sneezes. much more likely to be transmissed through blood. so hope that answers at least some of your questions. that will wrap things up for "sg md." time now to get you back into the "cnn newsroom" with poppy harlow. hi there, thanks for joining us, you're in "cnn newsroom." i'm poppy harlow. two developing stories at this hour highlighting the growing concerns about the potential threat of the spread of ebola and the efforts under way to fight it at newark's new jersey airport, a passenger was removed upon arrival from brussels today and the more than 250 people on his flight were briefly quarantined. there's no indication at this time that the man is infected with ebola. but the incident made for a very frightening end to the flight for many passengers. it is another sign of the heightened awareness of ebola and its potential dangers. the man was eventually transported to the hospital and

passengers were allowed to leave and to go through customs. in the meantime in dallas, texas health presbyterian hospital says that ebel la patient come mass eric duncan his condition has worsened, he's now listed in critical condition. let's go straight to our martin savidge who is outside the hospital and has been following this. i think there's two important things to talk about here, martin, his condition and then also the good news that we've gotten about people who they have been monitoring that could potentially been infected. let's begin with mr. duncan's condition. >> reporter: correct. that was updated to us just a short time ago and it was stated that he had been in serious but now he's listed in serious condition. medical authorities did not give us an explanation for that change. they didn't characterize what kind of treatment or what had brought about this decline other than, of course, the obvious fact that he is fighting a very deadly virus, so he's gone from serious now down to critical. focusing on the positive aspect and that is the fact that no one else, no one else, out over 100

people who have been apparently in some way may have had contact with thomas duncan have shown any symptoms of ebola, in other words, ebola is contained in dallas to one individual. we should point out that the cdc spends a lot of time, they spend a lot of time on the ground tracking down anybody who may have possibly even by the remotest means have had contact. that pool was put at 114 people. they say they have i.d.'d anyone and proanyone who may have possy had contact. they've reduced that to serious contact or any kind of real contact to 50. of which nine or ten are said to be the ones who had real direct contact. all are in good health. no sign of ebola. you have at least four people under quarantine and those were the ones who actually living with him at the time he got sick so that's the important thing to focus on for the positive. and, of course, thoughts and prayers are with the patient now. >> yeah, absolutely.

absolutely. when it comes to treating mr. duncan and potentially, martin, treating anyone else in the area if -- if -- they fall ill with ebola, do we know if the hospital there has that experimental drug zmap that has been used on ebola patients before or any other experimental drug? because i know there was an issue about a shortage of availability. >> reporter: correct. in fact, after the last people who had received it and it appeared to work very successfully for them, there were reports that was the last of it or that there was a very, very small supply because many said why aren't we using this in africa. apparently the cdc at a news conference today they did say if requested, in other words if the physicians attending to mr. duncan right now or his family were to request for the experimental treatment, and they didn't define it beyond that, it would be made available. so, apparently there is an experimental process that can be applied to him. we do not know if it's been asked for. the cdc implied it had not as yet. >> martin, thank you very much

for the update throughout. we'll see you a little bit later this evening. well, as you know ebola has triggered fear across the nation. our expert panel is here to tell you what you need to worry about and what you don't need to worry about. let's bring in thomas guisburg from the university of texas medical branch in galveston and dr. cindy yasmin joins us once again a staff writer with "the dallas morning news" and also a former detective at the cdc. thank you, both, for being here. let's talk about the plane scare today in newark involving some passengers. we know that some passengers on the plane were from liberia some, of course, were from elsewhere because this is a plane a lot of people made connections to in brussels and then came here to newark, new jersey. here is some sound just in to cnn from some of the passengers on that flight. listen. >> well, they didn't give us very much information. it was quite scary but it would have been nice to get better information. we were just told nothing. [ inaudible ] when he was

