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we'll have a live debate, looking at the runners and riders to replace humza yousaf as first minister. our correspondent witnesses first—hand a confrontation between chinese and filipino coastguard ships in the disputed south china sea. a leaked document — obtained by the bbc — suggests an iranian teenager, who vanished during anti—government protests, was sexually assaulted and killed by security forces. and king charles returns to public engagements today with a visit to a cancer treatment centre. more now on one of our top stories — what's next for scotland?
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a police arrest after a critical incident was declared in hainault. a man with a sword has been arrested. the statement from police says that they were called shortly before seven o'clock to report other vehicle driven into a house in the thurlow gardens area and there were reports that people have been stabbed. this is what they know so far, this is what they are telling us from the statement. at this time, we understand the suspect went on to attack other members of the public as well as two police officers. they said that they are waiting for an update on the condition of those injured because a reminder, reports that several people have been stabbed. we do have those updates on our live page. more details on the person who has been arrested. this is again from the police statement,
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from the met police. 36—year—old man was arrested at the scene and he is in custody. the deputy assistant commissioner has said, this must have been a terrifying incident for those concerned. i know the wider community will be feeling shock and alarm. people will want to know what has happened and well we provide more information, they say they will as soon as they can. they have also said, and this is important, that they do not believe there is any ongoing threat to the wider community. they are not looking for more suspects and they have also said that this incident does not appear to be terror —related. so i want to bring you that information again. this is to do with the critical incident in hainault. there is a man, 36 years old, who has been arrested. again, those details on how live page —— on our live page.
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there are reports that several people have been stabbed. you can see from our live page, there is that police response there and that he is in custody. this information is important for people in the area, they do not believe that this is a terror —related incident. they don't believe that there is any ongoing threat to the wider community, despite that police presence people in the error might be witnessing. and they are not looking for more suspects. they realise that the wider community will be feeling shock and alarm, though, at this incident. a reminder, a report that several people have been stabbed and the police says that they are waiting for an update on the condition of those injured. i do add you to —— urge you to check our live page because we will put as much information as we can, as much
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witness testimony, as we can in there as well updates from the police to understand exactly what happened there. a reminder of that police statement that they do not believe that this was a terror —related incident. and they don't believe there is any ongoing threat to the wider community. more now on one of our top stories — what's next for scotland? the scottish national party has started the process of finding a new leader, after humza yousaf announced his resignation as scotland's first minister. he quit, rather than face two no—confidence votes at holyrood, which were due to be held after his decision to end the snp�*s power—sharing agreement with the scottish greens. joining me now is snp activist and columnist with the nationalist, kelly given. scottish green activist, jen bell, who started a petition questioning the future of the deal between the greens and snp, which led to humza yousaf quitting. lauren harperfrom
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scottish young labour. and emma farquharfrom the scottish conservatives. thank you, all four of you for joining us to discuss this. kelly, i want to start with you because humza yousaf said he made a mistake. there was that messy political divorce. do you believe that the snp need to repair that relationship with the greens? i repair that relationship with the greens? ., ~' repair that relationship with the greens? ., ~ ,., ~ greens? i do think so. i think there have been — greens? i do think so. i think there have been to _ greens? i do think so. i think there have been to size _ greens? i do think so. i think there have been to size the _ greens? i do think so. i think there have been to size the less - greens? i do think so. i think there have been to size the less because| greens? i do think so. i think there l have been to size the less because i think the reason that the bute house agreement broke down in the first place is because the agreement was destabilised by the greens themselves and so i do think that humza yousaf needed to end the bute house agreement, i think the way that he did it was probably the reason it went the way that it did. i don't think that all is lost. i do think that their relationship can be repaired and i think the next leader will be able to do that. jen.
