't have to be wed to your employer to keep the insurance you like and that you need. you know, listen, the reality of america today is it is no longer the case that people come out of high school or college, they go and work one place and retire
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there. that's no longer the reality in america. you look at the fact -- i know you had andrew yang on earlier, over the next 15 years over 40% of the jobs will no longer exist. we have to decouple health care from employers because there are so many people i'm meeting, john, who are literally afraid to leave a job they don't like because they are so concerned they are going to lose their health care. i am decoupling it. so there will be private health care, private plans but it will not be coupled with your employer so you can have choices about where you work and where you live. >> and i understand the affordability argument. but what you have to convince vo voters of is that, yes, they may be able to keep a private insurance but it's not their private insurance, correct? >> they get to make the choice. >> you're basically allowing for a medicare plan and surers can enter that plan and choose it if
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they want to. but if you're getting insurance from gm, your employer, you will not be able to keep that, correct? >> you will have ten years to transition. the insurer who has partnered with gm is going to then have the opportunity to compete in my medicare for all plan so you as the consumer can choose under my medicare plan to have a government plan, a government sponsored plan or a private plan. and this is the great thing about my medicare for all plan, which is this. people are going to have to compete. private insurers are going to have to compete and those that have the best plans will have you sign-up. >> but it's a private plan, not necessarily your private plan. there's no guarantee your private plan will be part of it. >> if you decide your private plan is your employers private plan as opposed to the plan you want to choose for yourself, then perhaps you're right. but i believe the fact the reason i created my medicare for all plan is i am traveling this country and listening. and what they tell me is they want to be able to choose and
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they don't want somebody else making choices for them including their employees because here's the deal, under the current system even under your employers plan you are paying at least a $5,000 deductible. are you still paying copays, looking at premiums. under my medicare for all system the private insurance companies are no longer going to be able to do that, so what's going to happen? when you walk into your doctors office whether you choose a public plan or private plan, you're not going to put down a private card, your health care card and you're not going to have your employer or insurance agency dictate what doctor you can see. >> you came out swinging last night. you were also on the receiving end of more incoming. were you prepared for that last night? did you expect that, i should say? >> i have to tell you i actually joked with my team and i said i've never owned a red suit.
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and i said we're going to go on this and i'll probably have a target on my back, so maybe i should get a red suit so i'll be easy to find. and i didn't need a red suit to be easy to find it turns out. >> so tulsi gabbard, do we have that sound to play? let's listen. >> she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then asked about it when she was asked did she ever smoke marijuana. she blocked evidence -- she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. she kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of california, and she fought to keep the task bail system in place that impacts people in the worst kind of way. >> it was quite a moment. it's interesting, your response after the debate was different than your response on the debate stage. do you wish you'd been more
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aggressive directly with her on the stage? >> to your point about the dynamic of the debate, there is that dynamic where those people perceived to be the front-runner have to be prepared to take incoming. and then there is the piece that is just about the substance of it, right? and the reality is that i am very proud of the work that i did, and i as a prosecutor, i am a daughter of parents that met when there was an actual civil rights movement. i was born into a life and community where i was acutely aware of ininjustice in the criminal justice system but also acutely aware all people want public safety and i'm never going to buy the myth certain people don't. so i became a prosecutor. i became the prosecutor and did the work of creating one of the first in the nation reentry initiatives focused on former offenders and getting them jobs and counseling.
