changed about the tumor that makes it look like it may be becoming more malignant. three, as you might guess, is that it is starting to cause some symptoms, starting to cause numbness or weakness on one side of the body, starting to cause blurriness of vision. if these things are starting to happen and are related to the tumor, that might be a reason to operate as well. if the tumor is entirely removed, which is often is, oftentimes nothing else needs to be done. fitsz if it's not entirely removed, the patient may need radiation tharm afterwards to address the remaining tumor. that's a little bit of what's maybe been happening with mary tyler moore over the last several years and most recently. "cnn newsroom" continues right now for randi kaye in for ali velshi. well, would you let an earthquake flant your home if it meant other homes survive? would you let a tornado rip through your neighborhood to spare a bigger neighborhood? ridiculous questions but replace earthquake and tornado with flood and that's pretty much the scenario along the surging

mississippi river. >> our hearts go out to everybody downstream. this is monumental water. never been seen before. >> that man flilives in morganz louisiana, home of the morganza spillway. it now seems likely that sometime over the weekend the army corp of engineers will open that structure for the first time since 1973 lessening the force and volume of the mighty mississippi, thus lessening the flood risks to the downstream cities of baton rouge and new orleans. but the water's got to go somewhere, and that somewhere is farmland and swamps. bayous and hamlets to the west and south. talking thousands of homes, maybe 25,000 people at the mercy of a no-win situation. river is still rising everywhere you see an the crest is really taking its time, still almost a week away from vicksburg. it is supposed to crest may 19th. also we have new orleans here. that's about ten days away. may 23rd it is supposed to

crest. and here is the morganza spillway. all right? right there. here's that -- this is the area also that we have, this area in red. that's the area that will be under several feet of water if the spillway is opened. these hundreds of thousands of acres might still flood but not nearly as much if the spillway stays closed. all right, enough with the maps. time now to meet the people who stand to lose their homes and livelihoods to the ravages of nature and the decisions of well meaning humans. here's cnn ed lavendera. >> reporter: tucked away in the shade of louisiana cypress trees and back water creeks, you'll have a hard time fighti ining b la rose. >> i put that sign up about two months ago and i've always wanted to name the camp last dance. >> reporter: the music has stopped and pierre -- >> don't know why i'm locking it. >> reporter: -- is packing it all up before the floodwaters

wash over butte la rose. >> i had a big table in here. i had a few ton over here. th this was cabinets. 70% of the people are packed up and gone. >> it is going to be a ghosttown pretty soon. >> yeah. >> reporter: it has been home to an eclectic mix of caken encaju. >> what's it like to be around here knowing what's coming down the river? >> it's just a somber mood. everybody's just doing what they got to do. >> reporter: his bayou community will soon be flooded. >> i'm going to get three to four foot of water. >> reporter: but pierre is about to learn that the floodwaters will likely be worse than anything he imagined. pierre and hundreds of butte larose residents pack into the town's firehouse to hear flood level predictions from the army

corp of engineers. >> i'm telling you, depth of water from right here, 15 feet. okay? someone can reach up 15 feet, that's probably up to the roof of this building. >> he said there's going to be 15 foot of water. it's over with. it's over with. >> reporter: it's over, for butte larose, the words too painful for people to hear. >> it's going to be a strong current. >> reporter: as pain turns to anger. >> everybody please listen! >> reporter: colonel ed fleming offers a little comfort. >> in 22 years i've moved 14 times. you might have a box. you might have some important documents. you might have some pictures. some keepsake things. because those are things we're going to put in the car when you're standing in your driveway with your family and a couple of suitcases and a box. that's when you found out what's important to you. >> reporter: and the sadness of the moment brings kelly trimm to

tears. >> it is really worse than we thought. we thought we might have water in our yard. this is going to come into our homes. it is going to take everything we've got. >> reporter: pierre knows it is time to pack up the dance floor and put butte larose in his rear-view mirror. but he'll be back. >> it's not going to be the last dance. >> you don't think so? >> no. no. we'll dance again around here. >> reporter: and the sign will be the last thing he grabs on the way out of town. ed lavendera, cnn, butte, larose, louisiana. >> general russel honore joins me by phone from baton rouge. general, we've just been talking about the cost of opening the morganza spillway. remind us, if you will, of the cost of not opening it? >> well, it's a worst case scenario if you don't open it.

and the reason that morganza spillway is there, exactly for this reason. when the pressure gets on the mississippi river levees to open that up and go out through the spillways, randi. as a result of lessoned learned from the flood of 1927, 1912 and 1937 because baton rouge and new orleans will flood if we don't open up that spillway. >> take me through the decision process. it can't be an easy thing to decide. are there cold, hold calculations of property and population considered when making a decision like this? >> you bet, randi. the places that are now in louisiana, most of them were unprotected because they were built on the roadside of the levee, meaning they were built into the spillway or on the require side of the levee. many of those are recreational camps but the bigger risk, randi, we've got a nuclear power

plant which is right across the river from morganza on the mississippi river. and in baton rouge you've got the exxon refinery, the second largest refinery in the country that provide a lot of fresh gas to the nation. in baton rouge, a city of over 300,000, we've got a couple dozen chemical plants that are very critical to the industrial capacity of our nation because they provide enabling petro chemicals for plants to be opened. and of course, the city of new orleans. all of that is at rick that we don't open at morganza. they need to be opened tomorrow. i hope general wallace and general fleming is listening to the people and they go ahead and open it tomorrow. the corp of engineers done a great job up to this point in keeping the confidence of the people and the big thing now is to get that spillway opened at morganza. >> general, what do you advise people in baton rouge or new orleans or butte larose.

