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as you mentioned, the police chief says all the investigative material they gathered is being single to the prosecutors and co-face criminal charges. >> all of that happening this evening. ed, thank you so much. and thank you for joining us. "ac360" starts now. good evening. a lot of firsts including hillary clinton agreeing to give the justice department her private e-mail server, trying on quiet the controversy that has been hanging over her campaign for months now. by the way, something she said she would not do previously. we begin with another first. donald trump's first big speech since the news making gop debate. tonight in michigan on the road between flint and saginaw which we'll go to. and the polling since the debate. for the first time it shows donald trump leading in iowa. he says it proves he is right about how he's running the race. some of the numbers though, not such good news as you'll see shortly but overall, good news
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for donald trump. in addition, new voices calling for actions to stop him on the republican side. all of that ahead tonight. let's listen in to donald trump live right now in michigan. >> supposed to be a positive thing. so the american dream which we know very much it is. i'm going to make it bigger and better. right? i go home and i see my wife. and she says, she'll make a very beautiful first lady. i can tell you. and a great first lady. she has a great heart. she cares more about those women issues that bush doesn't care about. she cares more about that. between her and evanka, believe me. so i go home and my wife says to me, that was a rough statement you made tonight. what? i thought did i great. i got a standing ovation. the crowd was packed. what are you talking about? you said the american dream is dead. i said what? the american dream is dead.
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oh. i said let me see it so replate. it is really great. you can replay it from ten years ago. so here i am. i'm standing here and i'm saying, the american dream is dead. cut. off to the next story. i said that's terrible. that's terrible. no. it's dishonest. okay? very dishonest. it's true. very dishonest. oh, could i tell you stories. i've always found, with financial, it is a little easier to figure. i've always found the financial media to be pretty good, you know. you have some guys there too but pretty good. but the political media and the coverage, wow! it's tough. and i tell it to people because i want you to know. a lot of time what you're reading is just not the truthful it's just not the truth.
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now, the biggest television with my saying that, you know, is that they will now go and report that trump made a terrible speech. very unenthusiastic crowd. the place wasn't packed and there aren't a thousand people outside trying to get in. but who can blame them? hey. i probably would do the same thing if i heard this. so you look at what is going on at the border where mexico is absolutely destroying us at the border, and others. by the way, they're coming from all over the world, people. they're going through the border. but they're coming from all over the world. they're coming from the middle east, folks. i hate to tell you. they're coming from the middle east. but mexico is also brilliantly killing us on trade. mexico is the new china. mexico is taking plans.
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for cars, it will be -- you can forget detroit what it used to be. this will make detroit look like small potatoes. in its prime. because they're taking our factories and they're rebuilding these massive plants in mexico. so in tennessee, they were going to build a plant. it was a done deal. a big german car company. practically a done deal. at the last moment, they decided to build it in mexico. watch. you know how? like here. believe me. so let me just tell you. now, now we have a great company. ford. a great company or a good company? what do you think? good company. i like them. i don't blame them. i don't blame them. and it is very appropriate because i'm making this speech. i've told this story. people hate this story but they love it because it explains it. they hate the story.
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very depressing. so ford is building a 2.5 billion plant. right? in mexico. they're building it in mexico. so you say, now, how is that good for us? so i said to myself, right? no good. we don't have to be business geniuses to figure, they're building a plant. it is a massive plant. one of the biggest in the world. they'll make all these trucks, cars and parts. it so big, they'll make the parts and the trucks. i gave them a good idea. why don't we just let the illegals drive the trucks and cars through the border. it's true. i gave them that, save a lot of money. that will be next. they'll be doing that next. so they're building this massive plant. and i said to myself, okay. let's say that jeb bush or hillary or one of these
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politicians, all talk, no action. all controlled by lobbyists and special interests and donors. people like me from previous months, okay? total control. bing, bing, bong, bong, you know what that is, right? so i said let's say jeb bush is president. he's not a stupid person. i agree with you. you know, he was so nice to me at the debate. they said i won the debate. is that nice? is that nice? the polls came out and said i won. and boy, did i have nasty questions. i stood up there and said, i don't believe this. some of those questions. actually, rosie o'donnell saved me. this is one time. she saved me. i never thought i would be giving credit to rosie. but in this case, she was great.
