weather center, thank you. remember, you can follow us on twitter. you can tweet me or the show at cnn sit room. join us monday in the situation room. wolf will be black. thanks so much for watching. i'm brianna keilar. "erin burnett out front" starts right now. breaking news. donald trump and hillary clinton speaking live tonight. dueling events. miles apart as a war of words between trump and jeb bush erepresents over 9/11. and we dug into the details of the campaign spending who is spending money on hotels? and live from las vegas, more on lamar odom. let's go "out front." and good friday evening to all. we begin with the breaking news, donald trump about to speak at a

campaign event in massachusetts. he's less than ten miles away from where hillary clinton just wrapped up her campaign event. trump taking aim at clinton all week. she might be a big target tonight as he takes the stage, but she won't be the only one. all eyes also on how trump will address the controversy getting the buzz today. it all started when donald trump was asked if he could lead the nation in times of crisis like president bush and obama and here's how he answered that question. >> when you talk about george bush, i mean, say what you want. the world trade center came down during his time. if -- >> hold on. you can't blame george bush for that. >> well, he was president, okay. he was president. the world trade center came down during his reign. >> jeb bush replied on twitter, how pathetic for trump to blame the president for 9/11. we were attacked, my brother kept us safe.

and we know donald trump is behind stage. m.j., trump is expected to be there any second. are you expecting him to respond to the criticism about those 9/11 comments? >> well, erin, so far the trump campaign has not commented on trump's remarks that have drawn quite a bit of backlash. i'm in the jazz naz yum in the local high school and he'll take the stage in a few minutes. we know that the campaign is not commenting and we found out that trump will not be gagling with reporters or holding a press conference. so there's not many opportunities to ask for a comment on this. i will tell you, you know, you mentioned that we are very close to where hillary clinton is campaigning tonight. if you actually drive some 15, 20 minutes north, we would be in

new hampshire where hillary clinton is. so a bit of a duel of the two campaigns tonight. >> what is the mood there? obviously they're playing the music. how would you describe the mood and the attendance? >> well, there was a very long line that formed starting this afternoon. you can see behind me the gymnasium i can tell you is filled to capacity as is the overflow room nearby. people are very excited to see donald trump. he has been the front-runner now for more than three months. to see him in person, see the big celebrity they're used to seeing on tv. i will tell you, you know, why the state of massachusetts, which is typically a very blue state, of course i mentioned that the state -- or this town where trump is coming to is right on the new hampshire border. so this is a way for trump to essentially campaign in new hampshire. get some new hampshire media coverage. he will be going after some of his rivals like jeb bush and hillary clinton. >> all right. m.j., thank you very much.

we'll check back in with m.j. as donald trump takes that stage. we'll be listening to see whether he does address the issues. hillary clinton as m.j. referred to hosted a town mall, meeting with new hampshire voters. this is her leading bernie sanders in the ski state. recent polls have her lagging sanders by double digits in new hampshire. how confident is her campaign that this poll has herb on top? >> they're clearly happy tonight. but as they have with other polls also understand that this is one poll, months before the primary. so didn't expect them to take any victory laps in new hampshire yet. that said, clinton is very clearly, very happy with this week. she had a good debate performance. she goes out of her way all of her events, both events here in new hampshire bringing up the debate performance. she had a very good night.

she's clearly hitting the campaign trail this week with a renew vigor. she has a spark we haven't seen in quite some time. that said, the poll numbers are very, very important for her. it was last month she was 16 points behind bernie sanders here in new hampshire so clearly this is very good numbers here in new hampshire for clinton. >> and she has been making donald trump a frequent target in her interviews, going after him directly. she even did it today in the interview with jake tapper. let's listen. >> i have called him out on some of the things he has said, which were uncalled for. the insults on immigrants and women. it is just unacceptable. you know, what he said about the president. so you know, i'm going to continue to criticize him for going beyond the bounds of anyone that's appropriate for anyone running for president. >> you have been covering her, covering this campaign. that's farther than she has gone in really criticizing donald trump. >> that's right.