>> butte larose, i think they've already been definitively given a map. people in baton rouge and south of i-10 need to stay aware of the news. they need to be prepared particularly between south of i-10 in baton rouge toward the river. oh, by the way, that's where my new home is. that's where i live. be prepared if there's flooding from some of the tributaries that might back in or if there's a boil that creates some localized flooding. that could disrupt interstate transportation and movement between baton rouge and new orleans. so people need to stay aware, they need to have a three-day supply of food and water at home. roads could close even though they have shelter at home. that's the basic doctrine of the red cross. >> general hon raore, good to sk with you on such a grave topic. >> let's pray for the best and be prepared for the worst. >> absolutely.

thank you, general. in the days after the raid that killed osama bin laden, the world was captivated, even hungry for more details on the operation on bin laden's last moments and on s.e.a.l. team six. those details kept trickling out from the president, the pentagon and other top officials close to the operation. but that has cast an unwanted spotlight on a s.e.a.l. team who by its very nature must remain elusive. listen to what defense secretary robert gates says about how this all unraveled and growing concerns over security. >> frankly, a week ago sunday in the situation room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin laden. that all fell apart on monday, the next day. the one thing i would tell you though is that i think there has been a consistent and effective effort to protect the identities

of those who participated in the raid and i think that has to continue. we are very concerned about the security of our families, of your families and our troops, and also these elite units that are engaged in things like -- >> the question now is does too much information compromise the security of the navy s.e.a.l.s and their families. we'll ask some people who are in the know next. [ male announcer] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible. at usaa, this is our executive committee. this is our advisory board.

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they're somewhat of a blame game playing out right now in washington and it all centers around one question -- was too much information given out about the navy s.e.a.l.s involved in the mission that killed osama bin laden. defense secretary gates says yes, too much information was leaked out about the mission. as you just heard in our "sound effect" moments ago. now we're hearing about security concerns for the families of the s.e.a.l.s involved in that mission. gates went on to comment on that as well. listen. >> whether i met with the team last thursday, they expressed a concern about that and particularly with respect to their families and so we're -- as you say, i can't get into the details in this forum, but we are looking at what measures can be taken to pump up the security. >> so how much information is

too much? let's discuss this with cnn's reliable sources host howard kurtz, debby lee, founder of the group "america's mighty warriors," and cnn's national security contributor, fran townsend. first, let's take you back to the night of may 1st when we first heard president obama report the news of the death of osama bin laden. then we'll talk. >> today, at my direction, the united states launched a targeted operation against that compound in abbottabad, pakistan. a small team of americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. no americans were harmed. they took care to avoid civilian casualties. after a firefight, they killed osama bin laden and took custody of his body. >> okay. so that night was the first time that we heard some limited details about the mission. howard, let me start with you. should the buck have stopped there? >> well, maybe. but 15 minutes after the president spoke, i was on a

conference call with white house officials who were giving out a fair number of details about this mission and the next day, john brennan, the counterterrorism chief, was brought before the cameras and talk more about it. seems to me that bob gates' beef here is not with the press even though we've been very voracious for details about just what went down in pakistan. but with his own administration colleagues, he says we had an agreement in the situation room not to say much about this and that fell apart. >> i want to talk about monday, may 2nd, during the white house briefing. because you brought it up, howard. that day that we heard from press second tar jay carney and john brennan, deputy national security advisor and he told us even more about this mission. listen to what he said, then we'll get more reaction. >> we were able to monitor the situation in realtime and were able to have regular updates and to ensure that we had realtime visibility in the progress of

the operation. not going to go into details about what type of visuals we had or what kind of leads were there but we could track it on an ongoing basis. >> then of course, all the details eventually came out about s.e.a.l. team six and who -- at least what they were -- what their capabilities were, that they had these helicopters. all of that detail eventually came out. debbie, do you think that was telling public too much about who exactly was involved in this operation? >> i think it very much was. you know, the navy s.e.a.l.s have he should the title as the quiet professionals and that's what they do. they go in, they are successful in their missions, they get out and nobody even knows that they've been there. we as an american people, i'm a very proud mother of a navy s.e.a.l. who willingly sacrifices his life for this country. i have adopted boys. they call me mama lee. i am so proud of them and what

they accomplished. it is our national instinct to want to praise them, to sing their praises and who they are and what they do, but we should not even have known, as an american population, we shouldn't have even known it was the naycy s.e.a.l.s that went in. >> fran, i want to bring you in. howard has said he doesn't think they're pointing fingers at the media for asking too many questions, but how do you think this happened? do you think too many details were let out to the public? >> i do, randi. but i think we have to distinguish between the official briefings by jay and john brennan which howie referred to, and then all of the excruciating level of detail that's leaked out. every administration typically will do an on-the-record briefings after a major incident or operation like that. and so john brennan actually in the clip we played said he was not going to discuss the details of it. after the fact, there have been tons of details that have come out that i think are damaging. to the extent people can learn

about the tactics, the training of the navy s.e.a.l.s and our special operations forces, it makes it more dangerous for them in the future. >> i think, fran, there is two different collisions going on here. on the one hand, the administration understandably wants to take some political credit for what was a very gutsy call by president obama and a very successful mission. that's why i think you see a lot of this leaking which also keeps the story alive. at the same time i couldn't agree more that the operational details for future missions an certainly for protecting the identities of those on the team involved, many of those should probably remain secret. of course if administration officials weren't whispering this to reporters we would have no way of publishing it or airing it. >> i do want to point out that we just got some information from the chief of naval operations. he's telling cnn this afternoon that he is absolutely confident -- those are his words -- that the families of the navy s.e.a.l.s will be protected. so those involved in the raid on the compound will be protected.