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but i look at what's going on. i say supposing jeb is president. now, he knows it's not a good thing to have a $2.5 billion plant over there and plants from michigan and all over the place are just going, boom, let's close them up. boom. we're going to mexico. no tax no, nothing. so i said, what would jeb bush do? he would probably say that's not a good thing. if he ever said it strongly which he wouldn't. there is no energy there. no energy. we need energy! we need tone. you know? tone. we need tone. it's true. jeb and hillary on the same day. they said donald trump has too strong a tone. too strong! we have heads being chopped off because they're christian in the middle east will we have borders where people are being killed. the world is cracking up and
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they're worried about my tone. i should be toned down. >> first speech since the gop debate. cnn's sara murray is there for us tonight. describe the scene around you that you're seeing. >> reporter: this is a very fired up crowd, anderson, tonight for donald trump. people are stomping on the bleexers. they're cheering. at one point he got a standing ovation when he was talking about building a wall and securing the border in mexico. people throwing back a couple beers and glasses of wine while they were waiting for trump who was running late or just really excited to see him in michigan tonight. >> i understand a little while ago he addressed if he would run as a third party candidate. what did he say? >> reporter: there have been some rumors going around that he might finally dismiss this idea that he would make a third party
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run. if that was the characters he was not ready to do it tonight. let's take a listen. >> i want to run as a republican. that's what i'm doing. i'm leading in every poll. the local and the national polls leading and by substantial margins. i hope he will be the republican nominee. that's the best way to win. i'm going to keep the door open on the other. if i'm not treated fairly. the word is fairly. i want to run as a republican. i don't want to run as a third party or an independent. as long as i'm treated fairly. >> reporter: you can see, it is clear donald trump wants to hold out this leverage over the republican party. he's not ready to dismiss the third party run and he knows how disruptive that could be to the gop. >> he also talked about how he thinks he will do with hispanic
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voters. >> reporter: yeah, and his comments afterwards, if he is worried about it, he is not showing it. he is coming out saying he will do great with women. let's take a look. >> we're going to do very well with the hispanic vote. we'll do great with the women vote. if you look in nevada, they can the poll and i'm leading in the hispanic vote. i create jobs and i will create tremendous numbers of jobs. and then the women's health issues, i'm for that. i watched jeb bush give the worst answer the other day. i think that's going to be his 47%. now, he then went and he said he misspoke. how do you misspeak about that? i will be great on women's health issues. i cherish women. and i will be great on women's health issues. believe me. >> reporter: and trump doubled down on that attack on jeb bush tonight in front of this crowd. i want to say, i talked to a
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couple women in attendance and them they don't think that donald trump will suffer with women. they thought the debate was politics as usual and they are still on team trump. >> thanks very much. i want to get perspective from gloria borger, dana bash, and senior political reporter, mia malika henderson. it is interesting to see trump. he is clearly very relaxed. he is hitting on a number of themes using comments he said before. overall, does it seem to you he sort of has begun to shift a little bit that since this controversy that occurred in the last couple days over the debate? >> reporter: absolutely. right now he is feeding off the crowd like an entertainer does or a politician does. he is having fun. you can see with it his gestures and what he is saying. >> and they're clearly enjoying him. >> absolutely. a two-way street.
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the press conference that he gave before. sara gave a couple clips from that. i was really struck but how mellow he was. he was praising some of the reporters on their questions. now i'm sure they weren't total soft balls. i'm sure they were questions, maybe not as tough as he got in the debate but they were real questions. it was a very different vibe that he was putting out there at that press conference. and it really struck me as something that could not have been just chance. >> and he was also all during the press conference very focused on issues. there wasn't a deep draw on a lot of things. on china and trade, there was a deep dive. >> he said in a couple weeks we'll have some plans. i want to tell you on a business plan, you can't have a 19-point plan. situations are going to change. we didn't hear a lot of details.
