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breaking news here. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. we have breaking news out of washington, d.c. the political man of mystery is not, i repeat, not running for president. joe biden after months of speculation and guessing games and recent jabs at hillary clinton revealed his decision moments ago alongside the president of the united states and his wife, dr. jill biden. let's let the vice president explain. >> as my family and i have worked through the grieving process, i've said all along what i've said time and again to others, that it may very well be
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that that process, by the time we get through it, closes the window on mounting a realistic campaign for president, that it might close of the i'. i've concluded it has closed. i know from previous experience that there's no timetable for this process. the process doesn't respect or much care about things like filing deadlines or debates and primaries and caucuses. but i also know that i could do this if -- i couldn't do this if the family wasn't ready. the good news is the family has reached that point. but, as i've said many times, my family has suffered loss, and i hoped there would come a time -- and i've said this to many other families -- that sooner rather than later when you think of your loved one it brings a smile
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to your lips before it brings a tear to your eyes. well, that's where the bidens are today, thank god. beau is our inspiration. unfortunately, i believe we're out of time. the time necessary to mount a winning campaign for the nomination. but while il n will not be a candidate, i will not be silent. i tend to speak out clearly and forcefully to influence as much as i can where we stand as a party and where we need to go as a nation. and this is what i believe. i believe that president obama has led this nation from crisis to recovery and we're now in the cusp of resurgence. i'm proud to have played a part in that. this party, our nation, will be making a tragic mistake if we
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walk away or attempt to undo the obama legacy. the american people have worked too hard, and we've come too far for that. democrats should not only defend this record and protect this record, they should run on the record. we've got a lot of work to get done over the next 15 months, and there's a lot of -- there's a lot that the president will have to get done. but let me be clear, that we'll be building on a really solid foundation. but it all starts with giving the middle class a fighting chance. >> much to discuss here. let me bring in our senior washington correspondent jeff saturdzf len any and michael smerconish. welcome, you two. jeff, we brought you off
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vacation a couple of days ago because you had the latest and greatest reporting all things joe biden and now to many's surprise, not running. what happened? >> right. brooke, this is part of a process, and this is where a lot of his friends hoped that this would end up. so some people are wondering, how, did the meneed area get th wrong? this has been a series of joe biden unplugged in realtime. he made so many telephone calls to see if there was still time to run. but he end of the day he concluded there simply wasn't time. in that statement, so interesting, he said his family had signed on. in facts one of his daughters-in-law was very much looking forward to a campaign. she's been doing media interviews. he was reaching out to people. he wanted so much to run. beat the end of the the day, i'm told he didn't see a path to this. he zpieded last night i'm told but didn't tell the president until today, this morning. the president said that he would be be with him at his side to make this announcement in the rose garden.
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so certainly interesting. so much reaction from across the democratic party. but the person who this affects the most, of course, is hillary clinton. she was expecting him to run. they were preparing for this. he, of course, has been offering a lesson to her. we thought they were warning shots saying, don't call republicans your enemy. actu actually it ways a lesson. her statement says, i am confident that history isn't finished with joe biden. as he said today, there's more work to do and if i know joe he will always be on the front lines, always fighting for all of us. brooke, of course she would like his endorsement. he is not endorsing anyone at this too time. he'll stay very much involved in the campaign. >> michael smerconish, off jeff's point, without saying the name hillary clinton, using the enemy's line in reference to what she said at the debate last tuesday and also what he said that made news yesterday, his stance on the obl raid, what is this all about?
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i mean, he said today, while il not be a candidate, i will not be silent. is this a preview of his non-silence in the months to co come? >> well, i think he intends to stay very active. the white house just released a transcript of the speech, and i know we all watched it. but, for me, it was more impactful to read the words and then to imagine that speech as a speech of an individual announcing his or her candidacy. because, brooke, if you change the first three paragraphs of that statement that he offered -- >> it's a campaign speech. >> it's a campaign speech. and he lays out an entire platform. you know, i trust jeff's reporting. he's much closer to the situation than i am. it sure looked from a distance as if he was getting in. and i only became convince in the last 24 hours that he would because of the about-face on osama bin laden. and he really wanted that record altered. and when you now look at what he said yesterday at gw and you put
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it in some context, seemingly it was not to cast himself apart from hillary clinton but rather he wants to rewrite history in that regard. i'm not being critical. i just find that very curious. >> jeff, do you want to add anything to that? >> michael's right. everyone interpreted that as a sign he was trying to clean up a little bit of history here. he was trying to put himself on the right side of what obviously was a successful raid. and, you know, it seemed as though he was -- you know, there are stark differences between hillary clinton and joe biden on foreign policy. she's more of a hawk and he's more of a dove if you will to simplify it. i think the bigger take-away here is he did it again in the rose garden, this is his theme, his anthem, about working with republicans. so interesting that it's happening on the same day that paul ryan is essentially trying to get republicans to unify. >> the same thing paul ryan is
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saying. >> right. of course, both of those men were running mates in 2012, so many differences between the two. but a couple of similarities as well. i think joe biden was intentionally trying to send that message to hillary clinton. i think if she had a do-over she may not say republicans is her enemy because she'll see it again and again in ads. he's being very intentional with his language here. >> what about just quickly, michael, to you on the republican side, donald trump, of course he jumped on twitter. this is his tweet. i think joe biden made a correct decision for him and his family. personally i would rather run against hillary because her record is so bad. your reaction, sir? >> my reaction is that even joe biden's statement that he's not running is about donald trump in donald trump's mind. >>smerconish, jeff zelenzel zeleny, thank you.
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be sure to watch michael every saturday morning here on cnn. coming up next here, can one man unite a fractured republican party? we were just talking about him, paul ryan. he agrees he will run for the job he's never wanted. but he has demands. can he win the republicans who helped push out the current speaker john boehner? we'll talk with a member of the house freedom caucus next. also, 100 days, a major milestone for donald trump who remains the republican front-runner refusing to fade away as so many had predicted. we'll talk to someone who not only knows him, she runs one of his top hotels. and later, not one drop of alcohol. nothing. one group's advice to suspecting mother that's is shaking up this debate about drinking while pregnant. you're watching cnn. be right back. try roc® retinol correxion® night cream...
