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of information request, revealing a student that has accrued nearly £55,000 in interest alone. london's chelsea flower show has stunned visitors with its beautiful displays for years, but this year the organisers have got something special in store. for the first time, a "no adults allowed" garden — sport and for a full round—up, from the bbc round—up, from the bbc sport centre. the football association has defended the st george's cross design on its new england kit, following a row over the changes. nikee says the shirt includes a "playful update" to the cross from its traditional red to include purple and blue horizontal strips. both the prime minister and labour leader, sir keir starmer, have said the flag shouldn't be altered but the fa has responded by saying it's not the first time" different colours have been used, that it understands what the flag "means to fans" and that the new home kit was meant as a tribute to the 1966 world cup winning team".
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the fa also says the st george's flag will be displayed prominently at wembley tomorrow — as it always is. england will be playing brazil. before that, tonight, northern ireland are away in romania whilst scotland also have a friendly, they're in amsterdam to face the netherlands. manager steve clarke says will be. we have a good camaraderie, within the squad. it's something that we've built over the last four and a half years. they understand that i can only pick 23 and they all try to show how they are in training which is fantastic because it drives the standard up and hopefully you see in the two games coming up that everybody has tried to show that they want to be part of the scotland's squad to go to germany in the summer.
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leicester city have started legal proceedings against the premier league and english football league after being charged with allegedly breaking spending rules. the championship leaders said they were "compelled to act" after being charged with breaching profit and sustainability rules yesterday. if found guilty, the foxes could face a points deduction. england captain heather knight made a half—century as her side beat new zealand by 15 runs in the second t20 in nelson overnight to take a 2—0 lead in the five match series. england were really struggling after being put into bat and when bess heath was out they were 77 for six in the 14th over but knight — with support from the tail end — hit her way to an unbeaten 56 as england posted 149 for seven from their 20 overs. new zealand were always behind the required run rate against some steady england bowling. there were two wickets each for lauren bell and charlie dean as the hosts ended up 16 runs short of their target. now a glimmer of hope for the formula one drivers hoping to disrupt the dominance of three
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time world champion, max verstappen, heading into this weekend's australian grand prix. verstappen missed the first 20 minutes of the second practice session earlier, after damaging the floor of his car, when he came off the track in first practice. that opened the door for ferrari's charles le clerc who topped the time sheet at the end of the session, with verstappen unable to get going. mercedes george russell was sixth quickest with lewis hamilton way back in eighteenth. judd trump is through to the semi—finals of the world open. the defending champion beat kyren wilson by five frames to two and will now play jackson page who beat elliot slessor, also by five frames to two. ding junhui and neil robertson are also through. more gold medal success to report for great britain from the para—cycling track world championships in rio. lizzi jordan and debutant pilot danni khan took gold in the women's tandem time?trial. meanwhile britain's archie atkinson claimed gold in the men's ca individual pursuit,
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producing an outstanding ride to defeat defending world champion kevin le cunff in rio. this is the last major event before the paris 2024 paralympics and after two days great britain are top of the medal table with four golds and four silvers. and that's all the sport for now. ijust want i just want to turn to a breaking story and news coming out of russia thatis story and news coming out of russia that is just been reported. some obvious caveats but to the reuters news agency and the task reporting that russian media outlets are reporting a shooting in a concert hall in moscow where just some of the early details, let me take you through it. people apparently being evacuated, there are reports that three people in camouflage opened fire and there are people reported
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to have been wounded, there also reports that a fire has broken out in that city hall in moscow where the shooting apparently took place, police are just heading to the place of the shooting in moscow. these are very early reports, not very much other detail, but certainly reports of a shooting, there is also a report from writers talking about a explosion as well. —— reuters. we'll keep across that and bring you updated reports as they come into us, but certainly reports in the media there of apparently people firing at people inside that concert hall with the injuries, with an evacuation taking place and police now heading to that location. so we'll keep an eye on that and as i say, we will return to that story in the next couple of minutes.
