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fantastic quarter beat on almost everything raised margins i like it here >> guy >> the selloff in electronic arts, melissa, i think is overdone back to you. >> thank you for watching "fast money. "mad money" with jim cramer starts right now my mission is simple, to make you money i'm here to level the playing field for all investors. there's always a bull stock market somewhere and i promise to help you find it. "mad money" starts now hey, i'm cramer, welcome to "mad money," welcome to cramerica. my job is not just to entertain but to educate and teach
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call me or tweet me @jim cramer, the battle between truth and fiction plays out every da i in this market, and sadly, fiction usually wins that includes days like today where the dow shed 181 points, s&p declined .76%, nasdaq lost 1.15%. last fall, things have turned nasty, haven't they? i'm starting to see the same old negative on wheat creep back in the market, plagued by imaginary scenarios, we convince ourselves represent reality, and make us say, who needs this nonsense let's just go sell everything and buy some bonds >> house of pleasure. >> the first absurdity, the first fantasy, that somehow there's a correlation between the newly weak bank stocks and reality, because these bank failures last spring have left a nasty taste in our mouths. the vast majority are doing well
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in this country. guess, what they weren't doing it anyway. almost every class of loans is doing great, credit cards, home equity, small business loans, even the dreaded office building loans are looking good, which are a small part of every bank's portfolios there are the new ones with tremendous amenities, lure workers back to the office from home, and old ones filled with support workers that execs are actually in a foot race to terminate. look, you only need to go on any of the retail conference calls yesterday, and today, you know there are some head winds, but the earnings are higher. we're even seeing strong numbers from the office real estate investment trust and upgrades in price target bumps, too. can we just say this whole low end office building crisis is overblown? may not even be a crisis and there's plenty of capital out there willing to buy sub standard building and they can make a real deal, you know, what
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they might be able to turn them into residential houses, you need tax to do that. enough lies and misinformation about commercial real estate the lies are what's getting painful, not the news, the second set of lies, we are told to fear the stock market because the yield of the ten-year treasury, roughly 4.25% is closing in on the highs from last october just above 4.3%. that was the highest it's been in 15 years. i've been saying forever that the economy is actually in good shape. something the atlanta fed seems to agree with me on because they said the economy is growing, the gdp is growing at a 5.8% clip, holy cow here we go again we were supposed to fear the stock market when the ten-year offered low interest now we fear it when it offers high interest. stop bonds, heads you lose, tails you lose, give nme a break the longer term rates, out to 10, 20 years, they're too low to begin with, versus how strong
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our economy s. that's been my view for two years now we need several more rate hikes by the fed, but the bears want to have it both ways somehow lower rates are bad and higher rates are bad in this case, i think higher rates are fine they represent a return to normalcy you need to be old enough to remember what normalcy looks like exhibit a. now, the third lie is that the consumer is getting weaker no, no, and no the consumer is a changed beast, though she doesn't do what she did before covid because her life is different. she may work at home she may want the convenience of amazon, 375 million packages on prime day. don't you think that changes the equation about retail and brick and mortar i do as target showed today when it reported weaker same-store sales, it made a boat load of money, home depot on the other hand had a magnificent quarter it's been hard to compete them
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amazon doesn't do a great job of selling houses, washing machines as ceo ted decker explained on home depot's excellent conference call, quote, our consumer is a homeowner, 80-odd percent of them own their homes of tremendous equity value in that home. great jobs, great income, and it's very healthy consumer segment in the overall economy come on, do you trust the people on wall street that tell you everything is bad. i'm going with ted becker. i could have gone extremely fine i thought fine was just fine it's not a good time for other brick and mortar retailers i wear contacts, i don't know about you. i ordered contact lens solution from amazon, one they recommend, like everything else, you know, yesterday evening it was on my deck when i got back from work i ordered in the morning, and there it was it's so much easier to buy this stuff rather than going to walgreens and wait for a cart to come open in that plastic case where they have to hide the