i also want to share this with you. former cia counterterrorism analyst spoke to eliot spitzer last night and said quite frankly that the white house administration said too much. let's listen to what he said as well. >> i think this administration at least in the white house is out of control. the information about the stealth helicopters, the information about the cia safehouse, the details about bin laden's habit, his plannings, his contacts, all of that compromise further operations -- are going to make further operations harder, more difficult, probably more bloody and i think it is really adolescent to think that this information came from the white house press office. it would never have this classified level of information. if it came anywhere, it was from john brennan's office, the czar for counterterrorism. >> so, fran, is he right? you know how this all works inside the white house. does the blame fall on john brennan's office? >> look, i was with john brennan today who was himself sort of

suggesting his own frustration with the leaks. what happens here -- i don't believe it's john brennan's office. and information that comes out of the individual advisors doesn't come out without there being coordination across the inner agency. just don't buy that at all. what happens is this information resides down inside most of the agencies. so what will happen, it is a frustration to every administration, individuals will begin to leak things, not because they're being authorized to do it, but to prove that they have some access, to prove their own credibility with the press. and it is a frustration. it is very difficult to get a handle on for john brennan or the white house. >> quickly, debbie, i want to bring you in one more time here because you want you to react to this chief of naval operations telling cnn just a short time ago that the families of the s.e.a.l.s who were involved in that operation are -- he's absolutely confident that they can be protected. do you believe that? >> well, i know that the terrorists would like nothing better than to retaliate to take

our navy s.e.a.l.s and special forces out. i know when mark was over there they had extranmoney incentives if one of the terrorists could take out a navy s.e.a.l. these are the best that america has to offer and we need to protect them at all cost and i know the navy s.e.a.l. community is a very special community and we very much protect our own and i know they will be doing those things to be able to protect not those amazing warriors and their families. i am so proud of all of them, the sacrifice that they make and who they are. it's all of our military. to continue to fight for us and to continue to make sacrifices. i am so proud of all of them and i know that our troops will do what it takes to protect us. >> howard, very quickly, any lesson here that the media can learn or any of us can take away from this? >> well, if anybody in the administration has said don't remember certain details in order to protect future missions or certainly the identity of the navy s.e.a.l.s within think journalists and news organizations would have gone along with that. it is the opposite though, this

thing is being shoveled out the door, maybe but authorized people, maybe by people who had a political motive for wanting to keep this story going. >> we will leave it there. howard, debbie, fran, appreciate it. good discussion. if a dealership sold you a car with no brakes, then took a life insurance policy out on you, you'd probably be demanding criminal charges. next, we'll talk to someone who says that's exactly what goldman sachs did to its clients without standing trial. of beef tenderloin, don't you? you inspired a very special dog food. [ female announcer ] chef michael's canine creations. chef inspired. dog desired.

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carl levin's senate committee says it has enough evidence to move forward with criminal charges against goldman sachs. our own eliot spitzer says that he'd be dropping subpoenas by the truck loads. yet the justice department seems reluctant to move forward. earlier today ali velshi talked about the case against goldman with matt taibi, contributor editor at rolling stone. >> it is perfectly legal for a dealership to sell me a car that i'm not going to like or is too expensive for me. what it is not legal is for them to sell me a car that isn't what they've represented it as. we've set certain legal minimum standards. it is argued he's gone through these documents and said a lot of these things were disclosed, that in fact goldman laid out in

very lengthy detail all of the ways in which this could go wrong. i have not read the disclosure documents personally so i can't -- >> i have. >> there's at least two competing versions of this story. >> matt, you've read them? >> i've read all the documents in this report and also talk to some of the principals in this entire story. i definitely know that some of the clients that goldman was talking to were completely blindsided by the fact that, for instance, they were buying assets out of goldman's own book when they were told goldman was buying these assets off the street. they definitely did not make key disclosures that they were legally obligated to make. >> i think matt wants to see a perp walk, see someone arrested from goldman. clearly whether you think goldman broke any laws, any of us who followed this got the impression that they perhaps were not dealing in the best interests of some of their clients. >> i think they probably aren't, just like most vendors aren't always -- like look to their own interests before the interests of their clients. but here's the thing.

like i think that there is a sort of real desire to have a sense of closure on this, a desire to track down a villain, figure out who did this to us and i think that really underweights the power of human stupidity. greed, stupidity and poor system design can produce really terrible results even without -- >> how are you not ashamed to do the job that you do? how are you not ashamed to apologize for billionaires that ripped off ordinary people? >> haej fund is not an ordinary person. i can't believe that you -- >> morgan stanley took a $10 billion bailout from the taxpayer. ergo they ripped us off. how do you answer that? >> how do i answer that? i think in fact they do deals with big banks. there's questions about how we should have done those bailouts. but the fact is it's not goldman sachs' responsibility to make sure morgan standy makes money. >> for the rest of this great conversation, don't miss "your money" with ali velshi.

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george mitchell, the special mideast envoy, is going to be stepping down. it seems like awful timing to say the least, but it also raises real sharp questions about whether there's any progress for the white house to hang its hat on at all. if george mitchell felt like they were close to any kind of a peace deal he would not be stepping down right now, randi. >> that certainly appears to be true. what about ousted egyptian president hosni mubarak. he was supposed to be a key figure in these peace talks. do we know how much his lack of participation has hurt the process? >> reporter: that is a great point to raise, because the last time this president was really publicly actively engaged in the peace process was last september here at the white house. he brought the zerisraelis and palestinians together. but right in the center of that photo was then-president mubarak. he's now obviously long gone as president of egypt. we've heard for years and years that he was one of the pillars in terms of bringing stability to the region, bringing the parties together. he's not in the picture anymore.

so that raises more questions about the ability to broker mideast peace but also brings back that broader question of what can the president say next thursday to provide some hope for the region that the u.s. can help pick up all of these pieces. >> ed, i have to ask you about this. what about this libyan opposition leader? he's meeting with the american national be security advisor today in the west wing at the white house? >> that's right. >> is this a sign that the white house is moving closer to formal recognition of the rebels in libya? >> well, they incysisinsist tha they're not formally ready to recognize the rebels. the white house has been aligning themselves with the rebels but dr. jabril will meet with the white house's national security advisor. jay carney says that the president is not planning to drop by. that would obviously raise the stakes even higher. the president does that sometimes, drops by meetings like that, even if it is not a formal one-on-one with him.