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frank hester is reported to have said diane abbott made him want to hate all black women, and that she should be shot. he has apologised for being rude. let's go to westminster, let's talk to her correspondent peter saull who is across this latest development, and peter, tell us more in terms of the reaction there's been from the converted conservative party from the prime minister to this latest development involving the police. the start of last week, the guardian reported these alleged comments from frank hester, he has said at this meeting in 2019 and leads, also said the newspaper that diane abbott wanted him to hate all black women and she should be shot, he then apologise for what he called rude remarks, but insisted the comments he made were not in any way to do with her gender or her colour of her skin, so diane abbott referred those
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comments to the metropolitan police who in turn passed it on to west yorkshire police were frank hester�*s company, the tech health tpp is based in leeds, and they said today they are trying to ascertain whether or not a crime had been committed and they are asking people to come forward with information that might be relevant to that investigation. the prime minister who has been out campaigning, lunching the conservative's local elections campaign in derbyshire today, said it would be inappropriate to comment on what is now a police matter, but he again insisted that he believed the comments that frank hester allegedly made were wrong and racist, quite frustrating i guess for the prime minister, this was something that dominated the news for much of last week. 0pposition parties calling on the prime minister to hand at least £10 million that hester has donated to the tory party back. he has where
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there potentially to be new charges brought, i think that noise, those calls for the money to be sent back out of the tory coffers again would grow ever louder.— grow ever louder. that's all there at westminster, _ grow ever louder. that's all there at westminster, thanks - grow ever louder. that's all there at westminster, thanks very - grow ever louder. that's all there l at westminster, thanks very much. a report has urged parliament to compensate women who were affected by the pension age rising from 60 to 65. the parliamentary 0mbudsman says the changes weren't communicated effectively, and found problems with how complaints were handled. it suggests women should receive a payout of between £1,000 and £2,950. but campaigners want £10,000 each. the parliamentary 0mbudsman says the changes weren't the department for work and pensions said it will consider the findings of the report. joining me now are three women who were affected by the state pension age going up. with me in the studio are jackie stacey, who's 65 and has been unable to retire early from herjob as an air hostess, and hilary simpson, who took early
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retirement from herjob in local government, but has had to live on less than half the money she expected. and in sunderland, is brenda todd, who had to keep working at debenhams instead of spending time caring for her husband, who is ill with parkinsons. thank you all forjoining us here live on the programme. let me ask you, each individually, first of all, to tell me a little bit more about how this actually happened to you, how you found out and the impact it's had.— impact it's had. jackie, to you first. ididn't_ impact it's had. jackie, to you first. i didn't find _ impact it's had. jackie, to you first. i didn't find out. - impact it's had. jackie, to you first. i didn't find out. i - impact it's had. jackie, to you first. i didn't find out. i thinkl impact it's had. jackie, to you j first. i didn't find out. i thinki first. i didn't find out. i think i was about 56 when i found out. i thought i was going to be retiring at 60, and it was just a colleague at 60, and it was just a colleague at work mentioned it. i phoned up and found out it was true. i had to work until 65, i had never received a letter, never been informed, and was shocked. i then... wondered if i could stop paying my national insurance because when you get to 60
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and you get your retirement, then you stop paying national insurance, and i was told that i had to keep paying my national insurance. my pension i lost about 54,000, i have paid enough insurance a further 10,000, and so has my employers as well, and i'm very angry and the 1000-3000 well, and i'm very angry and the 1000—3000 compensation is... well, and i'm very angry and the 1000-3000 compensation is... welcome to those figures — 1000-3000 compensation is... welcome to those figures in _ 1000-3000 compensation is... welcome to those figures in a _ 1000-3000 compensation is... welcome to those figures in a moment _ 1000-3000 compensation is. .. welcome to those figures in a moment or- 1000-3000 compensation is... welcome to those figures in a moment or two, - to those figures in a moment or two, but hillary, you heard that. i do you nodding along side because there was so much in terms of what happened to you.— was so much in terms of what happened to you. there are 3.5 million of _ happened to you. there are 3.5 million of us _ happened to you. there are 3.5 million of us and _ happened to you. there are 3.5 million of us and everyone - happened to you. there are 3.5 - million of us and everyone has their own story, — million of us and everyone has their own story, i— million of us and everyone has their own story, i was working in local government, it wasjust own story, i was working in local government, it was just after the financial— government, it was just after the financial crash and this period of austerity— financial crash and this period of austerity was starting and lots of us were — austerity was starting and lots of us were offered early retirement packages — us were offered early retirement packages including me. i was 55, a simiiar— packages including me. i was 55, a similar age — packages including me. i was 55, a similar age to jackie at that point. it similar age to jackie at that point. it looked — similar age to jackie at that point.