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stuff. i didn't need the stuff. i could have waited a day for the solution so could you so before we decide the consumer is weak, i argue the consumer is just not going to the same place anymore. everybody loves a bargain, hence the strength of amazon, and tjx, right down the block i got a pair of jeans for 14 bucks. they're worth like 140 tjx delivered a monster quarter. it's incredible. i was particularly pleased to see that marshals did well that's where i got my first corduroy suit. home goods did well too. if you're going to get the stuff for thanksgiving, you got to go now. they run out fast. fourth lie, china will bring us down eight years ago, the chinese stock market was collapsing every day, and we were told it would crush us now we hear their wayward trust in clown show real estate developers is going to crush us
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like a nightmare listen to me, i am concerned about the bizarre chinese weakness, but i keep thinking back to what stopped the selling in the stock market back then. last night, while i was doing my speech for tomorrow, with the people in the investment club, i was trying to figure out what made that selloff stop well, guess what they did, they made it illegal to sell. now, if they did that here, our investment bankers and sharp traders couldn't figure a way around it. in china, it could be made into capital crimes, if the ruling communist party, no one can withdraw money from troubled institutions and they do, they can do whatever they want for heaven's sake. but you know it's like a communist dictatorship over there. i mean, maybe we don't remember that authoritarian government, you can do whatever you want to change whatever you want i'm not buying the theory that china's economy will bring us down i'm surprised they don't give life in prison for stealing
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money. maybe they will. the chinese government isn't eager to air its dirty laundry tech is over, the bull stock market is over the bull is all tech i'm very sorry, but during our fable chart, we had the legendary williams come to town. long before the current bout of selling, he made it clear that august would be a tough month for the market, and what did he say? he cautioned p, he cautioned for patience you had to be willing to watch your favorite techs getting hurt nobody wants to suffer through the stocks going down. i was looking at a tape of an old day on cnbc and watched the ticker go by, stocks that might have been sold ten times between then and now if you got spooked, you wow missed out on tremendous multiyear moves. pa patience plays off and synopsis reported amazing numbers. we'll talk to synopsis later in the show think of these fictional
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narratives, bank is going to take a step. china can take us down with a drowning swimmer, when you go out there and trying to save it, and life saving, and i think these are nightmares that will not be realized. stephen king is not in charge. bottom line, lies thrive on wall street, either thanks to ignorance or money managers with a vested interest in pushing stocks lower i would much rather bet on the side of the truth. truth tends to work out. it sticks. the truth is much better than you might think, considering the recent action. i wouldn't find myself bailing here patience is warranted. how about we start out with jerry in missouri. jerry. >> hey, jim, thanks for taking my call. >> my pleasure, jerry. what's up? >> you've spoken to this company on your show often over the years, you seem to be a fan. but with the tech downturn this month, i want to know if you still consider shopify a good stock to own >> shopify is the small or
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medium sized person's amazon for fulfillment, and harvey does a great job. my belief is that shopify is a hard stock to own, i admit that, but longer term, i think it's going to be great from all the way down at these levels listen to me, lies thrive on wall street. i would much rather bet on the truth. as far as the inflation reduction act, medicare has given me authority to negotiate directly with drug companies in order to lower the cost of medications. drug manufacturers are finally fighting back. i'll give you my take. and the cnbc investing club, what could a uaw strike mean for the auto cohort as a hole? i'm digging into the latest situation. as i mentioned, synopsis announced a big leadership change i'm running through the announcement and those fabulous earnings so stay with cramer.
