hello, i'm rajini vaidyanathan. you're watching the context on bbc news. it's day five of the temporary cease—fire in israel hamas war. based on information from the red cross, to other hostages with foreign nationality have also been freed —— two others. these other red cross vehicles their way through the rafah crossing from gaza into egypt. these are the images here. i think we can bring you some stills of some of the hostages who were released this evening. they include 84—year—old dicta payment,

36—year—old ramon in the weinberg family, gabriella, who is 59, mia, who 17 and clara, who is 63. we've also been told that one of the hostages in that group is german. as well as those hostages, israel hostages in that group is german. as well as those hostages, israel has also released another 30 palestinian prison prisoners. qatar says 15 more women, 15 were minors who were being held in is reallyjail. —— israel e. they are trying to prolong the cease—fire and we found out only yesterday, the deal had been extended and efforts continued to try and extend that by another day or two.

try and extend that by another day ortwo. earlier, ispoke try and extend that by another day or two. earlier, i spoke to paul adams to get the latest on the events

this was the first of a two day extension that followed the original four day humanitarian pause. in theory the process that's already been agreed runs out in about 2k hours�* time. there is a good chance that we will see another 48 hour extension agreed by the two parties. it's extension agreed by the two parties. it�*s clear that both sides seem to want that as long as we have this process going, it really more or less according to plan. with very little in the way of interruptions or challenges. notwithstanding, the gunfire that was heard in gaza today. then i think both sides wanted to go ahead. whether it extends beyond that additional 48

hours that is something being negotiated. at the moment it would be much too early to say whether thatis be much too early to say whether that is likely to go ahead. what that is likely to go ahead. what more are we — that is likely to go ahead. what more are we hearing _ that is likely to go ahead. what more are we hearing from - that is likely to go ahead. what more are we hearing from the israeli government on backwards back on the last few days we have heard from the prime minister who says that the bombardment will continue after a temporary pause. however long that might be. because he still wants to eliminate hamas his capabilities. yes, that remains on the table as he israeli governments position, that when this pause ends, whatever that is that israel will go back to fighting with as a prime minister says, "full force. "seven or eight weeks ago he said that his goal was to destroy hamas once and for all. now, that may still be the stated position but the longer these pauses go on, it is possible we could see

them extending throughout this week and into next weekend, then use slightly start to wonder about exactly how and where end and if that military campaign will resume. my that military campaign will resume. my guess still is that it will. the question only perhaps is what form it takes. because there is a un—finish military business from israel�*s point of view still to be donein israel�*s point of view still to be done in the north, in the gaza city area where there are several neighbourhoods where they still want to tackle. but also the question of what happens when they turned their attention to the self because that is where we assumed the bulk of the important hamas leadership is, where a significant number of fighters will be. and to stop without going south might be seen by some in the israeli military and israeli political circles as stopping when the job is only half done. itrailiiiie the job is only half done. while

this temporary _ the job is only half done. while this temporary cease-fire - the job is only half done. while this temporary cease—fire continues, other any more conversations in the region about the longer—term future of gaza and how gaza is governed? lots of conversations, whether they are solidifying, we really couldn�*t say that at the moment. benjamin netanyahu said he does not see a role he does not see a role for hamas, but he also said he doesn�*t see a role for the palestinian authority. so, that leaves the question of exactly who will go in and govern. is that the old one transplanted or some new iteration of that? it�*s not clear. the americans have spoken of a new palestinian authority. israel does not want to be in political control of the gaza strip. mr netanyahu said israel

would retain broad security responsibility. but all these questions about who patrols gaza and who governs gaza, these are all way up in the air at the moment. paul, we are hoping to speak to someone in gaza about the aid situation. but what are you hearing about the amount of aid that has crossed from egypt into gaza? that�*s another important element of this temporary truce. allowing much more aid into gaza. it certainly is. i�*m not sure what the figures are for today, but we did see this morning that the un was able to take aid into jabalia refugee camp. that was very important for the un to do that. the longer the pause goes on, the more goes on, the more the agencies are able to build up their supplies. very little data has been able to reach it since the crisis began. possibly in anticipation of what happens when the fighting, when the focus of the fighting turns to the south,

because that is where the bulk of the entire gaza strip population is right now. if the israelis decide to do to the south what they have already done to the north, that is going to require a monumental humanitarian effort and a much more complicated one than we have already seen. that is a real nightmare scenario that the agencies are trying to figure out as this pause continues. my my colleague paul adams. i�*m joined by the panel. let�*s return to our panel now — anneke green, senior director at the white house writers group. she previously served