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it looked like a good deal because i thought— it looked like a good deal because i thought i'd be getting my state pension— thought i'd be getting my state pension at 60, the lump sum that i -et pension at 60, the lump sum that i get wood _ pension at 60, the lump sum that i get wood tied over that five—year period _ get wood tied over that five—year period until they start getting my state _ period until they start getting my state pension. and it was only after i'd accepted the deal that i found out i _ i'd accepted the deal that i found out i wouldn't be getting my state pension— out i wouldn't be getting my state pension at 60 at all, so that something which had originally been allocated _ something which had originally been allocated in my mind to cover five years. _ allocated in my mind to cover five years. first — allocated in my mind to cover five years, first of all, had to cover a further_ years, first of all, had to cover a further three so that was eight years. — further three so that was eight years, and then eventually it was raised _ years, and then eventually it was raised again in 2011. and then it had to— raised again in 2011. and then it had to cover up to ten and a half years— had to cover up to ten and a half years because i didn't finally get my state — years because i didn't finally get my state pension until it was 65.5. let my state pension until it was 65.5. let me _ my state pension until it was 65.5. let me bring in brenda, i can see you listening to all of that. tell me how it actually impacted you, suddenly finding out these changes at the very last minute. i
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suddenly finding out these changes at the very last minute.— at the very last minute. i couldn't actually believe _ at the very last minute. i couldn't actually believe it. _ at the very last minute. i couldn't actually believe it. to _ at the very last minute. i couldn't actually believe it. to me, - at the very last minute. i couldn't actually believe it. to me, it - at the very last minute. i couldn't actually believe it. to me, it was| actually believe it. to me, it was 'ust actually believe it. to me, it was just before, _ actually believe it. to me, it was just before, maybe _ actually believe it. to me, it was just before, maybe it _ actually believe it. to me, it was just before, maybe it was - actually believe it. to me, it was just before, maybe it wasjust. just before, maybe it wasjust before — just before, maybe it wasjust before my— just before, maybe it wasjust before my 60th _ just before, maybe it wasjust before my 60th birthday - just before, maybe it wasjust before my 60th birthday and i just before, maybe it wasjustj before my 60th birthday and i just before, maybe it wasjust- before my 60th birthday and i was caring _ before my 60th birthday and i was caring for— before my 60th birthday and i was caring for my _ before my 60th birthday and i was caring for my husband _ before my 60th birthday and i was caring for my husband who - before my 60th birthday and i was caring for my husband who has - caring for my husband who has parkinson's. _ caring for my husband who has parkinson's, working _ caring for my husband who has parkinson's, working at - caring for my husband who has - parkinson's, working at deadman's. they reduced — parkinson's, working at deadman's. they reduced me _ parkinson's, working at deadman's. they reduced me hours— parkinson's, working at deadman's. they reduced me hours to - parkinson's, working at deadman's. i they reduced me hours to part—time, the thing _ they reduced me hours to part—time, the thing was, — they reduced me hours to part—time, the thing was, i— they reduced me hours to part—time, the thing was, i was _ they reduced me hours to part—time, the thing was, i was relying _ they reduced me hours to part—time, the thing was, i was relying on- they reduced me hours to part—time, the thing was, i was relying on the i the thing was, i was relying on the pension— the thing was, i was relying on the pension and — the thing was, i was relying on the pension and they _ the thing was, i was relying on the pension and they didn't _ the thing was, i was relying on the pension and they didn't give - the thing was, i was relying on the pension and they didn't give me i the thing was, i was relying on the. pension and they didn't give me any letter, nothind _ pension and they didn't give me any letter, nothing. we _ pension and they didn't give me any letter, nothing. we just _ pension and they didn't give me any letter, nothing. we just didn't- pension and they didn't give me any letter, nothing. we just didn't havel letter, nothing. we just didn't have any information _ letter, nothing. we just didn't have any information whatsoever, - letter, nothing. we just didn't have any information whatsoever, i - any information whatsoever, i literally— any information whatsoever, i literally had _ any information whatsoever, i literally had to _ any information whatsoever, i literally had to find _ any information whatsoever, i literally had to find out - any information whatsoever, i literally had to find out and i any information whatsoever, i i literally had to find out and ask for a _ literally had to find out and ask for a pension— literally had to find out and ask for a pension forecast - literally had to find out and ask for a pension forecast and - literally had to find out and ask for a pension forecast and got. for a pension forecast and got notified — for a pension forecast and got notified that _ for a pension forecast and got notified that i _ for a pension forecast and got notified that i wasn't - for a pension forecast and got notified that i wasn't getting i for a pension forecast and got . notified that i wasn't getting my pension— notified that i wasn't getting my pension until _ notified that i wasn't getting my pension until 64 _ notified that i wasn't getting my pension until 64 and _ notified that i wasn't getting my pension until 64 and 11- notified that i wasn't getting my pension until 64 and 11 months. | notified that i wasn't getting my . pension until 64 and 11 months. at that time, — pension until 64 and 11 months. at that time, my— pension until 64 and 11 months. at that time, my husband _ pension until 64 and 11 months. at that time, my husband couldn't i pension until 64 and 11 months. at i that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at _ that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at the _ that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at the same — that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at the same time _ that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at the same time i _ that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at the same time i had _ that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at the same time i had to- that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at the same time i had to go- that time, my husband couldn't earn, so at the same time i had to go to . so at the same time i had to go to work— so at the same time i had to go to work while — so at the same time i had to go to work while coming _ so at the same time i had to go to work while coming home - so at the same time i had to go to work while coming home from - so at the same time i had to go to. work while coming home from work and caring _ work while coming home from work and caring for— work while coming home from work and caring for my _ work while coming home from work and caring for my husband, _ work while coming home from work and caring for my husband, until— work while coming home from work and caring for my husband, until 64- caring for my husband, until 64 years— caring for my husband, until 64 years and — caring for my husband, until 64 years and 11_ caring for my husband, until 64 years and 11 months. _