escorted from the plane. [ inaudible question ] it was a couple of people in clean suits and masks and just escorted off. he walked off under his own power. >> and what was going through your mind when you -- >> wow. it's really real, you know, that's what came to mind, yeah. and, you know, what's interesting is they kept holding us and holding us and holding us without much information. it just seems as if it would be wonderful if the organizations would talk to one another or at least be able to share information because we had to fill out cdc forms and customs already has all of our information it was, like, why? i just don't get why that happens. >> did anybody say ebola? >> yes. mostly the passengers. almost in a jokingly kind of fashion in the beginning. >> was anyone uponpanicked? >> i don't think there was any panic. >> tom, let me go to you. how can authorities in a situation like this decide relatively quickly, i mean, in a

marmt matters of hours that everyone else on the plane is final and can leave to go home? >> i think one of the things is that ebola is not transmitted from one person to another person by airborne transmission. it's not like influenza. the odds of you catching ebola just by sitting next to someone who has ebola is very, very low. so it's really only transmitted by close contact to bodily fluids. so it would really need to be a situation where somebody would have to be vomiting or, you know, there be some sort of blood loss or something like that that you would have to be in contact with to catch it. so, my guess is that's why the authorities handled this the way that they have. >> and just to be clear for our viewers, again, we at cnn cannot confirm, we do not know, authorities haven't told us whether or not there's any reason to believe that this sick patient who was, i should note, vomiting has any other symptoms tied to ebola. we just don't know yet. but obviously all precautions

are being taken. dr. yasmin to you, when you look at this, you were a detective with the cdc. we know the cdc responded here. and that the patient was vomiting. what would they be doing? >> what they'd be doing is a risk assessment, poppy. they'd be trying to get some more information from the patient, what are the symptoms they've had, how long have they been feeling sick for, for example, had they been vomiting before they even got on the plane. they'd want to know where that patient had been. if they'd been in a region where there was an ebola epidemic and if they'd had any kind of contact with an ebola patient. and what they also want to do is take information from passengers and the flight crew who are on that plane to make sure that they can get in touch with them in the future should they need to do any kind of contact tracing. >> looking at the schools, some of the schools there in the dallas area where you are, doctor, i know some of these electronic scanners are going to be deployed where students may have been exposed to thomas duncan or to children who were exposed to him. tell us about what those

scanners do, and is that enough? >> so, these scanners take someone's temperature without having to come into contact with the person or with their skin, for example, and we know with ebola one of the early signs is a fever. when we do quarantine, if we are monitoring them for any signs of ebola, one of the things we do is take the temperature twice a day and we can use the electronic scanners, for example, to make sure the patient is not developing a fever and if you take their temperature and they have developed a fever, you can quickly isolate them as soon as possible. >> to you, thomas, tell us a little bit about the drug testing in your school's laboratory that's going on right now to try to help -- help create some weapons, some successful tools to fight ebola. >> we actually are working on three maybe treatments right now. one is a vaccine that's actually starting phase one trial soon that we actually use as a preventive treatment. kind of like the rabies virus vaccine is used here in the united states. the other is a ball interfering

rna, this is the drug that was used to treat dr. sacra in nebraska. that drug has also been used on several other people. and then we are working with map at vanderbilt university on andy body antibodies. and you are familiar with how hiv has been successfully treated, it's when they started combining different treatments and you kind of come up with a cocktail approach so that's what we're looking at in our lab. >> i'm glad you guys are doing that work because something is needed to fight this and we don't have it yet. thank you very much to you both. you're going to stick around with us, because in just a few minutes we're going to have you back to answer some of your questions, you on viewers' questions, about ebola. we've been getting a lot here at cnn, so we'll do that later this hour. up next, though, the way the government has handled the ebola threat right here in the united states. the right and the wrong steps that have been taken. also later this hour another medical condition has already proven more deadly in the u.s. than ebola. the big reason for worry, it is

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we did to try to protect ourselves would actually increase our risk. >> marc, let me go to you first on that. we have heard increasingly the calls saying why are we flying in and out of these countries? you also have to help the people there. thousands of people in west africa have died. do you agree with what the cdc director is saying? >> i defer to their expertise. my first instinct to close the border and i don't want anything to come in or go out. but the truth is what they are saying is that's a greater risk by not doing that, you know, or rather by doing that so it's important for us to open the borders and also to go there and offer help for the 4,000 troops to go there to make sure they are protected and set up triage units. >> you are shaking your head. >> to me that seems to defy common sense. ebola never had to touch american soil if we had taken the proper protocols and steps from the very beginning. the gentleman in dallas now was actually issued a tourist visa. why was he allowed to travel?