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repaired and i think the next leader will be able to do that.— will be able to do that. jen, do you auree will be able to do that. jen, do you a . ree that will be able to do that. jen, do you agree that there _ will be able to do that. jen, do you agree that there was _ will be able to do that. jen, do you agree that there was a _ will be able to do that. jen, do you agree that there was a problem - will be able to do that. jen, do you | agree that there was a problem with that agreement and that humza yousaf just went about fixing it in the wrong way? he wasn't really trying to fix it, was he?— to fix it, was he? there is a combination _ to fix it, was he? there is a combination of _ to fix it, was he? there is a combination of issues - to fix it, was he? there is a combination of issues that l to fix it, was he? there is a i combination of issues that led to fix it, was he? there is a - combination of issues that led to us starting _ combination of issues that led to us starting the petition, it all started _ starting the petition, it all started with humza yousaf himself when _ started with humza yousaf himself when he _ started with humza yousaf himself when he stood up at his party conference and announced a regressive council tax rate behind our backs — regressive council tax rate behind our backs. we do know about it. that was the _ our backs. we do know about it. that was the beginning of the end for his premiership. mummy had a scrapping of the _ premiership. mummy had a scrapping of the -- _ premiership. mummy had a scrapping of the —— when we had a scrapping of the targets, — of the —— when we had a scrapping of the targets, and we have had attacks on gender— the targets, and we have had attacks on gender affirming care, issue after— on gender affirming care, issue after issue _ on gender affirming care, issue after issue was culminating. we haven't— after issue was culminating. we haven't had a discussion on the future — haven't had a discussion on the future of— haven't had a discussion on the future of the bute house agreement. there _ future of the bute house agreement. there are _ future of the bute house agreement. there are people in my party won the agreement— there are people in my party won the agreement to continue, there were some _ agreement to continue, there were some who — agreement to continue, there were some who wanted it to end, there were _ some who wanted it to end, there were many— some who wanted it to end, there were many who were undecided. our
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internat— were many who were undecided. our internal processes were so that we could _ internal processes were so that we could have — internal processes were so that we could have that robust democratic, and we _ could have that robust democratic, and we wanted to see them make the case to— and we wanted to see them make the case to ask— and we wanted to see them make the case to ask the continued cooperation. but what instead what he did _ cooperation. but what instead what he did last — cooperation. but what instead what he did last week was sign a tear of the agreement and turned the socially— the agreement and turned the socially conservative aggressive wing _ socially conservative aggressive wing of — socially conservative aggressive wing of his own party and i didn't expect— wing of his own party and i didn't expect him — wing of his own party and i didn't expect him to torpedo his own career in such— expect him to torpedo his own career in such a _ expect him to torpedo his own career in such a spectacular fashion. but if he _ in such a spectacular fashion. but if he respected our internal democracy and respected his own party's _ democracy and respected his own party's internal democracy, he might still have _ party's internal democracy, he might still have a _ party's internal democracy, he might still have a job. you party's internal democracy, he might still have a job.— still have a “ob. you are talking about still have a job. you are talking about social _ still have a job. you are talking about social conservativism - still have a job. you are talking i about social conservativism there. you support your party if they were to make a deal with an snp candidate he was against gay marriage, he was against abortion? that he was against gay marriage, he was against abortion?— against abortion? that is not going to ha en against abortion? that is not going to happen because _ against abortion? that is not going to happen because we _ against abortion? that is not going to happen because we made - against abortion? that is not going to happen because we made it - against abortion? that is not going. to happen because we made it quite clear that _ to happen because we made it quite clear that we are the only party left in — clear that we are the only party left in scotland that is fighting for a _ left in scotland that is fighting
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for a progressive, inclusive, independent scotland. we do that consistently with unlike the snp, where _ consistently with unlike the snp, where we — consistently with unlike the snp, where we don't know who we are going to get _ where we don't know who we are going to get we _ where we don't know who we are going to get. we made our values clear and we will— to get. we made our values clear and we will work— to get. we made our values clear and we will work with people constructively across the chamber to support _ constructively across the chamber to support those values and we can't work— support those values and we can't work with— support those values and we can't work with people who don't. lauren, we are talking _ work with people who don't. lauren, we are talking there _ work with people who don't. lauren, we are talking there about _ work with people who don't. lauren, we are talking there about making i work with people who