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. you just heard the big news out of d.c. the vice president will not be running for president come 2016. that is the white house. now for the headline from capitol hill. paul ryan says he is willing to become the next speaker of the house of representatives. but if he has his way, it will not be the same job that john boehner is leaving. ryan has set several conditions in order to take on that position that, remember, is second in line to the presidency. >> this is not a job i've ever wanted, i've ever sought. i'm in the job i've always wanted here in congress. i came to the conclusion this is a dire moment not just for congress and the republican party but for our country. i think our country is in desperate need of leadership. >> the conditions congressman ryan is stipulating. here you go, support of three factions in the house of representatives including the freedom caucus who some blame for the current republican leadership vacuum. number two, a rules change to
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make it more difficult to overthrow a sitting speaker. and the final demand, something that john boehner himself said today can be done. >> the last point is personal. i cannot and il not give up my family time. >> i athink there's a way to do that and i've frankly outlined over the last week or so a way that paul could do this differently than the way i did it. >> in what way would that be be? >> we'll let him decide. >> want to turn to an important perfect spiktive on this, ken buck a member of the house freedom caucus. congressman buck, thank you for joining me. >> thank you. >> we know that congressman ryan is set to meet with the freedom caucus in just about an hour 45 minutes. what could he say to you, sir, that would mean you would absolutely support him? >> i think the freedom caucus is looking for a more open process. i think we're looking for a leader that is going to get on tv and advocate for the
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positions that republicans take in the house. i respect the fact that he wants to spend more time with miz thi family. i think the less fund-raising the better he does in the reality of how he's going to do his job. >> one of the conditions we he just ran through, congressman, includes changing the rules, making it more difficult to overthrow a sitting speaker. it was congressman labrador from idaho a leader of your freedom caucus calls that a, quote, nonstarter. d do you agree? >> i believe that one person being able to file a motion may be able to changed. i don't think we make it a two-thirds majority, prohibitive for a motion to take down the speaker. i think we have to make sure that if a speaker does something that embarrasses the house that house members commits a crime or
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some other act, that the house can act quickly and take care of that issue. so i think there should -- >> let's say crime aside, when you're saying we make it prohibitive, transation you don't like what congressman ryan is proposing in that regard. >> i don't like a ban on taking down a speaker until the next election two years later, no. >> what about his strategy? talking to a number of pundits, they are saying this is brilliant. here if your house freedom caucus does not green-light congressman ryan's wish list, then you lose. hugh hewitt in a cnn op-ed conservative hugh hewitt wrote, we're about to see how self-destructive the republican party is. your reaction. >> well, i don't think it's a matter of being self-destructive. i think's a matter of growing. we have reached a point where the party needs to come together. i think the party will come together. and i think we need to set the rules that we want to abide by. and i think paul ryan can do that. but i think it's going to take
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compromise by a lot of different groups in the house. >> when you say come together, that means with paul ryan most likely as your leader. >> you know, i have yet to talk to the other people that at least last week were saying they're going to run. so i am not ready to commit to paul ryan. but i think he is one of the people that could bring the party together and have us move forward. i'm waiting to hear from him in an hour to see exactly what he's going to say. >> right. one of the people -- let me follow up with that. we have a new cnn poll that shows that the republican has a 74% disapproval rating, republican leaders in congress. if not paul ryan, i know you want to hear from some others, who would be at the top of your "others" list? >> i know jason chaffetz withdrew his nomination. i don't know if marshall blackburn is still running. a number of people floated their names last week. i don't know who is still in at this point. i'm anxious to talk to those folks. >> and finally, the point about how congressman ryan does want
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to spend time with his family, how that is totally important to him. you agree with that, you warrant want to allow him to go home. it ace a tough job, isn't is it? >> it's a tough joub. credit to john boehner for spending years traveling the country and doing fund-raisers and promoting republicans and republican issues around the country. but i think it took a lot away from john boehner in terms of being able to work with the media and advocate for the positions we're looking for. i think each speaker defines their role and i think paul ryan will be different than his predecessors. >> congressman buck, thank you so much for the time. you've got a big meeting ahead. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, donald trump stopping the polls. listen, this is what we're saying every day. it's been, what, four months? next we'll talk to someone who knows him quite well. suzy mills, the general manager of the trump hotel and power here just off central park in new york. what is it like all these years to work for mr. trump?
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a new day. a new poll and once again it is donald trump in the top spot against his republican rivals. look at the numbers with me, the latest abc news/"washington post" poll shows trump soaring at 32%. and more leaning republicans don't just think he has the best shot at wiping the nomination. 43% also believe he has the best chance of winning the general election. a lot of pundits, supporters are saying the pollsters are voting on his personality, not his politics. joining me now is someone who
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knows that personality oh, so well, suzie mills, the general manager of the trump tower across the way in central park. nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> you've been working for mr. trump for 19 years? >> yes, 19 years. >> in those years, did you ever hear him say, i want to be president of the united states? >> a few years ago, yes, i did hear him say those words. >> what did he say about that? and what was the reaction in the room? >> he was excited about the prospect which was great to hear. and we're all excited for him. >> was anybody like, okay, you're not really going to do that? >> no. everyone was supportive. >> you've known his kids, ivanka since she was itty-bitty. >> she was still in school. >> it's the first time we really heard from his daughter last week with poppy harlow at the women's forum. she talked about her relationship with her father. but for someone who's known her
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for so long, can you describe that relationship? >> he is so respectful of the job that ivanka does. likewise with myself, he's extremely respectful of the job that i do. he's very encouraging. always very encouraging to all of his children and knows what an amazing job they do running his company and is very confident with the job that they do each and every day to make sure that trump hotel collection is the best hotel collection in the usa. >> are you surprised ivanka trump isn't more involved in the campaign? >> i think ivanka's focus is obviously to be building her own brand as well as the hotel collection and the development of the trump organization. and she's very, very busy, very busy working mom trying to balance everything. >> when you look at some of these donald trump rallies, i think most people would assume, of course, he's this billionaire, real estate, tv mogul. of course he'll have the support from white collar folks. but a lot of blue collar americans attend these rallies as well. does that surprise you?
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>> it doesn't surprise me. i think he's speaking to a lot of people. he's stirring a lot of pots that needed to be be stirred. and i think he'll do an amazing job. >> what pot needed stirring, you think? >> i'm not going to get into the politics. obviously he hired me to do a great job of running the best hotel in new york city, which is what i'm doing, and i leave all of the politics up to him. >> can you just tell me a story of how donald trump is behind closed doors in meetings? i know you're in meetings with him quarterly at least during the year. what is he like personalitywise with everyone? >> he is so supportive of the job that i do, and so respectful of the job that i do. he wants to know every single detail about the hotel, what's going on, who's checking in, how busy we are, when we do a renovation. he gets into the intricate details. >> doing renovations of the hotel. >> down to picking the size of the television was the last project we did. >> you have to be kidding me. >> it's his baby.
