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people have made year alone, 8000 people have made that perilous journey across the channels in a small boat.- that perilous journey across the channels in a small boat. let's be clear, channels in a small boat. let's be clear. nobody _ channels in a small boat. let's be clear, nobody should _ channels in a small boat. let's be clear, nobody should be - channels in a small boat. let's be clear, nobody should be making l channels in a small boat. let's be i clear, nobody should be making that journey. nobody. and it is a test, it is a test of governance, of would—be governments, as to how we respond. and there are choices in that response. you could choose a gimmick that won't fix it or a serious ban that will get to the heart of it. and the government has chosen the gimmick, the rwanda scheme. it cost a fortune, an absolute fortune. to deport less than 1% of those arriving by small boats. that means, of course, that 99 plus will not be removed under the scheme. and if you don't think that criminal gangs are saying that
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to the people they are exploiting, you have never met a criminal gang. those gangs are vile, they are making a huge amount of money. they are putting people in boats that they shouldn't be. we have to be serious about smashing those gangs and taking them down. that is where the border security command comes in. new command, new resources and new powers, including counterterrorism powers. we talk about small boats. that is the language that is used. if you look at the bouts that are being used these days, they are not that small. they are being made to order, stored in europe and moved up to the north coast of france. vulnerable people are being put in them for money by violent gangs. i worked for years as a prosecutor and i worked with police and law in florence —— law
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enforcement across europe to take down these gangs. they are sophisticated gangs, by the way. i would never accept that it is impossible to take down the vile gangs that bring people in small boats to cross the channel. we will smash it! applause step four, great british energy. the problem here is obvious. it is the classic example, the textbook example, of master politics. about ten years ago, the tories and this government said cut the green clap. and so they cut investment in green british power. they scrapped home
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insulation and that left us really badly exposed. so when world events changed and russia invaded ukraine, your bills went up more than they should have done. i am not prepared to let that happen under a labour government. we will set up great british energy, harness clean british energy, harness clean british power, owned by the taxpayer, making money for the taxpayer, making money for the taxpayer and investing in the future and keeping bills down for good. applause step five, cracking down on anti—social behaviour. all my working life, when i was chief prosecutor and since i have been a politician, people say to me care,
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this is a low level socialism, not that important. wrong. if you feel that important. wrong. if you feel that you cannot open your front door at night and go out. if you feel that you cannot walk down your high street, that is a big inhabitant of so many people. it is not low level, it is really important. that was brought home to me in stoke when i was at sixth form college. i was talking to 16 and i7—year—olds, these were girls and young women. we were actually talking about something else, and they brought up anti—social behaviour. they said to me, we do not feel safe walking down our own high street in broad daylight. that is massive for those young women. they don't feel safe on their own high street, in daylight, because of anti—social behaviour.
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that is what losing control of your streets feels like. we have to crackdown on anti—social behaviour. 13,000 officers in your community with new powers keeping your streets safe. applause and finally, step six. 6500 extra teachers, paid for by removing tax breaks in primary schools. we have to prepare our children and young people for the work that they are actually going to do and the lives they are actually going to live. that will require reform to make sure the skills they get, they are taught, are the skills they are actually going to have in life. it also means we need to concentrate on creativity, confidence, what a
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difference that will make. resilience for all young people. we need to get the basics right. our prime minister is very fond of lecturing us that we need maths until age 16. lecturing us that we need maths untilage 16. given lecturing us that we need maths until age 16. given the billion pounds tax that is unfounded he is probably right. we haven't got enough maths teachers, pe teachers. that is shocking. i was the first in my family to go to university, i know the power that education can give us. an area in my constituency, between euston station and king's cross, it is one of the most deprived areas in the country, probably in europe. and the children in the schools in this town can look out of their school window, out at
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the playground, to the back of king's cross huge corporations there, google is there. the guardian building isjust there, they there, google is there. the guardian building is just there, they can see it but they can never imagine that thatis it but they can never imagine that that is where they will work. that is a few hundred yards that but they cannot make that leap. i want every child, whatever their background, to think that success belongs to them. that they don't have to change who they are to get on. and this labour party will fight every day to give those children a future that is fit for them. applause thank you. so here we are. one card, six steps,
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in your hand a plan to change the country. this is a message that we can take to every doorstep across the country. every doorstop across the country. every doorstop across the country. every doorstop across the country. i make that argument, decline is not inevitable. politics can make a difference, britain will have a better future and you can chooseit have a better future and you can choose it with labour. stop the chaos with labour. turn the page with labour. return politics to service with labour. and with patience, determination, with these first steps we can bet rebuild our country with labour. thank you very much. applause
