she spent the week end in isolation despite testing negative for ebola twice after returning home from west africa where she was helping fight the deadly disease. alexandra field joins us from newark outside of the hospital. hickox will leave soon so this doesn't mean her quarantine is lifted, it means she'll be transported by private ambulance to maine, correct. >> she to be hold by hospital officials she would be kept here for the quarantine period but she consulted attorneys, they were pushing for her release and now the energy department of health is saying she will be released from the hospital. however, while she is in the state of new jersey, if quarantine order remains in place, that's why she's being taken privately back to maine. this also means maine has to deal with the issue of ebola and what their policies and procedures would be. this nurse has tested negative twice. they say she's been symptom free since she was tested saturday morning but it will be up to officials in her home state of

maine to determine what their policy is. whether or not they will enforce any kind of quarantine for her when she arrives back there. as long as she is in this strait, health officials say she will still be kept quarantined. carol? >> the private ambulance that will transport her, is it equipped to deal with ebola patients? >> well, look, the senior state officials in new york and new jersey have said repeatedly that their states were prepared to deal dw w any threat or possibly of ebola and these patients who are suspected cases are only take on the facilities are that are, we're told, prefired handle these things so you have to believe at this point that every proper procedure would be follow followed. this hospital says that they've been working closely with cdc officials to monitor casey hickox. so, yes, it seems she will be taken, kept quarantined and brought back to maine where decisions will have to remain about her treatment. this is a woman who said she felt her rights were being violated based on the fact she was being kept here.

she said she didn't understand it from the very beginning when she returned to newark, new jersey, after leaving the hot zone in west africa where she had been working with ebola patient, she was screened at the hospital which is now the procedure in this state and at four other airports. she was symptom free, we're told, when she arrived at the airport. at some point, health officials say, she developed a fever which is why they bought her here. she had been adamant she is not sick and she's tested negative twice for the ebola virus. >> so stay right. there's i'm going to bring elizabeth cohen in because she talked to kaci hickox over the weekened. she'll be transported to maine, we don't know what will happen to her once she get there is. you say she lives in the middle of nowhere in maine? >> she told me she lives near the canadian border in fort kent, maine. so that's a long drive. it's a good question. will they send an ambulance with guys in hazmat suits on? she doesn't have ebola. i want to say again, she doesn't have ebola. >> but she's in isolation. >> at some point it stops making sense. >> what do you suppose will

happen in maine and has maine thought about this? we've been trying to get ahold of the maine health department and we can not. >> the cdc said, look, anyone coming back from west africa, a health care worker, whoever, needs to have daily contact from someone with the state or local health department so if they're following what the cdc says, one of their workers will call her or maybe want to visit her and say "hey, how are you feeling" maybe they'll want to take her temperatures. maine has not issued quarantine orders as far as we know. in the meantime, there's a little boy who is being tested for ebola. >> he's five years old and he has a fever and he's come back from from guinea. figuring out if he was exposed is tough. i don't know how you would absolutely positively know that

firstedly they said they wouldn't test him, now they say they will. >> so the family won't know for a while. but you can have a high fever, right? >> you can have a high fever from many, many things. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. i want to bring in gavin mcgregor skinner, an infectious disease specialist. he's led teams working with ebola patients in west africa. welcome, zblir good morning. i'm glad you're here in the past you've told members of your team to tell the truth when they return from west africa, when they come back to the united states now you say "i can no longer tell my team to tell the truth." that's disturbing to some, why do you they? >> because of what we're focusing on. we're focusing on a disease in west africa. that's where we have to go to prevent that global pandemic. we need the government of this country and other countries to support the doctors and nurses

and everyone else involved to get to west africa and control ebola there. i'm still talking to my teams on a daily basis. i talk to them on video conferencing, text messaging, cell phones, they're around lot of stress both physically and mentally, they have nightmares. they're doing the best they can. they want to come back to their families for thanksgiving and christmas and then then to have a short break and get back to west africa. they don't want to be locked in their houses and they're saying "gavin, what do we tell when we come back through the airports in a few weeks time?" >> so what are you telling them to say? >> at the moment these people are so value to believe the effort to protecting not just u.s. citizens but every it is s in the world and as we're seeing the feed is to go to best africa, i have to ensure they come back here. i can't tell tell them tell the truth because we're seeing so much irrational behavior. >> but it's so vital. it's so vital that we tell the truth so that the public knows.