you know, from the start, clinton has been very clear what her focus in is in this campaign. she's focused on republicans. this is an argument if she becomes the nominee go into the general election lumping a lot of republican together with donald trump. one of her campaign lines here that she says in her stump speech that gets a good reaction is saying all of the republicans running for the nomination, their policies are just like donald trump just without the pizazz and the hair. that gets great applause. that said it's interesting this week to see clinton really try to make these policy distinctions and contrast herself with bernie sanders. it shows they're worried about his rise recently. she's drawn a contrast with him this week about guns. rate legal hitting hill -- really hitting him hard after the debate performance. this is a line we continue to see in the days ahead. >> thank you very much.

we're awaiting donald trump and we'll anticipate that starting any minute. while we're waiting i want to go to our political commentators, s.e. cupp and hillary rosen and andy dean. good to have all of you with me. i appreciate it. let's talk about the day's big controversy. it wasn't between hillary clinton and donald trump, but between donald trump and jeb bush. george w. bush was president during 9/11. you have to use the word implying, but he was saying george w. bush was responsible. jeb bush called trump pathetic. what do you say, s.e.? >> pathetic is apt. whether you leave the answer hanging as trump did, or not or you fill it in explicitly like other truthers have, i think the suggestion that somehow george w. bush was to blame or is responsible for a horrific tragedy, one that i think -- you know, i lived through in

manhattan is really, really offensive and kind of cheap. especially if you're not going to go on to explain what you mean by that or offer up specific policy proposals, for example, that, you know, you would implement as president. to thwart future attacks like that. just to sort of drop that and then move on i think is really kind of shameful. >> andy? >> well, speaking of shameful, i think what s.e. cupp is doing is shameful by comparing donald trump to a truther that are psychotic lunatics. he did so such thing. he kind of shrugged his shoulders, then he moved to a different topic. >> that's epically courageous what he did, andy. >> okay. well -- you're not making any sense right now. the point is this. that bill clinton was the one

who back in 1998 had a chance to kill osama bin laden to do it and who deserves more blame, the answer is bill clinton. >> hillary? >> you know, this is part of donald trump's problem. the rules don't apply to donald trump but his problem is that he doesn't seem to really care about this country the way he talks about caring. you know, the most poignant moment for me after those 9/11 attacks were when al gore, you know, went out and said, george bush is my president. like the country came together. that was a really important moment. people weren't about blaming george bush. now, me and a lot of other people didn't like how he ended up responding to the attack, we didn't like the inhavevasion inq and other things but he didn't deserve the blame for the attack in the first place and trump's cavalier way he talks about events in this country it's of offensive. >> please stay with me. we'll squeeze in a brief commercial break and then we'll

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all right. live picture of the podium in massachusetts where donald trump is addressing the supports. we know he's behind statement. we'll take his comments, s.e. cupp and hillary rosen with me and former president of trump productions, andy dean. we're talking about the controversy over the 9/11 comment, andy, in which trump

clearly implied george w. bush was to blame for the attacks. is he going to comment on that when he takes the stage tonight? he's chosen not to take press availability tonight, unclear as to why. do you think he will address this issue on stage? >> erin, to begin with was a false question because you said, you know, we can rewatch the tape here that donald trump employed that george bush was responsible for 9/11. what he did say is that it happened under george w. bush's watch. that's a fact no one is disputing but he didn't blame bush. i think this is a slow news cycle day and they're trying to damage the front-runner. it's not that exciting for people to watch. >> you're questioning the sound bite, i want to play it. the question that had been asked of donald trump, how he would lead during the crisis, a crisis of the likes of which barack obama and george w. bush had gone through. that was the question. here's how donald trump answered it.

>> when you talk about george bush i mean say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. if you look -- >> hold on. you can't blame george bush for that. >> well, he was president, okay? don't blame him or don't blame him, but he was president. the world trade center came down during his reign. >> s.e., he didn't directly say it. it was an implication though. >> no, he had an opportunity when the interviewer said, well, wait, you can't blame george bush. he had an opportunity to say i'm not blaming him. i'm simply stating the fact or then go ahead and offer up policy proposals which he routinely is very short on. he was given ample opportunity to clarify what he meant when he waded into that very -- you know, unfriendly territory. and he didn't take it. he left it purposefully hanging. so that the implication was that he was to blame. i think that's just incredibly irresponsible. and also, meaningless. if you're going to say something that controversial, i think you