>> just because he came from liberia? >> yes, if liberia is ground zero for ebola and the other countries in the immediate area but liberia is the ground zero, you need to stop sorry -- >> no one? >> no one needs to come into the country unless they are properly screened if you are talking about humanitarian efforts or whatever, you shut it down. >> we were told by the owe fishes in liberia that this passenger along with all their passengers go through numerous screenings. they had he had to check a box saying he wasn't in contact with anyone, you know, with ebola or he wouldn't have been able to go on a plane. >> do you trust someone coming from liberia to be honest and say they have it? >> someone from liberia -- >> let's be honest, liberia is ground zero for ebola. >> but the question is do you have the public health mechanisms in place to stop it? >> not in liberia. contain it there. >> there are things you can do. you make sure no one is symptomatic when they get on the plane. >> they have a 21-day incubation period potentially.

>> you inquire. you investigate. you make sure that they haven't been in contact with anybody. the same thing we do here in the united states. there are times when someone could have it, absolutely? but the worst-case scenario is you have one person that gets quarantined and treated and that's what happened here. where we dropped the ball was in dallas where the hospital didn't have the right mechanisms in place. >> can you weigh in on dallas, because you said what happened in dallas, the missteps by the hospital there, the missteps in terms of the hazmat teams getting all the soiled linens out of the apartment, moving the family members potentially affected that, that that is representative of a bigger u.s. problem of unpreparedness? >> yes. i think it started in liberia all the way to dallas and once he came to the united states, yeah, i think my fear is not necessarily of ebola, but my fear is of the united states government's ability to handle what's going on. clearly they were ill prepared. the fact that they didn't have -- well, that they have the protocols, they didn't follow them. so, there was human error there. the fact that they didn't have

contractors in place disposing of these biohazardous materials, what to do then, that's in the reassuring and the president of the united states two weeks ago come out and say, don't worry, ebola isn't going to come here, if so, we have the protocols in place and it's broken down severely since then. >> this has happened and we can complain about it as much as we want. but it's happened. what do we do now? >> we follow the protocols that the are actually in place. you are right that we didn't follow the protocols, what happened in the hospital is a problem. it doesn't mean we're ilprepared, it means we made a mistake. >> perhaps. >> i think mechanisms are in place. they dropped the ball at the hospital we all agree it is unacceptable. i don't think anyone is defending it. but the question now is what do we do. are we prepared to stop this. i think we are. we stop stds in this way, we've stopped all sorts of communicable diseases in this way. this is standard fare for our disease control units. we can stop this.

i don't think anyone disputes that we just need to sure to follow the protocol. >> my problem with this, though, is we continue to lack at this and say that by allowing flights to come into the united states, from these places, is an okay way to move forward. i just don't see how that makes any sense. i understand that we need to be compassionate and we already sent troops over there at a cost of a billion dollars of american taxpayer money. we spent a lot of money -- >> which is necessary. >> i understand that as long as they make sure that our troops are not in direct contact. they'll set things up and get out of there. i think the u.n. needs to chip in. what about the african union, they have troops there. i don't know why the u.s. has to this be at the forefront of it but we are and it's fine. >> i was going to ask, but all the nonpartisan disease control experts in the country say that we're at a greater risk if we shut down the borders. on what basis do you disagree? >> we're not a greater risk. from the a national security perspective i don't understand if you want to keep something contained in an area you continue to open the borders.

>> we're out of time. we have to wrap up. we can't do that, we won't do it. the administration is saying we won't do that. we will see if it changes but for now had these flights are coming in and out of the united states. appreciate you coming on the show, tara and marc, good to be with you. thanks so much. more u.s. troops are being send to ground zero of the ebola epidemic as we were just talking about, 4,000 of them, in fact. what is being done to protect them there and how does the fight against ebola relate to the fight against isis? a former army delta force pilot tells us next. [ male announcer ] tomcat bait kills up to 12 mice, faster than d-con. what will we do with all of these dead mice? tomcat presents dead mouse theatre. hey, ulfrik! hey, agnar! what's up with you? funny you ask.