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he really cares. his attention to detail is absolutely phenomenal, and i always admire that about him. his attention to detail every time he walks into the building, every time we look at something to buy, he makes sure that that is perfect. he will not settle for anything else. >> "saturday night live," he'll be on november 7th. you haven't had any back-and-forth, you haven't given him any tips on how to -- >> i haven't given him any pointers, no. i have not. >> we know, though, on a serious note that some hispanic groups are furious over this. they want him -- they want to boycott. they're furious with nbc for putting him on an entire show. how do you think he will do? >> i think he will do great. he is able to laugh at himself, and i think he will give a phenomenal performance, and i'm sure it will probably be the highest rated show that "saturday night live" has ever had. >> and i'm sure he will tell us
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all about how it was the highest rated show for some time. suzie mills, thank you so much for swinging by. >> thank you, brooke. next, hillary clinton behind closed doors preparing for tomorrow's grilling 50 republicans on benghazi. we'll speak live with senator barbara boxer about the showdown and the big news out of our nation's capital, the fact that joe biden has decided not to run for president. isease it can be especially serious- even fatal to infants. unfortunately, many people who spread it may not know they have it. it's called whooping cough. and the cdc recommends everyone, including those around babies, make sure their whooping cough vaccination is up to date. understand the danger your new grandchild faces. talk to your doctor or pharmacist about you and your family getting a whooping cough vaccination today.
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from the white house. but that doesn't mean he will remain silent on this race. for the past couple of days he has been fueling speculation with a series of veiled swipes at his would-be rival hillary clinton and her remarks specifically at our debate week, the republicans are her enemies. and today he did it again. >> i don't consider republicans enemies. they're friends. but even darrell issa has said, you know, this is how every government program should be administered. i really respect the members up there, and i still have a lot of republican friends. i don't think my chief enemy is the republican party this is a matter of making things work. the other team is not the enemy. if you treat it as the enemy, there is no way we can ever, ever, ever resolve the problems we have to. i don't believe, like some do, that it's naive to talk to republicans. i don't think we should look at republicans as our enemy.
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they are our opposition. they're not our enemies. and for the sake of the country, we have to work together. >> joining me now from washington, democratic senator from california barbara boxer. welcome. >> thank you, brooke. >> let me just begin with that mash-up of sound bites we played. i know you can't crawl into the heart and mind of the vice president, but why do you think he's been doing that, these veiled swipes at your friend hillary clinton? >> well, they're both my friends. they're very dear friends. i've thought joe did the right thing for his family, and he's got a lot of work ahead of him in the last 14 months of his being vice president. and i think, you know, if you look at when hillary said that, she was making kind of a joke because we had just learned that the whole benghazi committee charade was about bringing down her numbers. if you look at the tape, it was kind of a joke. i served in the senate with both joe and hillary.
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both of them were terrific at working across the aisle. the things that republicans have said about both of them and especially when hillary came, everyone thought, will she be part of that? she was the best. so i don't know why he focused on that so much. but if he can go to the republicans now and take care of the debt ceiling and make them not shut down the government, all to the good. but i think we all work with the republicans. i think what she said was kind of a joke and it was an afterthought. you have to look at the tape and put it in context. >> let's talk about what you just referenced, a shade. i'm sure republicans would disagree with you. but tomorrow hillary clinton faces the republican-led house benghazi committee. and this as we get another poll in from monmouth university. let me just read the showing that most of the american public believes that the committee is not looking for the facts. senator boxer, how do you think the republicans will handle all of this tomorrow, just in terms
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of tone and public perception? >> well, you know the expression the emperor has no clothes? and you find out the real truth? how did we find out the real truth? we guessed and thought this was completely a witch hunt against her. then kevin mccarthy their elected leader in the house, look at benghazi, we brought down her poll numbers. richard hanna is a very nice, good man over there representing a district in new york, a house member, said, that's right, it was political. the republican whistle-blower said he got fired, we found out from him that the staffers actually had glasses made up for their wine evening they had once a week that said "glacial pace" because we all said this committee is moving at a glacial pace. for goodness' sakes it's lasted longer than watergate this investigation of benghazi, iran contra, hurricane katrina and the warren commission which l k
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looked into the assassination of jfk. this is ridiculous, 800 pages. so what i think is the republicans have, by mistake i think, frankly, led us to the truth. >> how will they handle it? forgive me for interrupting. how will they handle this tomorrow? >> you know, that's not my problem. what i know is hillary clinton knows what the rest of us know, that this is a witch hunt. but, despite that, she lost one of her really dear friends ambassador stevens. she's going to cooperate. she's going to tell the truth. she's going to answer the questions. if they -- you know, they are in a difficult spot. because if they go after her, everyone is going to say, we thought that was the case. and if they're so soft and they don't really ask anything much, people are going to say, why have you spent more than $4 million of taxpayer money, frankly, i agree with my leadership. i think that the republican national committee ought to pay taxpayers back. this was a political witch hunt, and it's outrageous.
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i hope it just gets over with because we know everything there is to know. and by the way, out of all of the recommendations that came out of the bipartisan commission study, they were all put in place by hillary clinton. they were started, most of them put in place and kerry is finishing it up. so we're moving forward. >> senator, i have to get your response to this tweet. this is from louisiana governor bob bobby jindal as you know who whack wants to be the president. democrats are now left with a socialist or a candidate under fbi investigation, hillary clinton, let's embrace our conservative principles and we will win. what is your reaction, senator? >> consider the source. how many people are supporting him? is it 1% or less? his own party? he's a very negative force. when you watch that democratic debate, i'll tell you i was proud to be for hillary and i
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was proud to be a democrat. you know why? we didn't divide the country up. we didn't attack everybody in the country or each other. we all spoke for what we need to do to make sure the middle class in this country has opportunity. and joe biden is right. we have seen this country with the leadership of the obama administration move out of the worst recession since the great depression. we have more work to do, but we cannot go backwards. we cannot have these witch hunts against hillary clinton or cecile richards of planned parenthood. this is not the way to run a country. we're better than that. >> finally and quickly, i have to ask you about carly fiorina. you defeated her in the senate race in 2010. i don't know where she's been recently. she had a tremendous performance at the reagan library debate but then she's lost her momentum. when you look at the polls you can see that. why do you think she has -- i don't know -- dropped so precipitously? >> well, i predicted this
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because i saw it happen in california. she's very appealing and extremely articulate. but what she's sa aeshe's selli optimistic. she's also someone who goes on the attack. she's the symbol of corporate greed and wall street excess. just look at her campaign. she ran this campaign against me. she lost it by ten points, a million votes. she didn't even pay her staff before she reimbursed herself over a million dollars. and when you step on people like that, it comes back to haunt you. she did it to them at hp. she shipped their jobs overseas in some cases they were forced to train their replacements. and she climbed up that leader until she got fired. so i just predict eed -- there'a song, i think it's the more you see her the more you love her. it's the opposite with carly fiorina. more you know, the less you like. i think the republicans were smaut r smart and they saw it. >> senator boe or barbara boxer
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you so much. >> thanks, brooke. coming up next on cc, a church musician shot and killed by a plainclothes police officer in an unmarked patrol car. what really happened on that florida highway in the middle of the night? > we sort of evolved to always procreate. there wasn't birth control or anything. before the gravity of this will become the issue in the next few decades. >> water covers 71% of our planet. but we sometimes forget that 96.5% of that has salt in it. >> the first guy to use osmosis was a frenchman making wine. he found he wanted to dilute his alcohol. it was too strong.