in president george w bush�*s speech—writing office. and tom peck, who�*s the parliamentary sketch writer at the times. good to have you both. it�*s been another busy evening. what�*s the reaction been where you are in the united states, anneke?— united states, anneke? there is still a focus _ united states, anneke? there is still a focus on _ united states, anneke? there is still a focus on trying _ united states, anneke? there is still a focus on trying to - united states, anneke? there is still a focus on trying to be - still a focus on trying to be accurate. it�*s hard to get information, as i�*m sure your correspondence have conveyed. but trying to maintain accuracy and keep in mind that each side is not equally reliable with reporting figures. there�*s been questioning of some the casualty figures that have been reported out of gaza. the ibf has been sharing stories from some of the released hostages which is helpful, as those are able to be released. some of that is coming from the relatives. there is immense relief that the cease—fire is continuing a lot of hope that all the hostages can be released. there

is also some concern that the cease—fire will allow hamas to regroup. also to escape possibly with some hostages. the regroup. also to escape possibly with some hostages.— regroup. also to escape possibly with some hostages. the view from america. with some hostages. the view from america- let's _ with some hostages. the view from america. let's bring _ with some hostages. the view from america. let's bring tom _ with some hostages. the view from america. let's bring tom peck - with some hostages. the view from america. let's bring tom peck in. l america. let�*s bring tom peck in. we�*re in day five of this temporary cease—fire. how long do you think it could be negotiated on further? the honest answer is i obviously don't know_ honest answer is i obviously don't know the — honest answer is i obviously don't know the answer. what happens in gaza only — know the answer. what happens in gaza only is — know the answer. what happens in gaza only is really the consequence of one _ gaza only is really the consequence of one actor, and that is israel. isreel— of one actor, and that is israel. israel will— of one actor, and that is israel. israel will do precisely as it wishes _ israel will do precisely as it wishes. a month ago, there was this talk of— wishes. a month ago, there was this talk of this— wishes. a month ago, there was this talk of this paul zero cease—fire, it was_ talk of this paul zero cease—fire, it was not— talk of this paul zero cease—fire, it was not going to happen because they didn't — it was not going to happen because they didn't want hamas to regroup —— pause _ they didn't want hamas to regroup —— pause or— they didn't want hamas to regroup —— pause or cease—fire. israeli military— pause or cease—fire. israeli military strategists are reviewing

minutes — military strategists are reviewing minutes now an acceptable time to do it. naturally, we hope there will be an end _ it. naturally, we hope there will be an end to— it. naturally, we hope there will be an end to the violence, but at this point _ an end to the violence, but at this point in _ an end to the violence, but at this point in the — an end to the violence, but at this point in the cycle, israel is very much _ point in the cycle, israel is very much doing as it chooses. if it thinks — much doing as it chooses. if it thinks maybe it doesn't need to be a re—escalation of the scale that previously occurred, naturally, we all hope _ previously occurred, naturally, we all hope that is the case. but it will he — all hope that is the case. but it will be for— all hope that is the case. but it will be for israel to decide, and absolutely anneke. none of the pressure — absolutely anneke. none of the pressure that's been put on the government is being felt in any way compared _ government is being felt in any way compared to the pressure that's being _ compared to the pressure that's being put— compared to the pressure that's being put on it by its own people. it being put on it by its own people. it was _ being put on it by its own people. it was kind — being put on it by its own people. it was kind of on the ropes before this happened. they will decide what happens _ this happened. they will decide what happens next and actually nobody else _ happens next and actually nobody else. ., i. happens next and actually nobody else. ., �* ,, ., happens next and actually nobody else. ., �* ~ ., , else. you said you didn't know, but that was some very _ else. you said you didn't know, but that was some very interesting - that was some very interesting analysis! join me now is scott walker, a hostage negotiator and a former un adviserfor the walker, a hostage negotiator and a former un adviser for the middle east and the author of order out of