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there we have keir starmer setting out the first steps that he would take if his party wins the next election. there were six of them. he ended there by holding up a card which he said, one card, six steps, in your plan a —— in your hands a plan to change the country. he said those were the steps that they would take to every doorstep saying that politics can make a difference. he is now going to answer some questions from the media. from the bbc, questions from the media. from the sac, chris. — questions from the media. from the bbc, chris. thank _ questions from the media. from the bbc, chris. thank you. _ questions from the media. from the bbc, chris. thank you. you - questions from the media. from the bbc, chris. thank you. you have - bbc, chris. thank you. you have talked about _ bbc, chris. thank you. you have talked about being _ bbc, chris. thank you. you have talked about being held - bbc, chris. thank you. you have - talked about being held accountable. let's talk _ talked about being held accountable. let's talk about a deliverable that you talked about this morning and when _ you talked about this morning and when you — you talked about this morning and when you will deliver it. you talk about _ when you will deliver it. you talk about extra _ when you will deliver it. you talk about extra 40,000 appointments in the nhs _ about extra 40,000 appointments in the nhs every week, how many weeks into the _ the nhs every week, how many weeks into the labour governments do you -et into the labour governments do you get into— into the labour governments do you get into those figures? we into the labour governments do you get into those figures?— get into those figures? we will get to it as swiftly _ get into those figures? we will get to it as swiftly as _ get into those figures? we will get to it as swiftly as we _ get into those figures? we will get
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to it as swiftly as we can. - to it as swiftly as we can. obviously, to make that happen you have got to operate at weekends and evenings, we have to pay staff for the shifts. that is why we have already had discussions with the staff about how that will work. i don't want to waste any time in the first 800 days of the labour government on discussions i could be having now. the idea is to get that “p having now. the idea is to get that up as quickly as possible. i will not put a number on it but i will make sure we are doing the work now to make sure we hit the ground running as soon as the election is called. those will make a huge difference. imagine you are one of the 40,000 people each week, what a difference it will make it to you. that is the difference that these first steps can make. thank you very much. ,, ., , ., , first steps can make. thank you very much. ,, ., i. , ., ., much. keir starmer, you set out to our five
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much. keir starmer, you set out to your five missions _ much. keir starmer, you set out to your five missions in _ much. keir starmer, you set out to your five missions in january - much. keir starmer, you set out to your five missions in january 2023, j your five missions injanuary 2023, voters _ your five missions injanuary 2023, voters have — your five missions injanuary 2023, voters have been— your five missions injanuary 2023, voters have been waiting _ your five missions injanuary 2023, voters have been waiting for- your five missions injanuary 2023, voters have been waiting for quite i your five missions injanuary 2023,| voters have been waiting for quite a lon- voters have been waiting for quite a long time _ voters have been waiting for quite a long time for— voters have been waiting for quite a long time for flesh _ voters have been waiting for quite a long time for flesh on _ voters have been waiting for quite a long time for flesh on the _ voters have been waiting for quite a long time for flesh on the bounce, i long time for flesh on the bounce, but you _ long time for flesh on the bounce, but you have — long time for flesh on the bounce, but you have downsized _ long time for flesh on the bounce, but you have downsized your- long time for flesh on the bounce, - but you have downsized your promises today _ but you have downsized your promises today you _ but you have downsized your promises today. you promised _ but you have downsized your promises today. you promised the _ but you have downsized your promises today. you promised the highest - today. you promised the highest sustained — today. you promised the highest sustained economic— today. you promised the highest sustained economic ray- today. you promised the highest sustained economic ray roast - today. you promised the highest sustained economic ray roast in. today. you promised the highest. sustained economic ray roast in the g7, sustained economic ray roast in the 67. economic— sustained economic ray roast in the g7, economic stability. _ sustained economic ray roast in the g7, economic stability. you - sustained economic ray roast in the l g7, economic stability. you promised green _ g7, economic stability. you promised green energy— g7, economic stability. you promised green energy by— g7, economic stability. you promised green energy by 2030, _ g7, economic stability. you promised green energy by 2030, that - g7, economic stability. you promised green energy by 2030, that become i green energy by 2030, that become setting _ green energy by 2030, that become setting up— green energy by 2030, that become setting up great _ green energy by 2030, that become setting up great british _ green energy by 2030, that become setting up great british energy. - green energy by 2030, that become j setting up great british energy. why are you _ setting up great british energy. why are you scatihg — setting up great british energy. why are you scaling back— setting up great british energy. why are you scaling back your _ setting up great british energy. why are you scaling back your ambition? | are you scaling back your ambition? is it are you scaling back your ambition? is it for— are you scaling back your