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a south florida family is calling for justice after their loved one, a well-known local mu significance, was shot and killed by a police officer. this case is under investigation and the officer involved is now on paid leave. here's what we know. officials are downplaying race as a factor. the victim is 31-year-old kory jones, black of the the plain clothed officer indian-american. molina machado explains what officials say happened and the backlash from the victim's
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family. >> my nephew is broken down on the side of the road. >> reporter: cory jones' uncle struggles to tell the story of how his 31-year-old nephew ended up shot and killed by a police officer after his car broke down on a florida highway. >> i'd like to offer our condolences. >> reporter: on tuesday, the palm beach gardens police chief attempted to explain what happened, saying around 3:00 a.m. sunday officer neumann raja who as wearing plain cloejtz and driving an unmarked car stopped to investigate what he thought was an abandoned vehicle on an exit ramp. >> as the officer exited his vehicle, he was suddenly confronted by an armed subject. as a result of the confrontation, the officer discharged his firearm, resulting in the death of mr. cory jones. >> reporter: police say they found this handgun near jones' car. its serial matching the gun they say jones bought three days before the deadly encounter, a
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purchase his family was surprised to find out about. in fact, family and friends describe the popular drummer who played with a local band and at his church as peaceful and laid-back. >> in a state of disbelief because of all people cory. cory is not someone that we would think would be shot by a police officer. >> reporter: now supporters are calling for a peaceful rally thursday at the police department. >> he don't deserve this. he don't. we just need justice. >> here with me now, former federal prosecutor sunny hostin and former dea agent david katz. so welcome of course to both of you. the family wants transz pair s from the police department. we weren't there, but knowing all the details, what do you think happened? >> well, the problem is we don't really know owl the details. this is all surmise. my best guess is mr. jones is
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broken down. an unmarked car pulls behind him. under the best of circumstances, at that hour, you're a little suspect. a car pulls behind you, 315 in the morning, even if you believe it's an unmarked police car, there's still a little part of you that says, is he really? >> sure. apprehensi apprehension. >> so perhaps he took his firearm and walked around his car to just see who it was. the officer gets out of the car, may or may not have identified himself properly, we don't know. all he sees is a man with a gun and fires. awful. horrible tragedy. >> that would be a problem. >> there's no explanation. you're not having a discussion at that point. so the question is, were his actions reasonable and lawful? and we don't -- we know just one side of the story at this point. >> were they justifiable? i think it goes to the bigger issue and something, brooke, we talk about all the time. body cameras, body cameras, body cameras. >> there wasn't a camera. >> there wasn't even a dash cam video there. the bottom line is, i think when you're talking about police
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officers and traffic stops we know those are the most dangerous for police officers. we know that they are on high alert what that happens. but when you aren't identifiable as a police officer, when you're in an unmarked car and in plainclothes and approaching someone that has a lawful gun, that is a recipe for disaster. so it sounds to me like this could have been miscommunication on both parts. but again, the police officer is the professional here. why not announce? why not do more? why is the first response to pull your weapon? >> police say he has a clean record. i don't think he's been on the force for too terribly long. >> six months. >> i also know ben crump is jumping in as the lawyer for the family. what questions would either of you say as far as what evidence would they have, other than the officer's account, forensics? >> the first thing is, you have the officer's statement. you're going to go over that statement it in great detail. you're going to match the --
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you're going to have, i don't mean to be unnecessarily sensitive, but the shell casings will land in a certain pattern, the victim's body will land in a certain pattern. you have to make sure that statement is consistent with the facts as you know that. canvass. maybe somebody saw something, driving by and saw something. in the end, if nothing else happens, you have the victim's statement and the forensics that you can glean from the investigation. >> we were talking here on the commercial. in new york, a police officer was shot in the head and killed last night. i just wonder if this also speaks to both of your points, the skepticism or paranoia right now. >> i think so. we know our officer vz a difficult job. i was driving along 1 ist avenue and spoke to an officer who said one of his fellow officers had just been shot in the head. i can tell you that i saw officers, seasoned officers, crying on the street. >> wow. >> we are in this sort of situation now in our society. there's a prolivatiferation of . this victim had a lawful gun, and i think one of the bigger
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discussions that we often need to have is about gun control and about sort of that point of view that people have. if there are more guns, you are safer. well, that obviously wasn't the case here. >> part of your responsibility as a lawful gun owner -- by the way, as a former law enforcement officer, you're mindful. if you intercede in a crime and take action, will responding police officers understand who you are. >> exactly. >> that's always a fear. i think people who have a legal right to carry a pistol need to really appreciate that fact. >> i'm sure we'll hear much more and more details emerge. sunny and david, thank you both so much. >> thank you. next, joe biden, the big news. announcing from the white house rose garden that he will not seek the nomination for president. but did he take a swipe at hillary clinton again in his announcement? what's that strategy? we'll be right back.