they say right now he's not planning to do that but this is the first time this opposition leader has been in the west wing of the white house. whether they formally recognize the rebels or not, this raises the stakes and shows the u.s. is trying to put ever more pressure on moammar gadhafi right now. >> just real quickly, we've been talking a lot about secretary gates' concerns about the amount of leaked information about the raid on bin laden's compound. is the white house saying anything about gates' comments today? >> reporter: they're pushing back at the notion that secretary gates was pointing the finger at anyone here at the white house. they say, look, the president agrees with secretary gates that unauthorized leaks in recent days about some of the intelligence operation at the bin laden compound has infuriated the president, too. but nevertheless, there are people reading secretary gates' comments closely and wondering whether john brennan or others here at the white house were kind of in the crosshairs of leaking out too much information, not just the private information but you remember john brennan was at the

podium here at the white house a week or so ago, said some things that didn't turn out to be true in the end. it just shows the bottom line that it has not been smooth in terms of the rollout of some of the details of that operation. but at the end of the day they still got bin laden and they think a lot of the rest of this, frankly, is a distraction. >> all right, ed henry for us on the stakeout at the white house, thank you, ed. >> have a good weekend. >> you, too! in vietnam, many many pov risched kids flock to the city for opportunity. hear how one cnn hero is rescuing children from the streets. ♪

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the attack. >> reporter: this here is the military training facility that was the target for this attack. now two suicide bombers on the backs of motorcycles came in here in the early hours of the morning, detonated those explosives. they have targeted military recruits that have been training here for the past nine months. they finished their training and they were about to leave when this attack happened. if you look around here, you can see so much of the aftermath of this dual suicide bombing. you can see cars strewn along the road here that have been blown out. a lot of damaged buildings up in here. this is the worst attack of its kind for this year in pakistan. the number of dead has continued to rise throughout the day. scores more people have been wounded and injured and they've been ferried to hospital. people have been milling around here just pondering exactly what happened. and we've had a warning now from the taliban to expect more. they have accepted

responsibility for this attack. they have linked it directly to the killing of osama bin laden. they are saying that this is revenge for his death and they are warning, as i say, both pakistan and the united states to expect more. this whole area is a hotbed of insurgency. al qaeda and taliban militants have been hold out here and the military has been continuing to mount offensives to continue to root them out. as you look around here today, just looking at this damage, you can still see the potency of the insurgen insurgency, that despite these attacks and despite the operations here by the military, the taliban is still potent and they're warning there is more to come. stan grant, cnn, pakistan. in syria, thousands of anti-government protesters took to the streets of several cities again today facing off against armed troops and tanks. witnesses say in homs, security

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welcome back. ten minutes before the hour. it is the final day of this week's report on the fast company magazine article, the united states and innovation. one idea from every state that's helping build the cities of america's future. joining me now, jeff chu, editor and writer at "fast company." company" and jeff, thank you for being on the show again today. the first state on the list today, because we are working lu the alphabet is south carolina. what do you like in south carolina? >> we like pinpoint public works, and it is a program that's used be i the city of clemson to make its sanitation department work more efficiently and effectively and save fuel. so they have taken a gps platform and given to the sanitation workers to log when there is a pile of debris or pothole that needs to be fixed, an nen td then the next day the puts together a to-do map to save them miles and run more

efficiently. >> a gps to pinpoint garage. every city should have that. that is great. what about in south dakota? >> south dakota, we went to sioux falls, where there is a long-term project called the phillips to the falls revit lieization, and we picked this one because the lesson is long-term investment. they havic taen a junk yard and turned it into a park and restored his toistoric building more usable spaces in a collaborate way, and they have turned a section of downtown that is something more beautiful than it used to be. >> i know so many of othese that you were impressed by that you had to whistle the list down, so what did you find in tennessee? >> in tennessee, it is something called knoxville overground in knoxville. there are a lot of people self-employed and social entrepreneurs and the work is valuable, but it can be lonely, so what knoxville overground has done is to create a shared workspace where people can come

together to collaborate and held workshops and seminars and recorded podcasts so that folks who are self-employed or working in the creative industries can come together and collaborate and not be on their own all of the time and create together. >> and what is it in texas that made your list? >> texas is one of my favorites. houston in the third ward, there have been a lot of abandoned row houses, and project row houses has taken some of the row houses and turned them into live/work spaces for artists as well as exhibition space. it is a bigger lunch pad for-- launchpad for more creative workers. >> that is a point to make out that the people on the list is art to tech to all kinds of things, right? >> we tried for a broad diversity to show everybody that innovation comes in every industry, and innovation comes in every state. we wanted people to really think beyond just tech. this is about all kinds of

things from art to dance to anything that you can put your mind to. >> and what was it in utah? >> utah was the clear the air challenge. this is something that salt lake city is doing every summer now to encourage people to drive less, to telecommute and car poole more so that the prizes for the challenge can include things like lunch with the mayor, gift certificates to local restaurants and public transit passes. last year's winner, ryan parker, he saved 667 gal lonlons of gas 100,000 pounds of emissions which tells you that he drives a lot in a month. >> that is serious. of all of the great ideas that we looked at this week, do you have a favorite? >> i have a couple of favorites. like the texas project, and i also like the trey mcintyre project in boise, idaho. this is an avant-garde dance troupe which has built itself

into a community institution and it is surprising. that is what i like about it most. you don't expect to find and avant-garde dance troupe to be embraced by a city like boise. >> well, jeff, i enjoyed having you on the show everyday and i got used to it, so we will have to find something else to talk about in the weeks ahead. >> thank you. see you soon. >> well, if you didn't see your state today or you want to learn more about the united states of innovation, go to cnn.com/ali. and if you want to know more, tune in next week for the same big i time at the same big i channel. and barack obama is called the most successful food stamp president in history. hot news coming off of the cnn political ticker next.