ambition? is it for fear— are you scaling back your ambition? is it for fear of _ are you scaling back your ambition? is it for fear of breaking _ are you scaling back your ambition? is it for fear of breaking promises. is it for fear of breaking promises or is— is it for fear of breaking promises or is it _ is it for fear of breaking promises or is it because _ is it for fear of breaking promises or is it because you _ is it for fear of breaking promises or is it because you are _ is it for fear of breaking promises or is it because you are so- is it for fear of breaking promises or is it because you are so far- or is it because you are so far ahead — or is it because you are so far ahead in— or is it because you are so far ahead in the _ or is it because you are so far ahead in the polls _ or is it because you are so far ahead in the polls you - or is it because you are so far ahead in the polls you are - or is it because you are so far- ahead in the polls you are lowering the bar? _ ahead in the polls you are lowering the bar? i— ahead in the polls you are lowering the bar? ., ahead in the polls you are lowering the bar? . ., ., ., the bar? i am not. i am not scaling back our ambition _ the bar? i am not. i am not scaling back our ambition at _ the bar? i am not. i am not scaling back our ambition at all. _ the bar? i am not. i am not scaling back our ambition at all. it - the bar? i am not. i am not scaling back our ambition at all. it is - the bar? i am not. i am not scaling back our ambition at all. it is very l back our ambition at all. it is very important, thank you for raising this. that is the way i have set this. that is the way i have set this out, it has been a strategy i have been operating for four years. it is a strategy which was first to recognise the scale of the defeat of the labour party at the last general
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election and so stage one will change the labour party, change it and turn it inside out. next stage is to expose the government as incompetent, ably assisted by several of their prime ministers. the next stage, which you and others push me too, well now it is clear that you chose the labour party, what are your big ideas for it? that is the missions we set out last year. this is not to reduce the mission, it is to say what is the first down payment on the delivery of those missions? what are the first steps we can take? they are not the only steps, they are the first steps. this is the tangible steps that we will take to deliver on those missions. we are not reducing them, we are putting pressure on those by saying these are the first steps we will take in order to deliver the missions. they
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are there as a long—term ambition, goal, targets, the driving purpose of the incoming labour government. we want to deal with the waiting list but we have still got to change the nhs and make it fit for the future. british energy is one of the first steps towards that. this is absolutely consistent with the strategy i have been operating two forfour strategy i have been operating two for four years. applause i appreciate... so, applause iappreciate... so, beth, that is the way this fits into the missions we want to deliver in government. thank you very much. robert? absolutely everybody was moved by what we _ absolutely everybody was moved by what we heard from nathanial. and his catt— what we heard from nathanial. and his call for— what we heard from nathanial. and his call for hope. we haven't seen
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any rise _ his call for hope. we haven't seen any rise in— his call for hope. we haven't seen any rise in living standards, negligible rises in living standards, for 16 years. your cotteague _ standards, for 16 years. your colleague gordon brown points out that children living in poverty are still at _ that children living in poverty are still at absolute record levels. we have got— still at absolute record levels. we have got the most dangerous world that anyone of us have lived in since — that anyone of us have lived in since the — that anyone of us have lived in since the second world war. we have an al _ since the second world war. we have an ai industrial revolution that may be for— an ai industrial revolution that may be for better or for worse. what will you — be for better or for worse. what will you say to those that what you call your _ will you say to those that what you call your first steps simply aren't ambitious — call your first steps simply aren't ambitious enough?— call your first steps simply aren't ambitious enough? robert, two things about that. ambitious enough? robert, two things about that- in — ambitious enough? robert, two things about that. in relation _ ambitious enough? robert, two things about that. in relation to _ ambitious enough? robert, two things about that. in relation to your - about that. in relation to your first point about hype, i think it is a serious challenge in politics. it is notjust the is a serious challenge in politics. it is not just the failure of the last 14 years, it is that i think they have beaten the hope out of people. they have beaten the hope
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out of people that politics can be a force for good and that change and hope is possible. that is why we have to rebuild that trust and that confidence. and put serious long—term proposals on the table and point out the first steps we are going to take. this is going to take time rebuilding that hope and trust. this is a very different moment to 1997 after the damage that has been donein 1997 after the damage that has been done in the last 14 years. their first steps towards the missions, which are huge will stop imagining nhs fit for the future, imagine clean power by 2030. these are big changes for our country, an economy that works, for everyone in all parts of the country. this is big bold change but it needs first steps. i don't think they are small first steps. if you are on a waiting list, this is a change that matters,