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caring for my husband, until 64 years and 11 months. now, - caring for my husband, until 64 years and 11 months. now, we. caring for my husband, until 64- years and 11 months. now, we know that they— years and 11 months. now, we know that they are — years and 11 months. now, we know that they are talking _ years and 11 months. now, we know that they are talking about - that they are talking about compensation, _ that they are talking about compensation, but - that they are talking about compensation, but quite l that they are talking about - compensation, but quite honestly, it was 50.000 — compensation, but quite honestly, it was £30,000 that— compensation, but quite honestly, it was £30,000 that went _ compensation, but quite honestly, it was £30,000 that went astray - compensation, but quite honestly, it was £30,000 that went astray from | compensation, but quite honestly, it. was £30,000 that went astray from me bein- was £30,000 that went astray from me being 60 _ was £30,000 that went astray from me being 60 to _ was £30,000 that went astray from me being 60 to 65— was £30,000 that went astray from me being 60 to 65 and _ was £30,000 that went astray from me being 60 to 65 and whatever _ was £30,000 that went astray from me being 60 to 65 and whatever happenedl being 60 to 65 and whatever happened to that _ being 60 to 65 and whatever happened to that money, — being 60 to 65 and whatever happened to that money, i— being 60 to 65 and whatever happened to that money, i would _ being 60 to 65 and whatever happened to that money, i would like _ being 60 to 65 and whatever happened to that money, i would like to - being 60 to 65 and whatever happened to that money, i would like to know. i to that money, i would like to know. because _ to that money, i would like to know. because i_ to that money, i would like to know. because i didn't _ to that money, i would like to know. because i didn't get, _ to that money, i would like to know. because i didn't get, i— to that money, i would like to know. because i didn't get, i didn't- to that money, i would like to know. because i didn't get, i didn't get- because i didn't get, i didn't get any of— because i didn't get, i didn't get any of that— because i didn't get, i didn't get any of that money. _ because i didn't get, i didn't get any of that money. let - because i didn't get, i didn't get any of that money.— any of that money. let me ask you, brenda, because _ any of that money. let me ask you, brenda, because you _ any of that money. let me ask you, brenda, because you heard - any of that money. let me ask you, brenda, because you heard me in i brenda, because you heard me in the introduction reading out with the sorts of sums that are being considered, up to £3000. when you hear that, given the shortfall that you just told us, what do you think of that chris mark yes. i you just told us, what do you think of that chris mark yes.— of that chris mark yes. i think it's disgusting- _ of that chris mark yes. i think it's disgusting- l— of that chris mark yes. i think it's disgusting. i worked _ of that chris mark yes. i think it's disgusting. i worked from - of that chris mark yes. i think it's disgusting. i worked from the - of that chris mark yes. i think it's| disgusting. i worked from the age of that chris mark yes. i think it's i disgusting. i worked from the age of 15, i disgusting. i worked from the age of 15, i worked — disgusting. i worked from the age of 15, i worked to— disgusting. i worked from the age of 15, i worked to a _ disgusting. i worked from the age of 15, i worked to a sewing factory - disgusting. i worked from the age of 15, i worked to a sewing factory at. 15, i worked to a sewing factory at the age _ 15, i worked to a sewing factory at the age of— 15, i worked to a sewing factory at the age of 15— 15, i worked to a sewing factory at the age of 15 and _ 15, i worked to a sewing factory at the age of 15 and didn't— 15, i worked to a sewing factory at the age of 15 and didn't finish - the age of 15 and didn't finish work apart— the age of 15 and didn't finish work apart from — the age of 15 and didn't finish work apart from having _ the age of 15 and didn't finish work apart from having my— the age of 15 and didn't finish work apart from having my daughter's, i the age of 15 and didn't finish work. apart from having my daughter's, and didn't— apart from having my daughter's, and didn't finish— apart from having my daughter's, and didn't finish work— apart from having my daughter's, and didn't finish work until _ apart from having my daughter's, and didn't finish work until the _ apart from having my daughter's, and didn't finish work until the age - apart from having my daughter's, and didn't finish work until the age of - didn't finish work until the age of 64 and _ didn't finish work until the age of 64 and 11— didn't finish work until the age of 64 and 11 months. _ didn't finish work until the age of 64 and 11 months. so— didn't finish work until the age of 64 and 11 months. so every- didn't finish work until the age of
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64 and 11 months. so every bit i didn't finish work until the age of - 64 and 11 months. so every bit of my money— 64 and 11 months. so every bit of my money i _ 64 and 11 months. so every bit of my money i put — 64 and 11 months. so every bit of my money i put into— 64 and 11 months. so every bit of my money i put into the _ 64 and 11 months. so every bit of my money i put into the system - 64 and 11 months. so every bit of my money i put into the system and i. money i put into the system and i wasn't _ money i put into the system and i wasn't even — money i put into the system and i wasn't even told _ money i put into the system and i wasn't even told that _ money i put into the system and i wasn't even told that i— wasn't even told that i wasn't getting — wasn't even told that i wasn't getting out— wasn't even told that i wasn't getting out of— wasn't even told that i wasn't getting out of the _ wasn't even told that i wasn't getting out of the system - wasn't even told that i wasn't . getting out of the system which wasn't even told that i wasn't - getting out of the system which i thought i— getting out of the system which i thought i was— getting out of the system which i thought i was getting _ getting out of the system which i thought i was getting out - getting out of the system which i thought i was getting out of - getting out of the system which i thought i was getting out of at l getting out of the system which ll thought i was getting out of at 60 and i_ thought i was getting out of at 60 and i was — thought i was getting out of at 60 and i was robbed _ thought i was getting out of at 60 and i was robbed of— thought i was getting out of at 60 and i was robbed of literally- thought i was getting out of at 60 and i was robbed of literally five l and i was robbed of