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running for president after months of speculation and guessing game s and recent jabs at hillary clinton, the vice president announced his decision with his wife and president obama standing next to him. we'll play you some of the moments from the rose garden in a second. but moments ago, one of the candidates he would have competed against, senator bernie sanders, just weighed in on biden's decision. >> i just wanted to say a brief word on joe biden. joe biden is a man who has devoted his entire life to public service and to the well-being of working families and the middle class. he made a difficult decision based on the needs of his family and his view of his future. and i respect the decision that he made. i want to thank joe biden and president obama for the work
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that they have done over the last seven years in making very significant improvements to our economy. obviously we have a long way to go, but because of joe biden, because of president obama we have seen significant progress in the last seven years. let us not forget that seven years ago we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. seven years ago, the world's financial system was on the verge of collapse, and we were running the largest deficit in the history of this country. >> as my family and i have worked through the grieving process, i've said all along, what i've said time and again to others, that it may very well be that that process, by the time we get through it, closes the
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window on mounting a realistic campaign for president, that it might close. i've concluded it has closed. i know from previous experience that there's no timetable for this process. the process doesn't respect or much care about things like filing deadlines or debates and primaries and caucuses. but i also know that i could do this if -- i couldn't do this if the family wasn't ready. the good news is, the family has reached that point. but, as i've said many times, my family has suffered loss, and i hoped there would come a time -- and i've said this to many other families -- that sooner rather than later when you think of your loved one it brings a smile to your lips before it brynn br
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tear to your eyes. well, that's where the bidens are today, thank god. >> let me bring in cnn's steven colinson in washington. steven, i just got handed some information. this is actually reporting by gloria borger, a source familiar with biden's thinking. the source proves out two crucial points in the time line as far as why not to run. one, the colbert appearance where he bore his soul, hard to pivot out of that. number two, the congressman clyburn remarks on monday saying that biden would not be doing him any favors by getting in. your reaction. >> brooke, i think that makes a lot of sense. remember that appearance on colbert, vice president joe biden spoke very movingly about the death of your son. once you've said it's going to be very difficult for your family to get to a point where you're emotionally able to conduct a presidential run, that was only a few weeks ago, it becomes very difficult to then
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argue that they actually have reached that point, though the vice president did say that his family is doing a lot better now. and the south carolina point is very significant because, if biden had gotten into this race, he was somewhere behind in iowa. there wasn't really space for him in new hampshire where hillary clinton and bernie sa sanders are both very strong. so south carolina is the place where he could plant his flag. sanders isn't strong in south carolina and it would have been sort of a tussle for the african-american vote especially in the democratic primary between hillary clinton and joe biden. if cliburn comes out and says this is not possible, i think that would weigh heavily on the vice president's mind. >> stephen, i think it's so easy to say right now, aha, now we understand why the vice president is not doing this. but we've been saying for the past couple of weeks and i've talked to a lot of people who say the biden campaign has been swinging for weeks now, even over the weekend, his meeting with a top union representative
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from the most powerful firefighter union coming out of the weekend and saying it's a go. what happened in the last 24 to 48 hours do you think? >> we understand that the vice president didn't finally make his final decision not to go until last night. i think there was definitely a sense he was leaving lanes open for him stfl to run through the preceding weeks even up until yesterday when he was criticizing hillary clinton's remarks in the democratic remark last week that republicans were her enemy. i think in this sense you keep the lanes open even when you're making the final decision. i think as well as the emotional soul searching the vice president was going through about his family, he cannot have been sort of ignorant of the fact that he was in third place in this race. the lane for him to run a credible presidential campaign at this late stage was very narrow. a lot of things would have to go right for him, namely the fact that probably hillary clinton's campaign would have to implode. i don't think as well there was a sense that the vice president was necessarily ready to stand on a debate stage and tell
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hillary clinton and a democratic audience that she couldn't win the democratic nomination. >> stephen collinson, excellent perspective. thank you for your voice. let me remind everyone watching i was sitting in a seat at cnn 48 hours ago, anchoring "cnn tonight," i asked the panel this question about joe biden. show of hands, fellas. who thinks biden is not going to go for it and run for president? okay, the lone holdout. i feel this is that sesame street. you're the one standing out there. now that lone hand raiser gets to say i told you so. he is harry enten with the group 538.com. also with me, peter dao, a former adviser to hillary clinton and john kerry, also the co-founder of hillary men. great to have both of you on. you were right. >> i was right. >> don't you guys like to hear that? of i love being told i'm right. >> how did you guess that? remind us.
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>> it wasn't really a guess. we heard the media reports over and over again. oh, he's 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours. but he did not build a campaign apparatus that was necessary to run for president at this late stage. it's already october 21st, very, very light. sanders, clinton, o'malley, even chaffey have been in the race for a long time. biden hasn't. >> you could tell they were watching him, peter, he so badly has wanted this. he's wanted this for decades. you can sort of feel the heart struggling with the head. >> yes. to me it was one of the classic existential decisions that a human being has to make. i already admired and respected him. but after this decision which in my mind as a strong advocate for hillary clinton was the right decision, right for the future of women, right for the future of the party. so it says a lot about his character to go through this process and to reach the right decision when it's so tempted to
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take the other path. >> that's a great point. let me stay with you because this was the fourth time at the rose garden when we heard some sort of iteration of the swipe in reference to hillary clinton at the debate and the enemy line. i talked to senator boxer a second ago. she said being brooke, she was kidding. it was a joke. but joe biden jumped on that and you tweeted, we can't look at republicans as enemies, let's be clear. over the past week biden got a taste of what it would be like if he ran media are unforgiving. why hit hillary? what do you think the strategy was there? >> i'm not sure. it was disappointing that he did. as an advocate for secretary clinton, you know, you hit back and that's politics. his decision changed all that. it was really about the decision that he was going to make. what was in his mind saying what he said? it's very hard to tell. >> but the discussion of how many miles he's traveled around the world over hillary clinton, his stance in being with the president with regard to the
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call on bin laden. >> perhaps he was still considering running and that's -- in a campaign you take shots at your opponent. he has a right to do so. and of course as advocates for her we have the right to not be happy about it. but again, it really in the long run, the question for him was not whether he makes a comment today that will disappear after a couple of news cycles but in the long term as a human being with a legacy and who's done such great work and is so respected, he did the right thing for himself and his family. >> do you think here in the oval office we have seen just the craftings of a republican attack ad as a result of all of these lines from the vice president? >> sure. i mean, republicans desperately wanted biden to run chblt there was a reason why every single time there was some e-mail from the rnc. but of course they have plenty of fodder to work with. there are a lot of smart people working on both sides of the political aisle. they'll figure something out. >> thank you. appreciate both of you. next here, the paul ryan ultimatum. the man who is being pressured to replace john boehner as
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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. after weeks of pressure from republican house members, including the speaker john boehner himself, congressman paul ryan says he is willing to become the next house speaker. there's a but. there are a couple of conditions. here they are. number one, support of three factions within house republicans, including the freedom caucus whose members are blamed for the current republican party leadership vacuum. number two, a rules change to make it more difficult to overthrow a sitting speaker. and perhaps most surprising, this. >> last point is personal. i cannot and il not give up my family time. i may not be on the road as often as previous speakers. but i pledge to try to make up for it with more time communicating our vision, our message. >> joining me now are cnn chief political correspondent dana