they can't come back in and lie. >> but elizabeth was correct. elizabeth said the nurse didn't have symptoms and didn't have ebola. i know from when i was working directly ebola patients i was being vomited on, i was working with patients that had diarrhea, i was wearing the protective clothing. the personal protective, i was protected from ebola. i never developed ebola and i've come back numerous times between the u.s. and west africa. if i come back now and say i've been in contact with ebola patients, i'll be locked in my house for 21 days. when i'm in the u.s. i am visiting u.s. hospitals everyday helping them get prepared for ebola. you take me out for three weeks, who will replace me and help u.s. hospitals get ready? those gaps can't be filled. >> new york's governor did come out and he said that he understands the hardship that would be placed on doctors but he has a responsibility to his citizens. he even said, you know, if you're not being paid by your employer in the united states, the government will reimburse you. if you're afraid you're going to

be fire wed eel talk to your employer. does that make you feel any better? >> no, not at all. the decisions politicians are making throughout the country are not based on scientific evidence, they're completely irrational. we're looking for --s where the ebola team? s where the ebola team that representatives of all the community, private sector, public zektor, corporate, academia, religious leaders, get the ebola team together so we can educate to you about the disease, show you the precautions we take,. i don't want ebola and i know when i bring my team back we are talking each day on video conferencing, face time, skype, text messaging, supporting each other. as soon as i feel sick i'm going to stay at home and call for help but i won't go to a redskins game in washington. that's irresponsible. but i need to get back to hospitals and help them be prepared so i can do my job. >> but yet some might argue dr. spencer, the doctor being treated for ebola in the united states, he went bowling, he went to restaurants, he didn't stay home for those 21 days and limit

his contact with people. so some people might argue there needs to be some sort of quarantine policy put into place. >> that's an interesting point because cdc on their ebola web site has been telling us now for many months that if we have direct contact with ebola patients in west africa to control our movement. stay commercial travel, planes, trains, buses, ships, stay away from them and report to public health authorities. that's what my team does. those cdc guidelines have been there for many months. if you go to cdc ebola on the cdc web site you'll see the guidelines. nothing's changed. what has to change is that our politicians need to be educated, need to be based on scientific fact. we know there is no cure, no vaccine for ebola. if any of us feel systematic we need to be into hospital very quickly. we also know if we feel systematic we won't go out and mix with crowds, mix with the public. that's the responsibility that doctors and nurses take everyday

that communication is not going at the moment and we're seeing too much irrational behavior not based on scientific evidence. >> what needs to happen to make things zpleer. >> right now there's so many of us that have traveled to west africa, so many of us coming home for thanksgiving and christmas and other festivities. we have a peer to peer network. again, we take our temperature twice, maybe three, four times a day just to be cautious. we then communicate as a peer-to-peer network. we talk to each other. we ask how you r you feeling. as soon as we're not feeling well we stay at home. when we are feeling well i'll go to my kids' soccer game on a saturday and live like a normal person and go to work everyday like a normal person and do the best i can at saving lives. that's what i do. >> gavin macgregor skinner, thank you for being with me. i appreciate. >> it you're welcome. >> still to come, a community deeply wounded and in mourning as they drople with the