literally five years _ and i was robbed of literally five years of— and i was robbed of literally five years of my _ and i was robbed of literally five years of my pension. _ and i was robbed of literally five years of my pension. that's - and i was robbed of literally five i years of my pension. that's never ever_ years of my pension. that's never ever going — years of my pension. that's never ever going to _ years of my pension. that's never ever going to he _ years of my pension. that's never ever going to be given _ years of my pension. that's never ever going to be given back- years of my pension. that's neverl ever going to be given back to me. where _ ever going to be given back to me. where the — ever going to be given back to me. where the government _ ever going to be given back to me. where the government is- ever going to be given back to me. where the government is talking l ever going to be given back to me. . where the government is talking and which _ where the government is talking and which way— where the government is talking and which way and — where the government is talking and which way and everyone _ where the government is talking and which way and everyone else - where the government is talking and which way and everyone else is - which way and everyone else is talking, — which way and everyone else is talking, only— which way and everyone else is talking, only going _ which way and everyone else is talking, only going to - which way and everyone else is talking, only going to get - which way and everyone else is talking, only going to get a - which way and everyone else is| talking, only going to get a tiny bit of— talking, only going to get a tiny bit of compensation _ talking, only going to get a tiny bit of compensation but - talking, only going to get a tiny bit of compensation but it's - bit of compensation but it's not compensation. _ bit of compensation but it's not compensation, it's— bit of compensation but it's not compensation, it's really- bit of compensation but it's not compensation, it's really whatl bit of compensation but it's notj compensation, it's really what i have _ compensation, it's really what i have worked _ compensation, it's really what i have worked for— compensation, it's really what i have worked for all— compensation, it's really what i have worked for all my - compensation, it's really what i have worked for all my life - compensation, it's really what i have worked for all my life andl compensation, it's really what i. have worked for all my life and put into the _ have worked for all my life and put into the system. _ have worked for all my life and put into the system.— into the system. jackie, let me brina into the system. jackie, let me bring you _ into the system. jackie, let me bring you back _ into the system. jackie, let me bring you back in. _ into the system. jackie, let me bring you back in. i— into the system. jackie, let me bring you back in. i mentioned| into the system. jackie, let me l bring you back in. i mentioned to the department for work and pensions saying they'll consider this report, because this campaign has gone on such a long time. when you see almost a holding statement, which you make of that chris mark i think they are just you make of that chris mark i think they arejust going you make of that chris mark i think they are just going to wait for more of us to die, to be honest with you. i don't think it's going to happen. it's a total insult what they are
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trying to offer to us. what we have lost and paid trying to offer to us. what we have lostand paid in, trying to offer to us. what we have lost and paid in, they forget when we left work and we started work at 16, we were on such a different wage to a man's. it always seems to be women's fighting for their rights and i think it's because we are women, they arejust and i think it's because we are women, they are just walking straight over us. x�*t�*et women, they are 'ust walking straight over us._ straight over us. yet again. hilla , straight over us. yet again. hillary. we _ straight over us. yet again. hillary. we of _ straight over us. yet again. hillary, we of course, - straight over us. yet again. hillary, we of course, over| hillary, we of course, over christmas and new year, so the post office scandal just explode. christmas and new year, so the post office scandaljust explode. and 0ffice scandaljust explode. and forced the government into adopting a new position. do you see echoes in what is happened to all of you and the numbers and the battle, the longevity of the campaign you've had to fight over the years, does it feel similar tomark yes, to fight over the years, does it feelsimilartomark yes, i to fight over the years, does it feel similar tomark yes, i think when that post office erupted following the drama series are social media sites were flooded with
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people saying it isn't the same but it feels very much the same. that sort of feeling _ it feels very much the same. that sort of feeling that _ it feels very much the same. that sort of feeling that there is denial and delay— sort of feeling that there is denial and delay and everybodyjust kind of putting _ and delay and everybodyjust kind of putting their heads in the sand and hoping _ putting their heads in the sand and hoping it'll— putting their heads in the sand and hoping it'll go away. that is a very common— hoping it'll go away. that is a very common theme across all these compensation scandals because it's notjust_ compensation scandals because it's notjust the post compensation scandals because it's not just the post office. critical life. _ not just the post office. critical life, contaminated blood, rent —— wind _ life, contaminated blood, rent —— wind rush — life, contaminated blood, rent —— wind rush. the government doesn't have a _ wind rush. the government doesn't have a good — wind rush. the government doesn't have a good track record on paying compensation. do have a good track record on paying compensation-— compensation. do you have the strenath compensation. do you have the strength to _ compensation. do you have the strength to keep _ compensation. do you have the strength to keep campaigning? j compensation. do you have the - strength to keep campaigning? it's going on so much time but as you see from the statement already, there is no particular sign of conclusion at the moment. no particular sign of conclusion at the moment-— no particular sign of conclusion at the moment. ., , �* , the moment. no, there isn't, but we will not the moment. no, there isn't, but we will rrot give — the moment. no, there isn't, but we will rrot give up- _ the moment. no, there isn't, but we will not give up. we _ the moment. no, there isn't, but we will not give up. we will— the moment. no, there isn't, but we will not give up. we will fight - the moment. no, there isn't, but we will not give up. we will fight it - will not give up. we will fight it until— will not give up. we will fight it until there are none of us left. and jackie, in terms _ until there are none of us left. and jackie, in terms of _ until there are none of us left. fific jackie, in terms of amounts, you