don't. lauren, | we are talking there about making up the greens and the snp making up. but what about labour? i imagine you believe there is a big opportunity there for scottish labour? absolutely but what we can't ignore is the _ absolutely but what we can't ignore is the fact _ absolutely but what we can't ignore is the fact that _ absolutely but what we can't ignore is the fact that this _ absolutely but what we can't ignore is the fact that this was _ absolutely but what we can't ignore is the fact that this was frankly, - is the fact that this was frankly, and that— is the fact that this was frankly, and that was— is the fact that this was frankly, and that was outrageous - is the fact that this was frankly, and that was outrageous was i is the fact that this was frankly, | and that was outrageous was up is the fact that this was frankly, . and that was outrageous was up it was greens— and that was outrageous was up it was greens grassroots _ and that was outrageous was up it was greens grassroots members i and that was outrageous was up it. was greens grassroots members who are holding _ was greens grassroots members who are holding him— was greens grassroots members who are holding him to _ was greens grassroots members who are holding him to account— was greens grassroots members who are holding him to account about - are holding him to account about scrapping — are holding him to account about scrapping targets _ are holding him to account about scrapping targets. we _ are holding him to account about scrapping targets. we want - are holding him to account about scrapping targets. we want the i scrapping targets. we want the planet — scrapping targets. we want the planet to — scrapping targets. we want the planet to live _ scrapping targets. we want the planet to live on _ scrapping targets. we want the planet to live on in _ scrapping targets. we want the planet to live on in 50 - scrapping targets. we want the planet to live on in 50 years. i scrapping targets. we want the i planet to live on in 50 years. he
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was frankly— planet to live on in 50 years. he was frankly cowardly. _ planet to live on in 50 years. he was frankly cowardly. we - planet to live on in 50 years. he was frankly cowardly. we knowl planet to live on in 50 years. he - was frankly cowardly. we know now from alex _ was frankly cowardly. we know now from alex salmond, _ was frankly cowardly. we know now from alex salmond, that _ was frankly cowardly. we know now from alex salmond, that humza - was frankly cowardly. we know now - from alex salmond, that humza yousaf are still— from alex salmond, that humza yousaf are still trying _ from alex salmond, that humza yousaf are still trying to — from alex salmond, that humza yousaf are still trying to do _ from alex salmond, that humza yousaf are still trying to do a _ from alex salmond, that humza yousaf are still trying to do a deal— from alex salmond, that humza yousaf are still trying to do a deal up _ are still trying to do a deal up till 730 — are still trying to do a deal up till 730 monday— are still trying to do a deal up till 730 monday morning. - are still trying to do a deal up till 730 monday morning. sol are still trying to do a deal up - till 730 monday morning. so don't buy the _ till 730 monday morning. so don't buy the narrative _ till 730 monday morning. so don't buy the narrative being _ till 730 monday morning. so don't buy the narrative being pushed i till 730 monday morning. so don't buy the narrative being pushed byj buy the narrative being pushed by the snp _ buy the narrative being pushed by the snp that— buy the narrative being pushed by the snp that this _ buy the narrative being pushed by the snp that this was _ buy the narrative being pushed by the snp that this was a _ buy the narrative being pushed by the snp that this was a dignified i the snp that this was a dignified exit _ the snp that this was a dignified exit what— the snp that this was a dignified exit what we _ the snp that this was a dignified exit. what we witnessed - the snp that this was a dignified exit. what we witnessed was - the snp that this was a dignified exit. what we witnessed was a l the snp that this was a dignified i exit. what we witnessed was a man the snp that this was a dignified - exit. what we witnessed was a man he was so _ exit. what we witnessed was a man he was so self— exit. what we witnessed was a man he was so self interested _ exit. what we witnessed was a man he was so self interested in _ exit. what we witnessed was a man he was so self interested in regarding - was so self interested in regarding saving _ was so self interested in regarding saving his — was so self interested in regarding saving his own— was so self interested in regarding saving his own political— was so self interested in regarding saving his own political skin - was so self interested in regarding saving his own political skin whichl saving his own political skin which has backfired _ saving his own political skin which has backfired on— saving his own political skin which has backfired on him _ saving his own political skin which has backfired on him completely. | has backfired on him completely. after— has backfired on him completely. after almost _ has backfired on him completely. after almost two _ has backfired on him completely. after almost two decades - has backfired on him completely. after almost two decades of - has backfired on him completely. after almost two decades of snp| after almost two decades of snp failure, _ after almost two decades of snp failure, itn— after almost two decades of snp failure, int 22, _ after almost two decades of snp failure, i'm 22, i— after almost two decades of snp failure, i'm 22, i don't— after almost two decades of snp| failure, i'm 22, i don't remember after almost two decades of snp . failure, i'm 22, i don't remember a scottand— failure, i'm 22, i don't remember a scotland that — failure, i'm 22, i