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hospital officials announced 14-year-old gia soriano did not make it. another girl died at the scene. the freshman, jaylen fryberg, died of an apparent self-inflicted wound as the teacher grabbed his arm. three others remain in critical condition, two boys are cousins of the shooter. the grieving community made up of many native americans gathered in the gym. one mother could barely compose herself. >> when i heard the news, i about lost it. because there's nothing in this world more sacred than our children and as a parent, that's all we wish is that our kids come to school and that they're

safe and that they're happy and that they're not picked on at school or mistreated by anyone. joining me on the phone is another mother of a sophomore at that high school, her name is laurie peach. thank you so much for being with me this morning. i so appreciate it. >> no problem. >> laurie, what was the meeting like last night? >> it was very emotional. i think my daughter, she really hasn't shown her emotions a lot to me or others and you get there and you feel the families, you feel the children, my daughter is now it's all raw, you're inside at your school. and, you know what you just played there, it was very emotional and seeing everyone there. so it was really hard. >> i understand at some point the kids were separated into one

room and the parents in another. why did they do that? >> yeah, they did that, they had the students stay in the gym and they had all the parents go into the auditorium and they did that because they, one, wanted to have the students have time to -- you know, they wanted to ask the students what would be the best way for them to come back to school. and how would that be in the cafeteria or whatever? so they wanted to talk to them separately. for us, they wanted to -- they had handouts and they wanted to talk to us on how to give us tips on how to deal with our kids and talk to them. because all of our kids are grieving differently and they saw different things and so that's why they had us separate. >> so if i may ask -- and you don't have to answer if you don't want to -- what did you tell your daughter? >> well, i listened to my

daughter and if she wanted to talk to me i was there for the last few days. we've been together and she's been with her cousins and so that made a difference. i know the other day we stopped by the memorial at the school and that was the first time she broke down and, you know, it's really now you're like, wow. and it was very emotional for her there and i asked her, i said "what are you feeling" and she didn't want to at that time. but bits and pieces each day she'll talk to me about it. >> how can you explain the unexplainable? >> you can't. you see it and you go somewhere else and you go "i hope it doesn't happen here" and you think what are we doing here to make sure that doesn't happen? but you can't. wherever you go, that can happen. so my daughter did the right thing and we just tell her she

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the commander of the u.s. army in africa and ten other personnel are now in controlled monitoring. that's happening in italy right now. they just returned from west africa over the weekend. an official tells our barbara starr the plane was met on the ground by authorities in full cdc gear. barbara joins us now. what's up with this? >> carol, what we are told right now is none of the personnel are systematic. nobody's running a fever right now. nobody has any symptoms of having contracted ebola. but here's what we're talking about. major general daryl williams, u.s. army africa, had been in west africa for -- with his team for the last 30 days setting up the u.s. assistance mission there. general williams went everywhere. this is not a guy who sits in his hotel. he was out and about everywhere with his team. over the weekend, their scheduled return to italy. what has happened is the pentagon, the department and the army, essentially decided that

even though no one was showing symptoms they would be placed in this controlled monitoring situation. i have to tell you, that's a pentagon word "controlled monitoring." there are a lot of people calling it quarantine for a u.s. army two-star general and his team. they will spend 21 days, we are told, in vincenza italy at their home base but they will be in a separate area, they will not be allowed to go home, they will have their temperatures and any symptoms checked for regularly what we do not know at this point is whether their family members will even be allowed to come see them in any circumstances, in any controlled circumstances. it's really interesting for the military, carol, because the stated policy right now is if you are not showing symptoms you have your temperature checked for 21 days but you return to youring we work routine and you return to regular interaction with your family members.

this team will not. we are in the extraordinary circumstance right now, general williams, you see him there on the right, having returned to his home base, he and his team, will remain in this controlled environment away from everyone else for the next 21 days. again. this is a guy who had the mission to go to liberia, set up the effort to try and help with ebola, and he went out and about everywhere as his team did. as many of the u.s. personnel in liberia are now doing. we'll see how this works out, they insist no one is systematic, this is an abundance of caution but very different from what the stated policy is. carol? >> you'll keep digging on this story throughout the day. barbara starr, ma m thanks. still to come in the newsroom, plans are in the works on how to get an american nurse from new jersey to maine. casey hickox will soon be released from the hospital in newark. we'll talk about that next.