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bash. let's walk through some of the feasibility of some of these demands and the support from all three factions. the freedom caucus is meeting with him in 45 minutes. talk to me about that. >> that's right. it seems as though -- i just came from capitol hill talking to many members of the so-called freedom caucus. this is about 40 members of the republican house caucus these rt people who effectively forced john boehner out. so what paul ryan wants to do, one of the demands he's making, is to change the house rules to make it difficult, much more difficult, for a group like this or any group to force any speaker out. and the reason he actually told them, i am told, the republican caucus last night in a private meeting is because he doesn't want to be the third log in their fire, meaning they pushed out john boehner, they made it impossible for kevin mccarthy to get the job so he had to drop out. he doesn't want to northbound
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t to be in the same position. if people want him to take the job, he has to take it in a way he can do it effectively. that's why he doesn't want that threat looming over him. a lot of people in the freedom caucus say, no, we're not going to change the rules that have been in place since jefferson. >> some people say it's brilliant. walking in saying, look, i'll do this only for x, y and z. if not, you lose. >> exactly. this is the sort of thing we have to keep in mind here. paul ryan does not want this job. he has made it abunt antly clear he is doing this incredibly reluctantly. he is in the job he wants, which is ways and means chairman, which means he is in charge of writing the tax laws of this country. that's what he's always wanted. he's a policy wonk. but everyone from mitt romney to john boehner and you name them in the republican establishment says, you're the only guy who can do it, please do it. that's why he has the leverage to put the conditions on. he's not begging for it. they're begging him. >> dana bash, stay with me as not only one of my favorite people in d.c., but i want you
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to play on this next conversation as a working mother. i want to get to the third ultimatum. let me bring in andrew shoo, the co-founder of cafe media, this hugely popular online community for parents. and i have to say this as well. of course you recognize him from his role as billy cable on "melrose place." how often do you get that? >> a fair amount. >> beginning with, you have been such a champion of work/life balance, between you and your lovely wife amy you have five kids. >> yes. >> you're such an advocate for that sort of balance. but for certain jobs it doesn't always apply. >> this is a job that's all in. if you look at the approval rating of congress, if you don't have a leader who can bring their party together, then hopefully maybe bring the country together, and you're not there every second doing the job that's necessary, i feel like it's a disservice to his kids.
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it's great he said family matters. >> how often do you hear that from a male politician? >> from a guy, it's a great thing to hear. but when says, my kids would say, you didn't step up, dad. you need to do this. i think your kids would actually say, dad, you know what in things may not get done in washington. we need you here. i think he actually should put his kids first. he decided to run for vp and maybe two years later he's realizing, you know what? my family means more. >> dana, tell me, just straight-up, how demanding is this job as speaker of the house? how often in sort of a dream-a-vision for him would he like to be home? and how realistic is that? >> well, how often would he like to be home is probably about hoichb houchb he gets home now, which is pretty well every weekend. he lives in janesville, wisconsin. the days of members of congress for the most part bringing their kids to washington are kind of over. he wants his kids to grow up in his hometown. they are relatively young. i believe at this point they're
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10, 11 and 13. and the other thing is that he's somebody who lost his father at a young age so family is incredibly important. it's personal to him. but i think this is for the commentary on family as much as it is on our political system because, to answer the other part of your question, brooke, being house speaker means traveling a lot because they are expected to raise a ton of campaign cash for their colleagues. that is what he's talking about, not being out on the weekends, that's pretty much what he's talking about. it's not so much doing the job but doing the side job, which is raising money. >> so then, andrew, with the push/pull, and i'm sure you've dealt with this, i'm sure your wife deals with this, how do you prioritize and does that evolve as you -- i don't know -- age? >> you do the best you can. and it's true, when your kids are at a certain age it's crucial. my dad actually moved back -- my parents were divorced. my mom had to move because the gentleman she remarried, and he moved back into the house at a crucial time that absolutely
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changed my life. if he had said, you know, i have this big job and i have this big opportunity for my career and he hadn't done that, we would have suffered. so there are always trade-offs, but i find it interesting that he's brought his kids into it and family into it but still is say, i want the job. >> he's saying i want the job if you do x, y and z. >> right. if i can be home on demand -- >> right. then i'll begrudgingly take it. dan dana, i applaud congressman ryan for saying family is a priority. but when could you or a woman with kids say, i don't know if i can do this. my kids are my priority. i feel like that would not fly. am i wrong? >> reporter: it's tough. it's tough. you know, you know this. andrew knows this. i'm a big fan of his wife who is our colleague over at "good morning america". it is tough. this morning i wasn't there for the meeting because i had to take my son to zoom and i wanted to take my son to school.
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and i'm not the speaker of the house. you have other -- everybody who does a job outside the home has to have this balance. but i do think it is fascinating that especially in a time where you still have the majority of the leadership in both parties as men to have a man stand up and say this and not a woman. it's telling and i think maybe it opens the door for women to be able to do this. because i know for a fact that there are women who don't go the extra step, go for the higher job because they want to be with their family. but they don't say that out loud because it's hard erd for a woman to say that. >> final question to you. do you think it would open the door for women to have the power to say the same thing? >> i think so. i think hopefully one day the ceo job or the president or the vice president can say, you know what? there's this many hours for my work and this many hours or my family and i'm not budging. it's a start for the conversation. >> andrew shoou, thank you so much. my friend, dana bash, thank you as well. an importat conversation to have. i'm glad we did it.
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next, the syrian president makes a surprise visit to moscow. see this picture? this is russian president vladimir putin props up his regime with a barrage of air strikes. details on how this could chango the dynamic in the middle east. we'll be right back. (man) hmm. what do you think? ♪ (stranger) good mornin'! ♪ (store p.a.) attention shoppers, there's a lost couple in the men's department. (vo) there's a great big un-khaki world out there. explore it in a subaru crosstrek. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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let's go quickly to reno, nevada. jeb bush on the campaign trail taking questions. >> what democrats out there, i'm focused on mine. >> has it started? >> yeah, it has. very much. this is four years ago herman cain was the front-runner and two weeks prior to that was rick perry. both are great guys and didn't win the nomination. eight years ago it was rudy giuliani up by 30% of the vote. i don't think he got a delegate
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even though he's a great guy, too. eight years ago hillary clinton was up by 26 points over now-president barack obama. >> how important is nevada? >> february is important. new hampshire, iowa, nevada, south carolina set the stage for a huge chunk of delegates in march, and they all influence one after another. so we're well organized here. i think we have the best organization in te state. i'm proud to have great public support from people that are not just supporting my name but they're actually involved. >> thanks, everybody. >> you'll see more of me, absolutely. >> to your question, what does it mean for your prospect in the general, really quick? >> i'm looking forward to taking on the democratic nominee for sure. i watched that debate, and what i saw was a trickling down on failed economic policies and a foreign policy that looks like the one we have today, which has
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created chaos in parts of the world that we need order in. i'm excited about the prospects of winning the nomination and taking on whoever the democratic nominee is. >> thanks, everyone. >> we have a couple of events. grass roots event for the campaign and then we're going to do a town hall meeting with the lieber initiative, which will be a hispanic event which i'm looking forward to. [ speaking spanish ] >> so we jumped into that halfway obviously, taking questions. i can only assume the question is about how are you feeling because he's obviously not doing well and hasn't been polling wise. he was talking about how folks were polling four, eight years ago. clearly he says he's not deterred about how he's faring currently. next, vice president joe biden has officially announced just a little while ago he will not be running for president. reaction is coming in from both republicans, democrats.