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welcome back. nearly 7,500 cases are now reported in ebowl ha-affected countries in west africa. of that number nearly 3,500 people have died. those new numbers released by the world health organization on the same day that the pentagon announced more u.s. troops are being sent to west africa in the support of the fight against ebola. joining me now is colonel james reese, he served as an officer in the delta force and he's a cnn global affairs analyst. thank you for being here, sir, we appreciate it. >> thanks, poppy. >> the pentagon says as many as 4,000 u.s. troops could be sent to be on the ground in west africa to help and a lot of people want to know what exactly is their role there. what can you tell us? >> poppy, this is the role of

the u.s. military will be a core task which they call stability operations or capacity building. u.s. military has the ability to move quickly. they have the transportation. they have these time of cities that they can put up very quickly. they have engineers, communications specialists that they can come in, they can put it in the middle of the desert, they can put it in the middle of the jungle. it's a support facility for usaid. >> in terms of them they need to be incredibly, incredibly careful that none of them contract ebola. what type of precautions are being taken to ensure that happe happens? >> they'll have hazmat equipment and uniforms. soldiers are used to working in biologically contaminated environments but that's not what they're to do and i don't believe the military commanders will be there.

what they're going to be doing is setting up the base camps. making sure the power and communications is there and then let usaid do, then, what they have to do with the medical people and they'll step back and be in a supporting effort. >> we had a question come in to us from twitter. here's what was written. she wanted to know what happens when these 4,000 troops come home? are they quarantined? are they isolated for 21 days? just out of precaution. >> well, you know, one of the things we got to keep in mind is every unit in the military has medical personnel to travel with them. they'll be monitoring them all the times and i'm sure the pentagon and the division headquarters in these other brigade headquarters that are deploying in support of this will have a plan. if there's an isolation piece. my gut goes out and tells me that my bet is there's not going to be any type of chances where the soldiers will be interacting with any ebola people and they'll be a distance between them. >> and in terms of if they were a unit that you were leaving,

what would you say -- leading, rather, not leaving. what would you say to them? because this is different than probably any fight that they have taken on before. >> actually i disagree, poppy. i think it's things -- when we were in iraq in 2003, you know, all the conventional forces, even the special operations forces, we krocrossed the borde in our hazmat suits waiting for saddam to throw chemical warfare on us. these soldiers are trained. they know how to do this. they know how to protect themselves. this is what they live for. they'll get in very quickly. they'll be very professional. and we're the best in the world at doing it. >> yeah, we've heard the president say this is what america does. america leads, and that is why we are sending those up to 4,000 troops. final question for you, you have said you believe this mission is in some ways tied to the fight against isis. how so? >> well, poppy, you know, in today's world, in the information world, all of this

is intertwined and intermingled. we know after years and years in this global war on terrorism against, you know, what we're doing here with the jihad extremists, that there's transnational terrorism that's coming through africa, they are doing recruiting and all these time of bases. what we have to do, you'll hear win the hearts and minds, what we have to did is win the trust and confidence of people. so the u.s. going into west africa, setting these things up and helping the west africans, it shows a trust and confidence in them and what this could do, it could break away some of the recruiting base for isis in west africa that we've seen before in transnational terrorism. >> it's a really important point. we appreciate you and your time. thank you so much. lieutenant colonel james reese, thanks for joining us. we told you at the top of the hour about a very sick passenger who was removed from a plane at newark airport in new jersey and the cdc was called in to investigate. we will talk live to another passenger who was on that plane.