are obligated to attach it to some kind of policy proposal. and he did not. >> andy, let me give you a chance to respond to that. she points out something that i think is part of a broader point. he does say controversial things by not actually saying them. with the muslim questioner, it was that he chose not to correct. maybe he didn't hear the question, but then you have something like this. right? it is something that's happened time and time again. >> well, a couple things. first to 9/11. donald trump loves new york city. if you look at the skyline, there are a ton of buildings with his name on it. so he loves america, he loves new york city. as to why he doesn't give the perfectly politically correct answer to satisfy s.e. cupp and political pundits, i don't know the answer to that. but i just -- the idea that we're going to parse four seconds of a 45 minute interview to defame donald trump about 9/11 seems silly. back to -- go ahead. >> the point -- the point that stephanie was getting at -- >> that was the interviewer.

>> what kind of leader will you be? when the country is in crisis, what are you going to do? instead of really talking about how he would handle things, how he sees crisis as a leader. how important it is to lead the country, what he does is go to his familiar place. which is go snark about somebody else and put somebody else down. and, you know, this case is particularly hot button because it's 9/11. a lot of strong feelings and a lot of terrible things happened. but i think it's very emblematic of what trump does -- >> hillary, look, the american -- -- >> to be a leader. he's the schoolyard kid who says nana-nana. >> we get your point. >> it's silly and immature. >> go ahead, an city. >> okay. hillary, okay. to your point about donald trump not saying the politically correct thing, we get it. but you're wrong because the american people have been listening to these issues and watching two debates and they see donald trump as a leader. this is a guy who has a lifetime

record of creating tens of thousands of jobs and this guy is a leader on foreign policy. he's outlined that he's going to destroy isis. a couple of seconds of crazy talk in which you parse his words, it's just not accurate. it's just not representative of what the men people -- american people care about. >> this is getting a lot of discussion and buzz online. this is what the conversation about. but andy has a good point, which is that this often benefits donald trump, right? there's a controversy and a lot of people see it as he's just telling the truth or he was misunderstood and it ends up being good for donald trump. >> i have never denied that. i mean, you know, as hillary mentioned donald trump defys the laws of gravity and physics when it comes to the moments when he says something indefensible and yet receives a bump in the polls. thanks i'm sure to folks like andy dean completely defending indefensible things. it is not courageous, you know,

courageously standing to thwart political correctness to suggest that the president of the united states was responsible for a terrorist attack. that has nothing to do with political correctness and defending and justifying everything that comes out of donald trump's mouth as standing to thwart political correctness is intellectually dishonest. i think using the justification that really doesn't belong there. i mean, this is not -- this is not political correctness that we're talking about. this is smearing the president of the united states. >> but hillary, there's this particular quote, but the broader point here is that the perception among voters is that he says it like it is. it is others whether it be the media or others who take him out of context. we anticipate him he'll come out any moment. so if i interrupt you that's why. but that is what has benefited donald trump. the people see him as a truth teller. he is authentic. >> i think that's right. and i think that that says something terrible about the political system that people are so unerred to actual leadership

and politicians have so ruined politics in a way that somebody like donald trump is, you know, heralded. >> and he is -- >> in an indirect way -- hillary's indirect way of calling the american people stupid. >> no. >> to say that trump is popular, people are stupid. >> well, donald trump is not a politician, so hillary, maybe you should vote for him. >> my point. >> okay. good, maybe you'll vote for him. >> let's listen in to donald trump for a moment. all of you please stand by. i want to get your comments as we go through. let's listen to him for a moment. >> amazing, really amazing. i want to thank you all. it's great to be here. we had some big news today. a lot of good news. first of all, you know hillary was right down the street. [ crowd boos ] >> she had -- listen to this. would you say -- would you say we have 4,000 people at least tonight?