don't remember a scotland that wasn't _ failure, i'm 22, i don't remember a scotland that wasn't a _ failure, i'm 22, i don't remember a scotland that wasn't a threat - failure, i'm 22, i don't remember a scotland that wasn't a threat in - failure, i'm 22, i don't remember a scotland that wasn't a threat in the failures— scotland that wasn't a threat in the failures of— scotland that wasn't a threat in the failures of the _ scotland that wasn't a threat in the failures of the snp. _ scotland that wasn't a threat in the failures of the snp. i— scotland that wasn't a threat in the failures of the snp. i doubt - scotland that wasn't a threat in the failures of the snp. i doubt the - failures of the snp. i doubt the greens— failures of the snp. i doubt the greens witt— failures of the snp. i doubt the greens will take _ failures of the snp. i doubt the greens will take over— failures of the snp. i doubt the greens will take over the - failures of the snp. i doubt the| greens will take over the tories percentage _ greens will take over the tories percentage wise _ greens will take over the tories percentage wise but _ greens will take over the tories percentage wise but honestly, i really— percentage wise but honestly, i really hope _ percentage wise but honestly, i really hope they— percentage wise but honestly, i really hope they do _ percentage wise but honestly, i really hope they do because - percentage wise but honestly, i. really hope they do because there could _ really hope they do because there could he _ really hope they do because there could be nothing _ really hope they do because there could be nothing better— really hope they do because there could be nothing better for- could be nothing better for scottand~ _ could be nothing better for scotland-— could be nothing better for scotland. , ., ., , ., scotland. kelly, i want to give you a chance to _ scotland. kelly, i want to give you a chance to respond _ scotland. kelly, i want to give you a chance to respond to _
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scotland. kelly, i want to give you a chance to respond to that. - scotland. kelly, i want to give you a chance to respond to that. do i scotland. kelly, i want to give you. a chance to respond to that. do you think that this would have shaken the public�*s trust in the snp being able to deliver stable governance here? i able to deliver stable governance here? ~ able to deliver stable governance here? ,, ., , able to deliver stable governance here? ~ ., , , able to deliver stable governance here? ,, , . .,., . here? i think it has been chaotic times of the _ here? i think it has been chaotic times of the snp _ here? i think it has been chaotic times of the snp in _ here? i think it has been chaotic times of the snp in the - here? i think it has been chaotic times of the snp in the last - here? i think it has been chaotic i times of the snp in the last couple of years. the departure of nicola sturgeon was only going to bring about that chaos and stability. i don't disagree that humza yousaf made a bad decision last week. what i don't agree with is this idea that the greens and labour are any better. i think the greens were getting ready to line up behind the tories to support a motion of no confidence. so we're not going to support people who don't share values. how you can line up behind the tories in the face of a progressive government, it doesn't make sense. i don't disagree that there is kales and instability but what i will say is that the snp will come back from it. —— chaos. jen. come back from it. -- chaos. jen, ou are come back from it. -- chaos. jen, you are shaking — come back from it. -- chaos. jen, you are shaking your _ come back from it. —— chaos. jen, you are shaking your head. do you
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want to respond? i you are shaking your head. do you want to respond?— want to respond? i will not take lectures on _ want to respond? i will not take lectures on us _ want to respond? i will not take lectures on us holding - want to respond? i will not take lectures on us holding values. l want to respond? i will not take - lectures on us holding values. humza yousaf— lectures on us holding values. humza yousaf was _ lectures on us holding values. humza yousaf was the one who decided to tear up— yousaf was the one who decided to tear up the — yousaf was the one who decided to tear up the agreement. his predecessor went into an agreement with us— predecessor went into an agreement with us and — predecessor went into an agreement with us and members of both parties voted _ with us and members of both parties voted to— with us and members of both parties voted to adopt, based on mutual trust _ voted to adopt, based on mutual trust and — voted to adopt, based on mutual trust and respect. and he was the one he _ trust and respect. and he was the one he decided to tell that up. he is out _ one he decided to tell that up. he is out of— one he decided to tell that up. he is out of the job now because of failures— is out of the job now because of failures of— is out of the job now because of failures of his own doing. he has created — failures of his own doing. he has created this chaos and this instability so i don't accept that. i instability so i don't accept that. i don't _ instability so i don't accept that. i don't disagree i have said that already, he has made a bad decision and he is now paying the price for it. but i think another point was made is that he has done this out of self interest when actually, if you are doing this out of self interest, he would have continued and made a deal without the. he didn't and made a deal... sign that he respected us as partners in the corporation, then he would have a job. he is well