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we've heard so much about the ebola virus in the past couple of months, certainly there's been a lot of focus on it, and a lot of uncertainty surrounding the disease, how it is contracted and just how concerned the public should be. i want to bring in our experts to discuss this and frankly answer some of your questions.

dr. sima yasmin is here and dr. thomas geisberg is here to anxious your questions. thank you for being here. i want to ask you, dr. yasmin, mel wrote in saying why isn't this being treated the same way that sars was in vietnam and china? >> it's really because of the way that ebola is transmitted and although we are actually scared of this virus it's not as hardy as other viruses and it's less contagious so that's why this response feels so different to the public even though the virus sounds so scary so, again, just to go over that. ebola is transmitted through direct contact with infected bodily fluids things like blood and saliva and urine. it's not airborne. >> very important point to continue to making people because it is really scary and they get concerned if they are near someone what's going to happen. i want to go to you, tom, joanne wrote in this question, is this outbreak all the same strain,

she wrote, or if not, can different strains create a new superstrain? >> there are actually five different species of ebola virus. three of these cause significant morbidity and mortality in man. the particular species that is causing this outbreak in west africa is the zaire species. that is the most pathogenic. so, in other words, it has the highest case of fatality rates in humans. there are different strains within a species. so, it gets a little complicated. so this strain is slightly different than some of the other strains that we've seen, for example, in central africa. but basically very similar and we would expect that our vaccines that have been developed in laboratories would protect against this particular strain. you can never say never in science, i don't think that we would expect, you know, any significant problems or so far we haven't seen any substantial

mutations with this particular virus. >> okay. to you, dr. yasmin, tom was talking about what hablg developed to street this but we don't have any fda approved treatment or vaccine for ebola, so when it comes to the medical care for an ebola patient, what can doctors really do? >> what we do is called supportive treatment. doing things like giving people intravenous fluids and keeping them very well hydrated because it can cause organ failure, say somebody goes into kidney failure, then we put it on dialysis. the name of the game here is to keep the patient alive, support them for as long as possible so that the immune system can kick in and fight off this virus for itself. >> and, you know, we were just talking about this, tom, in the last -- in the last segment, should flights in and out of west africa be restricted? the xrd cdc is saying no. obviously the obama administration has -- has not mandated that whatsoever, but this question did come in.

why not ban flights from the hot zone for 21 days to see how many other cases arise from patient zero? what's your take? >> i mean, certainly, i'm not a politician or a government official, and so, you know, clearly if you stop flights, you would keep the virus from getting in the country. i don't think there's a question about that. but, you know, again, i'm a scientist. that's really a political question that probably a politician should answer. >> and then finally before i let you go, i know that your lab has been working on treatments for this, a number of different treatments. any success yet? >> yeah. we have several different vaccines, and several different treatments that can completely protect monkeys against ebola and, of course, nonhuman primates are the gold standard animal model for ebola. they get the same type of disease that humans get. we have several of these treatments, again, one is -- one called tkm-ebola. this was used to treat dr. sacra

who went to nebraska. we are working with the company that developed zmap and as your viewers may recall zmap was used to treat several different patients including the ones in atlanta. and then we've worked on a number of different preventive vaccines, so in other words giving someone a vaccine leak you would give, for example, childhood vaccination for measles or something like that. the nih is fast tracking or moving two different vaccines forward now. hopefully they will be in human trials soon. and, you know, hopefully in the near future these vaccines should be available to combat future outbreaks. >> let's certainly hope so. thank you both for your expertise. we appreciate it. >> thank you. and for our viewers, for more information on how you can help fight ebola go to cnn.com/impact. a mother and a father in indiana sent a direct message to the violent militants of isis today.

that message, please do not kill our son. they are talking about peter kassig, he's an aid worker who went to the middle east to help people displaced by syria's horrific civil war. he's been held hostage there now by isis for a year and yesterday he appeared in an isis video with a masked fighter who said that he was the next to die. our alexandra field is live for us in indianapolis right now and she's been following this story since the moment it broke last night talking to the people that know peter. what are they saying about him? >> reporter: poppy, their stomachs are in knots and that's putting it mildly. people across this city, across this country, frankly, they are hoping and praying for peter kassig's safe return but as we speak to the people that really know him we're trying to understand what this young man from indiana who grew up in indianapolis was doing in syria, why he felt so compelled to do the aid work that he was over there to carry out and they tell us that peter has always been someone who is deeply committed to serving, he's always wanted