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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. it was a meeting that really blindsided the world. here you are syrian president bashar al assad leaving his war-torn nation for the first time since 2011 and showing up in moscow. why did he do this? to say thank you, of course, a handshake. here's the photo between assad and vladimir putin. putin as you well know has been helping drop bombs on militant groups in syria, including moderate rebels sue portsed by the united states. i have david leash on the phone a professor of history at
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trinity university in san antonio. he also serves as a consultant to u.s. and european governments to the u.n. on the very issue. he has met with syrian president bashar al assad multiple times before 2009. he's also the author of "syria: the fall of the house of assad." david lesh, welcome back. i want to throw the picture back up of the handshake. i want all of us to look at this and i bant you want you to analyze the handshake and the body language. david, what do you see here? >> well, it's a political boon for both putin and assad. i mean, assad, he's an international pariah. he's been legitimized -- by most in the world and quite possibly he's meeting with the most popular and influential leader in the entire world. so just through osmosis putin is transferring rather awkwardly some legitimacy to assad. therefore assad seems more
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saitsman like. he's in control, which is important to his supporters who will be buoyed by this, but also to keep those syrians who don't particularly like assad but see him as the least worst alternative on board and still support the regime's efforts to maintain control. for putin, i mean, this is diplomatic center stage again. he's painted this picture that all roads lead to russia. just look at who's visited russia recently. you had leaders or leading officials from turkey, israel, saudi arabia, iran. they met with syrian opposition and now assad. so the image is only that he can meet with all the stakeholds of the conflict on all sides of the conflict and bring about a solution on his terms. easier said than done, though. >> how symbolic is it that it was assad who traveled to mos w moscow, came to vladimir putin? >> well, it is symbolic. one, that assad can leave the
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country, therefore, painting an image that he's able to do that but also from the point of view of putin, again, everyone is visiting him. and i think it underlines from the point of view of moscow that they are coordinating their military efforts with syria and with the syrian government and at the request of the syrian government and that they're not just simply going in on their own militarily. so it provides i think potent symbolism that russia is with assad. it ate not going to let him fall from power. the rest of the world needs to get on board with the idea that assad is part of the solution and not part of the problem. >> david lesch, let's talk again. thank you so much. >> thank you. it is official. biden watch over. vice president joe biden is not running for president. he made the highly anticipated announcement from the steps of the white house rose garden just earlier. we're getting all kinds of reaction both from republicans, democrats, this tweet from the presidential front-runner on the republican side, donald trump
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him sx. quote, i think joe biden made the correct decision for him and his family. personally i would rather run against hillary because her record is so bad. speaking of clinton, she issued this statement, quote, i am confident that history isn't finished with joe biden. as he said today, there is more work to do. and if i know joe, he will always be on the front lines. senator bernie sanders praig the vice president and said, he can make a difficult decision he can respect. joining mow now with really some fantastic reporting is our chief political analyst gloria borger. so gloria, you got great stuff from your source close to biden and specifically these two things that happened, right, in recent weeks that sort of led to the decision from the vice president. >> well, i think as this source said to me that memorable appearance on the colbert report or the new colbert -- >> the late show. >> the late show. sorry. when he kind of beared his soul
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about his son's death was such an emotional thing that it was kind of hard to pivot back from that into a run. but he did ask his staff to do due diligence, lay it all out asked senior advisers to call potential staffers, which they did, present him with all of the information. this source said to me that one of the final things in his decision process was on monday when congressman jim clyburn of south carolina came out and he said that he should not get in the race and advised biden publicly not to get in the race, telling that to the huffington post. and biden is very close to clyburn, would have needed south carolina, respects him. and i think that also put a damper on it. but in the end, the timetable wasn't there, his legacy was at risk being a three-time presidential loser, if you will.
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and i think that he just made the decision that he was too pragmatic to mount something so quick sod ick, really. >> how does his decision affect all of the variables here moving forward, bigger picture? >> well, you know, you look at hillary clinton's polling, her polling goes up 11 points when biden isn't in the race. so this is really good for hillary clinton. i would argue. and i think what you'll see from joe biden, i mean, today what he gave was an announcement speech without a candidacy, right? i mean, he talked about all the issues he wants to fight on, the president's legacy. he wants to extend it. he talked about finding a cure for cancer, saving the middle class, everything else. >> right. >> so i think you're going to see biden not go quietly into that good night. joe biden is going to continue to talk. >> he says he won't be silent. >> you can be sure of that, brooke. >> gloria, thank you so much. >> thanks. coming up next, pregnant
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women get a definitive no on whether it's okay to have a glass of wine. i know, i know, everyone hears differently. we have new details on the guidelines that are at odds with what a lot of ladies hear from their own doctors. plus this. >> great scott! if my calculations are correct, it is now precisely october 21, 2015. the future has finally arrived. >> it is "back to the future" day, and one of the original cast members joins me liv. grabbing your data. stealing your customers' secrets. there's an army of us. relentlessly unpicking your patchwork of security. think you'll spot us? ♪ you haven't so far.