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it was so innovative that the united states department of justice, the obama administration, designated my work as a model of innovation for law enforcement in the united states. i did the work of running the second largest dedepartment of justice in the united states which is the california department of justice, an office of almost 5,000 people. and the work we did there included me requiring my special agents wore body cameras. i'm told we are the first state law enforcement agency to have required it. i'm proud of the work i did focusing on children and making the connection between public education and public safety and the need to take the education of children as seriously as you do your own safety. so this is the work i've done. am i going to take hits? of course, incoming there are going to be hits on a debate stage when people are trying to, you know, make a name for themselves. >> i want to talk about the black vote. we just had harry henton on but he crunches all the numbers and joe biden is doing really well with the black vote. all of the polls show him doing
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i mean notably, exponentially he's doing better than his closest -- here you go. 53% of black democrats would prefer biden then senator harris down at 7%. and so do you think that last night changed any of that equation, and what do you think you need to do? >> first of all, a lot of that is based on name recognition. and we're still early in this campaign. and i'm very proud of the work we have done. we are building up a campaign where we have incredible support in all the primary states and building it up in other states. i am prepared to earn the vote and to make my case. and, you know, when you have somebody that has been in office for decades who was the vice president under a very popular president, i would expect that people would know who he is and there would be a high level of name recognition as a result. but i am going to be out here
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competing. and i'll tell you, if you judge it by who is showing up and the kind of support we're getting on the ground, the endorsements we're receiving, i will tell you i'm fully prepared and equipped to compete on a very serious level and i intend to win this election. >> senator kamala harris, thanks so much. great to see you in detroit. wherever you go, we'll meet you there. thank you, senator. all right, senator cory booker, he was also on the debate stage last night. he also had moments of contrast with the candidates up there including former vice president joe biden. and there he is. senator cory booker walking up the stairs right now. he joins us. [farmers bell] ♪ (burke) a "rock and wreck."
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not every format is for every person but did you feel like a ten person stage was -- >> i would far prefer less people on the stage. but first of all i have a lot of love for people on that stage. these are people that i feel close to. the old joke in washington, if you want a friend, get a dog, that's actually not true. these are real friends. so i felt like we were having a family discussion. and, you know, some families it gets kind of intense at times, but at the end of the day we're still family and the that's the issue i keep bringing up, which is we have a common goal here to get to the november elections and beat donald trump. so that's what i kept in my mind. we're up here for a noble purpose and perhaps one of the most unprecedented moments in history, a president from the oval office using rhetoric, we
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have an urgency and crisis in our country. the very culture of our country is at stake. so you've got to have a spirit up there as much as you are talking about differences never lose we are connected as sisters and brothers by purpose. >> one thing noted is that more people say this president is racist than thought george wallace was racist at the time. just an aside. >> not surprising. >> last night one thing you said the person enjoying this debate right now is donald trump as we pit democrats against each other. you said that on the stage last night. you also accused joe biden of having it both ways on barack obama. so my question to you is are you having it both ways on democrats, you know, pitting things against each other? because you were tough on joe biden last night. >> well, first of all, anyone that goes up against donald trump better be tough and ready, but i do not like it when democrats are using tropes that the republicans use against us
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against each other and that are not working to point out that, you know, look, i disagree with you, but whoever is the nominee, i'm going to be with that person. and we've got to remember that one of the many reasons we fell short the last election is because we weren't as united as we should have been as a party. i have a lot of belief i am the right person to unite this party, runite this country. i am going to throw all of my spirit and support behind whoever that person is. i definitely have disagreements with vice president joe biden but i'm not sucker punching him. i'm very straightforward with my disagreements. but at the end of the day, i respect him. he's a statesman, been at this for decades. i'm not trying to actually tear him down. i'm trying to prepare our party to deal with the issues i think voters care about. >> you do go after him a lot about the 1990 crime bill he was
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supportive of. and within that bill was also an assault weapons ban. and when that expired we have seen a state of mass shootings. and so was it all bad? was that bill all bad? >> first of all, i think i'm the only person in this race that had a person killed by an assault rifle on their block last year, shahad smith on my block. so i live the scourge of gun violence in my community. in detroit we had this horrible shooting and in gilroy. so let's not obscure the fact we have an urgency on gun violence. but also i live in a city where the criminal justice system built-up over these bills from the '80s, 90s, literally joe biden said every crime bill major and minor since 1970 that had my name on it, and these are crime bills that brought us three strikes and you're out, it
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brought us a 500% increase in mass incarceration. but what's worse as we now stand an out liar in all of humanity, 5% of the growth population overwhelmingly nonviolent offenders. the kids in college -- i went to stanford. no one was geing arrested there for using drugs or dealing drugs, i'm sorry. blacks are four times as likely to be arrested for drugs even though there's no difference in the usage or selling. so we've got to speak to the fact right now there are people unjustly incarcerated, right now because of things done in those bills. so if you can't speak to that i'm going to tack you on, because i've bib doing this since i was a law student working in legal clinics trying to fight against this system. >> under criticism last night also the teams when barack obama was president. there was a lot of focus on things that took place during
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the eight years when he was office and not participated necessarily in a flattering way. and one of the things you hear this morning is if barack obama was too far right, what does it say about today's democratic party. i'm just telling you what we're hearing. >> first of all, i miss obama, and i miss her husband, too. look, he is our statesman, and anybody who was an executive was an executive two terms. he ain't perfect. and i'm sure barack obama was sitting here and i hope he's sleeping this morning. he will tell you i made some mistakes and to not point them out, donald trump is the guy that my republican colleagues can't even criticize when he's preaching racism. we will have an honest conversation about an administration that was incredible. heck, if he were running for president for a third term, i wouldn't be running. the reality is we have a situation right now where we have a president that is doing things to this country
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perverting our very values and ideals. and talking about what our plans would be different than the current president is not a bad thing. >> we started with that line you had about the kool-aid and little did we expect that to be the most controversial line on our panel. our analysts went to town on that line today. they had a field day earlier on the program so we're just going to recap for you. >> i am worried. >> you should be worried. so let us play what our panel thought about that line. here it is. >> senator booker, you know i love you man but this is my time, here comes the kool-aid. >> black phrases you don't enunciate every word. >> dipping in the flavor. >> you all up in the kool-aid and you don't know the flavor. he was too pedigreed with it.