at least. so we have two rooms like this full, we have at least i guess 2,000 people outside. and hillary had 250 people. that's not good. that's not good. well, i'll tell you what. i love the area, i love -- i love massachusetts. i love -- [ cheers and applause ] why do they always say that a republican can't win massachusetts? i think we can. you know why? i think that the democrats are so sick and tired of watching our country lose that they're going to vote for the republican if this is the one. i really believe that. and we love, love, love new hampshire. we love it. you know, -- so about ten

minutes ago they gave me some result. somebody said you really like polls. i like them because i'm winning. you know when you're not winning you don't like them as much. but we're really winning. we're winning everything. everything. every state. we're winning everything. we're winning everything. so this just came in. reuters, 33 for trump. 33%. remember what that means. 15 people in addition to myself. we have 16. if you get 33, somebody said, oh, i think he's peaked. i think he's peaked. they constantly say it, he's peaked! i hear this every week. you know, we go up up up. then we go down one point, it's like -- it's like we're on the "titanic." oh, it's unbelievable. three weeks ago we went down a point, it was like oh, it's over. then we went up two points, they don't report that. then we went up five points so

here it comes out, reuters, good reuters, good, professional, good, right? oh, jeremy, i wish you'd tell the truth. cnn, cnn. all right. what are you going to do? what are you going to do? you know i told him last time it was very interesting. we were -- such a great success. it was so great. you saw it. three nights ago. we had 8,000 people maybe. there were eight demonstrators. no, it was true. you say saw it thor oh night. eight demonstrators. and they started, you know, shouting a little bit. they were gone very quickly. and, you know, it's freedom of speech, you can do it. i said to the people -- 8,000 people. and i said, here's the bad part. they'll be the story. i thought i could talk the press out of it by saying that. next day, demonstration, at trump -- i'm telling you we had eight people. and two of them asked for my autograph when i was going out. no, it's true!

these were not violent demonstrators. these were nice people. but anyway. so reuters comes out, we're 33. carson's at 15 in second place. think of it. that's a big difference. that's a big difference. then you have other people. actually carly is which down. she went way down. rubio is way lower. way lower. but if he goes up two points, rubio surges! no, i had it in florida. you know we're winning florida. can you believe it? i love florida. so we're winning florida. and they had a poll and i was 29 and they were -- your governor and your sitting senator, they were like 11 and 14 or 15. and one of them went up a little bit. and they talked about bush and rubio headline doing better.

and i said, oh, that's too bad. i must be way down. i get to paragraph three, it said mr. trump is at 29. they're at 11 and something. but that's the dishonesty of the press. you have no idea how dishonest these people are. you have no idea. no, you have no idea. it's brutal. it's brutal. you get -- actually, it's so d bad, it's so bad last night i watched megyn kelly. i haven't watched her in a long time. and you had these two clowns on. one stier walt and the other one is a speechwriter for george bush. how can you be a speechwriter for george bush? i mean, i like george bush. he's a nice man but i don't necessarily want to write speeches for him. so he's saying -- he actually said, something to the effect that, yeah, carson's tied or

winning on all -- and it's not even close. and you can't do anything. except one thing i can do. actually said that carson -- who's a nice guy. by way he's a guy guy. he really is. but they actually said that carson is tied or winning in all the polls. i'm saying, -- you know, on my twitter, i had people that went crazy. that it's a total lie, mr. trump. it -- they wanted a revolution. and it is a total lie. but they have the two puppets that work for her and they say these things and it's incredible. so here's the polls. in new jersey, now, remember reuters is national. 33. here's the state of new jersey, great place, i love new jersey. got some problems. to be honest. it's got some problems. trump, 32. second place, 13. okay. then i hear that like i'm tied. i'm not tied.

we're killing everybody. actually -- [ applause ] it's true. it's true. it's true. peggy noonan has been great. i think she's fantastic. she's a great writer. that's only because for the last three weeks she's written great. but tomorrow she writes a story in which i saw tonight and she talks about we're levelled out. and i think it -- oh, a terrible story. can you imagine being levelled out is a bad story. you know what levelled out means? it means i haven't gone up in the last couple of weeks. it's hard to go when you're at 33, 32, 35. inside the story, she said he had a great week with the polls. i say, how can i say levelled out? maybe it was a bad guy who wrote the headline. i said, well, wait, how are we levelled out? then they talked about nevada. where i'm up at 38% and win the hispanics. can you believe it? and peggy -- and remember i like

her a lot. i think she's great. and then she said, great week but the title was not so good. and then -- so she said, nevada great week. at south carolina, 36. and then in connecticut, which just came out. that's quinnipiac. great pollster. i'm at 34 to 14. she puts these in. i'm saying, how did i level out? it's the press. and then oh, and then a romney person -- you know we all like romney, right? but he should have won. give me a break. i supported him. i supported mccain. i supported these people. and this time i said you know what, did you ever have it you're with your wife or your husband and you're really competent. and you're tired of seeing things done wrong. and you think, this time i'm going to do it myself? do you understand that? [ applause ] i mean, we should have won that

