that is out of the for a time today. that is out of the picture and now we have the skies clearing across many western parts of the country. there will be some showers around during the course of the night and the temperatures will tumble. broadly speaking across the northern half of the country temperatures in many towns and cities will be below freezing or hovering around. to the south, i think from the peak district, south, around 3—4 , with one think from the peak district, south, around 3—1i, with one or two exceptions. the morning starts of bright if not sunny for many of us, cold winds pushing in to the scottish mountains and there might be one or two showers in the north—east of england. showers elsewhere in the south and these are the highs, if you can call them that, 4 degrees in glasgow and six in central england, about nine on the south coast. this is wednesday. i think more frequent wintry showers in the north. maybe some travelling a little further south into lincolnshire but that's pretty much it. it will be a cold day. this is like january so two degrees for

glasgow and edinburgh, five for liverpool and then this is what we call anomaly map so it tells us whether it will be above or below average for the time of year. much of the continent below average in spain and portugal slightly warmer. cold weather is with us to stay and you can on newsnight, abigail's parentsjoin other bereaved families calling for a national inquiry into maternity care in england. speaking exclusively to newsnight, katie fowler and robert miller, whose baby abigail died at royal sussex maternity unit, talk about the trauma they went through, and claim that nobody is taking failures in maternity

care seriously. also tonight... are we heading for a standoff between the home secretary and the immigration minister over migration policy? the former immigration minister joins us from westminster. and there's to be a two—day extension of the ceasefire in gaza to allow more hostages and prisoners to be swapped, but is there anything to suggest the violence will not resume? we'll be talking to the director of the middle east institute at soas, and the international spokesman for the idf. and the standout christmas advert that has stolen a march on more big budget, festive films. ijust i just thought about christmas and charlie's and unfortunately for me there is not an undertone of loneliness and isolation with that but also the message across of the

true essence of charlie's that if you do feel lonely you were 100% find company in here. good evening. we begin tonight with the death, at two days old, of abigail fowler miller, injanuary last year. it was a death which, according to the coroner, happened after a litany of failings at a maternity unit at royal sussex county hospital. the maternity unit had been rated inadaquate by the quality care commission four months before abigal�*s death, and had been subject to whistle—blowing from its own staff to highlight its "unsafe" maternity service. it took abigail's parents kate fowler and robert miller almost two years to get to the truth about their daughter's death, until finally an inquest found that the care given to katie was substandard, and had she been given different advice, her baby's life would have been — in the words of the coroner — "significa ntly prolonged". we'll be speaking to katie and robert in a moment but first, here's sima. for years now, the headlines have been clear —

there are problems in some of england's maternity units. at their smallest, they're often their most vulnerable. babies and their mothers not always receiving the right care, potentially leading to avoidable death and injury. earlier this month, the care quality commission said the situation was unacceptable and disappointing. bbc analysis of the cqc�*s records showed it deemed 67% of maternity units not to be safe enough, up from 55% last autumn. the health care regulator, the cqc, recently said there is a deteriorating picture in maternity services. after carrying out more inspections, it says its findings are the poorest yet since it began recording data this way five years ago. it paints a grim picture and has led to more nervousness and fear among new mums—to—be.

in 2016, the nhs created a five—year plan to improve maternity services. this came off the back of a scathing review the year before into the deaths of babies at the university hospitals of morecambe bay nhs trust. another review last year into the nhs trust in shrewsbury and telford found catastrophic failures may have led to the deaths of more than 200 babies. now another story where a family has been torn apart after the loss of their child. katie fowler and robert miller lost their daughter abigail at only two days old. an inquest ruled that the baby's life could have been significantly prolonged had katie been admitted to the royal sussex county hospital in brighton sooner. the inquest was told that katie had called the hospital several times after experiencing early signs of labour.