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ing. happening now in the newsroom, a nurse placed in mandatory quarantine in new jersey after returning from west africa will be discharged. she'll head to her home state of maine by private transport. we're live at the hospital in newark. plus, is president obama too cool for crisis management? we'll look at the political

fallout from isis to ebola. and a cnn exclusive. inside the syrian hot spot of kobani. our crews giving you access like no other on the ground, in the fighting, newsroom continues now. >> good morning. thank you so much for joining me, i'm carol costello. after sending a week end in isolation, kaci hickox, the nurse under mandatory quarantine at that new jersey hospital will get to go home to maine. just last hour governor chris christie's office said she could be released but while she's in new jersey she will be kept in quarantine. and hickox will be take on the maine privately, not by commercial aircraft or mass transit or public ambulance. alexandra field joins us live now from newark outside the hospital hickox will soon leave. tell us more. >> that's right, carol, i got off the phone with her attorney who says they are still making the arrangement bus they're hoping to get her out of here

quickly. steve hieman tells me this, she will be returning to maine as a quote/unquote normal person. this is a woman showing no symptoms of the ebola virus despite the fact that she has been kept in quarantine and isolation at university hospital in newark. what's unclear what will happen when kaci hickox gets back to maine. we're told while she's in new jersey she's still under quarantine because that is the protocol this state established. maine doesn't have such protocols so it will be hundred to health officials to determine whether or not kaci hickox would be quarantined or whether health officials will check back to her. her attorney is making it very clear that she should not be warn feeled. he says she is not sick, very healthy, that she's shown twice that ebola tests have come back negative so they are hoping to get her out of here. they want to see in the a private car. the attorney says he wants to seer in a private car returning to maine where she can get back to her normal life. she brought in attorneys to try and force her release from this hospital. she'd been told she would be kept here for 21 days.

attorneys were ready to go to court to get her released. that won't be necessary right now but hieman says he feels there are grounds to challenge this protocol that's been put in place. the mandatory quarantine of people who have returned from the hot zone and have had contact with ebola patients. he said it's yet to be seen if kaci hickox is the woman who wants to go ahead and challenge those orders. >> after she's taken out of isolation -- and to be clear she does not have ebola, but after she's taken out of isolation she'll be put into a private car? >> that is what her attorney believes should happen. but there are a lot of logistics that need to be worked out because what we're hearing from the new jersey department of health is that while kaci hickox is in the state she's under quarantine. that might raise the question. does that mean she goes in an ambulance? that she's transported by people in hazmat suits? we have to see how the state will interpret that. but her attorney feels that there's no reason, he felt there was no reason for her isolation.

he feel there is's no reason she should have to leave here in any way less that's less than comfortable or less than normal. >> alexandra field reporting live from newark, new jersey, this morning. joining me to talk more about this is dr. devi. so so what do you make of this? >> i think 21-day quarantine makes sense. i think it's unfortunate this nurse got a raw deal. maybe this would have gone more smoothfully instead of going to someone and telling them "you must do this" and holding them against their will, just tell them "listen, while you were away, a lot of things have happened, we could use your help in managing this and this is the situation. we're worried about the city because --" well, with dr. spencer's case the public wasn't at risk:he didn't have symptoms but people became more worried about what if someone had symptoms. >> but it's confusing to the public because, ork, so she's in isolation but she doesn't have ebola and she doesn't have a

fever, she's completely healthy at this moment. >> exactly. >> those photos are a little bit alarming. >> so she's in this plastic tent outside of the hospital. she's not even in the hospital, right? >> yeah. >> she's using a port-a-potty to go to the bathroom. >> it looks very disturbing. >> now she aol be transported by a private ambulance or car. we don't know if that will be an ebola-protected vehicle. but if it's not, won't that just confuse people further? >> i agree. i think that part is confusing. she's not sick so why have all of this stuff done? i think it does make sense, though, i mean, you know, past that part. let's say she was in her home. it makes sense to stay in your home for a 21-day period. most of us don't have 21 days to just give up so i think it would make more sense for government officials to talk to these relief organizations and individuals and say, you know, what would make this more palatable to you? what would make you think this is acceptable? we want to reassure the public but -- >> i don't think anything could.