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described earlier the absolutely insulting what the figures are talking about. what sort of figures do you have in mind? what, for you, would feel that that would adequately compensate what you've actually been through? weill. adequately compensate what you've actually been through?— actually been through? well, i can't aet aet actually been through? well, i can't get get back — actually been through? well, i can't get get back the _ actually been through? well, i can't get get back the time _ actually been through? well, i can't get get back the time i _ actually been through? well, i can't get get back the time i could've - get get back the time i could've spent with my father who is 94 and unwell. i can't get time back i spent with my grandchildren, that's not really relating to money. but i'm really not sure. 10,000 would feel a bit better, but we paid in so much money and work so hard, and to give such little notice and not even we paid in this extra money, we aren't getting 1p, not 1p more in our penchant for those 5—6 years that we have worked, not 1p extra are we getting for all that money we put in. are we getting for all that money we ut in. g , ., ., are we getting for all that money we utin. , ., ., , ., ., put in. just a final question to ou, put in. just a final question to you. brenda. _ put in. just a final question to you, brenda, because - put in. just a final question to you, brenda, because what i put in. just a final question to - you, brenda, because what would
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justus feel like for you? can there be justice, justus feel like for you? can there bejustice, can justus feel like for you? can there be justice, can there justus feel like for you? can there bejustice, can there be justus feel like for you? can there be justice, can there be a sort of resolution given what you've been through? resolution given what you've been throu~h? ~ �* through? well, i'll never get the five ears through? well, i'll never get the five years back _ through? well, i'll never get the five years back to _ through? well, i'll never get the five years back to that _ through? well, i'll never get the five years back to that i - through? well, i'll never get the five years back to that i had - through? well, i'll never get the five years back to that i had to l five years back to that i had to work _ five years back to that i had to work and _ five years back to that i had to work and couldn't _ five years back to that i had to work and couldn't be - five years back to that i had to work and couldn't be with - five years back to that i had to work and couldn't be with myl work and couldn't be with my husband _ work and couldn't be with my husband. and _ work and couldn't be with my husband. and help— work and couldn't be with my husband. and help him - work and couldn't be with my husband. and help him out. work and couldn't be with my- husband. and help him out and be able to— husband. and help him out and be able to do— husband. and help him out and be able to do special— husband. and help him out and be able to do special things, - husband. and help him out and be able to do special things, and - able to do special things, and quite honestly, _ able to do special things, and quite honestly, that's— able to do special things, and quite honestly, that's never— able to do special things, and quite honestly, that's never going - able to do special things, and quite honestly, that's never going to- able to do special things, and quite i honestly, that's never going to come back and _ honestly, that's never going to come back and time that _ honestly, that's never going to come back and time that i _ honestly, that's never going to come back and time that i could _ honestly, that's never going to come back and time that i could have - honestly, that's never going to come back and time that i could have been with my— back and time that i could have been with my family. _ back and time that i could have been with my family, that _ back and time that i could have been with my family, that i _ back and time that i could have been with my family, that i should - back and time that i could have been with my family, that i should have i with my family, that i should have been retired, _ with my family, that i should have been retired, you _ with my family, that i should have been retired, you know, _ with my family, that i should have been retired, you know, money, i with my family, that i should have i been retired, you know, money, how can you _ been retired, you know, money, how can you put _ been retired, you know, money, how can you put money— been retired, you know, money, how can you put money on _ been retired, you know, money, how can you put money on that? the i can you put money on that? the government— can you put money on that? the government should _ can you put money on that? the government should really, i can you put money on that? thel government should really, really can you put money on that? the i government should really, really be ashamed of— government should really, really be ashamed of themselves _ government should really, really be ashamed of themselves because i ashamed of themselves because literally— ashamed of themselves because literally they _ ashamed of themselves because literally they robbed _ ashamed of themselves because literally they robbed these - ashamed of themselves because i literally they robbed these women. everyone _ literally they robbed these women. everyone us— literally they robbed these women. everyone us was— literally they robbed these women. everyone us was robbed _ literally they robbed these women. everyone us was robbed and - literally they robbed these women. everyone us was robbed and it's. everyone us was robbed and it's about— everyone us was robbed and it's about time _ everyone us was robbed and it's about time that _ everyone us was robbed and it's about time that they— everyone us was robbed and it's about time that they got - everyone us was robbed and it's- about time that they got themselves in order, _ about time that they got themselves in order, it _ about time that they got themselves in order, it was — about time that they got themselves in order, it was shocking _ about time that they got themselves in order, it was shocking to - about time that they got themselves in order, it was shocking to think i in order, it was shocking to think that they'll — in order, it was shocking to think that they'll never— in order, it was shocking to think that they'll never ever— in order, it was shocking to think that they'll never ever give i in order, it was shocking to think that they'll never ever give us i that they'll never ever give us notice. — that they'll never ever give us notice. no _ that they'll never ever give us notice, no notification - that they'll never ever give us i notice, no notification staggered us. notice, no notification staggered us~ if— notice, no notification staggered us if they— notice, no notification staggered us if they gave _ notice, no notification staggered us. if they gave us _ notice, no notification staggered us. if they gave us 5—10 - notice, no notification staggered us. if they gave us 5—10 years, l notice, no notification staggered. us. if they gave us 5—10 years, we could _ us. if they gave us 5—10 years, we could have — us. if they gave us 5—10 years, we could have planned. _ us. if they gave us 5—10 years, we could have planned. if— us. if they gave us 5—10 years, we could have planned. if they- us. if they gave us 5—10 years, we could have planned. if they had i could have planned. if they had actually— could have planned. if they had actually given _ could have planned. if they had actually given us, _ could have planned. if they had actually given us, staggered i