she said she had been bleeding, but she was never called to go into the hospital. eventually, her husband called a taxi and when they arrived, she collapsed and went into cardiac arrest after experiencing a rare uterine rupture. both her and the baby had to be resuscitated. katie went into an induced coma and the baby died two days later. the inquest ruled abigail was born in poor condition and was found to have severe asphyxia, which then caused her to develop multi—organ failure from which she sadly died on 23rd january 2022. katie and rob are calling for a national inquiry into the maternity services. we look at cases across the country, we have maternity cases across the country, and we see various themes that are replicated. and it seems absolutely logical that all these inquiries that we've seen across the country, that there is some joined up thinking that all the learnings are put together and rolled out

much more efficiently. a report by the health service's safety investigations body found there is no national guidance on telephone triage of mothers' care in maternity units. the university hospital sussex nhs foundation trust told us... "we are all sorry for their loss. since the death of abigail, we have made several improvements to the way we triage our mothers. we want to do everything possible to keep them and their babies safe and to respond quickly to any early signs that may require a response. we have implemented a nationally recommended triage process and monitor our performance constantly. " the grief associated with the loss of a baby is unfathomable. but what makes it even worse is knowing that the death could have been prevented. katie and robertjoin me now.

we are very sorry for your loss. first of all, tell us what happened that night. i first of all, tell us what happened that niuht. ~ , that night. i think everything seems to be auoin that night. i think everything seems to be going 0k- _ that night. i think everything seems to be going 0k- i — that night. i think everything seems to be going ok. i was _ that night. i think everything seems to be going ok. i was having - to be going ok. i was having contractions. they were increasing. we were excited about what was to come. then about 6:30pm that evening i started to feel unwell. i was very clammy and sweaty. i was feeling faint, my lips had turned blue. at that moment rob from the maternity unit as he was concerned about what was happening. that unit as he was concerned about what was happening-— was happening. that wasn't the first coat of them? _ was happening. that wasn't the first coat of them? there _ was happening. that wasn't the first coat of them? there had _ was happening. that wasn't the first coat of them? there had been - was happening. that wasn't the first coat of them? there had been two l coat of them? there had been two others during the _ coat of them? there had been two others during the day regarding i others during the day regarding blood — others during the day regarding blood. ., . , others during the day regarding - blood.— we should

blood. you are bleeding. we should have been invited in _ blood. you are bleeding. we should have been invited in on both - have been invited in on both those times, _ have been invited in on both those times, it was agreed. by have been invited in on both those times, it was agreed.— times, it was agreed. by the time of the fourth call _ times, it was agreed. by the time of the fourth call and we _ times, it was agreed. by the time of the fourth call and we were very - the fourth call and we were very unwell by this time, but is there any suggestion that an ambulance would be sent for you?— any suggestion that an ambulance would be sent for you? know. the call was almost _ would be sent for you? know. the call was almost dismissive, - would be sent for you? know. the call was almost dismissive, we - would be sent for you? know. the | call was almost dismissive, we are not sure _ call was almost dismissive, we are not sure what was going on behind the scenes. — not sure what was going on behind the scenes, but we won't listen to. that prevented katie getting the care she needed so desperately. so care she needed so desperately. you were care she needed so desperately. sr you were desperately unwell at this point and obviously decided you were just going in a taxi, started driving, along the seafront in brighton, and katie only remembers to about halfway through the journey. she was still breathing for the rest of it but 'ust breathing for the rest of it but just as — breathing for the rest of it but just as we _ breathing for the rest of it but just as we pulled up to the hospital she collapsed and went limp and i