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>> they thought you were using the queens english, basically. what do you think? what's your retort to that? >> i'm getting torn up by my fellow black people. they're pulling me down for not explicitly stating it like we might do up in the hood. and then i get points is cory code switching right now, talking to different people in different ways. in a debate you get up there in front of millions of americans, to have the vice president of the united states distorting your record, do it with a smile and come back with a colloquialism we use in our communities. >> for the record there, mayor gillum recused himself. i'm not getting involved in that all. >> by the way, those folks that were coming to be their friends, we'll have some conversations off camera. >> senator cory booker, great to see you this morning.
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all right, many of the democratic candidates took jabs at former vice president joe biden last night. the result, well criticisms of policies that were enacted under president obama. here's an example. >> i asked the vice president point-blank did he use his power to stop those deportations. he went right around the question. >> vice president you can't have it both ways. you invoke president obama more than anybody in this campaign. you can't do it when it's convenient and dodge it when it's not. >> your plan by contrast leaves out almost 10 million americans. so i think that you should really think about what you're saying. >> mr. vice president, it looks like one of us has learned the lessons of the past and one of us hasn't. >> joining us now we have jill lockheart, former clinton white
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house press secretary, and the former spokesperson for hillary. paul begalla, and jennifer psaki. i guess i'll start with you, jen. too much obama talk for you last night? >> was there too much? >> yes. >> there was too little i think. >> but too much negative talk about obama policy. >> you know, i think what they miss an opportunity to do is build on obama's legacy. every election is about moving forward and i don't think we saw enough of that from any candidates on the debate stage last night or either two nights but barack obama is at 95% approval rating among democrats. independents love him, women in suburbs love him. he is still a beloved figure so that's a missed opportunity. i think barack obama, when people did bring him up, they were criticizing him to your
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point. if that was the right strategy to make sure donald trump wasn't in the white house, he would be leading the charge to say attack me, i want one of you to be in the white house. it's not. and hopefully they would have learned the lesson that they can build on, they can give a forward looking vision but they can also talk about the successes that they should move forward from. and i think that was a really missed opportunity the last two nights. >> i have to say and we've got on tv for 14 hours, a long time this morning, and we've talked to a lot of democrats and i get the sense there are some cranky democratic debate watchers this morning. >> i'm one of them. >> why? >> for the reason first up jen pointed out, my party attacked the democratic president barack obama's policies more than they attacked donald trump's. like what the hell people? i can do the commercial for obama. i thought cory booker did a great job just now really defending and explaining why that legacy was great, but i don't feel like strategically
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when i step back after two days of this, do i feel it's more likely we beat donald trump? no, i don't. almost all of them are chasing a fringe of the democratic party, not the center of the democratic party. and last night they seemed to be running away from a successful two-term president who all he did was save detroit, save the auto industry, helped save the whole american economy. >> pre-existing conditions and nobody talked about -- >> no health care for more than 50 years, two outstanding women on the paris climate accord. what the hell people? >> what's the answer to that? what were they doing? >> first of all we were trying to get on the stage enseptember. as we take a step back, remember that these first two debates i think a lot of this was trying to get your punches in. but also, look, i love president obama, but the truth is there is a mixed record.