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now, some of that's because these are textbook defensive stocks that wall street just doesn't like whenever people are more confident about the economy. and people feeling more confident is the story of 2023 especially the last few months, because these are dividend stocks, the yields are much less attractive in a world of relatively high interest rates, who needs a risky pfizer, when you can get a 5.5% from risk free treasury bills. and some of it comes down to the fact that we're now 15 months out from the 2024 election presidential elections, they're almost always ugly for big pharma as drug prices become a political football they're an easy target in an election year. look at what happened after the 2020 election. last year, the biden administration passed the so called inflation reduction act, which was really a grab bag of climate investments. there's also a health care component here that no one's talking about, specifically the
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ira gives medicare the authority to negotiate direct with drug companies in order to lower the cost of expensive brand name medications. they also got new ways to cap drug prices, including rebates for drugs that see price increases in excess of inflation. that's never been done seems like a slam dunk politically though, terrifying for pharmaceutical companies, and yes, you, the shareholder. you haven't heard a lot about these provisions in part because in policy takes forever to implement. it kind of snuck in there, frankly. the government won't even start identifying which drugs they're going to target until 2026 i'm bringing this up now because big pharma has started fighting back and pushing back against new pricing rules in court i think they were surprised, too. they were ready. in june, merck sued the department of health and human services and the center for medicare and medicaid services, calling the drug pricing provisions in the ira unconstitutional, a sham, and get this, tantamount to
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extortion. less than two weeks later, bristol myers filed its own lawsuit against the same authorities using similar language a couple days after that, multiple pharma industry groups filed their own lawsuit against hhs and the center for medicare and medicaid services. seems like some sort of staggered rollout. if we saw this 20, 30 years ago, i wouldn't take it seriously precedent is on the government si side the federal judiciary is more conservative, and that goes double for the supreme court, still an up hill battle. what matters is no one seems to be thinking about any of this. i think that's a huge mistake for anyone who owns pharma stocks now, big pharma is going all out here it was filed in different jurisdictions, merrick's case is in d.c., bristol myers in new jersey, they're all pursuing different strategies merck and bristol myers claim the drug pricing rules violate the first and fifth amendment.
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i don't think it's a free speech issue, but they have some arguments about how there's not a lot of talk about it the first amendment feels like a stretch, but the fifth amendment requires the government to pay just compensation, it's called a take it, and when it takes private property for public use, merck and bristol myers say they are being coerced into negotiating lower prices, they get hit with an excise task. from their perspective, they're basically being robbed by the government without fair compensation for some it might feel like a stretch, but i think they may get a win with a sympathetic judge. the big pharma lawsuit claims the ira prices violate the 8th amendment, cruel and unusual punishment, but it also prohibits excessive fines, the way the ira works, they have to pay insanely high taxes on the sales of each drug where they're in violation they probably won't put out the drugs if that's the case we're talking about a 65% tax
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rate on sales, not profits i understand why they keep using the word extortion, but that doesn't mean it's unconstitutional in short, the pharma school industry has an all out legal assault on the drug provisions and no one is covering this, though it could destroy the drug compa company's profitability. the japanese drug maker is filing suit in the eastern district of illinois similar to the one at bristol myers did. even the chamber of commerce got in on the action in a lawsuit in ohio they should. this is a big business issue precedent is not really on their side, but each additional case makes it more likely some judge somewhere will side with the drug industry, so can these legal challenges boost the downtrodden stocks if they win listen, like the verdict on the french revolution, i say it's too soon to tell merck has asked for judgment without a full trial, i don't think they're going to win that
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one. according to city's farm analyst, andrew balm, we could get a ruling as early as the first quarter of next year the timing is important because medicare is supposed to send industry offers of fare prices if merck can't win in court, they can delay the rollout of price controls at best, if they're lucky, they can get a preliminary injunction, where the judge blocked the new pricing rules, while a full trial takes place when you look at the entire pharma industry, i don't see the lawsuits as an attempt to fight the ira's drug pricing provisions in court. while they would love to get the whole thing thrown out as unconstitutional, they are run by smart people with smart lawyers. the chance of a clean victory at this point, slim this wave of lawsuits looks like a negotiating strategy for every favorable ruling, the biden administration will be under more pressure to backoff maybe they pause the rollout until the litigation is over maybe they will decide to be less aggressive in pushing for
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lower prices if they can kick the can down to 2025 they might negotiate with a very different white house which is i think one of their major tactics. that's what they really want what do you do with all of this yourself i think it's way too soon to get your hopes up. the whole thing is an uphill battle for the pharmaceutical industry this is a very big but there's a chance they could offer the drug companies an up side litigation could be a tail wind for big pharma, not a head wind from plaintiffs who attack them. here's the bottom line, for the most, most big pharma stocks are out of style on the wall street fashion style, other than cramer eli lilly. i think they will stay that way unless the economy slows down dramatically if any wind up favors the drug companies, the whole group is going to catch fire. definitely worth keeping an eye on if that happens "mad money" is back after the break. has united auto workers moved the boat, will ford and gm
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be stuck in neutral? to the ballot box we go, next.