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feel that way, and the views are controversy saying that he would have executed the osama bin laden operation differently than president obama did. and moving on to be newt gingrich on his first official day as a candidate. he said today, this is the most happiest and positive campaign of my life and then he lashed into president obama, randi. he said that president obama is the most successful food stamp president in history. he was talking about in terms of not providing jobs to a lot of people. newt gingrich said you can expect in his words for president obama to run a quote chicago-style campaign. randi? >> and meanwhile, shannon, the president today is celebrating his team's big win? >> that is right. okay. so last night i was up late, i admit, watching the chicago bulls and the atlanta hawks. i'm from chicago, and chicago lost, boo hoo, but obviously president obama was watching closely as well.

he spoke to a reporter from miami yesterday, and said of course that he hoped that chicago won, but when the miami reporter said, hey, president obama, what are you willing to wager on a possible chicago and miami game, and he said hot dogs, and the reporter said cuban fritas which are a spicy cuban hamburger. >> and the bulls won? >> yes, didn't i is a they? the bulls won so they will face the heat sunday. >> so you are happy? >> i'm very happy. >> all right. shannon, thank you. appreciate it. >> you got it. the next political update from the best political team on from the best political team on television is one hour away. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we begin this hour with the apparent revenge of the death of osama bin laden. in pakistan, the pakistani

taliban are claiming responsibility for killing train training members of the military who were training. and they warn that it is the pakistani and the u.s. forces should be ready for more attacks. i want to bring in my cnn colleague who has reported extensively on this region. tim lister. aim so gl i am so glad you are here the talk about this, because of the expert you are in this area. tell me about the taliban in pakistan, and who are they? >> they are not the same as the afghanle taliban. they grew up in different circumstances. after 9/11, george w. bush said to the pakistanis, you are either with us or against us, and that pushed the pakistanis into tribal territories to deal with the arab fighters and the foreigners who were there who

belong belonged tole a cade. once they were there, they aliena alienated a lot of the local people, and gradually, the pakistani taliban were formed. they came together formally speaking in 2007, and at time a couple of years after that, they were really close to islamabad, and they had areas of control less than 60 miles of the capital of islamabad, and they have become a more powerful organization over the last two to three years. >> that is how they emerged. do they have ties to al qaeda or the afghan taliban? >> absolutely they do. and particularly closely allied with the taliban of al qaeda. because of circumstance mostly. al qaeda suffered from the drone attack, and the pakistani taliban have been forced into an alliance because of the attacks by the pakistani army. but it is like they have become the armed wing of al qaeda. they are much more widespread in pakistan, and they have grown up, because if you like of institutional inertia, and by the time the pakistani

authorities realized how dangerous they were, it was too late. they have driven them out of one or two areas, but they are strong in the borderland areas with afghanistan and close to where the explosion took place today and also have begun to spread out the tentacles not just in pakistan, but overseas, too. >> that is not sounding like good news. and what about in terms of the pakistan, itself, how much of a danger as we see them spreading throughout pakistan and doing something like they are taking credit for today. how much of a danger are they? >> they are a danger to the authority of the state of pakistan, because they have spread out into the pakistani heartland and into punjab, and also as part of the mandate, if you like, to begin sectarian discord by bombing shrines and taking on the shia group, and that is very much al qaeda's mantle as well. that is what they did in iraq going after the shia. so it is a very dangerous brand of sunni, very conservative and very austere and very much

attached to the sort of al qaeda wahhabi ideology, no music, the women must stay indoors and the like, and very close ideologically to what al qaeda espouses. >> is this their m.o. and what they are capable of doing or other tactics as well? >> well, other tactics, but this is typical. no accident they went after the frontier corps, because they had been responsible in all of the tribal territories for taking on the pakistani taliban and al qaeda and this is specifically an attack on them. it could be from one emir if you like from one tribal agency where the army has been busy lately. it should be stressed that the pakistani taliban are not cohesive organization led by mullah omar. they are not. they are fractured, but at the same time they have warlords who are capable of inflicting a lot of of damage on pakistan, and especially in the northwest, but

in places like lahore and karachi, too. >> they don't have a bin laden, say, one strong leader? >> if they have one, it is a man who appeared next to the jordanian suicide bomber who killed the cia employees. he appeared next to him in a video that was recorded before that happened to show that the pakistani taliban was ready to start operations beyond the immediate pakistani hinterland and last year in new york the times square bombing was carried out from a man who had training from the pakistani taliban and not al qaeda, but the pakistani taliban. >> it is interesting to hear from al qaeda and al shabab groups, but now the pakistani taliban. we have to continue the discussion, because it is fascinating. tim lister, thank you. sgloot >> in the days after the raid that killed osama bin laden, the world was hungry about details of the operation and bin laden's last moments and s.e.a.l. team

six. and the details kept trickling out from the president and the pentagon and others close to the operation, but it is casting an unwanted spotlight on the s.e.a.l. team who by the very natu nature must remain elusive. this is the sound effect for today. listen to robert gates about how this unravel and the growing concerns over security. >> frankly, a week ago sunday in the situation room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin laden. that all fell apart on monday. the next day. the one thing i would tell you though is that i think that there has been a consistent and effective effort to protect the identities of those who participated in the raid, and i think that -- >> so the question now is does too much information compromise the navy s.e.a.l.s and their families? some feedback from people who are in the know next.