chaos. you are someone who has first—hand experience of hostage negotiations. you have worked on 300 cases. that is a significant number. when you see what�*s happening at the moment, would you think the conversations are being... what conversations, i should say, do you think are being held out to try to prolong the truth? i think are being held out to try to prolong the truth?— prolong the truth? i think it's really important _ prolong the truth? i think it's really important at _ prolong the truth? i think it's really important at the - prolong the truth? i think it's| really important at the outset prolong the truth? i think it's i really important at the outset to stress _ really important at the outset to stress how — really important at the outset to stress how significant _ really important at the outset to stress how significant the - really important at the outset to stress how significant the fact. really important at the outset to . stress how significant the fact that the truce — stress how significant the fact that the truce has _ stress how significant the fact that the truce has lasted _ stress how significant the fact that the truce has lasted as _ stress how significant the fact that the truce has lasted as long - stress how significant the fact that the truce has lasted as long as - stress how significant the fact that the truce has lasted as long as it l the truce has lasted as long as it has _ the truce has lasted as long as it has let's— the truce has lasted as long as it has let's hope _ the truce has lasted as long as it has. let's hope it _ the truce has lasted as long as it has. let's hope it can— the truce has lasted as long as it has. let's hope it can continue . the truce has lasted as long as it has. let's hope it can continue a| has. let's hope it can continue a bit more — has. let's hope it can continue a bit more as— has. let's hope it can continue a bit more. as we've _ has. let's hope it can continue a bit more. as we've seen, - has. let's hope it can continue a bit more. as we've seen, therel has. let's hope it can continue ai bit more. as we've seen, there is has. let's hope it can continue a i bit more. as we've seen, there is a lot of— bit more. as we've seen, there is a lot of confusion, _ bit more. as we've seen, there is a lot of confusion, loss _ bit more. as we've seen, there is a lot of confusion, loss of _ lot of confusion, loss of uncertainty. _ lot of confusion, loss of uncertainty. both - lot of confusion, loss of uncertainty. both sidesl lot of confusion, loss of - uncertainty. both sides with lot of confusion, loss of _ uncertainty. both sides with fingers on the _ uncertainty. both sides with fingers on the triggen _ uncertainty. both sides with fingers on the trigger. there's _ uncertainty. both sides with fingers on the trigger. there's a _ uncertainty. both sides with fingers on the trigger. there's a number. uncertainty. both sides with fingers on the trigger. there's a number ofj on the trigger. there's a number of hostages _ on the trigger. there's a number of hostages where _ on the trigger. there's a number of hostages where we _ on the trigger. there's a number of hostages where we just _ on the trigger. there's a number of hostages where we just don't - on the trigger. there's a number of hostages where we just don't know| hostages where we just don't know where _ hostages where we just don't know where they— hostages where we just don't know where they are _ hostages where we just don't know where they are and _ hostages where we just don't know where they are and who's - hostages where we just don't know where they are and who's holding i where they are and who's holding them _ where they are and who's holding them it's— where they are and who's holding them it's quite _ where they are and who's holding them. it's quite a _ where they are and who's holding them. it's quite a confusing - them. it's quite a confusing picture. _ them. it's quite a confusing picture, which _ them. it's quite a confusing picture, which is _ them. it's quite a confusing picture, which is why- them. it's quite a confusing

picture, which is why it - them. it's quite a confusing picture, which is why it will| them. it's quite a confusing. picture, which is why it will be crucial— picture, which is why it will be crucial for— picture, which is why it will be crucial for the _ picture, which is why it will be crucial for the qataris- picture, which is why it will be crucial for the qataris in- picture, which is why it will be crucial for the qataris in the l crucial for the qataris in the situation _ crucial for the qataris in the situation to— crucial for the qataris in the situation to really— crucial for the qataris in the situation to really work- crucial for the qataris in the| situation to really work their crucial for the qataris in the - situation to really work their lines of communications, _ situation to really work their lines of communications, their- situation to really work their lines . of communications, their networks, with the _ of communications, their networks, with the other— of communications, their networks, with the other side _ of communications, their networks, with the other side to _ of communications, their networks, with the other side to get _ of communications, their networks, with the other side to get a - of communications, their networks, with the other side to get a bit - with the other side to get a bit more — with the other side to get a bit more clarity— with the other side to get a bit more clarity here. _ with the other side to get a bit more clarity here.— with the other side to get a bit more clarity here. that is one of the challenges, _ more clarity here. that is one of the challenges, isn't _ more clarity here. that is one of the challenges, isn't it? - more clarity here. that is one of the challenges, isn't it? we - more clarity here. that is one of. the challenges, isn't it? we know more clarity here. that is one of - the challenges, isn't it? we know to the challenges, isn�*t it? we know to our best of knowledge that the hostages were taken by hamas, but we don�*t know whose hands they may be in now. you�*ve worked on similar cases around the world. how typical is it for hostages to then be part passed to local groups and other organisations, and therefore become much more difficult to trace? it does happen, and that again poses a challenge _ does happen, and that again poses a challenge in— does happen, and that again poses a challenge in your _ does happen, and that again poses a challenge in your everyday _ does happen, and that again poses a challenge in your everyday kind - does happen, and that again poses a challenge in your everyday kind of. challenge in your everyday kind of kidnapping, — challenge in your everyday kind of kidnapping, if— challenge in your everyday kind of kidnapping. ifyou— challenge in your everyday kind of kidnapping, if you can _ challenge in your everyday kind of kidnapping, if you can call- challenge in your everyday kind of kidnapping, if you can call it- challenge in your everyday kind of kidnapping, if you can call it that. j kidnapping, if you can call it that. in kidnapping, if you can call it that. in this _ kidnapping, if you can call it that. in this case, _ kidnapping, if you can call it that. in this case, it's _ kidnapping, if you can call it that. in this case, it's magnified - kidnapping, if you can call it that. in this case, it's magnified to- in this case, it's magnified to a much _ in this case, it's magnified to a much higher— in this case, it's magnified to a much higher level. _ in this case, it's magnified to a much higher level. they- in this case, it's magnified to a much higher level. they will. in this case, it's magnified to a . much higher level. they will look in this case, it's magnified to a - much higher level. they will look to not only— much higher level. they will look to not only get— much higher level. they will look to not only get a — much higher level. they will look to not only get a proof— much higher level. they will look to not only get a proof of— much higher level. they will look to not only get a proof of life, - not only get a proof of life, that the hostages _ not only get a proof of life, that the hostages are _ not only get a proof of life, that the hostages are safe _ not only get a proof of life, that the hostages are safe and - not only get a proof of life, that the hostages are safe and well, j not only get a proof of life, that - the hostages are safe and well, but that the _ the hostages are safe and well, but that the people _