last election. we should have won. but, you know, he doesn't like me too much. i backed him and everything else. but i was so upset that he lost an election that should have been won. so they have romney's guy going on his -- his manager is selling a book. the guy is incompetent. then you have somebody else. you have his pollster, or a person who -- he's the one that gave them the idea. he said i think he's flattened out. and because of that i end up with a headline. even though they're copying the other polls. listen, so you have 33 to 15 national. you have 32 to 13. you have 38 to like 11 in nevada. south carolina, a great place. by the way, they're back. they have -- they have weathered that unbelievable flood. [ cheers and applause ] they have weathered that flood. they actually asked if i'd do a commercial for them, can you believe it? south carolina and charleston. they said would you do a commercial?

i said, i get a million dollars but for you i'll do it for you for free. we sent it, they're great people. by the way, south carolina we're doing so great. 36% to like -- i won't mention what's second because it's embarrassing. and then you have -- then you listen to these television shows where you're like tied. so all lies, all lies. i made a commercial for them. they're unbelievable. what they went through and they're back. you know, they're back. they're great people. hard working and incredible people. so i've gotten to know so many. did you ever hear of a state new hampshire, right? how about this one. trump 32, second place, 13. [ cheers and applause ] now, if the second place -- i won't use the name, but if the -- and a nice person by the way. i don't dislike all of these people.

although i usually do dislike my enemies. when you're competing you want to sort of win. but second place is nice, butthe second place went from 10 to 13 and even though i'm 32 in new hampshire, they'll say whoever it is is surging. it's amazing. just very dishonest. then quinnipiac, connecticut, we went over 34. this is sort of emblematic of everything. this came out in the polls. and it's done by cnn whose cameras all lit up back there. every time i make a speech, they have me on live television, it's terrible. i said to my people -- i don't want to do live television every time. then if you repeat the story, it's like oh, he said that. three nights ago. you know, these other people like hillary, she goes around, e has 250 people down the road in keane where by the way, last two weeks ago we had 4,000 people in keane. right? 4,000. forget about here. we have 4,000 in keane, the same

area. but it's sort of amazing, isn't it? but you know what's so important right here, they go over the different categories, how does he win? this one is nevada. but it was also the same thing, pretty much the same numbers. it was really amazing numbers. same numbers in south carolina. done by cnn a couple of days ago. in fact, cnn said your numbers are unbelievable. i said, i can't it. so they have -- who going to be your first choice, who's going to win for president? trump, 38%. pretty good. then they have one that's slightly important. it's called who's going to be best for the economy? do you agree, that's important? we have to get all the young people -- we have to get them working. right? like him, like him. like her. we have to get them working, right? got to have jobs when they're ready. so on the economy, listen to this one.

trump is 67. [ cheers and applause ] when i say 67, i mean, 67%. that's big. how do you have 67% when you have 16 people, right? you know, 67% would be amazing if you like me and somebody else, do you agree with that? that's a called a landslide. there's no such thing. it's true. but how do you have 67% -- 67 out of 100? how do you have 67% when you have 16 people running? it's very hard. i mean, you have to be good. in fact, it's great for my ego. remember the expression it's the economy, stupid, then the election is over. they all say how important. well, nothing more important. look, defense is more important to me. defense is -- and i do great on defense. [ cheers and applause ] >> you're listening to donald trump here. we'll keep monitoring this. look, you have heard angry at

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you're looking at donald trump live. he is addressing the crowd in an elementary school in massachusetts. he is talking about his polls, talking about his rivals. we'll bring in you live as we hear parts you should hear. he's sworn off a traditional campaign in every way and fund-raising is one of the twwa. still millions have come in in unsolicited donation and he's spending it in unexpected ways. joe johns has tonight's "money and power." >> i put together some really impressive deals but what you have pulled off is a big thing. >> reporter: donald trump did this ad for mcdonald's more than a decade ago.