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it was a stream of consciousness like this speech but the message was, trust me. because i'm a success and i want america to succeed and i want you to succeed. and for right now, if you look at the audience and you talk to people who are trump supporters, that seem to be enough. i don't know how long that will last. his opponents will start attack from the right as they started doing today saying he's an imposter. he is not a real republican. he will have to answer them. but no invective as dana was pointing out. he's clearly taken a turn. >> and even scott walker is starting to attack donald trump. something he had been holding back from doing. i guess he wasn't happy with the way he came out of that debate and feels he needs to be more aggressive. >> that's right. scott walker is taking him on. he did take him on in that debate in cleveland. i think the big question is does
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jeb bush start to take him on in any substantial way? he did go down and criticize him. he went to the red state convention that trump was disinvited to and criticized again donald trump for his tone, his comments about megyn kelly. what does jeb bush do? i think the criticism of jeb bush that donald trump is lobbying, that he lacks energy and passion. that's credible criticism and it is criticism that you hear from sort of republican pundits and strategists who say this is a guy, bush, who rolled out the sort of shock and awe campaign. and now it is sort of a shock and uh-huh in many ways. the poll reflect that. >> i had roger stone on last night. he was either fired or resigned depending on who you believe. his take on it, he wasn't
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bad-mouthing trump but he was saying he doesn't believe trump should get into these feuds in a big way. it brings trump into a cul-de-sac. he should stay on big picture issues, on immigration and things which have gotten him where he is. leading pretty much all the polls. it does seem, whether or not it was roger stone's influence or not. it seem like trump is attempting to do that. clearly there was a phone call with roger ailes. it seems like he is trying to retake the, change the focus over what has been the last couple days. >> it does seem like. that having said that, anderson, you and i talked after i interviewed him in new york a couple weeks ago and we both had that same feeling from the way he was talking to me. he is more zen. he wasn't as bombastic and then he was pushed and he pushed right back.
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the question is, if he does do this as a strategy, whether or not he has the will power to sustain that. to not do the kind of hitback that he is used to doing, that did he for years and years, when he was a celebrity billionaire, rosie o'donnell. >> a lot of his supporters like. thank you. now more on the actual polls that have come out since the debate. the poll that show donald trump out ahead for the first time in iowa. they do contain some signs that his support across the board might have some limits. we want to look at the numbers deeply. there is a lot of information to read in them. john king has been sifting the new data. he joins us and he's finding out by the numbers. >> what if any effect has the first debate had on the poll
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numbers? >> he is leading in two states. we have to put hill on the watch list. trump at 17. scott walker at 12. marco rubio. that's the same number he was at pre debate. he didn't bump up but he held steady at 17%. he can say he's leading. some say it might be the signs of a bit of a decline. let's move to new hampshire. trump on top at 18%. in the other polls, he was in the 20s. is he coming down a bit or is the field shaking out? he is in first place. bush, then kasich. let's look deep entire the numbers. favorable, unfavorable. split in new hampshire. 46-46. those aren't great but they're not bad. here's where you see some questions post debate. in eye warning 55% of
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republicans say they're less comfortable with donald trump's controversy. 23% say they're more comfortable. that's a big number. and moving on to new hampshire. 41% say they like some of trump's ideas but they don't think he has the temperament. lacks the temperament to be president of the united states. so that's 70%. 41 plus 29. 70% of new hampshire republicans say i don't support him at all or he doesn't have the temperament to be president. >> back in 2012, we saw it change pretty significantly. has there been any change? i saw fiorina move up a little bit. >> she did. that's the most noticeable. in iowa, she was in seventh. she was nowhere at the bottom of the pack before. in new hampshire, at 9% which puts her in fifth.
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the people who watched the afternoon, the junior varsity debate, look at the number. who impressed you the most? the runaway winner. 82% say she most impressed them during afternoon debate. in iowa, should carly fiorina be invited into the top tier next time? 93% said yes. marco rubio moved up in iowa, scott walker, a bit of a trouble mark. keep in mind, just like 2012, a shake-up after the debate. in new hampshire, the man getting the most attention, john kasich. ted cruz up a bit in new hampshire and there's the carly fiorina number. no question, like 2012, republicans watch that debate and reassess. >> as much support as donald trump has among primary voters, there are a number of republicans who say trump has to
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michigan. we played a lot of that at the top of the broadcast. he is ending the day surrounded by supporters. a lot of people very happy to see him there in michigan. he began the day in the company of skeptics. he began on fox and friends. no one asked him about his debate dust-up with megyn kelly. he talk about his tone with chris cuomo this morning after he was called the most fabulous whiner in all of american politics. here's trump's answer. and some of the key moments from chris's interview. >> do i whine. i want to win. and i'm not happy -- >> are whiners winners? >> i am a whiner and i keep