the hostages are safe and well, but that the people we're _ the hostages are safe and well, but that the people we're speaking - the hostages are safe and well, butj that the people we're speaking with actually _ that the people we're speaking with actually have — that the people we're speaking with actually have possession. _ that the people we're speaking with actually have possession. proof- that the people we're speaking with actually have possession. proof of. actually have possession. proof of possession — actually have possession. proof of possession that _ actually have possession. proof of possession that they _ actually have possession. proof of possession that they are - actually have possession. proof of possession that they are in - actually have possession. proof of possession that they are in a - possession that they are in a position— possession that they are in a position to _ possession that they are in a position to actually - possession that they are in a position to actually release i possession that they are in a - position to actually release them through— position to actually release them through negotiation. _ position to actually release them through negotiation. but - position to actually release them through negotiation. but it- position to actually release them through negotiation. but it is- position to actually release them i through negotiation. but it is quite common— through negotiation. but it is quite common for— through negotiation. but it is quite common for hostages _ through negotiation. but it is quite common for hostages to _ through negotiation. but it is quite common for hostages to be - through negotiation. but it is quite| common for hostages to be passed from one _ common for hostages to be passed from one group— common for hostages to be passed from one group to _ common for hostages to be passed from one group to another. - common for hostages to be passed from one group to another. so - common for hostages to be passed from one group to another.- from one group to another. so far, we've seen — from one group to another. so far, we've seen women _ from one group to another. so far, we've seen women and _ from one group to another. so far, we've seen women and children i from one group to another. so far, i we've seen women and children only we�*ve seen women and children only being released. is there any kind of discussion that you�*ve ever dealt with before that only kind of chooses a certain groups to be released? as a political tool in some way. it released? as a politicaltool in some way-— released? as a politicaltool in some wa . ., ., , ., some way. it would have been part of the negotiations _ some way. it would have been part of the negotiations here _ some way. it would have been part of the negotiations here to _ some way. it would have been part of the negotiations here to get - some way. it would have been part of the negotiations here to get the - the negotiations here to get the women — the negotiations here to get the women and _ the negotiations here to get the women and children _ the negotiations here to get the women and children and - the negotiations here to get the women and children and may i the negotiations here to get the| women and children and may be the negotiations here to get the - women and children and may be the elderly— women and children and may be the elderly out — women and children and may be the elderly out first. _ women and children and may be the elderly out first. unfortunately, - elderly out first. unfortunately, the military— elderly out first. unfortunately, the military hostages _ elderly out first. unfortunately, the military hostages will- elderly out first. unfortunately, the military hostages will be . the military hostages will be waiting _ the military hostages will be waiting guite _ the military hostages will be waiting quite a _ the military hostages will be waiting quite a while - the military hostages will be waiting quite a while on- the military hostages will bel waiting quite a while onjoliet the military hostages will be - waiting quite a while onjoliet —— longer— waiting quite a while onjoliet —— longer yet~ — waiting quite a while onjoliet —— longeryet it— waiting quite a while onjoliet —— longer yet. it won't _ waiting quite a while onjoliet —— longer yet. it won't be _ waiting quite a while onjoliet —— longer yet. it won't be long - waiting quite a while onjoliet —— i longer yet. it won't be long before most, _ longer yet. it won't be long before most, if— longer yet. it won't be long before most, if not — longer yet. it won't be long before most, if not all _ longer yet. it won't be long before most, if not all of _ longer yet. it won't be long before most, if not all of the _ longer yet. it won't be long before most, if not all of the women - longer yet. it won't be long before most, if not all of the women and | most, if not all of the women and children— most, if not all of the women and children will— most, if not all of the women and children will be _ most, if not all of the women and children will be released. - most, if not all of the women and children will be released. when . children will be released. when we're _ children will be released. when we're faced _ children will be released. when we're faced with _ children will be released. when we're faced with just _ children will be released. when we're faced withjust mail-