but little has changed. this summer trump forking over $458 on burgers and fries at the golden arches. 723,000 on jets and helicopters he already owns. and all this quarter, trump spent $4.2 million. he did not solicit any donations, but about 74,000 people gave him $3.9 million in donations anyway. even though he spent more than he brought in, it doesn't matter. he can close that deficit when he wants. dropping millions into the own campaign, but rivals are not lucky. many in the huge field of gop field of candidates struggling to raise money and spending it line crazy. according to newly released documents, jeb bush raised $13.4 million in the last quarter. and as we discovered his campaign spending $26,000 at the luxury built more hotel, but also staying at holiday inns,

running up a mere $8,200. the one who raised the most -- ben carson up. carson's total was almost $21 million. he spent about $14 million. one of his biggest expenses -- $1.4 million on fund-raising calls. calls that some gop candidates can't afford to make. five of the republican candidates did not even raise that much cash in total. so the remaining gop candidates might want to take a page from the trump checkbook. besides the speed with which some of the candidates are burning through the money they raise which can influence how much more money their wealthiest donors can give them, the amount of cash they have on hand tells you something about the financial health of their campaigns. the records show kentucky senator rand paul and new jersey governor chris christie both had less than $2 million on hand at the end of the reporting period. that's not good news for them. erin? >> certainly doesn't sound that way. joe johns, thank you. let's go to david gurgen and ron

brownstein. what you see is a continued lack of convention with the trump campaign, right? but what's interesting here is that he got all this money from other people. and he's still spending it, right? he puts in his own money as he has to. spends the unsolicited donations first that's what a business person would do. that's what he's doing. are we finding things out here, nearly $1 million on flights and of course that mcdonald's tab. >> all right. there are so many -- so many unconventional things happening in this campaign. you know, if you look at donald trump first of all, as he himself pointed out, you -- he doesn't have to spend an awful lot on media because he's getting lots of coverage from the national media and secondly,

you have outsider candidates like ben carson rising more money than jeb bush, but find themselves struggling in the kind of nuts and bolts financing for the formal campaign apparatus. >> yeah. >> a lot of the traditional verities of how financial power is allocated and how it affects this race, they are being up ended in the early stages of this 2016 race. no question about it. >> you know, david, another thing donald trump is not doing with his money. not spending it on polls. contrast that with hillary clinton, right? he likes to make that contrast all the time. in general. but on this issue specifically, she's spent $1.1 million when we went through since the beginning of the campaign and donald trump hasn't spent a dollar. that adds to the perception that he's genuine, says what thehe thinks and she's spending money on polls to find out what people

want her to say. >> donald trump was asked, do you do focus groups and he said yeah, i do focus groups. right up here in my head. i figure out the zeitgeist of -- the spirit of the country through the personal experiences. i think that's giving him this extra sort of -- it's some people would say wackiness, but made him a more magnetic personality because he's out there doing it almost on his own. whereas hillary historically has run sort of a hillary inc. campaign. so she has a huge organization. and she's raising money rapidly. after this debate this week she'll raise a lot more money. i don't think she's in danger the way that jeb bush is. but it runs the danger that she'll be seen as highly scripted, highly produced, highly manufactured as opposed to sort of the lone warrior of a trump. >> all right. thanks very much to both of you. and next, we have shocking new video that we want to show you tonight. a michigan teen pulled over for

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tonight calls for justice after an officer shot and killed a teen during a routine traffic stop. it all started when 17-year-old devin gillford was pulled over for flashing his high beams. tonight for the first time, we are seeing shocking new video of what happened next. >> driver's license and insurance please. >> watch this body camera video, 17-year-old devin gillford on his way to his girlfriend's house back in february. sergeant jonathan frost pulling him over for flashing his high

beams. >> driver's license, registration, proof of insurance. i did not have them on. driver's license's registration, proof of insurance, please. >> i don't even know you're an officer. >> reporter: sergeant frost asked seven times for his license and every time the teen refuses. questioning why he was stopped. >> why am i being detained? >> yes, you are. >> for what crime? >> you flashed me with your high beams. >> reporter: gillford begins recording the interaction on the cell phone and continues not to cooperate. you can start to comply with in traffic stop or you're going to be taken to jail. >> reporter: the officer calls for backup. two times. as the situation escalates, backup doesn't come. >> you do not have your driver's license on your person? correct? >> yes, i do. >> where is it? do you realize if you had complied with the traffic stop it would have gone a whole different way for you. >> reporter: the officer sees gillford tries to make a phone call and orders him out of the car. >> out of the car or you're getting tased.