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plus, get a free samsung galaxy z flip5. only on verizon. when you get to my age, it's always surprising when it's been irrelevant for decades suddenly matters again. take organized labor now, regardless of how you feel about unions, i'm generally sympathetic myself, when you're investing in stocks unions are the opposition more money for workers means less money for you the shareholder, but the labor movement has been so on its back for so long that we haven't had to worry about unions in ages. it wasn't a factor the unions had no bargaining power. lately that's changed, and the best industry, the best example is not necessarily the entertainment industry but the auto industry. over the past month, plunges from 15 and change to just under
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12 general motors from the low 30s to the low 40s and chrysler jeep dodge has seen the stock pull back about 13% since the end of july. despite reporting a pretty good quarter. while much of that comes down to worries about interest rates and that's true, costs more to buy a car, i think the real source of weakness for the big three is the united auto workers union. they there have been long simmering worries about a strike it's not new when i was out there, this is what we talked about i spoke with ford ceo in june, he said all the right things, but it was clear that a potentially strike was still very much on the table normally it's not a huge deal for a company with a unionized work force has one of these contract negotiations but of course the whole economy, organized labor has become a lot more aggressive. much easier for them to negotiate when you've only got
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3.5% unemployment, and that's especially true for the uaw, under the new president sean fain who took over in march. you would think he's the second coming of walter ruther, someone you should google if that day means nothing to you the day after he took over he said, quote, we're here to come together and ready ourselves for the war against our one and only true enemy, multibillion dollar corporations and importers who refuse to give our members their fair share end quote holy cow, that is really even for the uaw. he hasn't dialled back the rhetoric at all, he said, quote, the only real limits we have are the ones we place on ourselves we refuse those limits because they are no limits end quote. definitely not what you want to hear as a shareholder. how about this one, quote, i have been told i'm crazy to raise member expectations this high in the bargaining: i refuse to allow employers, the
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billionaire class and sellouts to play on our fears, end quote. the billionaire class. holy cow billionaire? i'm not a billionaire. just last week, fain took a contract proposal from a respected company, stellantis and through it into the trash, literally. he called it a slap in the face to members who risked their lives to work during covid a mad labor organizer, he has a great sense of showmanship this is "mad money." you know this could cost shareholders a lot of money. a highly ambitious set of demands to put it dramatically they want a 46% increase to base salary, pension increases and a 32-hour workweek when are you going to make the cars wells fargo published a review of what uaw is asking for.
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they thought the new contracts would cost each auto maker an additional 1.4 billion to 1.9 billion. now they think it could be more like 6 to $8 billion a year. what happens next? well, next week, the uaw will formally vote on whether to authorize a strike, and the way things are going, you have to assume they will go through with it then the auto makers and the uaw, will reach a deal, and if they can't get there by the 14th, the workers put down their tools. and a strike can be very expensive. ford and gm are making 225,000 vehicles a month, each representing 12 grand of earnings per interest, taxes, and i have to tell you something, according to wells fargo, a strike would, get this, would therefore cost gm, $2.7 billion, and ford, 2.4 billion, into earnings before interest and taxes. i don't like that. it helps explain where the stocks are to put that in perspective, ford's currently guiding for 11
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billion to 12 billion operating income this year, so even if we assume a month-long strike only costs him 2 billion, that's still a big chunk of the profits, and this is an enormous but, i'm not that worried about a strike by the uaw. it's definitely not a reason to sell auto makers why not? first off, this is a one off cost once the strike is over, it's immediately in the rear view mirror wall street carries about the future, not the past s in the strike goes on endlessly, because the people refuse to collectively bargain, it's not the end of the world. if the negotiations result in much higher labor costs for the big three, that could certainly hurt their stocks. we haven't had a recent example of this that rings through except for a case, a contract that just happened and i am worried about it. it's a contract involving ups. we thought the company had averted disaster when it reached a deal with the teamsters a few weeks ago, averting a strike
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stock immediately shot up. since then, we have learned more about the terms of the deal that was reached. ups shares have slid steadily lower, down 10% since the new labor deal was announced however, this situation is different. ups was in a tougher spot because the top competitor, fedex was ready, willing to take the business in an event of a strike tesla informed auto makers, might be able to take a share. the big three oems are in this together i don't think the deal will be anywhere near what the uaw is asking for i mean, a 46% raise and 32-hour workweek good luck with that. the way i see it, that's his way of playing hardball, which is exactly what negotiators do. you start by asking for the world, and then you cut a deal, you lose some, but if the negotiations truly get