children will be released. when - we're faced with just mail hostages left and _ we're faced with just mail hostages left and just — we're faced with just mail hostages left and just military _ we're faced with just mail hostages left and just military left, - we're faced with just mail hostages left and just military left, that - left and just military left, that could — left and just military left, that could see _ left and just military left, that could see negotiations- left and just military left, that could see negotiations takingl left and just military left, thatl could see negotiations taking a different— could see negotiations taking a different turn— could see negotiations taking a different turn —— _ could see negotiations taking a different turn —— male - could see negotiations taking a i different turn —— male hostages. hamas may— different turn —— male hostages. hamas may he _ different turn —— male hostages. hamas may be looking _ different turn —— male hostages. hamas may be looking to - different turn —— male hostages. hamas may be looking to take . hamas may be looking to take depositions _ hamas may be looking to take depositions.— depositions. let's bring in our -anel depositions. let's bring in our panel- tom. _ depositions. let's bring in our panel. tom, what _ depositions. let's bring in our panel. tom, what would - depositions. let's bring in our panel. tom, what would you | depositions. let's bring in our. panel. tom, what would you like depositions. let's bring in our- panel. tom, what would you like to ask scott? he has a unique vantage point having negotiated the release of some 300 hostages. the point having negotiated the release of some 300 hostages.— of some 300 hostages. the thing i found most — of some 300 hostages. the thing i found most fascinating _ of some 300 hostages. the thing i found most fascinating about - of some 300 hostages. the thing i found most fascinating about what| of some 300 hostages. the thing i i found most fascinating about what we heard _ found most fascinating about what we heard just _ found most fascinating about what we heard just before scott came on is israel's _ heard just before scott came on is israel's strategy is quite correctly that hamas has to be destroyed if you want— that hamas has to be destroyed if you want to move forward to the possibility— you want to move forward to the possibility of any two state solution. what i don't quite understand is how these work when the pretext for them is that the other— the pretext for them is that the other party will eventually be destroyed. these hostages will be

slowly _ destroyed. these hostages will be slowly released and ultimately, even the hostage negotiators who are hamas _ the hostage negotiators who are hamas operatives, i assume, how does the solution _ hamas operatives, i assume, how does the solution work when one party has made _ the solution work when one party has made it— the solution work when one party has made it clear that the position is to quite — made it clear that the position is to quite literally destroy the other party? _ to quite literally destroy the other -a ? ., to quite literally destroy the other party?- that's _ to quite literally destroy the other party?- that's the - to quite literally destroy the other party? scott? that's the dichotomy that we're facing _ party? scott? that's the dichotomy that we're facing where _ party? scott? that's the dichotomy that we're facing where both - party? scott’s“ that's the dichotomy that we're facing where both sides, notjust_ that we're facing where both sides, not just israel. _ that we're facing where both sides, notjust israel, but— that we're facing where both sides, notjust israel, but hamas, - that we're facing where both sides, notjust israel, but hamas, want i that we're facing where both sides, i notjust israel, but hamas, want the extension _ notjust israel, but hamas, want the extension both— notjust israel, but hamas, want the extension. both side _ notjust israel, but hamas, want the extension. both side are _ notjust israel, but hamas, want the extension. both side are negotiating with each other, _ extension. both side are negotiating with each other, yet _ extension. both side are negotiating with each other, yet they— extension. both side are negotiating with each other, yet they both - extension. both side are negotiating with each other, yet they both wantl with each other, yet they both want each other— with each other, yet they both want each other to — with each other, yet they both want each other to be _ with each other, yet they both want each other to be eliminated. - with each other, yet they both want each other to be eliminated. this i with each other, yet they both want each other to be eliminated. this isj each other to be eliminated. this is why countries — each other to be eliminated. this is why countries like _ each other to be eliminated. this is why countries like qatar _ each other to be eliminated. this is why countries like qatar and - each other to be eliminated. this is why countries like qatar and egyptl why countries like qatar and egypt come _ why countries like qatar and egypt come into— why countries like qatar and egypt come into their— why countries like qatar and egypt come into their own _ why countries like qatar and egypt come into their own here - why countries like qatar and egypt come into their own here becausel come into their own here because there's— come into their own here because there's absolutely— come into their own here because there's absolutely zero trust - there's absolutely zero trust between _ there's absolutely zero trust between israel— there's absolutely zero trust between israel and - there's absolutely zero trust between israel and hamas. i there's absolutely zero trust. between israel and hamas. so, there's absolutely zero trust - between israeland hamas. so, it needs— between israeland hamas. so, it needs people _ between israeland hamas. so, it needs people like _ between israeland hamas. so, it needs people like the _ between israeland hamas. so, it needs people like the qataris- between israeland hamas. so, itj needs people like the qataris and ohjections — needs people like the qataris and ohjections to _ needs people like the qataris and objections to actually— needs people like the qataris and objections to actually build - needs people like the qataris and objections to actually build thosel objections to actually build those lines _ objections to actually build those lines and — objections to actually build those lines. and have _ objections to actually build those lines. and have a _ objections to actually build those lines. and have a different - objections to actually build those lines. and have a different type i objections to actually build thosel lines. and have a different type of dialogue _ lines. and have a different type of dialogue than _ lines. and have a different type of dialogue than if— lines. and have a different type of dialogue than if it— lines. and have a different type of dialogue than if it was _ lines. and have a different type of dialogue than if it was between i lines. and have a different type ofl dialogue than if it was between the countries _ dialogue than if it was between the countries themselves. _ dialogue than if it was between the