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there is somewhat of a blame game being played out in washington and it centers around one question, was too much information given out about the navy s.e.a.l.s involved in the mission that killed osama bin laden? last hour i posed that question to cnn reliable host how wart kurtz and we will tell you about na in a moment. first, i want to talk to you about education. soledad o'brien has a wonderful

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security contributor fran townsend. here is part of that discussion. >> let's go back to may 1st when president obama announceded the death of osama bin laden, and then we will talk. >> today, at my direction, the united states launched a targeted operation against that compound in abottabad, pakistan. a small team of americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. no americans were harmed. they took care to avoid civilian casualties. after a firefight, they killed osama bin laden, and took custody of his body. >> okay. so that night was the first time that we heard some limited details about the mission. howard, let me start with you, should the buck have stopped there? >> well, maybe. but, you know, 15 minutes after the president spoke, i was on a conference call with the white house officials who were giving out a fair number of details about this mission, and the next day john brennon the

counterterrorism chief was talking into the cameras, and it seems that bob gates beef here is not with the press even though we have been voracious about the details of just what went down in pakistan, but with his own administration colleagues and he said, we had an agreement in the situation room not to say much about this, and that fell apart. >> i will get to the others in a second here, but i want to talk about monday may 2nd during the white house briefing, because you brought it up, howard, that day we heard from the press secretary jay carney and deputy security adviser john brennan and we heard more about the mission, and so let's listen to what he said and then more reaction. >> we were able to monitor the situation in realtime and able to have a regular updates and to ensure that we were had realtime visibility into the progress of the operation. i won't go into details about what type of visuals we had or what type of pieces that were

there, but it gave us the ability to track on an ongoing basis. >> and then the details of s.e.a.l. team six came out and ha their capabilities were and the helicopters and all of the detail came out eventually. debbie, was that telling the public too much about exactly who was involved in the operation? >> i think that it very much was. you know, the navy s.e.a.l.s have earned the title of quiet professionals and that is what they do. they go in and they are successful with the mission and get out and nobody knows that they have been there. and we, as an american people, i'm a very proud mother of a navy s.e.a.l. who sacrificed his life for the country. i have adoptive boys who call me mama lee, and i'm so proud of them and what they accomplish, and so we want to praise them and sing their praises and who they are and what they do, but we should not know them.

the american population should not know the navy s.e.a.l.s. >> and fran, i want to bring you in, because howard said they are certainly not pointing fingers at the media for asking too many question, but how do you think this happened? too many details were let out to the public? >> i do, randi. but i think that we have to distinguish between the official briefings by jay and john brennan which howie referred to and then all of the excruciating level of detail that has leaked out. every administration typically will do and on the record briefing after a major incident or operation like that. so, john brennan in the clip we played said he was not going to discuss the details of it. after the fact, tons of details that have come out that are damaging, and to the extent that the people can learn about the tactics and the training of the navy s.e.a.l.s and the special operations forces, it is very dangerous and makes it more dangerous for them future. >> but, fran, two collisions are

going on here. on the one hand, the administration understandably wants to take some political credit for what was a gutsy call by president obama and a successful mission, and that is why you see a lot of this leaking which keeps the story alive, but i could not agree more that the future operational missions and protecting the identities of the team that were involved, many of those should remain secret and if the officials of the administration would not be whispering it to reporters we would not know it. >> we got something from the chief of naval operations, and he is telling cnn this afternoon that he is absolutely confident, his words, that the families of the navy s.e.a.l.s will be protected. so, those involved on the raid in the compound will be protected. and i want to share this with you, michael shoyer spoke to

eliot spitzer and he said that the white house said too much. let's listen to this. >> well, the white house administration is out of control, sir. the information about the stealth helicopters and the cia safehouse and the details of bin laden's habit and the plannings and his contacts and all of that compromised a further operations, going to make the future operations more difficult and bloody and it is really adolescent to think that this information came from the white house press office. it would never have this classified level of information. if it came from anywhere, it is john brennan's office, the czar for counterterrorism. >> so, fran, is he right? you know how all of this works inside of the white house. does the blame fall on john brennan's office? >> look, i was with john brennan today, who was himself sort of suggesting that his frustration with the leaks. what happens here and i don't believe it is john brennan's office and information that comes out of the individual advisers does not come out

without coordination across the interagency, so i don't buy that at all. what happens is that this information resides down inside of most of the agencies, so what will happen, and it is a frustration to every administration, and individuals will begin to leak things not because they are being authorized to do it b toit, but prove they have access or prove their credibility with the press. it is a frustration and difficult to get a handle on for john brennan or the white house. last hour, chief of naval operations told cnn that he is confident that the families of the s.e.a.l.s involved in that operation will be protected. i wanted to reiterate that so that you will know that at home. and the worst of the floods is over. severe weather expert chad myers joining joining us next. get a code to... ...a 7 day plan to get going on your summer weight loss. get the box. get the code. get started!

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severe weather expert chad myers joins us now, and what can we expect when we watch these floods and a lot of people want to know where it is headed. >> well, we are getting more rainfall in places where it is flooding. last night memphis, looking here, backing up 12 hoursk raining through memphis and now the weather is making a severe weather watch box over atlanta, georgia, and most georgia even into tennessee and now there is more bad weather moving back into memphis right now, and more thunderstorms and a new watch box for people who are already flooded. they need that like, you know what they need. >> yeah. >> you know what we will do though? >> what? >> we are going to cut the

weather short and go to the otr, off the radar. >> yes. >> and so much about the bonnet carre spillway which dumps a lot of water into the morganza spillway. i hate to not explain what is going on here. so there is a spillway across there and we have video of it, and go ahead to roll the tape, because eddie lavendara was there yesterday. that is not open. that is closed. >> wow. >> that is what happens there, because you can't keep water back when you have all of the water up against there. when they open, if they open that water levee there, that spillway, the water will pour into the south and southeastern louisiana. there's the spillway. hit it. it is going to be all of the way down here, and the levees will keep it in at least for a little while all of the way down to morgan city, but a big area here will be flooded. we are talking about farmland, and winter wheat not out of the

ground yet and talking about rice still there going to be ruined and talking about further down oyster beds and fish camps here. >> it is not just about the water, but a huge economic impact as well? >> well, this water is to be brakish and salty, too. you will kill some of the oyster beds, because the oysters cannot live in pure fresh water and that the come and go and come and go and i-10 goes right across the spillway and don't know if they will close that, too. but this town, if you see this, the army corps of engineers said beaut -- butte larose. and that is protected be alevee wall system, but east of, there amelia is not so protected. this is the back area here, and that town will be certainly probably will called devastated. >> this has not been opened since 1973, right?