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whining and whining until i win. i'm going to win for the country and i'm going to make our country great again. our country is a debtor nation. we have roadways falling apart. we have bridges that are coming down and that are unsafe. 60% of the bridges in this country need work and they're unsafe. >> how do you pass that infrastructure? how do you work with government? you can't just come back at everybody. >> i've made, chris, i'm worth more than $10 billion. i've been working with government all my life. >> but you've also been very rough on people over the years. it has worked for you. but in politics it is a little different. >> somebody has to be rough. >> you can't amounts be rough. >> i know you and your brother. your brother is a rough cookie and he is a good guy. >> there's a price for being rough -- >> you're a rough guy. >> a lot of people judge you for what you say. they don't have the policy ideas to test you on. and that's going to be something
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that will have to test you. >> i know policy better than anybody. >> you have to give the ideas, mr. trump. >> you can't just say -- it has to be flexible. i know policy better than anybody. i know politics better than anybody. i've been doing it all my life and from the other side. in a certain way it gives you a better perspective. but you will see what will happen. >> donald trump with new day's chris cuomo now. joining us, chris cohen, the executive vice president and special counsel to donald trump. you have to be happy about the polls that have come out. >> very happy. the post debate number show mr. trump leading. it is interesting. i was watching the guy go through the numbers on the poll. 18%, number two, at 12%. it's funny. an old expression. numbers don't lie. people do. how you want to play with the numbers. i see he's leading the number two guy by 33%. he is very happy. and we expect him to stay there. and we do expect him to be the
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gop nominee. >> we had roger stern on the program. and i don't want to get into who fired who, who quit. that's irrelevant. he was saying very positive things about donald trump. >> he and mr. trump still remain friends and they probably will post this, whatever happens. >> he said they have a long history. up and down. but one of the things he was saying which i thought was very interesting. he was saying he didn't believe donald trump should get into this sort of, this fight with megyn kelly and fox. that it brings the campaign into what he described as a cul-de-sac. the campaign should stay big and on the big broad make america great slogan in ideas, which is where trump has gotten. whether or not this is because of roger stone or donald trump's doing, it seem like in the last day, that's exactly what he is doing. watching him tonight. talking to the press. watching him in michigan. he is comfortable. making jokes.
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the crowd is liking it. he is talking about his experience as a businessman and what he has learned from that. whether he is talking about the specifics, he is talking more as a candidate about issues which he is going to have to deal with. is that a conscious thing, do you think? >> donald trump is a wonderful speaker. an incredibly bright guy. i'm sure roger must have said to him, i think you should bring the tone down. donald trump doesn't listen to anybody. except for himself. and he is only going to be himself. the guy is the highest paid speaker that is out there on the circuit. he is really comfortable speaking. he is really comfortable speaking before large audiences. especially in places like michigan. he understands the problems going on in detroit. he understands the problems going on in michigan. what is killing him, and it is the reason why he is running. the reason for his slogan, make
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america great again. you have a plant that is going to be built in mexico. that plan should be in detroit. the money should be going to michigan. their economy thrives off the auto industry. >> the campaign. how are decisions made in this campaign? all campaigns grow. people come. people go. it seems to me that this is a relatively small intense group that donald trump has at this stage in the campaign. and he is not, he is spending time tonight in michigan. he's been in iowa, in new hampshire. it is very new york based. and yet, he is able to, however he does it. capture the company. he has defied the laws of political gravity. this campaign will go down in history as a phenomenon and i expect my children one day in a polysci class.
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>> my gut tell me, let's do this. >> vex the way he runs the organization. top down. there is input from other people. no one person can do everything. a friend of mine from michigan called me up and he said to me something very interesting. when he sits in his window and he was talking for all people in michigan. and we see the politicians going down the street. in his mine, the politicians are looking at poverty. they're at trouble. they're looking at tough issues they're going to have to handle. when donald trump is driving, the same person sitting in the window. they see donald trump's feeling is opportunity and hope. it is a totally different mindset. >> you're saying there is an aspirational feeling that people link into. >> yes. >> i want to ask but something rand paul said. i was surprised by this comment that he said. and i don't know if donald trump has responded to it yet or if he plans to. rand paul was asked, i guess donald trump tweeted something about rand paul saying, he was a
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spoiled brat. paul said today, if we're talking about who is a spoiled brat or not, my two kids work minimum wage jobs. do you think the trump kids have been working at the local pizza hit? i was surprised that he brought donald trump's kids into this. >> a nasty comment by a guy who is truly frustrated. he feels as a politician, that he is automatically entitled to the numbers. he is automatically entitled to be taken seriously in this political arena. who is donald trump to come in and do anything? who is he to be the front-runner for seven weeks? so he is angry. and do you know what? not a nice comment. the children are great kids. mr. trump has raised wonderful children. all of them. and they should not be a target. >> who does the campaign see as the biggest threat in terms of opposition? in terms of from the gop side?