to help people and those most in need. listen to what they said. >> well, i just remember him saying, like, he felt like had a bigger calling. he went to school at butler and he felt like he wanted to go out and do more for, you know, humanity just as a whole which was so inspiring for me, as a syrian, as an american with syrian roots, to see someone who cared so much about a people he technically didn't have any relation to. >> he talked a lot about his plans. he always wanted to do something that was bigger than his life as he said it. being parent of a bigger picture. >> reporter: peter kassig also served in the military. he deployed to iraq with the army rangers in 2007. after that, poppy, he came home to indiana. he spent some time in school and then he decided to pursue a completely different path. he trained to become an emt and after that he went overseas to provide medical relief and other humanitarian aid and this is something that he felt compelled to do even though these are

people that he truly had no immediate connection to. >> and do you know what, he told our arwa damon, alex, in 2012 when she interviewed him, we get one life and that's it. we get one shot at this and we don't get any do-overs. he was livings to the fullest and he is still to this day and his parents are clearly completely, completely distraught. i know they released a statement today directly to isis. >> reporter: yeah. they are desperate to do anything they can to bring their son home safely. just yesterday put out a statement mourning the loss of allen henning, the british aid worker who was brutally killed and now they are speaking on camera to isis and here's what these two parents are saying -- >> we know that the syrians are suffering. we also believe violence is not the solution to the problems that trouble us all. there is so much that is beyond our control. we've asked our government to change its actions, but like our son, we have no more control over the u.s. government than

you have over the breaking of dawn. >> most of all, know that we love you. and our hearts ache for you to be granted your freedom so we can hug you again and then set you free to continue the life you have chosen, the life of service to those in greatest need. we implore those who are holding you to show mercy and use their power to let you go. >> you can hear the pain, the heartbreak in their voices. their son has been missing for a year now. they have stayed away from the spotlight, but poppy, we do know they've been working with a large team quietly to secure the release of their son peter. >> our thoughts and our prayers are with them as they try to -- try. you can't mackge what it's like for them to go through, alexandra field, thank you, appreciate it. well, another medical condition has so far proven more deadly in the united states than ebola. the big reason for worry. this is a common virus that

infects millions in this country every year and some children are dying from it. we'll bring you their story from rosa flores next. ♪

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notice that this man was not feeling well and what did he tell authorities? >> we had about an hour left in the flight and he nudged me and said something and kind of incoherently, i didn't really under him, so i asked him to repeat it and he asked for help. asked me to call for a flight attendant. so i paged a flight attendant. at this time he had his head between his hands and kind of bent over in the seat and had his face covered with, like, a towel. when the flight attendant came he said that his eyes felt like they were floating and they were hurting really bad and he'd never felt that before. the flight attendant asked what would you like me to do, you know, is there something i can get for you or would you like me to see if there's medical personnel on board and he immediately said, yes, yes, do that. >> and can you tell me -- >> it was about an hour and a half left in the flight. oh, i'm sorry? >> can you tell me, rich, i know at some point he did talk to

authorities. they took his passport, et cete cetera. what did he tell the authorities in terms of where he was originally traveling from? >> so, once they came back to question him, another flight attendant came back, two came together and he described his symptoms again and the second flight attendant, said where are you originating from and he said liberia. >> he did say he was from liberia. tell me a bit about what happened when you landed. because we know that the cdc did get involved immediately. we saw these photos of officials coming on the plane. what were they wearing? what kind of protective gear were they wearing and what did they tell you and all the other passengers to do? >> so, originally while we were waiting for the cdc to come on board, the flight attendants had come back and said that we were in row 27 and the flight attendant said rows 25 through 28 would need to stay on the plane. on that side of the plane anyway and everyone else would be able

to deplane. and then she came on, they were wearing, like, a protective suit, face shield and a mask and rubber gloves, of course. and then they escorted him off the plane. him and his daughter. he had a young daughter with him. and it wasn't very long, i'm going to give you a guess because i'm not for sure, but it felt like maybe 15 or 20 minutes later they announced over the p.a. that everyone would be able to deplane including the people in rows 25 through 28 and that he was not contagious. >> okay. so they told you, you could all deplane and go home. did authorities tell you anything? obviously there's heightened awareness about the concern about ebola in this country. did they tell you anything about monitoring your symptoms? anything like that? any indication that he may be infected? >> they did not at that time. several hours later, after we got into the airport, i actually have global entry, so i go right