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contentious and keep dragging on, i would expect the federal government to step in because we're talking about an essential industry here. even though biden's the most pro labor president in generations he industrial broke the railroad strike last december the regailroad workers got a god deal when push comes to shove, no u.s. president can let a critical industry shut down for an extended period of time when push comes to shove, i don't think biden would support the extended strike. he's up for reelection in a little over a year michigan is a swing state, so he will probably give the uaw more latitude than the rail workers finally, let's not forget, the auto stocks are already down huge from their highs, in a very short period of time i think much of the disruption from a strike is already baked down ford is down 22%, 23% in the last month, gm is down roughly
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20%, stellantis down 13% in a little over two weeks. each of the stocks looks cheap, even if you take a meat cleaver to their earnings estimates. at some point, the stocks have come down enough that they will fully reflect any pain from a new labor deal that's unfavorable to shareholders. that said, i don't recommend rushing into either stock, and not going to say that tomorrow at the club meeting. the situation could get worse for a little bit here. the bottom line, if you own the auto makers, don't panic and sell the stocks well off the recent highs most of it is already baked in it's so hard, the uaw can push for the white house is likely to step in and force a compromise let's go to tommy in virginia. tommy. >> hey, booyah, jim. i just want to tell you first, you nailed it in the early summer with the tesla chart you
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put up and recommended it. i went to the moon with it, got out high >> well done well done. >> yeah, i got lucky, i guess. anyway, i didn't exercise what you preached and tried chasing it back. i got completely out at 280, back in at 260, now i'm bleeding to death, wanting to know whether i should get out or hold on to it >> there's a lot of bad news right now about price cuts tesla seems to be cutting price, cutting price, loas long as they're doing that, it's going to go down it's difficult to opine and think positively about tesla for the moment, i got to tell you, if you keep taking down your price, you're certainly not going to be able to make the earnings estimates that are out there. if you already own the auto makers, don't panic, most of the bad news is baked in the uaw can only push so hard bf the white house is likely to step in and make a contest
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most of us have a pretty good understanding of consumer facing tech industries, but when it comes to enterprise industries, it takes a lot more
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to figure out what's important that's why i'm here to point you in the right direction, which brings me to a company called synopsis, a software company that helps design semiconductors and electronics systems, design them maybe you have never heard of them it's a bit like cadence,who we had on a few months ago. from artificial intelligence to the cloud. a strong set of numbers with in-line revenue and 14 earns beat off, tech looks so awful. management also raised their full year revenue. hence why the stock's rallied nicely in after hours trading, even as the company announced some bittersweet news saying the synopsis chairman and ceo will be transitioning to the role of executive chairman at the end of the year he's resigning as ceo. can he keep climb something earlier today we spoke with art, the current ceo, to get a better
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read on the situation. take a look. welcome back to "mad money." >> thanks for having me. >> i don't want to bury the lead, we got news after the close which indicates you'll be stepping up to a new role and you've got a new ceo, why don't you tell us a little about him. >> it's great news so the news to be clear is that january 1st, our president and coo will take the ceo role, and it's great because the he has been working at synopsys for the last three years, and we have worked closely to change and evolve the company and scale it because of the opportunities that we face today, and so having him take the mantle, i'm just thrilled about as he will bring whole new energy and additional push and drive the momentum and drive at this point in time. all great news. >> once again, you reported a
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great quarter. it's been your habit to do so. i think people have to understand, and i want them to know where you play, i think, first of all, people don't understand really electronic design automation and they don't understand the key role you play in making it so semiconductors to market. maybe you can put synopsys in a context, why it can deliver great numbers. >> it's relatively simple. many of the new capabilities, the ai, the electronics is based on chips, and those chips take a long time to design, and they're designed with our tools. eda stands for electronic design automation, and synopsys had the good fortune to become the leader in our field. at the very moment, where the overall software market says give me more, faster chips, lower powered chips, more new