tried to _ she collapsed and went limp and i tried to raise her, shouted her name. — tried to raise her, shouted her name. but _ tried to raise her, shouted her name, but she wasn't responding. so name, but she wasn't responding. sc by name, but she wasn't responding. s: by that name, but she wasn't responding. by that time name, but she wasn't responding. sr by that time you are completely unconscious. you try to get help in the hospital? taste unconscious. you try to get help in the hospital?— unconscious. you try to get help in the hospital? we pulled up outside the hospital? we pulled up outside the maternity _ the hospital? we pulled up outside the maternity unit, _ the hospital? we pulled up outside the maternity unit, it _ the hospital? we pulled up outside the maternity unit, it wasn't - the hospital? we pulled up outside the maternity unit, it wasn't a&e i the maternity unit, it wasn't a&e arising. — the maternity unit, it wasn't a&e arising. no— the maternity unit, it wasn't a&e arising, no obvious sign of where to -et arising, no obvious sign of where to get help. _ arising, no obvious sign of where to get help. so— arising, no obvious sign of where to get help, so i had tojust run into the hospital and find someone. aml the hospital and find someone. am i riaht in the hospital and find someone. am i right in saying _ the hospital and find someone. am i right in saying that _ the hospital and find someone. jéh i right in saying that what the hospital and find someone. ish i right in saying that what happened was that in the hospital reception he had an emergency cesarean while they were trying to resuscitate you? that is right. you they were trying to resuscitate you? that is right-— that is right. you were obviously standin: that is right. you were obviously standing back — that is right. you were obviously standing back from _ that is right. you were obviously standing back from this. - that is right. you were obviously standing back from this. i - that is right. you were obviously standing back from this. i was i that is right. you were obviously| standing back from this. i was on that is right. you were obviously l standing back from this. i was on a side room but _ standing back from this. i was on a side room but could _ standing back from this. i was on a side room but could hear— standing back from this. i was on a side room but could hear the - side room but could hear the activity _ side room but could hear the activi . ., ., , , side room but could hear the activi . ., .,, ., , , , activity. you were obviously very unwell at this _ activity. you were obviously very unwell at this point, _ activity. you were obviously very unwell at this point, you - activity. you were obviously very unwell at this point, you had - activity. you were obviously very unwell at this point, you had no| unwell at this point, you had no idea what was happening? until two days later because they had put you into a, ? t days later because they had put you into a,? ., , days later because they had put you into a,? ., ., days later because they had put you into a,? ., . days later because they had put you into a,? . . ., into a,? i was in an induced coma because of— into a,? i was in an induced coma because of the _ into a,? i was in an induced coma because of the cardiac _ into a,? i was in an induced coma because of the cardiac arrest - into a,? i was in an induced comaj because of the cardiac arrest they

weren't sure. her because of the cardiac arrest they weren't sure-— weren't sure. her organs were struggling. — weren't sure. her organs were struggling. she _ weren't sure. her organs were struggling, she had _ weren't sure. her organs were struggling, she had a - weren't sure. her organs were struggling, she had a lack - weren't sure. her organs were struggling, she had a lack of l struggling, she had a lack of oxygen _ struggling, she had a lack of oxygen i_ struggling, she had a lack of oxygen. i was spending my time between — oxygen. i was spending my time between abigail and katie and they both had _ between abigail and katie and they both had very similar prognosis. at the both had very similar prognosis. the point both had very similar prognosis. it the point she knew there was no future for abigail you were saying to the hospital that she wanted katie to have a chance to be with abigail and what was happening? i spent a day telling any doctor or nurse _ spent a day telling any doctor or nurse that— spent a day telling any doctor or nurse that would listen that the only thing we wanted now was for katie _ only thing we wanted now was for katie to— only thing we wanted now was for katie to meet abigail. by only thing we wanted now was for katie to meet abigail.— only thing we wanted now was for katie to meet abigail. by this time katie was in _ katie to meet abigail. by this time katie was in her _ katie to meet abigail. by this time katie was in her coma _ katie to meet abigail. by this time katie was in her coma so _ katie to meet abigail. by this time katie was in her coma so there - katie to meet abigail. by this time | katie was in her coma so there was only you and you were getting no support from the hospital but you are pushing for this? i had support from the hospital but you are pushing for this?— are pushing for this? i had to go out and ask— are pushing for this? i had to go out and ask for _ are pushing for this? i had to go out and ask for it. _ are pushing for this? i had to go out and ask for it. and - are pushing for this? i had to go out and ask for it. and it - are pushing for this? i had to go i out and ask for it. and it happened eventually- — out and ask for it. and it happened eventually- it _ out and ask for it. and it happened eventually. it happened _ out and ask for it. and it happened eventually. it happened and - out and ask for it. and it happened eventually. it happened and we - out and ask for it. and it happened | eventually. it happened and we are crateful to eventually. it happened and we are grateful to those _ eventually. it happened and we are grateful to those people _ eventually. it happened and we are grateful to those people who - eventually. it happened and we are grateful to those people who madej eventually. it happened and we are l grateful to those people who made it happen, _ grateful to those people who made it happen, they know who they are. you of course then — happen, they know who they are. mt, of course then had to go through this terrible trauma but you were so very unwell. this terrible trauma but you were so very unwell-— this terrible trauma but you were so ve unwell. , ., , , g very unwell. yes. i was woken up. my last memory —