in fact, i just talked with a man who sends teams to west africa last hour in the newsroom and he told me here are these doctors, they're giving up their salary to go to west africa and they're working under the most heldish conditions you can imagine. and they're risking their lives. after they leave west africa, they want to come home as heroes. at least they want to be congratulated for what they do, not detained at the airport and put into an isolation ward for 21 days and treated like an ebola patient even though they don't have symptoms. so he suggested this that doctors may lie when they come back into the country. >> that's definitely a concern. why not recognize them as heroes? do something like that, maybe give them an award. if they're risking their lives for charity to help people say, listen, we can donate money, we can donate supplies to these organizations, we can do other things that would make it more accept to believe you. so i don't think anything will make it totally fair, don't get me wrong. but i think we have to weigh

individual liberties against the public. the public's perception of safety, their confidence, what's happening, there's no right answer. i think these people are already risking their lives for the public, for the public in west africa, of course. they might be able to understand why people would be scared about ebola and the fact that some of these health care workers who developed it, they had no idea they had been expose sod there is legitimate concern there about that. and then what you were -- >> but the most reasonable thing in your mind at least is to have them go to their homes? voluntarily -- >> exactly, voluntarily. but with monitoring. not self-monitoring but they're not criminals. so we can trust them. we can make it more clear. >> hopefully the federal government will come out with some sort of policy. will that happen? >> well, we need consistency because it varies from state to state. people could fly to canada or mexico and then drive in. it won't make sense if things

are different depending on which airport you fly into. >> dr. debbie, we appreciate it. another woman who can understand what quarantined nurse kaci hickox is going through is louise trow. she was the family of thomas eric duncan, the man who died from ebola. on sunday she was finally able to attend church services for the first time since she was released from quarantine. it comes as some of the health care workers who treated duncan at that texas hospital speak out. one of the first nurses to care for duncan told cbs' "60 minutes" duncan was not truthful about his contact with ebola while he was in liberia. >> what information was it he denied to the health officials? >> about his travels. about his -- him burying his pregnant daughter who died in childbir childbirth. he denied he said it's not true.

>> so he wasn't honest with them? >> yeah. >> rose and some of duncan's other nurses say the cdc protocols on the day duncan was hospitalized were deficient and one of those nurses, nina pham, did contract ebola from duncan. still to come in the newsroom, president obama and the politics of ebola. he's urging calm but do americans want and need to see more emotion from their commander in chief? or does good policy trump public displays? we'll talk about that next. thoughtfully crafted and intelligently designed. with available forward collision warning and new blind spot monitor and a 2014 top safety pick plus rating. cost of entry? a fortune. until now. hey sarah, new jetta? yup. can i check it out? maybe at halftime? introducing lots of new. the new volkswagen jetta.