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chips, so there's a natural momentum in the industry, and there's absolutely, at the same time, an additional complication as the chips become much more complex, and more of them together that's where we fit. >> i'm so glad you mentioned low power, the more i talk to companies, the more i realize that they have to get their emissions down they have to become more climate centric. so why don't you tell us how synopsys is doing to make it so the earth doesn't overheat >> this is a great question, all the more, if we don't do that, and there are more and more chips, they will consume more power, of course, so one of the challenges in designing a chip is always the same is you want it to be really fast or you want it to be really fast or really low power, and the two invariably conflict. the quality of the design, the quality of the architecture, the quality of how you think about the system determines greatly what we can do there and so this has been literally a
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quest, i would say since the early 2000s. before that power, nobody cared about, and why 2000s, because mobility certainly said, well, your battery life is going to be horrible if you don't deal with it in addition to that, we have the macro issue of climate impact of course this is an area that our customers push on. the system houses, so the people that buy the chips push on, and i would venture to say that a lot of ai will be necessary to find out new ways in all of the fields impacted to reduce power consumption. and therefore, our mission is at the heart of the heart of high-tech. >> now, let's talk about heart of high-tech, we wanted to come back to the united states. we used to be the place where everything was made. i know you're involved with the chips and science act. of course one of your large customers intel has been a leader in that can we become a leader again in the creation and manufacturing of semis because if that happens, it's going to be based
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on synopsys's work because in many ways you're the intellectual property behind the design to the market >> you know, in the technology that errwe're in, i've always ft if there's a will there's a way, and it takes a lot of will because we have been part of the evolution of the highest rate of change, used to be called moore's law in the history of mankind, right, there's a whole new exponential that has started because what we're going to do now is take multiple chips and put them really close together actually stack them on top of each other you immediately understand this could be hard to do but the benefits are enormous. and so when there are big changes like that, all nations, all groups van opportunity to say, well, i'm going to catch up for the next generation. and, you know, when we talk about chip act, we should talk chips act plural because every
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country has already followed the lead of the u.s., and the bottom line is certainly everybody understands, hey, chips are important, and the race is on. >> now, we keep hearing that intel is really important to you, and i know that it is, but they are not necessarily the leader right now in ai, and you're playing it. you're very big into artificial intelligence who are you working with who do you see shining in that particular part of the business? >> well, the interesting thing is there are two types of shining. all the people that develop the software that actually enhances the ai algorithms, right, then all the people that develop the chips that actually can do the computations, and by the way, the more the software evolves, the more the pressure makes the chips faster, please give us more data, which is a good sign, right, this is the one place where unhappy customers is a great sign because they want more but on top of that, there's another world which is the people that take this ai capability and start putting them into the end systems. like a whole car is an example
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of that. and, you know, we have now watched with great astonishment and also trepidation how soon can we have cars that drive well autonomously that's an unbelievably complex problem, but the advances are fast, and they very much predicate on how good are the chips going to be. and by the way, are they safe and secure by the time they're sitting in a car, so there's a lot of team work in this world that actually will make the difference and in high complexity technology, i've always argued that the singular most important and i will is actually good collaboration. because many things have to intersect. >> well, look, i know that one of the things that people should realize, there are not that many collaborators, you are one of only a couple of companies that are in your industry, and you do incredibly well, and i want to congratulation you on all that you have done for shareholders, and i look forward to talking one more time, and then we have a new ceo, but it's going to,
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obviously, the good things are going to continue at synopsys, thank you, art de geus, ceo of snopysys. >> charamer wants to hear from you, your calls on a thunder rows lightning round, next ev spac worth more than ford you won't believe how much you're playing for shrink inflat shrinkflatino, next. shrinkflatin next , next shrinkflation, next.
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frank in new york. >> jimmy, frank from winchester. >> i'm looking at this stock, just for a sec, okay, they reported financials recently revenue was up 119%. subscr subscriptions were up by 195%, and they're in the weapons detection, unfortunately we need that in this country it's a shame. schools does stadiums, what do you think? is it worth a shot >> what's the stock? >> evolve. >> it's so high. don't make any money it's nay. >> lisa in virginia. lisa >> hi, jim, thanks for taking my call >> of course. >> i'm calling about dwat. >> jimmy chill don't touch that thing. a blank check company, hard pass on that. steven in virginia.