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>> i don't think we see any of them as a threat. maybe the media. neutral zone not a board saying we're going to focus on walker or today we'll focus on jeb bush. >> not at all. one of the reasons for this issue that took place with fox, one thing mr. trump only wants is to be treated fairly. >> what does that mean to be treated fairly? >> the same way everybody else is treated. he is not looking for them to come at him. don't be part of the rand pauls or the scott walkers. because he is not establishment. >> there is been talk about position paper that's may be put out. putting more meat on the bone. do you expect to see that in the coming weeks? >> well, look. donald trump is a really smart guy. he understands the positions. the problem is positions change on a daily basis. >> that seem to be his message
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tonight. actually an interesting, critics say it is an interesting way getting specifics. >> it's not. >> right now, we have, what? 19 trillion in debt? millions on food stamps. we have crumbling bridges and roadways of the third world. who caused this? not donald trump. they're the problem. donald trump is the solution. >> one thing i found very interesting to hear him say tonight, and it seems effective, certainly to the crowd tonight. him talking about his own personal business experiences of. whether it was someone in florida or the post office in washington. he said all these people wanted to build it. i went down there, i punched and i punched and i got it. i think people respond tom. >> absolutely. why would they not? donald trump is the quintessential deal maker. possibly the best deal maker in
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the history of this country. what is america looking for? they're looking for job security. they're looking for a good life. they're looking to leave something better for their children than they have right now. without someone like donald trump, we won't have it. >> we'll see how the message holds up. thank you. >> when we come back, what is driving? some of them waited all day for a chance to see donald trump speak there. >> they gave it a big beautiful renewal. 28 shows. i think it was 28. a lot. branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. happens at the water's edge. here, they must look their best. smooth, beautiful skin is an advantage. the others can only hide in shame.
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donald trump just wrapped up in michigan. earlier a columnist wrote a about why donald trump will flare out. >> you make the argument that he will eventually implode or fade. why do you think that? >> well, this is silly season.
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it is early. there are six months until any vote here. donald trump has had saturation media coverage and universal name recognition and this is a large field. that has yielded the result that we've seen. i think it will be important for republicans to confront him sooner rather than later. his brand is toxic for the party. the longer this goes, the more likely he is to pursue the third party candidacy which i think will be the ultimate problem for the party. >> you think the longer he is out on the stage, he won't want to give that up? >> yes. at some possibly you convince yourself that you can hear hail to the chief. if donald trump reach that's point, he may try to do a third party candidacy. if he is marginalized early, which i think is likely.
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then i think that worst outcome for republicans becomes less likely. >> do you agree with michael that the idea that republicans have to basically, if they want to try to weaken trump now, or even get him out of the race, they have to start hitting him harder and sooner? >> i don't. michael has written an awfully good column and i think everyone should read it. but i sense, anderson, trump is defying gravity. as you said last night. he is going to come down. if the republicans get, attack him, it will be an extended debate going past last thursday night into the future and into august and into september. and if they were to force him out early, i think by beating up on him, i think he would be more likely to run the third party candidacy if he feels victimized. everybody gangs up on him. i think he is more likely to run third party. if noonl the candidates almost
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to a person begin putting forward what they believe. what their agendas are. what they would like to see happen in a way john kasich has, that seem to be a much smarter way. let the press beat up on him. there are plenty of commentators who are going after him day after day after day. i think he to an extent enjoys that. the jousting. he likes the attention. i don't think it is the right strategy for all the republican candidates to force him out of the race right now. >> what about that? do you risk kind of doing more harm? poking somebody who is more than willing to fight back and fight back twice as hard? >> i think republicans have seen what happens when they don't really confront him. and he takes the stage and knows how to take it. i think there's a serious issue here. this is not all fun and games for the republican party. there is one type of populism that is kind of against obamacare.