through customs, i was already in baggage, maybe ten minutes after we deplaned and they came across the loudspeaker and told all officers do not allow anyone from united airlines flight 998 to obtain their baggage or to leave. and then we were all -- about 35 of us had made it through customs. we were corralled in one area from what i was told the remaining passengers were corralled upstairs in newark airport and then we waited for hours and hours. >> so, that's interesting. you waited in the airport not on the plane. ultimately when authorities did let you leave with your baggage, did they say why? >> so, they did. we did get an announcement from a representative of the cdc that we were held as an ab babundanc caution. and we were asked to fill out information sheets to give our

full contact information and e-mail addresses, permanent addresses, et cetera, required us to turn those in and then gave us an information sheet on the signs and symptoms for ebola. >> okay. this -- cnn was told earlier today that this sick passenger, this man, was vomiting on the flight. i know it's not a pleasant thing to talk about but because of the way that this disease is transferred, did you see him vomit or do you believe that that happened in the bathroom where he was alone? >> i did not see it nor have any reason to know that he did. >> okay. >> once -- once they found out he was from liberia, they actually put a mask on him and his daughter and they escorted him behind -- somewhere behind me. they got him up out of the seat and took him somewhere towards the back of the plane but i have no idea where. it was actually behind me. >> and then what did you do right after that? how were you feeling?

>> very nervous obviously. they did open up the resting area for the flight attendants. they opened it up and allowed me to move across the aisleway to move away from him in the meantime before they got him moved. >> and it's important to remind our viewers, again, we do not know if ebola has anything to do with this. we are asking all of our sources, all the authorities, when we know, we will let our viewers know. and it's also important to know that ebola is not transmitted through the air. it's not transmitted just by touching someone. this is something that is transmitted by bodily fluids. are you concerned at all for your safety or do you feel like at this point in time you are fine? >> i feel fine. my concern is if they were something that were highly contagious we did not seem to have a very good reaction plan. i hope that we fully investigate this and find out how we respond to things like this as a government because we seem very uncoordinated in the airport.

many, and sometimes they were conflicti conflicting. so i hope we learn from it. >> rich, tell me a little bit about what other passengers on the plane were doing during all of this. and how they were reacting. i'm assuming you had, you know, young kids up to elderly people. >> the passengers in the hour and a half we sit in the plane -- i'm guessing hour and a half, were actually very patient until right towards the end. the captain was trying to calm people and let them know he could see medical personnel, et cetera. but nothing had been mentioned about why, other than there was a medical emergency. so people were -- they knew that there was more to the story. they were very patient, like i said, until right towards the end and then people started kind of getting upset. and then finally one of the flight attendants or i think it was the first officer maybe announced that they were waiting on the cdc to board the plane.

and then there was kind of a quiet hush that fell across the plane. >> now, sir, i know that you are flying to another state. and, you know, obviously some of the other passengers are connecting. were you told anything by authorities about, you know, air travel or any other precautions that you should take? i know they took your contact information down. but told anything else since you are traveling elsewhere? >> no. was not. >> okay. we appreciate you joining us, sir, very, very much. i know that we've taken your time. thank you for telling us all of this. we very much appreciate it. >> you're quite welcome. >> you take care. and we'll be right back. ♪ who's going to do it? who's going to make it happen? discover a new energy source. turn ocean waves into power. design cars that capture their emissions. build bridges that fix themselves. get more clean water to everyone. who's going to take the leap? who's going to write the code? who's going to do it?

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high-level talks in a few weeks. an even more rare sighting lately, kim jong-un. of the north korean leader has not been seen in public for a movement officials say he is suffering from discomfort. he had gained weight and was walking with a limp. i'm poppy harlow in new york. thanks for joining me this evening. i'll see you back here one hour from now. but "smerconish" starts in a moment. ♪ ♪

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