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within his rights as the first minister of the country to end this agreement. i am sorry if feelings were hurt. to agreement. i am sorry if feelings were hurt-— agreement. i am sorry if feelings were hurt. ., ., were hurt. to both your point about the little incivility _ were hurt. to both your point about the little incivility that _ were hurt. to both your point about the little incivility that this - were hurt. to both your point about the little incivility that this has - the little incivility that this has created, jen, do you believe that the grains were right to react the way that they did and essentially react quite passionately about the way that bute house agreement was torn up —— greens? way that bute house agreement was torn up -- greens?— torn up -- greens? agreement was based on mutual _ torn up -- greens? agreement was based on mutual respect _ torn up -- greens? agreement was based on mutual respect and - torn up -- greens? agreement was based on mutual respect and trust. | based on mutual respect and trust. where _ based on mutual respect and trust. where we — based on mutual respect and trust. where we work together on values that we _ where we work together on values that we shared, and while we have seen _ that we shared, and while we have seen those — that we shared, and while we have seen those values, those issues that matter— seen those values, those issues that matter to _ seen those values, those issues that matter to our members and i was like the scrapping and the attacks on working—class education, like the attacks— working—class education, like the attacks on— working—class education, like the attacks on gender affirming care, attack— attacks on gender affirming care, attack after attack on our values, we have — attack after attack on our values, we have to — attack after attack on our values, we have to have a serious discussion about— we have to have a serious discussion about the _ we have to have a serious discussion about the future of the agreement. we don't _
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about the future of the agreement. we don't get a say any more because hens are _ we don't get a say any more because hens are users of —— humza yousaf decided _ hens are users of —— humza yousaf decided to— hens are users of —— humza yousaf decided to tear it up. let hens are users of -- humza yousaf decided to tear it up.— decided to tear it up. let me bring in and there _ decided to tear it up. let me bring in and there because _ decided to tear it up. let me bring in and there because there - decided to tear it up. let me bring in and there because there is - decided to tear it up. let me bring in and there because there is a - in and there because there is a question for the scottish conservatives here as well. i want to read something douglas ross said at the party conference. he said, when the pro—uk majority unites, we can beat the snp. you see conservative voters uniting with labour ones, emma? i conservative voters uniting with labour ones, emma?— conservative voters uniting with labour ones, emma? i think douglas ross motion — labour ones, emma? i think douglas ross motion of _ labour ones, emma? i think douglas ross motion of no _ labour ones, emma? i think douglas ross motion of no confidence - labour ones, emma? i think douglas ross motion of no confidence reallyl ross motion of no confidence really brought everything to a head last week. it is what ultimately made humza yousaf�*s position untenable. i think that was douglas ross�* leadership and presenting her strong opposition. i think it is good for scotland going forward that we try and get through this and hopefully get onto a path of a bit more
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stability and focus on the issues, education, hospitals, these things that matter to people up and down the country. and that affect our day—to—day lives. find the country. and that affect our day-to-day lives.— the country. and that affect our day-to-day lives. and lauren, is that something _ day-to-day lives. and lauren, is that something that _ day-to-day lives. and lauren, is that something that would - day-to-day lives. and lauren, is that something that would make day-to-day lives. and lauren, is- that something that would make sense to you in terms of this opportunity that presents itself the labour that that presents itself the labour that that sort of anti—independence movement union would make sense? i movement union would make sense? i want to see a tory free scotland and that means — want to see a tory free scotland and that means the _ want to see a tory free scotland and that means the conservative - want to see a tory free scotland and that means the conservative party. that means the conservative party and the _ that means the conservative party and the tories _ that means the conservative party and the tories within _ that means the conservative party and the tories within the - that means the conservative party and the tories within the snp. - that means the conservative party and the tories within the snp. i i and the tories within the snp. i want _ and the tories within the snp. i want to— and the tories within the snp. i want to bring _ and the tories within the snp. i want to bring up— and the tories within the snp. i want to bring up a _ and the tories within the snp. i want to bring up a point- and the tories within the snp. i want to bring up a point that. and the tories within the snp. i i want to bring up a point that kelly made _ want to bring up a point that kelly made about— want to bring up a point that kelly made about us _ want to bring up a point that kelly made about us lining _ want to bring up a point that kelly made about us lining up _ want to bring up a point that kelly made about us lining up to- want to bring up a point that kelly made about us lining up to pit- want to bring up a point that kelly made about us lining up to pit in. want to bring up a point that kellyj made about us lining up to pit in a vote of— made about us lining up to pit in a vote of no— made about us lining up to pit in a vote of no confidence _ made about us lining up to pit in a vote of no confidence that - made about us lining up to pit in a vote of no confidence that was - made about us lining up to pit in aj vote of no confidence that was put forward _ vote of no confidence that was put forward by— vote of no confidence that was put forward by douglas _ vote of no confidence that was put forward by douglas ross. - vote of no confidence that was put forward by douglas ross. the - forward by douglas ross. the government— forward by douglas ross. the government from _ forward by douglas ross. the government from 2070 - forward by douglas ross. the government from 2070 2011 i forward by douglas ross. the - government from 2070 2011 relied heavily— government from 2070 2011 relied heavily on — government from 2070 2011 relied