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is concerned about government's role in our life. the republican party has incorporated that tea party populism. another kind of populism that is xenophobic. the resentment of outside siders, of mexicans. that's more like a national front in france. republicans can't incorporate that. they have to make clear that there are lines here. this is not the party. and that is going to take, i think, a serious early effort to define that clearly. >> michael, again, i recommend people read your piece. thank you. coming up, breaking news in the hillary clinton e-mail investigation. late today, an announcement that she will turn her private server over to the justice department. something she had said she would not do previously. that's next. ♪
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hillary clinton handing over to the justice department the private e-mail server she used while she was secretary of state. she is also handling over copies of her work-related e-mails
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which she's already given to the state department. joining me to talk about this, senior correspondent, the political commentator, co-chair of a pro hillary clinton super pac and a long-time adviser to bill clinton in the 1990s. this news that hillary clinton is turning over her server, she previously said she was not going to do that. didn't she? >> she did. she was very defiant. remember the press conference she had at the united nations in march? five months ago? she said that serve her remain private. a lot has happened since then. the congressional investigation is underway. now they're wanting to look at that server to see if there was any classified information on it. to see how it was protected. so this is a vast difference.
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this has had an impact on her campaign. it has affected her credibility, how voters view her. so to me, making this sudden change of heart is the first big acknowledgement that the clinton campaign realizes this is a potential problem and they want to move on as quickly as possible. to jeff's point, how big is this? hitting at the incredibly important issues of how much people can trust her? >> people will always attack any politician. this is a good example of what we in clinton land have called clinton rules. remember how we filmed out when mitt romney left the governor's office in massachusetts and he and his top aides wiped out and destroyed all of their files. there was no outcry. they didn't just keep private servers. they destroyed them. all the computer records. and nobody cared. but okay. hillary is a clinton so we'll hold her to a different standard. that's fine. i think it is good that they're
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doing it but let's go to the next thing. at some point we'll talk about issues that matter to people. >> you don't think it matters to people. you look at poll probably closer than anyone. when you see opportunity favorability ratings, you don't think this affects that. i think it is one thing, what are you going to do for me, my family, my country. three questions. sorry. she's breaking through. i thought her position this week on student loan reform and college debt. trying to let middle class kids to go college debt-free. it will mattery lot more. they'll to have clear out the journal brush. that's fine. a different set of rules for you. fine. she'll rise to that standard. >> it does go to the criticisms over the years.
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paul can say a different set of rules. her critics will say she lives by a different set of rules. >> that's right. she decided to use a private server in january 2009, she made the decision for whatever reason. she said it was convenience. that's why this is still being discussed and that's why it will be discussioned for however long. fair or not, it is reality. and they are accepting that by finally handing over the server. >> i worked in the government. i think everybody who works in the government should use a government server. i think jeff is right. i think that was a miss team of everybody who works in the government should use government e-mail. i'm old enough to remember. i work in the clinton white house. there was a congressional investigation, lasting over a year looking into the clintons' christmas card list. christmas card list. anything that the republicans can use to try on tarnish them.
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join the nation. thank you. about two dozen arrests in ferguson late last night into the early morning hours. various acts of violence surrounding the one-year killing of michael brown. today st. louis police released surveillance video they say shows 18-year-old tyrone harris pulling out a gun two nights ago. he was wounded in a shoot-out of police sunday night. we may have, we have not independently confirmed this is harris in the video but that's what the st. louis county police are saying. sarah joins us now from ferguson. talk about what police are saying. the family of the young man, at least his aunt said he did not
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have a gun. >> reporter: that's correct. she says he was unarmed of this is video from west florissant where the shootings, several of them, happened sunday night into monday morning. people are scattering. then suddenly you see a figure, a man, pulling a gun from his waist band and then running with it. police say that person is tyrone harris and they say it is the same person who ended up shooting at police and police shot back hitting him several time. he is in critical condition in the hospital but he is alive. his family again, earlier before all this came out. they did not believe he was armed, that he was shot, it was the wrong person at the wrong time in the wrong place. but this video, police say, shows otherwise. anderson? >> there is also more information coming out about tyrone harris from his facebook account, correct? >> that's right.
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police say they are investigating this facebook account that is name ty glock, being the name of a firearm. on that account there are numerous pictures of someone holding a gun. this particular picture, police are looking at. they say they believe this is actually tyrone harris holding those two guns. they are using this in their investigation into him and the shooting that happened overnight sunday night into monday morning. >> all right. sara sidner. thank you. and at the top of the hour, donald trump speaking at his first major campaign event. still taking shots at his opponents. highlights and analysis when we continue. ve to remember passwords. or obsess about security. she'll log in with her smile. he'll have his very own personal assistant. and this guy won't just surf the web. he'll touch it. scribble on it. and share it. because these kids will grow up with windows 10.
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