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could have planned. if they had actually given us, staggered iti could have planned. if they had i actually given us, staggered it so one year. — actually given us, staggered it so one year. two— actually given us, staggered it so one year, two year, _ actually given us, staggered it so one year, two year, but - actually given us, staggered it so one year, two year, but no, i actually given us, staggered it so one year, two year, but no, they| one year, two year, but no, they went— one year, two year, but no, they went from — one year, two year, but no, they went from 60—65, _ one year, two year, but no, they went from 60—65, and _ one year, two year, but no, they went from 60—65, and 66- one year, two year, but no, they went from 60—65, and 66 for. one year, two year, but no, they| went from 60—65, and 66 for the younger— went from 60—65, and 66 for the younger ones _ went from 60—65, and 66 for the younger ones which _ went from 60—65, and 66 for the younger ones which was - went from 60—65, and 66 for the l younger ones which was absolutely terrible _ younger ones which was absolutely terrible for — younger ones which was absolutely terrible for everyone. _ younger ones which was absolutely terrible for everyone. really- terrible for everyone. really terrible _ terrible for everyone. really terrible in _ terrible for everyone. really terrible in my— terrible for everyone. really terrible in my eyes - terrible for everyone. really terrible in my eyes that i terrible for everyone. reallyj terrible in my eyes that they literally _ terrible in my eyes that they literally robbed, _ terrible in my eyes that they literally robbed, robbed i terrible in my eyes that they literally robbed, robbed us. terrible in my eyes that they. literally robbed, robbed us and that's— literally robbed, robbed us and that's how— literally robbed, robbed us and that's how i _ literally robbed, robbed us and that's how i feel, _ literally robbed, robbed us and that's how i feel, totally- literally robbed, robbed us and i that's how i feel, totally robbed. brenda, — that's how i feel, totally robbed. brenda, we _ that's how i feel, totally robbed. brenda, we have _ that's how i feel, totally robbed. brenda, we have to _ that's how i feel, totally robbed. brenda, we have to leave - that's how i feel, totally robbed. brenda, we have to leave it i that's how i feel, totally robbed. i brenda, we have to leave it there, but such powerful testimony from all of you, brenda, thank you for your time, the jackie, thanks for coming in to talk to me, and hillary, thanks as well. just before i move on, i want to return to those lines coming out of moscow i referred to earlier. i want to take you to the latest details we know because there are reports coming in from the russian capital that people are being evacuated from a concert hall near moscow, we've been hearing these initial reports in the last half hour. the russian news agency is reporting that at least three people dressed in
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camouflage open fire and some people had been reported as wounded. pictures on social media show casualties up, apparently, lying on the ground. this is apparently at crocus city hall, near to moscow. there are also reports of a blast and also a fire in the building. details coming in all of the time, but we are trying to verify those reports and get more details on it but certainly, there are certainly more details coming in all the time. were great cigar enough is in the newsroom... —— gregory is in the newsroom... -- gregory is in the newsroom-— newsroom... -- gregory is in the newsroom. . ., , , ., newsroom. we are still trying to get as much information _ newsroom. we are still trying to get as much information as _ newsroom. we are still trying to get as much information as possible i as much information as possible because this news broke outjust very recently from the very fresh
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line which i'm getting is that the firefighters, they cannot start working with fire because they are waiting while special forces will arrive on the place. as far as i understand from what we deal, we seen already in the recent five, ten minutes there were quite a lot of people in this concert hall at the moment when this incident occurred. and yes, from this report, but i have to underline that this report which we are getting, they are now mainly publishing in anonymous russian telegram channels, though the amount of information and the amount of video which we are receiving can sort of lead us to the conclusion that this is really what is happening and there was at least heavy fighting. this is what we have seen on the video, and there is a massive fire which we... and we can
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see smoke from very, very far and what we know about this place, this is crocus city hall which is located on the outskirts of moscow but not far from the on the outskirts of moscow but not farfrom the main road far from the main road that encircles moscow, this is quite a popular place. inside there was a concert of one of the musical groups so there were people. and we saw from the videos which we have seen, we saw people in the hall of that building and also in the concert hall, and we, as far as we understand, again from the video, which we have seen, people were hiding when the shooting started. people started hiding and some of them, they were hiding for 10—15 minutes before they were able to move. . ., y minutes before they were able to move. , ._ y minutes before they were able to move. , ._ , .,. minutes before they were able to move. . , y move. gregory, sorry to cut across ou, but move. gregory, sorry to cut across you. but the — move. gregory, sorry to cut across you, but the latest _ move. gregory, sorry to cut across you, but the latest reports - move. gregory, sorry to cut across you, but the latest reports now i you, but the latest reports now saying for the first time there are