countries themselves.— dialogue than if it was between the countries themselves. anneke, let's brina countries themselves. anneke, let's brin: ou countries themselves. anneke, let's bring you in- — countries themselves. anneke, let's bring you in- we _ countries themselves. anneke, let's bring you in. we know— countries themselves. anneke, let's bring you in. we know the _ countries themselves. anneke, let's bring you in. we know the key role i bring you in. we know the key role that qatar has played in all this, but before that temporary cease—fire began, there was a lot of chat about the role that the united states played behind the scenes as well. yes, and president biden has been doing a greatjob keeping an eye on what the real issues are here, making clear there�*s not a lot of credibility on the policy inside. 0ne credibility on the policy inside. one of my questions for your guest who has experience with negotiations is when you have a situation where you have people saying they can�*t find the hostages, but then the 12—year—old girl who was released and said she was with her mother, and said she was with her mother, and took her away, i do follow up on that lack of good faith in a certain sense? we�*ve been very happy to see the strength of that president biden has brought and what they�*ve been doing behind the scenes. having that work to the white house, a lot of

that people have not been sleeping. thanks, anneke. let�*s bring the last point to scott, which is a good one. when you get more intelligence after hostages are released, how can that be acted upon? it hostages are released, how can that be acted upon?— be acted upon? it will be surprising to an bod be acted upon? it will be surprising to anybody that _ be acted upon? it will be surprising to anybody that in _ be acted upon? it will be surprising to anybody that in the _ to anybody that in the background, there _ to anybody that in the background, there will _ to anybody that in the background, there will be — to anybody that in the background, there will be a _ to anybody that in the background, there will be a big _ to anybody that in the background, there will be a big intelligence - there will be a big intelligence picture — there will be a big intelligence picture. when— there will be a big intelligence picture. when the _ there will be a big intelligence picture. when the hostages i there will be a big intelligence i picture. when the hostages are released. — picture. when the hostages are released, obviously— picture. when the hostages are released, obviously they're - picture. when the hostages are - released, obviously they're checked out medically. — released, obviously they're checked out medically, they're _ released, obviously they're checked out medically, they're reunited - released, obviously they're checked out medically, they're reunited with her family — out medically, they're reunited with her family all— out medically, they're reunited with her family. all of— out medically, they're reunited with her family. all of them _ out medically, they're reunited with her family. all of them are - out medically, they're reunited with her family. all of them are part- out medically, they're reunited with her family. all of them are part of. her family. all of them are part of some _ her family. all of them are part of some debrief— her family. all of them are part of some debrief that _ her family. all of them are part of some debrief that takes _ her family. all of them are part of some debrief that takes place - her family. all of them are part of some debrief that takes place to i some debrief that takes place to answer— some debrief that takes place to answer those _ some debrief that takes place to answer those very— some debrief that takes place to answer those very questions - some debrief that takes place to . answer those very questions about trying _ answer those very questions about trying to— answer those very questions about trying to identify _ answer those very questions about trying to identify where _ answer those very questions about trying to identify where were - answer those very questions about trying to identify where were theyl trying to identify where were they being _ trying to identify where were they being held. — trying to identify where were they being held. the _ trying to identify where were they being held, the nature _ trying to identify where were they being held, the nature of- trying to identify where were they being held, the nature of it, - trying to identify where were they being held, the nature of it, etc. i being held, the nature of it, etc. other— being held, the nature of it, etc. other options _ being held, the nature of it, etc. other options can _ being held, the nature of it, etc. other options can be _ being held, the nature of it, etc. other options can be worked - being held, the nature of it, etc. other options can be worked up.j other options can be worked up. or some _ 0ther options can be worked up. or some of— other options can be worked up. or some of the — other options can be worked up. or some of the negotiating at - other options can be worked up. or some of the negotiating at least. i some of the negotiating at least. scott _ some of the negotiating at least.