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they did call him in the deporter in chief. whether or not you want to hear that on the bait stage or not. we're going to hear we didn't go far enough on the banks. if you're going to talk about barack obama, which i thought was proud of joe biden, he did talk about deright and michigan and saving the auto industry, which i thought was smart. and he did try to talk about the things we were able to do under president obama and i was proud he took some credit where credit was due obviously, but i agree with paul, though. let's talk about the future. there were so many moments i just felt like i just -- i'll tell you the person i felt the best, michael bennett who paul and i were just talking about, a former school chancellor in colorado. when he went from why are we talking about 50 years ago when schools are still segregated today and the direct line from slavery to red lining and what we see happening, and what are
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we doing about it now when we've got the most racist in the white house? that was probably the best answer and best example of what i think we've all been talking about which is it's got to be about beating donald trump. >> and i agree with paul, i think the two big questions this morning are are democrats in better positions? and again because joe biden is a front-runner right now, pretty far ahead in all the polls, is he better or worse off than he was heading into these two debates? >> i think biden is in a better place. because when you're the front-runner, when you have a lead, you need someone to change the dynamic of the race. and the dynamic of the race was not changed in the last two days. we are in roughly the same place. there's going to be some movement underneath biden, but it doesn't impact biden, which means that's good news for biden. while he didn't win the debate last night, he won the week because he comes out as a strong front-runner. i think ironically, you know,
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all of these guys are going after obama to tie bidens in. they're going after really biden. i think that helps biden because as jen said obama is at 95%. and if you're sitting at home and you're cranky paul begalla yelling at your tv -- you're saying hold on a second i love barack obama and why is this candidate going after him and why is that candidate? so on the question of are democrats better off today than they were two days ago, i think they are. because i think it's going to be a biden-like candidate who can beat trump that the moderates in the party came through i think stronger than what paul calls the fringe of our party. >> jen, there was a lot of question before last noekt's debate whether or not biden would have the stance, whether he'd be able to keep pace with
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the endurance. i don't know how they do it, the athleticism of it. it was actually harder than we anticipated for biden. he was taking incoming for an hour and a half, two hours, whatever, from everywhere and he is where today? >> i think for the biden supporters who are kind of breathing in a paper bag for a week since the last debate, they feel pretty good. he was good enough and he had a solid opening. he really -- counter punch is an overused term -- but he deflected attacks and did it in a happy warrior way and didn't do it in a nasty way, i thought. and in the end he was tired by the end. and i think if you're dissecting it, it may have raised some questions does he have the stamina left. i was at a bar and i was watching and i kind of get it, but there were moments where he flubbed a bit, lost his train of thought, he had the moment with
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the texting where he kind of missed the mark we all saw. but that's not fatal for his campaign. and he's still the only candidate beating donald trump in ohio. that's what they're going to go back to and he is in a far better place now than he was a couple days ago in my view. >> one of the things you do is i draw it on a piece of paper, this is your home base. so every answer you find a way to get back to that home base. joe biden's home base should be to clear us, which is that's why i'm the guy who can beat trump. he did not do a very good job of that last night and i think you're right he came through just fine, jen. but if i'm a biden strategist, i still have to work on disciplining my candidate to bringing it back to a noun, a verb. >> and you tweeted that. >> one thing different about this week's debates than we saw
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a month ago which is a muptd ago there was the first night elizabeth warren did well and there was the second night and everyone forgot the first night. i think this time around, karen, you're still hearing about elizabeth warren. i think you continue to feel her presence and did on that stage throughout the second debate and even this morning. so what does that say? >> i think that says we're probably going to hear more from her and she's going to have to figure out how she, and she'll probably try to engage joe biden in the next month or so on the economy. that's where they've had disagreements before. it obviously said she had a very strong performance on the first night and we're still talking about it. it also says she'll continue to probably pull people away from bernie. i expect we'll see her numbers going up and her fund-raising did quite well. so for her this was a great week, actually. there were a couple of mentions of her on the second night but
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no incoming. that being said, she hasn't really been in a position in the last two debates to be on the stage and be attacked herself as a front-runner. so that will be interesting to see. i guess we don't know how many people will be on the stage in september yet. that'll be interesting, can she -- will she be able to take the incoming? she did it quite well. >> guys, thank you very much. we really appreciate your analysis being here in detroit. >> we'll always have detroit. >> john thinks we're never leaving. >> everybody should come to detroit. it's a great place, and we just had a ball here. thank you, detroit. now we have a little bit of breaking news to tell you about because one person is dead after this massive ecplosion in kentucky, so we'll bring you all the breaking details as they come into our newsroom next. wow!