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>> greetings, jim, from fairfax. >> how it's going? >> i'm doing fine, i would like to ask about a company headquartered right down the road from me in arlington as a long-term growth stock, raytheon technologies. >> i agree with you, it did screw up, it had a problem with manufacturing, taking the stock down ten points, it's time to buy. let's go to peter in connecticut. >> jim, how are you? >> not bad, how about you? >> not too bad my stock is stay safe. >> no, payment processing, i've had it even though it's profitable, i don't want anything paying unless it's visa or mastercard beau in alabama, beau knows. beau >> jimmy chill, how's it going, man? >> my wife made 65 jars of tomato sauce, so i'm all good. how about you, beau, what's up >> there you go. not all heroes wear capes,
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right. >> okay. question, i know you don't like two of my top holdings, but i'm setting up something for my 4-year-old, it's cross fit capital. >> we have no idea what prospect owns we can't do it i know it has that big yield we have no idea what's in it we're going to say no to that. how about like a good drug company, how about that. and that, ladies and gentlemen, is the lightning round >> announcer: lightning round is sponsored by td ameritrade coming up, today auto maker, vinfast is worth almost as much as ford and gm combined. in other words, run for the hills. cramer sound a warning, next
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. i guess some things never change including the stock market's ability to fleece the heck out of unsuspecting investors like you. we saw it happen with the terrible ipos, the ridiculous spac deals in '20, and '21, and we're seeing it again, we have another absurd spac deal
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yesterday, one of the special purpose acquisition vehicles merged with vinfast auto, and immediately, 255% in response. now, this money losing car company has been plagued by all sorts of manufacturing problems. as of last night's close, it was valued at $85 billion, which made it larger than ford, gm or mercedes-benz. why it did pull back 19%, it was stupid to buy yesterday, it's got an insane valuation, it ain't done i'll say this about vinfast auto, it does exist, and it actually makes something it makes cars. lots of them you can order five different kinds of electric cars on their cool web site. that's better than most companies in the electric vehicle cohort, which is not saying much because on the whole this has been a pretty disgraceful group. so vinfast is a legitimate company but everything else about it, the equity you see is from a merger with a blank check spac, mean it became public without the s.e.c. blessings and
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those are almost always losers vinfast skipped the whole screening process. the backed deals are like a back door to get around the whole process to the point where i think you can call them a legal con. the stock you see actually comes from vinfast merger with a buying tech company called black spade acquisition. thank you. if you don't understand that, oh, it's okay, you know what, because we've learned that spacs, nobody understands them you can argue we have no real idea how many shares there are or what the company is worth how did vinfast sky high valuation come about, simple, there are 1.3 million trading. this is where the original investors are likely to cash outs most other shareholders are locked up and not a lot of sell. as a result, there are very few shares out there of vinfast, for short squeeze, which is what happened if they had ten times as many shares, the company would be worth far less money, some 99% of this business is owned by the richest man in vietnam and his family if he ever decides to ring the register, fellow shareholders are toast.
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vinfast has shipped 3,000 vehicles to the u.s., 137 registered as sold by the end of june that doesn't seem all that robust to me in that sense, the stock reminds me of earlier electric vehicle aspect deals like lucid or maybe even large town motors these are all market rallies at one point but investored s endep losing fortunes. a limited number of people will get burned how can they keep coming because the s.e.c. hasn't stamped out the absurd process if you want to come public via a spac deal you can do so without regulatory scrutiny whatsoever anyone who buys this thing needs to recognize that the stock has nothing to do with the fortunes of the underlying car company. it has to do with the part of the stock market that feels more like playing a lottery than investing in actual businesses, because the lottery seems a lot more legal i hate this stuff. i hate that it's allowed i hate that it will cost people fortunes i hate there's no government we can shine a light on the
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stupidity of it at all and marvel at a company once run by ho chi minh. it's a curse, you can trade vinfast all day, betting it will go higher and lower, never confuse it with a real stock i'd like to say there's always a bull market somewhere and promise to find it f y yououoron >> right now on last call, a predatory landgrab in maui. the disturbing rush to try and buy a property devastated i wildfires. the analyst playing matchmaker for espn, he is her . how about this for a shock? an ev maker from vietnam now worth about the same as ford and gm combined. i will try to make sense of it

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