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heavily on the _ government from 2070 2011 relied heavily on the tories. _ government from 2070 2011 relied heavily on the tories. wiest - government from 2070 2011 relied heavily on the tories. wiest saw i government from 2070 2011 relied i heavily on the tories. wiest saw how they treat _ heavily on the tories. wiest saw how they treat the — heavily on the tories. wiest saw how they treat the care _ heavily on the tories. wiest saw how they treat the care assistance - they treat the care assistance during — they treat the care assistance during the _ they treat the care assistance during the pandemic, - they treat the care assistance during the pandemic, we - they treat the care assistancel during the pandemic, we have they treat the care assistance - during the pandemic, we have seen how locai— during the pandemic, we have seen how local councils— during the pandemic, we have seen how local councils have _ during the pandemic, we have seen how local councils have been - how local councils have been decimated _ how local councils have been decimated by— how local councils have been decimated by snp _ how local councils have been decimated by snp cuts - how local councils have been decimated by snp cuts in. how local councils have been - decimated by snp cuts in scotland. and we _ decimated by snp cuts in scotland. and we have — decimated by snp cuts in scotland. and we have seen _ decimated by snp cuts in scotland. and we have seen how— decimated by snp cuts in scotland. and we have seen how they- decimated by snp cuts in scotland. and we have seen how they are - and we have seen how they are cutting — and we have seen how they are cutting higher— and we have seen how they are cutting higher education. - and we have seen how they are cutting higher education. i - and we have seen how they are cutting higher education. i am. and we have seen how they are i cutting higher education. lam no nationalist, — cutting higher education. lam no nationalist, i_ cutting higher education. lam no nationalist, i am not _ cutting higher education. lam no nationalist, i am not a _ cutting higher education. iam no nationalist, i am not a british- nationalist, lam not a british nationalist _ nationalist, iam not a british nationalist or— nationalist, lam not a british nationalist or scottish - nationalist, i am not a british- nationalist or scottish nationalist. i nationalist or scottish nationalist. idon't _ nationalist or scottish nationalist. idon't think— nationalist or scottish nationalist. i don't think independence - nationalist or scottish nationalist. i don't think independence is - nationalist or scottish nationalist. i don't think independence is the i i don't think independence is the most _ i don't think independence is the most important _ i don't think independence is the most important issue _ i don't think independence is the most important issue here. - i don't think independence is the | most important issue here. what i don't think independence is the i most important issue here. what i want _ most important issue here. what i want to— most important issue here. what i want to see — most important issue here. what i want to see as _ most important issue here. what i want to see as a _ most important issue here. what i want to see as a country— most important issue here. what i want to see as a country that - 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we are bringing you more on the critical incident that has been declared in the hainault area of east london today. in the last half an hour, police have confirmed that an hour, police have confirmed that a serious incident took place in which a man with a sword has been arrested. police issued a statement which said that they were called shortly before seven o�*clock this morning to report of a vehicle being driven into a house in the thurlow gardens area. they said that at that time there were reports of people being stabbed. the police statement said, at this time, we understand the suspect went on to attack other members of the public and to police officers. they say they are waiting an update on the condition of those injured. so we don�*t have a confirmed number of people injured but we do know that the injured
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include two police officers and members of the public. the police say they are awaiting an update on the condition of those injured. as i said, we have been working to verify pictures from the scene and this is the latest that we have verified from the scene. you can see a man with a knife in his hands. it is a large knife. so there, you can see that has been frozen there. that is a man with a knife that, those are the latest moment that he met images we have been able to verify from the scene was a police air 36—year—old man was arrested at the scene and he is in custody. this must have been a terrifying incident for all those concerned. he says that he knows that the wider community will be feeling shock and alarm and that people want to know what happened