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it makes a massive difference to you. if you cannot pay your bills, these are huge changes. these really matter. the way i look at it, people say, what drives your politics? the answer is that all the people i spoke about, the people it i have in my mind when i make a decision, when i think about these 40,000 positions for the nhs, i am thinking about that particular woman. she was pleading with me not to have to wait another 12 months for her operation. that is a simple example of what everyone is experiencing. that is hype, and that is why these first steps are so important. keir starmer. — steps are so important. keir starmer. a _ steps are so important. keir starmer, a lot _ steps are so important. keir starmer, a lot of— steps are so important. keir starmer, a lot of people - steps are so important. keir starmer, a lot of people thought they knew— starmer, a lot of people thought they knew what _ starmer, a lot of people thought they knew what they _ starmer, a lot of people thought they knew what they were - starmer, a lot of people thoughtl they knew what they were getting when _ they knew what they were getting when they — they knew what they were getting when they made _ they knew what they were getting when they made you _ they knew what they were getting when they made you leader- they knew what they were getting when they made you leader of. they knew what they were getting | when they made you leader of the labour— when they made you leader of the labour party _
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when they made you leader of the labour party. pretty _ when they made you leader of the labour party. pretty quickly - when they made you leader of the labour party. pretty quickly you . labour party. pretty quickly you iunked — labour party. pretty quickly you iunked a — labour party. pretty quickly you iunked a lot _ labour party. pretty quickly you iunked a lot of— labour party. pretty quickly you junked a lot of what _ labour party. pretty quickly you junked a lot of what you - labour party. pretty quickly you junked a lot of what you said i labour party. pretty quickly you junked a lot of what you said he would _ junked a lot of what you said he would do — junked a lot of what you said he would do then. _ junked a lot of what you said he would do then. why— junked a lot of what you said he would do then. why should - junked a lot of what you said he would do then. why should we i junked a lot of what you said he - would do then. why should we have faith in_ would do then. why should we have faith in what — would do then. why should we have faith in what you _ would do then. why should we have faith in what you say _ would do then. why should we have faith in what you say you _ would do then. why should we have faith in what you say you will- would do then. why should we have faith in what you say you will do - faith in what you say you will do now? _ faith in what you say you will do now? ~ ., faith in what you say you will do now? ~ . ,., faith in what you say you will do now? ~ . ., , now? well what i said was, i will chance now? well what i said was, i will change the _ now? well what i said was, i will change the labour _ now? well what i said was, i will change the labour party - now? well what i said was, i will change the labour party so - now? well what i said was, i will change the labour party so that l now? well what i said was, i will. change the labour party so that we can win an election. we had various candidates that started off from quite a big car and went down to a smaller car. i ended every delete mac thing with the same arguments. if any of us had said it is going to make any difference at all, so what i said was i will put us in the position to win a general election. i have been working hard on that for four and a bit years. that is what labour supporters want more than anything. applause
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and that has been the constant work that i have done ever since. i have explained and talked this through in terms of the stages i thought we had to go through as a party. we had to change, you cannot lose an election that badly and say to the electorate what were you doing? you have to look at yourself and say what do i need to change? you have to expose that the government is not fit to govern but then you have to put your ideas on the table for the change you will bring about for the country. we have to do that for the circumstances in 2024. the challenges we face are pretty big and obvious. there is a long list. we have to set out to credible, believable times. we have to have a serious plan for the country, and
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today the first steps are what we would due to stop bring that about. thank you very much. natasha. flare. thank you very much. natasha. care, these pledges — thank you very much. natasha. care, these pledges are _ thank you very much. natasha. care, these pledges are very _ thank you very much. natasha. care, these pledges are very similar- thank you very much. natasha. care, these pledges are very similar to these pledges are very similar to the tories — these pledges are very similar to the tories draw steps. what do you say to— the tories draw steps. what do you say to that? — the tories draw steps. what do you say to that? are you really offering the change — say to that? are you really offering the change that people want to see? this is— the change that people want to see? this is a _ the change that people want to see? this is a tiny— the change that people want to see? this is a tiny blair style pledge, isn't _ this is a tiny blair style pledge, isn't it? — isn't it? laughter let me reject the idea that this is similar... the government says that they are going to stop the boats. more people have come by bait this year, 8000, than any other year. that is a record failure because they are going for a gimmick not a
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serious plan. the government says it is going to get the waiting list down, it is going up. nearly 8 million appointments and operations needed. that is massive, that has never happened in the history of our country. this is fundamentally different. the difference is also political because i am not prepared to do gimmicks, i am only prepared to do gimmicks, i am only prepared to do gimmicks, i am only prepared to do the hard yards of serious change. a serious plan for five years change for this country. that is a political difference between us, their seriousness, if you like, about politics. rhetorical flourishes are great, but if you don't deliver on them, you do the very thing that we have been talking about, which is heat the hope out of people. that is what this is about. thank you very much. ihi people. that is what this is about.