>> right. it does not open often. over to new orleans with this great map we have, and this is what is going to happen. this is where the water will be. now, what does that mean? put the legend on here, and if you see orange that is 20 feet of water and the yellow is 15 feet of water, and that is the town, butte larose and then it flattens down into the gulf of mexico, and only five feet of a water there. and let's go to something more scary and pretend nothing is done, and there is no levees or floodwall and there is nothing to keep anything back. this is, this river right here, and that is what new orleans would look like. and i can do one better to zoom into better. if they did not close the walls or no levee existed, new orleans under water again by 10 to 15 feet of water. that is not going happen, because there are levees and there are walls and doors, but

think about what that would mean by that flood. that is how impressive this flood is, and how big it is, because this town new orleans would be completely underwater again without that protection. >> and if they open up the spillway, it would happen to other towns which is a tough decision as general honore was saying. >> well, let's hope there are no flaws down here with the levees. >> thank you, chad. that was cool to help us understand it better. get ready for celebrity math. what is the square root of 6.9 minus charlie sheen and who or what is the common denominator? the tall and dark and handsome answer is in 60 seconds. ss than. selectquote found, rich, 37, a $500,000 policy for under $18 a month. even though dave, 43, takes meds to control his

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let's get you caught up on today's headlines and other news that you might have missed. the flooding along the mississippi river is slowly leaving a widespread path of destruction as it snakes southward through arkansas and mississippi. these are the towns where the river will crest in the coming days. the focus right now is ahead of the flood's crest in louisiana as nay is done in other states, the army corps of engineers is considering opening up a major spillway and flooding nearby communities to spare larger cities like baton rouge and new orleans. that means that hundreds of people in southeast louisiana could lose their homes, and many are already evacuating. the flood has left thousands homeless in the midwest and the south. u.s. intelligence officials were able to interrogate the three widows of osama bin laden who were inside of the compound when he was killed. that includes his young wife who

charged the s.e.a.l.s and was shot in the leg. but the three women who were interviewed together were hostile towards the americans. the eldest of the three spoke for the group as several members of pakistan's intelligence agency stood in the room. the u.s. intelligence agencies say that the wives gave up little information, but they may question the women again. would you want to buy anything from the unabomber? you remember ted kaczynski, now 68, killed people between 1978 and 1985. take a look at these items that u.s. marshals are auctioning online. the money will help to compensate the victims. people can bid over 60 items over a two-week period. and other items are his driver's license and birth certificates and checks and school transcript in case you want a piece of any of that. and georgia governor nathan deal has signed a controversial

immigration bill into law that took place about an hour ago outside of a small group of protesters demonstrated in front of the state capital and many say that the law is the toughest crackdown against immigrants in the nation. it allows employers to check the status of immigrant workers against an database. arizona passed a similar law, but the judge ruled the law unconstitutional and stopped it from taking effect. well, charlie sheen is out, and we knew that, but ashton kutcher is in. yes, cbs and warner brothers said that kutcher is joining the si sit-com, "two and a half men" and he was teased what is the square root of 6.25, and the answer is 2 1/2, and as in "2

1/2 men." up next in globe trekking with the one and only michael holmes.

>> as we have mentioned the pakistan taliban wasted no time to revenge the death of osama bin laden. michael holmes joins us for his take on this. what is the latest on the attack first of all? >> well, sort that out first. bin laden's followers had vowed revenge as we know after he was taken out by the u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s and today we had twin suicide bombings ripped through a military training camp. they were recruits in the northwestern part of the country and you can see the aftermath.

80 of them killed and recruits who had just finished their training. >> and hasn't the military actually launched strikes against the taliban in this area? >> yes. there are a lot of military attacks and air attacks for more than a year in that particular area. the pakistan taliban are not really the same as the afghan taliban. there are similarities and lot of support, but they do liaison, but there are different factions within the waziristan area, and the northwestern frontier and other tribal areas, but the main target is the pakistan government because of the alliance with the united states. >> so what are the pakistan taliban fighting for if it is different? >> well, the post 9/11 support for the pakistan government, they don't agree with that at all. they are angry about that, and they want revenge there, and they are anti-government and oppose any alliance with the united states, and the other thing that is interesting about this is that you look back at a lot of the groups, the radical

groups in pakistan, and a lot of of them including the pakistan taliban were fostered by the isi, the pakistan intelligence services to become, i don't know, part of the bulwark against india, and they fostered many of the various groups and many of them islamic extremist groups which are now starting to turn against them in many ways and you are seeing it with the pakistan taliban as well. they have a creation and some support of the elements of the isi and doing things like this as well. it is like creating something that you think would work and it turns against you. >> from what you know, are they organized? >> yes, they are very organized. they have links with the taliban in afghanistan, but they don't fight in afghanistan their aim is to fight within pakistan and basically see the overthrow of the government as it exists now, and have afghanistan pre-9/11 government in pakistan, and we have talked about it before, and the nervous innocence the wenes

about this, because the pakistan is not the most stable states, but you have in pakistan, a nuclear weapon and growing arsenal as well. it is a sense that they will overtake britain in nuclear warheads. >> in handing over or helping pakistan, these were newly trained soldiers killed? >> oh, yeah, they just graduated most of them. and dozens more wounded as well. this was a real strike. they say it was in relation to or retaliation to bin laden's death. i mean, you can take that with a grain of salt perhaps. this is probably organized ahead of time and you know, you don't get this thing up and running with a target like that within a week. so maybe it is or not have been, but it is a convenient place to put it. >> and let's turn to china with a bizarre story, because "the new york times" has covered this extensively and a bizarre reaction to the anti-government protests throughout the region and the word jasmine.