everything is being recorded. i have no problem with that. get out of the car. on the ground, now. down on the ground! now. >> stop yelling at me. >> down on the ground. right here. facing me. down on the ground. now. >> what do you mean? >> get on your belly right now. >> this is to your side now. >> sergeant frost kicks gill ford's cell phone away. >> i don't have a weapon. >> hey! >> you can't do that. >> son, get your hands behind your back. you're under arrest. >> just about 90 secs before backup arrives, sergeant frost tazes gill ford but too close for it to work properly. roughly 14 seconds later, gunshots. [ gunshots ]. >> sergeant frost says gillford attacked him hitting him repeatedly with his fist. look at the slow mo frame by

frame you can make the scuffle out more clearly. >> i shot one. priority backup. send ems, i'm bleeding. >> this captures sergeant frost at the scene transported to the hospital with these injuries. >> looks like a small abrasion to the back of the head. >> gilford's family says the traffic stop was illegal. >> they are outraged. they are just, it boggles their minds how the kid could be stopped for flashing his lights and be dead five minutes later. >> but prosecutors site the michigan safe driving manuel which states, it is illegal to use or even flash high beam headlights within 500 feet of an oncoming vehicle. the officer cleared of all wrongdoing, the prosecutor concluding frost was acting in self-defense, he reasonably believed he would die or have serious bodily injury. among sited evidence, damage to

the body camera was all over the area and the medical examiner's finding gilford's wounds were from the front, the trajectory they were at a struggle. the family filing a federal and civil lawsuit saying the officer used excessive force, violated their son's constitutional rights and wrongfully caused his death, erin. >> thank you very much. paul, obviously, the officer was injured. there is no question about that. but it's a teenager, kid was clearly unarmed, maybe he was being a complete jerk and resisting but shot miultiple times and killed. justified? >> a 17-year-old kid, high school kid, i guess, to think he would wind up dead after a routine stop is shocking. you know something? i think i understand why the prosecutor did not charge the cop. the cop had grounds to make the stop. he had flashed his headlights in an improper way. when he asks for the license,

there is a refusal. he has multiple refusals. the cop has the right to ask him to get out of the vehicle. there is a supreme court, pennsylvania versus mims that says police have the right to do that. he then tells him to get on the ground. the first thing i looked at, was this justified. he ends up kicking the cell phone away. justifiable the police will say because if he had the cell phone in his hand, he could throw it at the cop -- >> use it as a weapon. >> remember, he's being arrested. next we don't know what happens, of course, because now the camera is up and down and the cop says he attacked me, he jumped me, he tried to take my weapon. that justifies the use of force, deadly force. >> all right. paul thank you very much and next, an idea that's coming back from the future. are self-lacing sneakers the next best thing.

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he finds self-lacing sneakers. a few days left. will they be here in realtime? that's this week's big idea. simply put, this movie nailed it. the 1989 hit "back to the future 2" predicted 2015 with flat screen tvs, 3 d movies and the cubs winning the world series. >> cub win world series. >> well, maybe. but one idea from the future hasn't arrived, at least not yet. that's the self-lacing shoe. >> power laces, all right. >> my memories from watching the film, i remember the flying car and i don't have the flying car so i want the nike mag. >> their idea for the real thing, the future of sneakers could be days away. matt writes about sneakers. >> the way it works, one pushes a button on the side of the shoe that will activate a motor that

then wraps around the foot with four straps and tightens across the midsection of the foot. >> a far cry from how the original worked. >> in the movie, they had cables that ran down michael j. fox' pants and a huge gigantic battery pack he wore at his waist. >> rumors flied when nike applied for a patent for automatically lacing shoes. 1500 prototypes were made and sold for charity raising millions for fox' foundation for pa parkinson's research. time is running out to meet the movie's deadline. marty mcfly went back to the future on october 21st, 2015. that's wednesday. >> 2015? >> i really think there's a good chance nike is not going to pass on this day to do something special for "back to the future". >> nike is playing coy saying

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