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thank you very much.— people. that is what this is about. thank you very much. hi care. gordon brown yesterday _ thank you very much. hi care. gordon brown yesterday called _ thank you very much. hi care. gordon brown yesterday called for _ thank you very much. hi care. gordon brown yesterday called for the - brown yesterday called for the benefit — brown yesterday called for the benefit limit _ brown yesterday called for the benefit limit to _ brown yesterday called for the benefit limit to be _ brown yesterday called for the benefit limit to be scrapped i brown yesterday called for the i benefit limit to be scrapped and warned — benefit limit to be scrapped and warned that _ benefit limit to be scrapped and warned that the _ benefit limit to be scrapped and warned that the uk _ benefit limit to be scrapped and warned that the uk is— benefit limit to be scrapped and warned that the uk is heading l benefit limit to be scrapped and i warned that the uk is heading for the west— warned that the uk is heading for the west time~ _ warned that the uk is heading for the west time. when _ warned that the uk is heading for the west time. when you - warned that the uk is heading for the west time. when you rethinkl warned that the uk is heading for- the west time. when you rethink your position— the west time. when you rethink your position on— the west time. when you rethink your position on the — the west time. when you rethink your position on the child _ the west time. when you rethink your position on the child poverty? - the west time. when you rethink your position on the child poverty? we. position on the child poverty? we did a position on the child poverty? did a huge amount of work on it. position on the child poverty?“ did a huge amount of work on it. if we are privileged enough to come into serve, we will put a strategy into serve, we will put a strategy in place for it. child poverty cannot be divorced from education, from housing, from the cost of living, from bills down. they are all feeding into the strategy to deal with poverty. what i cannot do is make promises that i cannot deliver on. this is really important to the question about hope because where we have said today now, that there are things that we might want to do but we can't, because the economy has been damaged, i want to say that side of the election. that
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is tough. the easy thing is to pretend that we can deliver it all “p pretend that we can deliver it all up with a nice big wheelbarrow. but if we cannot deliver, i am not going to say it. that is the stable foundation we need in politics. thank you very much. just foundation we need in politics. thank you very much.- foundation we need in politics. thank you very much. just on the secifics thank you very much. just on the specifics about _ thank you very much. just on the specifics about the _ thank you very much. just on the specifics about the gender - thank you very much. just on the l specifics about the gender schools guidance _ specifics about the gender schools guidance that came out today. would you keep _ guidance that came out today. would you keep it— guidance that came out today. would you keep it or would you scrap it? especiatty— you keep it or would you scrap it? especially the part about the ban on teachers _ especially the part about the ban on teachers teaching gender identity? i will teachers teaching gender identity? will look teachers teaching gender identity? i will look at it, look at whether it is far removed from what is happening at the moment. once it has gone through consultation i will look at it. thank you. the gone through consultation i will look at it. thank you. the nature of riorities look at it. thank you. the nature of priorities is — look at it. thank you. the nature of priorities is that _ look at it. thank you. the nature of priorities is that you _ look at it. thank you. the nature of priorities is that you have _ look at it. thank you. the nature of priorities is that you have to - look at it. thank you. the nature of priorities is that you have to leave l priorities is that you have to leave some _ priorities is that you have to leave some things — priorities is that you have to leave some things out. _ priorities is that you have to leave some things out. i— priorities is that you have to leave some things out. iwas— priorities is that you have to leave
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some things out. i was surprised i some things out. i was surprised going _ some things out. i was surprised going through _ some things out. i was surprised going through the _ some things out. i was surprised going through the booklet - some things out. i was surprised going through the booklet that l some things out. i was surprised . going through the booklet that was handed _ going through the booklet that was handed out— going through the booklet that was handed out that _ going through the booklet that was handed out that there _ going through the booklet that was handed out that there was - going through the booklet that was handed out that there was no - going through the booklet that was| handed out that there was no direct mention— handed out that there was no direct mention of— handed out that there was no direct mention of the _ handed out that there was no direct mention of the environment - handed out that there was no direct mention of the environment all- handed out that there was no direct mention of the environment all thel mention of the environment all the climate _ mention of