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dead, we had known about wounded but they are saying there are dead and wounded after the shooting at this concert hall near moscow. i assume at this very early stage we have no idea what lies behind us. h0. idea what lies behind us. no, another important _ idea what lies behind us. iifr, another important update, according to one of the telegram channels inside, there could have been up to 100 people and also the witnesses are reporting that there were three people in camouflage, military uniform, who started firing and yes, we are looking for further information on what exactly has happened. b5 information on what exactly has ha ened. r ,, information on what exactly has happened-— information on what exactly has ha ened, �*, a, ., happened. as you were saying, and it is worth repeating _ happened. as you were saying, and it is worth repeating that _ happened. as you were saying, and it is worth repeating that the _ happened. as you were saying, and it is worth repeating that the reuters i is worth repeating that the reuters news agency we are now seeing footage now of smoke billowing out of this building. there were reports
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of an explosion, reports of a fire, and it's worth saying, just tell me, because it initially seemed to be reports in moscow in terms of this location, it's not in moscow itself, its near the capital, is that it's near the capital, is that right? it it's near the capital, is that riuht? . . it's near the capital, is that riuht? , ., ., right? it is near the capital, well --eole right? it is near the capital, well people who _ right? it is near the capital, well people who live _ right? it is near the capital, well people who live in _ right? it is near the capital, well people who live in london - right? it is near the capital, well people who live in london would maybe understand this analogy, it encircles the capital, the a big circle road which encircles moscow and this is a concert hall which is near the road. nevertheless, this is where big concert halls are often located, and again this was a place at this moment was a concert of one of the musical groups and again, according to some of the reports, up to 100 people could have been inside the building at the moment when all this occurred.—
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this occurred. greg, thanks very much for the — this occurred. greg, thanks very much for the latest. _ this occurred. greg, thanks very much for the latest. just - this occurred. greg, thanks very i much for the latest. just recapping because we have hearing those reports, an explosion, three people in camouflage opening fire, we are hearing reports of dead and wounded in a large fire at this building near to moscow. more on that here in the coming minutes on bbc news, thanks for watching. see you next time. cold air has been racing itself, for saturday we can expect cold winds to continue to blow, there will be some really heavy showers and some of those showers will be wintry over high ground in the north. a cold front pushing its way southeastward so they brought some rain behind it, some clear spells and the speckled shower clouds brought in by an area of low pressure passing to the north of the uk. through the night we will see
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lots of showers, some wintry showers even down to, say, 2—300 metres above sea level including parts of scotland, some snow and showers over the highest ground in northern england. there could be some icy stretches on untreated roads, particularly out in the countryside across the northern half of the uk, for tomorrow our area of low pressure still with us, layouts of isobars around and that, it will be a widely windy day. a mix of sunny spells and showers, showers will be heavy, perhaps laundry, joining together into a line of cloud and shall remain pushing its way southwards throughout the day, some wintriness in the showers across scotland but the snow level coming up scotland but the snow level coming up as the day wears on. gusts of 40-50 up as the day wears on. gusts of 40—50 mph or more, around northern or western coasts. temperatures down from where they have been but when we factor in the wind—chill, these are the feels like temperatures, this is what it will feel like out there. 5—6 . the winds will slowly
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start to ease a little bit particularly across western and southern parts, many of the showers will fade as well, we'll keep some in the north—east of scotland where we are closest to this area of low pressure which will be departing eastwards as we move on to do sunday. still some strong winds along the east coast through the day on sunday, but still potentially one or two showers, for it at many places sunday is going to be a drier and somewhat brighter day with some spells of hazy sunshine ahead, this weather system bringing cloud and rain into northern ireland later in the day. temperatures coming up a little bit, 9-12, the day. temperatures coming up a little bit, 9—12, maybe 13 degrees. we head into next week, it does look very unsettled, longer spells of rain, often fairly windy, temperatures creeping upwards around 10-14 .
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at six: the princess of wales has just announced that she is undergoing treatment for cancer. here now is a very personal message from her which hasjust been released, in which she explains what has been happening in recent weeks. i wanted to take this opportunity to say thank you personally for all the wonderful messages of support and for your understanding whilst i've been recovering from surgery. it has been an incredibly tough couple of months for our entire family, but i've had a fantastic medical team who've taken great care of me, for which i'm so grateful. injanuary, i underwent major abdominal surgery in london,
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and at the time it was thought that my condition was non—cancerous. the surgery was successful. however, tests after the operation found cancer had been present. my medical team therefore advised that i should undergo a course of preventative chemotherapy, and i'm now in the early stages of that treatment. this of course came as a huge shock, and william and i have been doing everything we can to process and manage this privately for the sake of our young family. as you can imagine, this has taken time. it has taken me time to recover from major surgery in order to start my treatment. but most importantly, it has taken us time to explain everything to george, charlotte and louis in a way that's appropriate for them, and to reassure them that i'm going to be ok. as i've said to them, i am well, and getting stronger every day by focusing on the things that will help me heal, in my mind, body and spirits.
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having william by my side is a great source of comfort

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