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the obama white house under sharp scrutiny and at times criticism for its handling of the ebola response in the united states. something that that isn't lost on the people of saturday night

live. >> some people want to criticize the way our administration has handled it's crisis. and we made a few mistakes early on but i assure you, it was no where near as bad as how we handled the isis situation. [ laughter ] our various secret service mishaps or the scandals of the irs and nsa. and i don't know if you guys remember, but the obamacare web site had some pretty serious problems, too. [ laughter ] in fact, if you look at all the stuff that's happened my second term, this whole ebola thing is probably one of my greatest accomplishments. [ laughter ] >> okay, all jokes aside, the obama administration administration, its response to everything from syria to immigration to even the b.p. oil spill in the gulf have earned the president a spot on the latest cover of bloomberg "businessweek" and in an article headlined "obama is too cool for crisis management" the magazine writes in part "six years in, it's clear obama's presidency is largely about adhering to intellectual rigor regardless of the public's emotional needs."

so let's talk about this. anna navarro is a cnn political commentator and republican strategist and marc lamont hill is a political commentator and host of huff post live. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning, carol. >> good morning. mark, perhaps the best illustration of bloomberg's point, the white house sat down over the week end to craft federal guidelines for health care workers. governors are dealing with that in realtime, they can't exactly wait. so, mark, why weren't the feds talking about this before? >> i think first of all let me say there is a reasonable critique to be made of everyone's handling of the ebola crisis. particularly the cdc and particularly local authorities. if you look in texas and dallas more specifically. i do think sometimes we're criticizing the white house and president obama more specifically for taking an intellectually rigorous approach. looking at the facts, talking to experts and planning. it doesn't mean we're ignoring what's happening in realtime but it does mean we need a president

who doesn't simply respond to our emotional needs. the critique of the bloomberg piece is that president obama is too busy worrying about pesky facts and data and experts and not tending to our emotional needs. how immature is that. >> sometimes you need some emotion to get people's attention, to make them understand, to calm their fears. it can't just be cold logic, can it? >> it's an important part of the job to be the cheerleader in chief, the communicator in chief, to be the person who lifts the morale of the country and unites the country in times of crisis. yes we all understand that president obama doesn't like the theater of it but it's an important part of the job. i think it's reflecting on his poll numbers on the way democrats themselves are running away from them just how much distaste there is right now for his leadership style. and you know you can't run away

from the fact that the theater of being president is important and that he has not led -- you know, not led the way people want on the ebola thing certainly. it's been happening for months and you would have hoped that all government would have been more prepared. so now he appoint this is ebola czar but can i ask you has anybody seen this ebola czar? has there been an ebola czar siting? >> he was at a meeting over the weekend. >> what would you have him do? >> okay, but has he -- i'd like for him to communicating, i think i'd like what expect, mark, is for him to be coordinating the different agencies and it looks like there's a great deal of lack of coordination right now if you saw the press conference in new york yesterday, etc. >> here's my point. i agree that the american people want an emotional response from

the president. there's value in the theater and the symbolic. i was the one who criticized president obama for his response to ferguson so i get that. but when you're talking about a public health crisis, it's almost as if they want president obama to stand atop of this building saying a la george bush "i'm going to smokeout this ebola, i've got a fix for all americans." it's not logical. the president said it's unlikely mechanic will get an ebola out break, relax, calm down. i know it feels dismiss i have, i agree, but let's not criticize the president for being right, for having common sense. criticize the response, criticize the coordination, but let's not criticize the president for relying on expertise and facts. >> anna, last word. >> will, i think that's why people are criticizing the president because the response has been so lackluster. we've had one person die of

ebola in this country and all hell broke loose and it didn't look like there was any preparation and it looked like it was haphazard and ad hoc treatment of the problem that we all knew was going to show up at our shore at some point. and so i think because people are frustrated with the response, what you're seeing is the criticism of his leadership style. people are satisfied with the response, there would be no criticism. >> they're only going to be satisfied if ebola gone. as long as there's ebola no one will be satisfied. it's that simple. >> we have to leave it there. anna navarro, marc lamont hill, thanks as always, i appreciate it. >> pleasure. news just in to cnn they that i'm going to share with you right now. cnn has obtained video of what's believed to be the ambulance transporting the five-year-old boil to bellevue hospital in new york earlier this morning. that little boy has gone -- undergone testing for ebola. they should know the results in about 12 hours. the boy, he just traveled to west africa in the last 21 days, he developed a very high fever.