the environment all the climate was— mention of the environment all the climate. was there _ mention of the environment all the climate. was there any _ mention of the environment all the climate. was there any logic- mention of the environment all the climate. was there any logic about| climate. was there any logic about leaving _ climate. was there any logic about leaving out — climate. was there any logic about leaving out such _ climate. was there any logic about leaving out such an _ climate. was there any logic about leaving out such an important - climate. was there any logic about . leaving out such an important issue? you are _ leaving out such an important issue? you are right — leaving out such an important issue? you are right to— leaving out such an important issue? you are right to highlight _ leaving out such an important issue? you are right to highlight the - you are right to highlight the importance of climate. what we are saying about great british energy is the first step to wards clean power 2030. it is a massive contribution to our environmental environmental pledge. it is the way to harness the jobs for the future. it is in there, this is the first step and it is not to take away from the missions but the first step is to set up british energy. as ed said a moment ago, renewable energy is cheaper than fossil fuels. renewable energy is cheaper than fossilfuels. it is renewable energy is cheaper than fossil fuels. it is also the right thing to do for the planet, so that comes under that. thank you. i want
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to ask ou comes under that. thank you. i want to ask you about _ comes under that. thank you. i want to ask you about one _ comes under that. thank you. i want to ask you about one of— comes under that. thank you. i want to ask you about one of your - comes under that. thank you. i want| to ask you about one of your pledges on migration. you have obviously focused _ on migration. you have obviously focused on — on migration. you have obviously focused on tackling the supply side of this— focused on tackling the supply side of this issue, in terms of border controls — of this issue, in terms of border controls that you are setting up. i want _ controls that you are setting up. i want to— controls that you are setting up. i want to ask— controls that you are setting up. i want to ask you about the supplier, what are _ want to ask you about the supplier, what are you doing to tackle the problem — what are you doing to tackle the problem how you can dis— incentivise people _ problem how you can dis— incentivise people from — problem how you can dis— incentivise people from coming here in the first place? _ people from coming here in the first place? do— people from coming here in the first place? do you want to spend more on foreign aid _ place? do you want to spend more on foreign aid to be able to convince people to — foreign aid to be able to convince people to stay in their own countries? i was at your speech about— countries? i was at your speech about to — countries? i was at your speech about 16 months ago where you said you wanted — about 16 months ago where you said you wanted to end the uk's dependency on migration, what are your plans — dependency on migration, what are your plans on that?— your plans on that? thank you for both of those. _ your plans on that? thank you for both of those. let _ your plans on that? thank you for both of those. let me _ your plans on that? thank you for both of those. let me try - your plans on that? thank you for both of those. let me try to - your plans on that? thank you for both of those. let me try to deal| both of those. let me try to deal with both sides of that. people coming here will not be able to get in boats across the channel and use
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their money given to vile gangs to give it —— to do it. those gangs cannot operate in that way. the second deterrent is, if you do come here and you have no right to be her, you will be removed. that is not happening at the moment. by the end of this year we are going to have 100,000 people who got to this country unlawfully. who have not been processed. if they are not processed, they cannot be returned. that is not a deterrent. this government has completely lost control, just as they have lost control, just as they have lost control of everything else. on legal migration, what i was talking about at the speech is that we are over reliance for our skills coming from abroad, because we don't have a skills strategy in this country. lots of businesses say to me i need
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the skills. if they are near me, great, if not i need to get them from abroad. we have to crack that. it doesn't make any sense to go on and on without a skills strategy. went round the country talking to businesses, and amongst the things we discussed was what was the biggest inhibitor of rice in your business. they said to me, i cannot get the skills i need. this has been going on a very, very, longtime. we going on a very, very, longtime. we go round and round in circles and get absolutely nowhere. i don't want to carry on like that. this is about not being prepared to do the stuff that doesn't change the fundamentals. thank you. tony blair had five pledges _ fundamentals. thank you. tony blair had five pledges on _ fundamentals. thank you. tony blair had five pledges on his _ fundamentals. thank you. tony blair had five pledges on his card, - fundamentals. thank you. tony blair had five pledges on his card, you - had five pledges on his card, you have _ had five pledges on his card, you have six— had five pledges on his card, you