scott walker, _ some of the negotiating at least. scott walker, thank _ some of the negotiating at least. scott walker, thank you - some of the negotiating at least. scott walker, thank you very - some of the negotiating at least. i scott walker, thank you very much for sharing your insights as a hostage negotiator. we�*re going to go live. international red cross van in the background. and we understand that this is the release of 30 palestinians who were held in israeli jails who were freed as part of this true steel. and qatar has said that 15 are minors —— this truce deal. 15 are women. so, those live pictures there from ramallah, of celebrations, as 30 palestinian prisoners are released. it comes on the same day that 12

hostages were released by hamas. rishi sunak provokes a diplomatic row with greece after cancelling a meeting with the greek prime minister in london today. it all centres on the parthenon sculptures — also known as the elgin marbles — which are on display in the british museum, and greece wants them back. we�*ll tell you how teachers are using artificial intelligence to save time on routine tasks. and the cabinet minister michael gove apologises to bereaved families, as he gives evidence to the covid inquiry. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let�*s look at some other stories making news. a man has admitted killing three people in separate attacks in nottingham. 19—year—old students barnaby webber and grace 0�*malley—kumar, and school caretaker ian coates, died after being stabbed on the thirteenth ofjune. valdo calocane denied murder, but admitted three counts

of manslaughter on the basis of diminished responsibility. the 32—year—old also admitted the attempted murder of three others. michael gove has apologised to victims and families over government mistakes during the coronavirus pandemic. the cabinet minister disputed claims that borisjohnson was "incapable of making decisions" about lockdowns, saying the former pm found introducing them "difficult" because it was against his political outlook. but mr gove accepted lockdowns came too late both in march and november 2020. the chair of wilko and granddaughter of the shop�*s founder has told mps she�*s devastated at letting down workers, suppliers and customers. wilko collapsed in august, leaving 12,000 workers facing redundancy. you�*re live with bbc news 12,000 workers facing redundancy. i�*m 12,000 workers facing redundancy. rajini vaidyana rishi sunak has provoked a diplomatic row with greece after cancelling a meeting with the greek prime minister in london today. it all centres on the

parthenon sculptures — also known as the elgin marbles — which are on display in the british museum, and greece wants back. the elgin marbles are a collection of ancient greek sculptures removed from greece to britain by agents working for an aristocrat called thomas bruce, seventh earl of elgin. elgin stated he removed the sculptures with permission of the ottoman officials who exercised authority in athens at the time. 0thers disagree. their presence in the british museum is the subject of long—standing international controversy. the british government and the museum have argued their return would set a precedent which could undermine the collections of museums worldwide. it isa it is a very divisive issue. let�*s bring our panel back in. tom, i�*ll start with the first. what you make of this latest diplomatic spat? we saw meeting being cancelled. rishi

sunak has really, _ saw meeting being cancelled. rishi sunak has really, really _ saw meeting being cancelled. rishi sunak has really, really messed up. this notion — sunak has really, really messed up. this notion that the great prime minister— this notion that the great prime minister was coming from the uk to a three-day— minister was coming from the uk to a three—day visit in a pre—warned not to bring _ three—day visit in a pre—warned not to bring up— three—day visit in a pre—warned not to bring up the issue of the elgin marbles— to bring up the issue of the elgin marbles because our position was solid, _ marbles because our position was solid. and — marbles because our position was solid, and then when he went on the laura _ solid, and then when he went on the laura kuenssberg show and talked about— laura kuenssberg show and talked about how — laura kuenssberg show and talked about how the elgin marbles were like the _ about how the elgin marbles were like the mona lisa in france. that is therefore — like the mona lisa in france. that is therefore not satisfactory, and then— is therefore not satisfactory, and then he — is therefore not satisfactory, and then he cancelled the meeting. very publicly— then he cancelled the meeting. very publicly embarrassing the great prime _ publicly embarrassing the great prime minister. sojuvenile. it makes— prime minister. sojuvenile. it makes him look like a fisher—price my first _ makes him look like a fisher—price my first prime minister. this is really— my first prime minister. this is really low—grade. what's really interesting about this debate is actually, — interesting about this debate is actually, if you speak to or come to the opinion— actually, if you speak to or come to the opinion of a normal greek man in the opinion of a normal greek man in the street. _ the opinion of a normal greek man in the street, actually, the demand for the street, actually, the demand for the elgin _ the street, actually, the demand for the elgin marbles to be return was