>> yes, it was called the jasmine revolution when it started up. there were anonymous calls in china for people to wear jasmine and walk around with jasmine, and this would be sort of their little protest if you like. and then you recall that it began with the tunisia, and it starred everything that ousted the long-time president there, and that was called the jasmine revolution, and so china takes all steps to prevent a jasmine revolt breaking out in the mainland. >> they seem a little bit skiddish, and a little paranoid and they have blocked text messages with the word jasmine? >> with the chinese character jasmi jasmine, and that and a lot of other things. they canceled a international cultural jasmine festival, because it has the word jasmine in it. there were videos of the president singing an ancient song praising the jasmine flower and the beauty and pulled off of the web. >> and it is causing the prices for the jasmine plant to plummet. >> plummet, because nobody is

buying them anymore. they have gone around to the flower markets, and gone around to individual flower sellers and growers and saying, yeah, don't sell these, will you? and yeah, putting a lot of pressure on them, and a lot of people were like, what? why? and the other thing that you have to put in the backdrop in addition to jasmine flowers is a crackdown on the dissidents, and bloggers. >> yes, all of them. >> and we talked about when it happened a crackdown on the foreign journalists as well. don't go out to meet people in the streets and you have to have permission to do just about anything in china right now. we found on cnn international if the you and i were having this conversation on cnn international, they would have dipped to us black by now. >> really? >> yeah, they monitor it. one time we said the word tiananmen square, and we were blacked out. but when you go on the something else, you are back up. >> very, very paranoid. nice to be with you, michael.

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time now for cnn political update, and cnn deputy political director paul steinhauser joins me now from the political desk in washington. hi, paul. >> hi, randi. we have new news on somebody who may or may not be running for the white house. we will find out tomorrow, and the person we are talking about is mike huckaby, the former

governor of arkansas and he ran for the republican presidential nomination in 2008, but we learned that tomorrow night on his fox news channel show, he will announce whether he is or is not running for a presidential nomination. but most signs point to him not running again. let's talk about somebody who is running again, and that is congressman ron paul of texas. he made it official this morning in new hampshire, a good place to announce if you are running for the white house. this is the third bid and in 1988 he ran as a libertarian and ran four years ago and check this out, randi, most recent poll hypothetical between ron paul and barack obama, of course, the democratic nominee, and only seven points separate the two, and in our poll, ron paul does better in a hypothetical head-to-head against the president than any other republicans. stay tuned for that one, randi. >> getting interesting. thank you, paul. your next political update from the best political team on

television is an hour away. so if you see a policeman or someone making a routine traffic stop and you whip out the video camera and start taping, in one woman's case that got her in trouble. collene was in new jersey when she saw police officers confront a man who appeared to be drunbling and she took out the camera and started to taping, and the officers pulled her off of the bus and erased the video on the phone and kept her handcuffed for two hours in the back of the squad car. she was not charged with anything, and now she is suing the newark police department. so that is the stream team question, should bystanders be able to videotape police officers while they are doing their duty? what do you think about this battle between police and cameras? >> well, there isn't much case against allowing people to videotape based on the first and fourth amendments that lisa will

speak to, but police officers have to get used to the fact that everybody has got one and they need to put that kind of training into the police academies now, and as we know with the reality shows once you have been around a camera for a while, you forget that it is there. it is a good idea to do that, and there is no basis for stopping people, unless they are involved in a crime for videotaping. it does not make sense to try to do that. >> and lisa, do you think that the woman can win a lawsuit against the newark police department or anybody else who might decide to sue? >> absolutely, randi. there's no expectation of privacy on a city bus. so anyone, a journalist, a private citizen can take out a camera orm ka raphone and start to videotaping anything that goes on in the public place which includes a police officer making an arrest. many police departments have video cameras installed on the squad cars and on their motorcycles and they videotape we ordinary citizens when we are getting a ticket or getting arrested and what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

i'm shocked that they took this 16-year-old girl and cuffed her and held her for two hours simply because she videotaped. bad decision on their part. >> i wanted to share with you, because we got a statement from the newark police department which is the department that this girl is suing, and they said please be advised that the matter is currently under litigation and being investig e investigated by our internal affairs department. we want you to be aware of that, and this case started the battle between officers and cameras. was the taping of the beating of rodney king back in 1991, i mean, we all remember what came of this. and andy, do the cameras change the way, do you think, that an officer does his job? >> you know, i think it is very important to recognize the fact that i don't think it changes very much. because, cameras are a great asset for a police officer. so many departments are using them now on the street, because they can exonerate or prove that an officer handled the situation

correctly, so the officers are taking the lead to use the video to their advantages because most of the time the officers are doing their job correctly, and if you have allegations, you will have the videotape and it will exonerate you and show the thing that you weren't supposed to do, and it is a good thing overall. >> and just about everyone has a camera phone these days, so do we all have the legal right to film? i'm guessing that we do, lisa? what bothers you most about this whole thing that they put her in a squad car for a couple of hours and never followed up with charges or actually erased the video on the camera? >> well, first of all, yes, we can videotape in a public place. you cannot peer up to a curtain and peer in, because we have an expectation of privacy in our home, but out on the bus or the street, of course, we have the right to be videotaped and the average american is videotaped over 100 times a day going to the market or the bank. it is disturbing that they erased the tape. what did they do you have to

wonder that was so bad that they had to erase a camera of a 16-year-old girl? that just does not look good for them. >> no, it doesn't. all right. thank you both, and interesting discussion and certainly when h everybody has one of the cameraphones as we said. have a good weekend, both of you. >> you, too. and when you think dangerous jobs, mailman is probably not at the top of the list, but i have a list that may change your mind. my xyz is next. like nature valley. granola bars made with crunchy oats and pure honey. nature valley -- 100% natural. 100% delicious.

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