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cnn has obtained exclusive video of the latest fighting inside kobani, syria. you can see dark plumes of smoke rising as the battle rages between isis and kurdish fighters for the control of the keyboarder city in northern syria. the united states has conducted four air strikes in syria and seven in iraq, that's according to central command. isis militants are also getting rocked from the air and ground in iraq as u.s. warplanes conducted those seven more air strikes against the terror group from sunday into this morning. iraqi soldiers beat back isis force in a battle south of baghdad on the ground. you see them celebrating there. but some question just how big of a role they actually played in this victory and whether or not they'll be able to hold on to the territory for long. cnn's ben wedeman joins me live from baghdad to tell us more. hi, ben.

>> hi, carol. yes, the area we're talking about is about 45 minutes south of baghdad. this is an area where until recently isis was in control after a two-day battle. the iraqi military and significantly shi'a militias as well managed to move them out, push them out of that area we've been seeing on iraqi tv celebrating iraqi troops and militiamen, also pictures of what they allege are dead isis fighters and other isis prisoners. now, we were in that area yesterday and what becomes apparent the closer you get to the front lines is that the real bulk of the fighting seems to be being done not by the iraqi army but by these shi'a militias. but they took a hit, got a blow last night. [ muted ].

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what could be better than football for breakfast? it was weird over the weekend, right no? you woke up 9:30 in the morning and you watched the lions take on the atlanta falcons. it was such a strange game. it illustrate it had lions' assent and the falcons' slide. what a game. i almost had a heart attack. >> it was a really weird game. i have to say, i liked pouring a bowl of serial and watching football all day. >> you did? i thought it was too much.

>> now i know how everyone on the west coast feels. this was such a weird game if falcons were up the 21-0 at half time and completely blew it. it was 21-19 in the closing seconds and the falcons did everything they could to give this game away. they threw ball when they should have ran the ball which was a total gaffe on the coaching staff's part. if we could roll it so we see what we're talking about. here's mike smith. being second guess add lot this morning. a lot of monday morning quarterbacks. the lions ended up with a 43-yard field goal that would have won the game. it was no good but they got probably the luckiest delay of game in nfl history. they didn't snap the ball in time. they got to rekick the ball and here you go. that's it. the lie yoons made a field goal for once. they're having all kinds of problems doing that. >> so they won. >> so the falcons were calling time out to give the lions more time on the clock. a defensive holding call. so many questions things. they blew this game. a lot of people in atlanta are

calling if r mike smith's job. they think he should be fired. ! >> atlanta has a bye week, right. they have time to get somebody in place. >> this is the time where nfl teams make a move. the new coach would have two weeks to get ready. >> i don't think you gave the lions enough credit because stafford had an incredible second half. he connected with his receivers, something he did not do in the entire first half. >> and he's without calvin johnson. luckily for him other people are playing up big. do we have time for that one play? this was -- jeremy maclin had the big day yesterday. look at this hit, carol. peterson and buchanan just sandwich jeremy maclin, if we see it one more time. peterson went out with a concussion in this game. maklin went to the locker room. they said his ears were bleeding but he came back in the game and look what happened. he just had a weird day. he goes sliding through the gatorade into the table. he ended up catching a long pass in this game but they didn't win. that was probably the least

fulfilling gatorade bath. >> he needs a nice warm bath and a big drunk. >> i was shocked he came back in that that game. >> that was insane. andy scholes, thanks so much. i enjoyed the lions' highlights. "@this hour with berman and michaela" starts now. she is getting out. the nurse in a tent in with no fever is being allowed to leave. so what happens now? will ebola fears chase her north? heartbreaking news. another victim of the washington state school shooting has died that as we learn new details about the shooter. two of five student he shot are his cousins. police a teacher who is being hailed a hero for trying to top the shoot iing. >> and an american journalist goes inside syria breaking the law to take on terrorists. our ivan