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have six today _ had five pledges on his card, you have six today. tony _ had five pledges on his card, you have six today. tony blair - had five pledges on his card, you have six today. tony blair had i had five pledges on his card, you i have six today. tony blair had new labour, _ have six today. tony blair had new labour, you — have six today. tony blair had new labour, you had _ have six today. tony blair had new labour, you had change _ have six today. tony blair had new labour, you had change labour. i have six today. tony blair had new. labour, you had change labour. tony blair used _ labour, you had change labour. tony blair used to — labour, you had change labour. tony blair used to take _ labour, you had change labour. tony blair used to take his _ labour, you had change labour. tony blair used to take his tie _ labour, you had change labour. tony blair used to take his tie tie - labour, you had change labour. tony blair used to take his tie tie off, - blair used to take his tie tie off, you are — blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not _ blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not wearing _ blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not wearing a _ blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not wearing a tie. - blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not wearing a tie. are . you are not wearing a tie. are you notjust— you are not wearing a tie. are you notjust a — you are not wearing a tie. are you notjust a copycat? _ not just a copycat? laughter- laughter the first thing i would say about tony blair, which is more important about taking his tie off, is that he won three elections in a row. applause and what blair did in 1997, is what wilson did in 74. that was to take the labour party from opposition to power. they have done it three times. the thing that unites them is the ability to glimpse the future and to dissuade people to go on that journey to a changed future. that
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persuade people. i do think you have got to glimpse the future and understand the challenges. it is not co cat understand the challenges. it is not copycat because — understand the challenges. it is not copycat because we _ understand the challenges. it is not copycat because we are _ understand the challenges. it is not copycat because we are now - understand the challenges. it is not copycat because we are now 27 - understand the challenges. it is not. copycat because we are now 27 years on from 1997. the challenges we face now are not the same as those faced by tony blair. they are different. therefore i do understand that there is this presence of the leader of the labour party. which leader are you like? who do you have tattooed on the inside of your arm? the answer is none of them. this team and i, all of our candidates and i, we have to face the future. we are trying to create the conditions for the fourth time in the history of the fourth time in the history of the labour party. we have come from opposition into power. yes, some of the things that are important about
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winning power are the same, of course they are. i'm very conscious that we are facing the challenges that we are facing the challenges that are now here in 2024. thank you, ben. second right, you have previously talked _ second right, you have previously talked about winning over swing voters _ talked about winning over swing voters in — talked about winning over swing voters in seats like these. two weeks — voters in seats like these. two weeks ago, however, parts of labour's — weeks ago, however, parts of labour's traditional voter base abandon— labour's traditional voter base abandon you over issues like gaza. how do _ abandon you over issues like gaza. how do you — abandon you over issues like gaza. how do you propose to win them back in the _ how do you propose to win them back in the lead _ how do you propose to win them back in the lead up to the election? thank— in the lead up to the election? thank you _ in the lead up to the election? thank you for that question because it is really important that we win over voters who haven't voted for us before which is why i was so pleased to be introduced today. firstly, i would say if you look at those local elections, i think we showed that we can win anywhere. we had a really
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successful set of elections, if you look at them in the round. that was the last time anyone will vote effectively before the general election. it was a good set of results for us. but the challenge you put to me is a really important one and i think part of the answer to that is to be clear that the missions that we are setting out for the future of our country, i have said it is a decade of national renewal, that is a national project. so, you don't have to be tribally labour to want your family, your community, your country to improve sub in fact, i believe most reasonable people want that. so, i say that this is a project which is a project that i think most people, whether they voted labour in the past, whether they might vote labour now or whether they have never voted labour, could be part of this project because i genuinely think, it is at the heart of my politics, i
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genuinely think that most reasonable, tolerant

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