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a lot of times doctors tell women there is no harm in having an occasional glass of wine while you're pregnant. not anymore. expectant mothers are now being told not a single drop, not even a little alcohol during pregnancy. elizabeth cohen has the new details. >> the american academy of pediatrics now says don't drink when you're pregnant ever at all. studies on alcohol and pregnancy have gone back and forth. while most have shown that it's dangerous, some have shown that moderate drinking isn't dangerous, moderate meaning between three and seven drinks a week. not everyone is quite as strict as experts in the united states. for example, in the united kingdom, the government says don't drink while you're pregnant, but if you are going to drink to minimize the risks, just have one or two drinks a week. babies born to women who drink during pregnancy have all sorts of problems, including issues
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with their heart, with their kidneys, with their vision, with their hearing, also the children are more likely to grow up to have cognitive problems like attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder. it's not known exactly why alcohol has a bad effect on the fetus, but they have found that alcohol crosses the placenta, and that means that your baby's small developing liver is having to deal with alcohol. it's also known that babies who are born to mothers who drink during pregnancy have a smaller certi seer bell um, the part of the brain that affects balance and mobility. it can impair blood flow to the fetus, which mean it's not getting enough oxygen or nutrients. one study found that even when mom drank one drink a day, her child was more likely to be born small. experts safe even if moderate drinking might be safe for some babies, you don't know what effect it's going to have on your baby. that's why the best advice is just not to drink at all if you're pregnant.
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>> elizabeth cohen joins me live. many are thinking, what? my doctor said i was okay. what are the effects of alcohol on a fetus? >> you know, there are several effects, brooke. for example, the cerebellum, the part of the brain that regulates motor activity, that part of the brain is smaller on babies whose mom drank during pregnancy. in addition, the liver. a baby's liver has to process this alcohol. that liver is not as well developed as your liver. so there are several other things that are going on here. alcohol crosses >> elizabeth cohen, thank you. coming up next, the wait is over. it is "back to the future" day. i'll speak live with the man, the would-be mayor of hill valley right now if only all those predictions came true.
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i know you know the deal. today is not just another day. it is "back to the future" day. >> where are we? when are we? >> we're descending toward hill valley, california on wednesday october 21st, 2015. >> 2015? >> can you imagine that crazy date way out in the future? 2015? the future is here. and on this day we are celebrating all things "back to the future." and to help us do that here is a clip from the celebrated time travel classic. >> say, why do you let those boys push you around like that for? >> well, they're bigger than me. >> stand tall, boy. have some respect for yourself. don't you know if you let people walk over you now they'll be walking over you for the rest of your life. look at me, you think i'm going to spend the rest of my life in this slop house? >> watch it, goldie. >> no, sir.
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i'm going tonight school and one day i'm going to be somebody. >> that's right. he's going to be mayor. >> yeah, i'm going to -- man, now that's a good idea. i could run for mayor. >> a colored mayor, that will be the day. >> you wait and see, i will be mayor. i'll be the most powerful man in hill valley and i'm going to clean up this town. >> good, you can start by sweeping the floor. >> mayor goldie wilson. i like the sound of that. >> oh, my goodness, he still remembers every single word. he is don full of love and he is joining me now. you are sitting there reciting every word. >> well, it's fun. i just like to see it up there was like getting a chance to reminisce on this special day. >> it was like yesterday. now we're in the future. did you have any idea way back in 1985, you know, all these predictions of what this day in the future would be, did you think all those ideas were
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totally wild and farfetched? >> some of them, yeah. but a lot of them i kind of figured -- >> like what? >> i knew cell phones were going to be a big thing. i just had that feeling. so i knew that was going to happen. but as far as flat screen tvs, i happened to have gone to school for electronics back then so i knew that was in the wave of the future. >> the cubs maybe being in the series. >> i was going to say that. now that's way out. it's kind of sketchy right now, but that still would be way out. >> i had no idea i was reading this variety article on "back to the future" and said michael j. foxx was not the original marty mcfly you knew originally cast for eric schultz who shot five weeks worth of the film. you shot your scenes with him. >> my whole thing was with eric. in fact, "back to the future" with me was with eric stults as mar ty mcfly. i shot four weeks. i'd been done, finished, paid, gone home. and i think it was like right after christmas 1984 i got a call from bob gayil's office an
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say would you like to do it again? huh? we have michael j. fox. i knew they were trying to get him earlier, didn't work out, blah, blah, blah. >> family ties, busy schedule. >> right. of course. so i got a chance to do it with him and here we are 30 years later. >> i also read, i'm so nerding out on your film, but that initially when they were shopping the film around a lot of places said it was too tame take it to disney, disney said i don't know because of the whole, you know, mom, son. >> they were the exact opposite because of the whole little, you know, i guess like complex type thing. >> i guess so. >> but as history has proven these studios are wrong, this studio was wrong, but that one studio was totally right. >> that's all it took. did you have any idea when you were in the middle of this magic it would have such tremendous staying power? >> i had no clue. >> you didn't.
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>> i know steven spielberg was involved. and of course being a steven spielberg project you would think it's going to do something. so i fully expected it to do well. i didn't expect this at all. >> can you just tell me one story onset just being part of this incredible film? >>. >> i think the most incredible thing for me as an artist was to see how the production staff went into just so much detail. i mean, everything was just so detailed for something that wasn't really real. and that kind of impressed me from having done tv and stuff like that where it's like get it out, get it out, get it out. these guys were really telling a story. and if i look back on it now. >> yeah. >> i can see like why we're here today. >> yeah. >> it made a lot of sense. thera they were future thinking. >> have you kept up with writers, crew, actors through the years? >> i have a lot of friendships with various people who were involved in the production because it's such an industry
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places and stuff like that and doing things. and then of course there's teen fox always doing something and things for michael j. fox's foundation for parkinsons. in essence it's the gift that keeps on giving but it's the gift you have to give from as well. >> in the 45 seconds i have remaining, tonight is a big night. >> right. >> you all are getting together. i don't know if it's a full-on red carpet thing. i imagine it probably is, for the big screening. >> right. >> what are you most excited about? >> i'm most excited about it being the day that bob gayle and bob -- envisioned in the future that marty mcfly went to. tomorrow the future is the past. >> one prediction 2045 what should we expect? >> someone in goldie wilson's family will be president. before we get out of here. >> what do you have? >> i have something for you. re-elect mayor goldie wilson.
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thank you so much. such a pleasure. >> thank you. >> "back to the future" that does it for me i'll be back at 10:00 eastern cnn tonight. meantime "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. vice president joe biden says he missed his window. does anyone out there have a time traveling dolorian? i'm jake tapper and this is "the lead." the politics lead, third time will not be a charm. joe biden says his family got there, he got there but at the end of the day just could not see a path to the presidential nomination. but that does not necessarily mean he will stop speaking and perhaps even continue to southerly dig at hillary clinton. also in politics, more huge news for donald trump way beyond his biggest lead in the polls in weeks. the surprising number of republican voters who now believe he will be their nominee. and the money lead, we do not have flying cars yet, but we could still have the cubs in the werld series.