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and the police say they will provide more information as soon as they can. this is the video that has been circulating on social media that we have had verified. you can see a man with a knife in that footage, moving around in what looks like to be a housing area in hainault. it is a big night, as you can see, on that frozen image on the screen. the police saying they don�*t believe this incident is terror —related and crucially, they do not believe that there is any ongoing threat to the wider community. as the police acknowledged, it must have been a terrifying incident for those people who were in the area at the time. but they say that they don�*t believe there is any ongoing threat to the wider community. let me bring in my colleague courtney bembridge, who is in the newsroom, who is monitoring all of these developments. the
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people who are justjoining us, bring us up—to—date on what has happened? bring us up-to-date on what has happened?— bring us up-to-date on what has ha ened? ~ ., ., ,, ., ., happened? what we do know at the moment is that _ happened? what we do know at the moment is that several _ happened? what we do know at the moment is that several people - happened? what we do know at the | moment is that several people were stabbed in this incident but police have not yet confirmed how many or the nature of their injuries. that is still being pieced together. we also know that a 36 row man was arrested at the scene and there is pictures you have just brought there have been circulated on social media throughout the morning —— 36—year—old. we can now verify those police have described that knife in a man�*s and as a sword and you can see in the pictures, a very large knife and in a very residential area. this is an area about an hour out from central london, a very busy train line on the central line. you can see just how dense those houses are. just before seven o�*clock in the morning that this incident started and it�*s started with a car hitting a house in that area, thurlow gardens and then not long after, the man was reportedly
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crouching down outside people�*s homes and there were reports that he was targeting strangers there. we do know that police have said they don�*t believe it is terror —related incident but people in the area, and absolutely terrifying ordeal first thing in the morning was up you can see these are pictures that members of the public have filmed while they were trying to work out what was going on. the local train station there closed and people trying to work out what had happened. very early on, there are reports that four people had been stabbed but that has not yet been confirmed by the police and the met police have so far just the police and the met police have so farjust said the police and the met police have so far just said that a the police and the met police have so farjust said that a number of people have been hurt and injured in this incident. we know also that they don�*t believe that there is any ongoing threat to the community and they believe that there are no more suspects, that this man was acting alone as i said, he was arrested at the scene. we also had from the
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local mp quite early on in this incident. it comes across the mud against a backdrop of people showing unverified videos. the local mp for that area said a critical incident has been declared in hainault. there are locations in place, emergency services are responding. i would urge people not to speculate until details have been confirmed or posed images on social media. we are looking at images that have been verified since that. these are the kind of images that have been circulating on social media throughout the morning. nowadays, everyone has a camera on their phone. we get a lot of these videos before we get a details of the instead. in this case, that police had to very quickly issue a statement and of course, the local mp, waste rating has —— had to
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address that. also, the fact that these images were so cagey on social media very quickly. you can see that police helicopter that was sent very early up to the area. that area has been contained and people have been told to stay away from the area. this was the scene at residence in north—east london woke up to. you can see that man, you can see the size of that knife described by police as a sword. we know that he was arrested at the scene and he is 36 years old and police believe he was acting alone. and they believe that it was not an instant linked to terror. and i didn�*t hold any radical ideation. —— he didn�*t hold. for these people, and absolutely terrifying ordeal first thing for these people, and absolutely terrifying ordealfirst thing in for these people, and absolutely terrifying ordeal first thing in the morning. we don�*t have many details about the start of his incident,
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which police say was a car hitting a home in othello gardens area. police say this happen at around seven o�*clock this morning and it was the beginning of this terrifying incident this morning. as you can see here, this man is the one he was arrested at the scene and he can be seen here crouching their people�*s front doors and absolutely terrifying ordeal. my mac if you are justjoining us, courtney has been saying the footage you can see on screen, there has been a lot of social media footage that has been posted of this incident. fiur social media footage that has been posted of this incident.— social media footage that has been posted of this incident. our team at bbc verify have _ posted of this incident. our team at bbc verify have very _ posted of this incident. our team at bbc verify have very tad _ posted of this incident. our team at bbc verify have very tad had - bbc verify have very tad had affected you see on screen. this is the first images of the alleged attacker in hainault this morning and you can see that the alleged attacker is carrying a large knife and police have confirmed that it is and police have confirmed that it is