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don't know and who has hardly any foreign policy or intelligence experience. so we here at cnn have dug into what he said behind closed doors as well as fox news with his many appearances on that network and his comments reveal someone who's a fierce defender of the president, extremely skeptical of the mueller investigation and of the intelligence community that he wants to lead. take a listen. >> think about that. a dossier funded by the democrats, pedaled through the obama intelligence community, falsely verified by the obama justice department, then sold to the american people by those very same elected democrats. there's been so much focus on the fbi and department of justice, martha, but a lot of the questions that remt late toe origins of this go to the cia. >> and all these past comments are coming to light as radcliffe is having to defend himself against accusations he's had in his résume.
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the baits in detroit are officially over though john berman is reliving them as we speak. so where does that leave democrats? who performed well enough to make the next round? let's get the bottom line with cnn political director david chalian. david, great to have you here. good work. i know you've been holding your breath until this moment and now that the dust is settling, there was some talk how after detroit the deck would be reshuffled. has it been? >> it will be simply by the math. the next round of debates, the threshold for getting those up, i think we're done with the 20-candidate field and i think it's probably a good thing not just for us who cover it but probably for the democratic party who the dnc is trying to move these thresholds but give everyone their fair shot to make their case. i think it's very hard, 20
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candidates across two noights fr voters to make an assessment. >> aside from the numbers game, what's different this morning than monday? >> well, let's be clear what is different is joe biden proved that he can stand on the stage and take a lot of incoming and survive the night. >> it stings. it was clear it stung after a while. >> yes, he's a front-runner in the polls but he's got such a long run and i think boast of those things were apparent on the stage last night, but he survived something he had to survive. >> i don't know if you were up, it was in the 6:00 hour, andrew yang, he pointed out laughing -- he goes, you know, after the first debate where everyone thought biden did a terrible job, he bounced back right to where he was. what's going to happen now after a debate where largely people
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think he did just fine? >> i didn't think there was a ton of stuff that happened on the stage. we'll see what that is. just a long campaign ahead. now i think what also happens is he's in the early skirmishes. everyone sort of defined the battles they're going to engage in with each other. now the hard work of organizing in the early states, moving ahead, doing that fund-raising and make sure it's funded all the way through, the mechanicofmechanic of the came pain become very important. >> they felt there was too much friendly fire. do you think it leaves any marks on the democrats? >> you know, it is not new for the democratic party to wring their hands in concern. i think we've seen this time and again. i think it's a little overdone the hammering, and i think these primary battles, they do get uncomfortable for the family members, right? i understand why a party gets concerned. but we are a year away from the
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conventions and turning to the general election. they need to sort this out and figure out the direction they're going in, the kind of candidate they think can inspire the country to try and defeat donald trump. that's what this is about. i would urge them to stop with the hammering. >> in terms of looking forward there's still one super important thing we haven't seen, which is the biden-elizabeth warren. >> i think it's so important. we know there's a history there, but they are two heavy hitters in this race. they are the matchup we haven't seen yet. and i think getting this down to one stage for voters to see all at one time these are thomost likely people and let them make a decision there and let them draw their contrast, i think it'll help focus what is sometimes scene. >> thank you for all your work here. hope crow get a chance to get some sleep. so much more to discuss this morning. we're going to see some of those candidates as they go out through the day and compain
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a very good thursday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto in new york alongside poppy in detroit. >> can you believe we're together? we're in the same city. it's good to be back. back-to-back democratic debates now over in detroit, night two looked more like motown fight club but with this club everyone is talking and with word on the street this morning, there's really no clear-cut winner. >> the candidate who took on and doled out a lot of the punches they are immediately hitting the campaign trail. joe biden, kamala harris, cory booker all staying in detroit today. athena jones has a recap of the nights most combative moments. good morning,

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