talked _ the elgin marbles to be return was talked up — the elgin marbles to be return was talked up by populist leaders in the 19 talked up by populist leaders in the i91980s~ _ talked up by populist leaders in the 1919805. the average grade doesn't have a _ 1919805. the average grade doesn't have a strong feeling as we think. tom, _ have a strong feeling as we think. tom, i_ have a strong feeling as we think. tom, i have — have a strong feeling as we think. tom, i have tojump in because we had someone on in athens who said it is quite a hot issue. perhaps here in the uk, we may not be across what the sentiment is accurately. let�*s bring anneke and. how much has this made waves where you are in the us? i haven�*t seen a lot about this particular controversy, but i know this is a hot issue over here with our museums as well. the new york metropolitan museum of art has been an up position to give back artefacts to ghana. the concern was they wanted to ensure if they gave it to the nation where it originated from, it ended up in the right hands. 0ften, from, it ended up in the right hands. often, the histories behind some of these artefacts, particularly when time has passed,

it gets complicated. there might be a kingdom that originally on them in authority —— originally owned them. the british authorities are saying we have permission from 0ttomans, while the ottoman empire is no more. greece wants the artefacts back. it does become very complicated. i love the british museum. i would be sad to see the collections in general dismantled, but i do think it is good to take a look at things item by item and figure out what is the just thing to do.— by item and figure out what is the just thing to do. anneke and tom, it reall is a just thing to do. anneke and tom, it really is a hotly _ just thing to do. anneke and tom, it really is a hotly contested _ just thing to do. anneke and tom, it really is a hotly contested issue. - really is a hotly contested issue. it's really is a hotly contested issue. it�*s also a big story in india as well, where a big story in india as well, where a lot of people want some of the items, including the crown jewels. anneke anton, we�*ll be back after a short break. this is the context. there is more on our story —— anna and tom.

do stay with us here on the context. hello again. we had more sunshine around today, but it�*s getting cold very quickly now where we have those clear skies. it feels cold enough already, but the next few days are going to get even colder, more frost around. few wintry showers, but for many places, the next few days are going to be dry. colder air, though, is coming down from scandinavia and it follows this weather front here, which is moving its way southward, bringing some showers. but it�*s across northern scotland and also across some north—eastern parts of england, away from the coast that we�*re going to see some snow and icy conditions. maybe up to five centimetres over higher routes in northern scotland, a centimetre or two in the far north—east of england. a few showers moving southwards across other parts of england and wales, these are of rain. those keep it cloudy across the far south and south—west. so, here, temperatures mayjust

remain above freezing by the end of the night, but elsewhere, it looks like it�*s going to be frosty and temperatures could be as low as —7 or so in some parts of scotland. those showers in the south—west will tend to fade away, the cloud slowly tending to break up. but the showers, i think, will continue in northern scotland running down these north sea coasts, and again, they will be of a wintry flavour. snow mainly over the hills, i think, over northern scotland, but away from here, a lot of dry weather, more in the way of sunshine, again. it�*s going to be colder than it was today — two in glasgow, only four degrees maximum in birmingham. into that cold air, there is this area of low pressure here. now, again, it looks like it isjust steering to the south of the uk, but it�*s getting close and we will see some rain, through the english channel. there is a risk of some snow perhaps over dartmoor, but it looks like it is mostly rain. essentially, we�*re still in that colder air. a few more wintry showers there coming in to the north—east on that breeze, but the winds are quite light. for many, after a frosty start,

it will be dry once again. and again, it�*s going to be cold — temperatures 3—4, maybe five degrees — and that�*s a bit colder than we�*d expect at this time of the year. this is the temperature anomaly chart full of blue there across the uk. colder than average, colder than average across much of europe, and that�*s where we�*re going to see most of the snow. there won�*t be too much of that here in the uk, but for the first few days of december, we�*re still in colder air, frosty by night, mostly sunny by day. just a few wintry showers here and there.

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