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a serious incident. a man with a sword has been arrested. we have also had a statement from the london fire brigade. all of the emergency services have been called to the scene. a spokesperson for london fire brigade said that firefighters were mobilised to assist police and the london ambulance service colleagues at that incident near hainault underground station. crews supported london ambulance service crews in the provision of immediate emergency care. they were called at 745 this morning. they said the incident was over by 924. they had many cruise from the surrounding fire stations attending. they helped the london ambulance service in the provision of that emergency care at the scene because the police have
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confirmed that a number of people have been injured. we don�*t know how many people other than the police say the suspect went on to attack members of the public and two police officers, so we do know that at least two police officers are amongst those who have been injured. the police in the later statement said that they were awaiting detail on the condition of those who had been injured. the 36—year—old man arrested at the scene, is in custody. we will show these pictures again, which as i say, have been verified by our team at bbc verify and they show the alleged attacker. you team crouching down near houses in the hainault area of london. as you can see from the images, it is quite a large knife that he was carrying. the police describing it as a sword. they are saying that the
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good news is that they don�*t believe there is any ongoing threat to the wider community. they are not looking for any more suspects and that the incident does not appear to be terror —related. transport for london, of course, say that the tube station is closed, but you can imagine, of course there are so much police activity around that area. it is not a surprise that hainault tube station is close. we of course have been saying that this incident happened around seven o�*clock this morning when police were first called to report of that vehicle being driven into a house in the furlough gardens area of east london. of course, seven o�*clock in the morning is the start of will be the morning is the start of will be the rush hour as people are making their way to work and hainault is of course on the central line on the
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central cheap line which means that a lot of people will use that to get into central london if they are working in central london. as a deputy assistant commissioner said in a statement, it must have been a terrifying incident for all of those who were concerned, which of course we have said. one man he was at the scene said that he was anxious to get home afterfinding scene said that he was anxious to get home after finding what had happened. he described he was walking to the station and saw nablus heading towards the scene. —— an ambulance. he said the road was blocked either side of the station entrance. i want to show you a post that the home secretary james cleverly has just posted. he says, i am being regularly updated about the incident at hainault station this morning. he says my thoughts are with those who are affected and
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thank you to the emergency responders. he said he would urge people not to speculate or share footage online and provide relevant information to the police. so that statement that has just been posted from james cleverly, the home secretary. don�*t forget, we have a live page up and running with the very latest hero bbc news. we are bringing the news that her has been a serious incident in hainault in east london. a man has been arrested after what police are saying was a sword incident. the man arrested carrying a sword and we have had pictures verified by bbc verify from the scene. and you can see in that footage that there is a man carrying a large knife, which police have described as a sword. they say they were called just before seven
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o�*clock this morning to reports of the vehicle being driven into a house in othello gardens area. there are reports of people being stabbed. they sit at that time, the suspect went on to attack other member bits of the public —— members of the public and two police officers. we do know that two police officers are amongst those injured. the 36—year—old man who was arrested at the scene is now in custody and the police saying they do not believe that there is any ongoing threat to the wider community. they say they are not looking for more suspects and they say that this incident does not appear to be terror —related. you are watching bbc news. let me recap on the braking news this morning, there has been a critical
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incident on the hainault area of north—east london. a man has been arrested in incident involving a sword. police were called shortly before seven o�*clock this morning to reports of a vehicle being driven into a house in the thurlow gardens area of hainault. their applause at that time that people had been stabbed. —— there were reports. the suspect went on to attack other members of the public and two police officers. we don�*t have a confirmed number of people who have been injured but it does include at least two police officers. they are awaiting, the police say, an update on the condition of those who have been injured but a 36—year—old man was arrested at the scene and he is in custody. you can
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