very unwell. yes. i was woken up. my last memory was _ very unwell. yes. i was woken up. my last memory was going _ very unwell. yes. i was woken up. my last memory was going to _ very unwell. yes. i was woken up. my last memory was going to hospital- last memory was going to hospital thinking i was going to be bringing home a baby girl and then i was woken up and told that she was dying and it was the worst moment of my life. i can't put it into words. you sa ou life. i can't put it into words. you say you told _ life. i can't put it into words. you say you told me _ life. i can't put it into words. you say you told me the _ life. i can't put it into words. you say you told me the care you received from the hospital was good but when it came to people talking about what had gone wrong and nobody really wanted to talk to you about it at all? ., ~ really wanted to talk to you about it at all? ., . ., ., ., it at all? no. we had an external investigation _ it at all? no. we had an external investigation that _ it at all? no. we had an external investigation that found - it at all? no. we had an external investigation that found issues . it at all? no. we had an external i investigation that found issues with the care we had had and we hope that after that we would be able to speak to the hospital honestly about what had happened and get some accountability from them, but there has been none forthcoming. and accountability from them, but there has been none forthcoming. find it accountability from them, but there has been none forthcoming. and it is onl when has been none forthcoming. and it is only when you _ has been none forthcoming. and it is only when you went _ has been none forthcoming. and it is only when you went to _ has been none forthcoming. and it is only when you went to your- has been none forthcoming. and it is only when you went to your mp, - has been none forthcoming. and it is only when you went to your mp, who j only when you went to your mp, who he said go for an inquest? he only when you went to your mp, who he said go for an inquest?— he said go for an inquest? he said was an inquest — he said go for an inquest? he said was an inquest and _ he said go for an inquest? he said was an inquest and we _ he said go for an inquest? he said was an inquest and we said - he said go for an inquest? he said was an inquest and we said no, i he said go for an inquest? he said l was an inquest and we said no, and he said go for an inquest? he said i was an inquest and we said no, and i think he thought they should have been. , , ., , , .,

been. peter kyle? obviously we heard what hospital— been. peter kyle? obviously we heard what hospital had _ been. peter kyle? obviously we heard what hospital had to _ been. peter kyle? obviously we heard what hospital had to say _ been. peter kyle? obviously we heard what hospital had to say about - been. peter kyle? obviously we heard what hospital had to say about all- what hospital had to say about all this in the package but we were clear what the inquest said, that they were terrible failings in the maternity care. there were two things you want. tell me about those. , ., , , ., those. the first one, representative of what happened _ those. the first one, representative of what happened to _ those. the first one, representative of what happened to us, _ those. the first one, representative of what happened to us, the - of what happened to us, the telephone triage, there is no nationat— telephone triage, there is no national telephone triage guidance in england. there needs to be and it needs— in england. there needs to be and it needs to _ in england. there needs to be and it needs to happen quickly. people like me and _ needs to happen quickly. people like me and katie are suffering everyday because _ me and katie are suffering everyday because isn't one. he me and katie are suffering everyday because isn't one.— because isn't one. he also wants a national inquiry. _ because isn't one. he also wants a national inquiry. s. _ because isn't one. he also wants a national inquiry. s. we _ because isn't one. he also wants a national inquiry. s. we have i because isn't one. he also wants a national inquiry. s. we have had i because isn't one. he also wants a i national inquiry. s. we have had the morecambe — national inquiry. s. we have had the morecambe bay. — national inquiry. s. we have had the morecambe bay, shrewsbury- national inquiry. s. we have had the morecambe bay, shrewsbury and i morecambe bay, shrewsbury and telford. — morecambe bay, shrewsbury and telford, the east kent and currently the nottingham inquiries into individual trusts and i think it is clear— individual trusts and i think it is clear that — individual trusts and i think it is clear that this isn't about individual trusts any more, this is a nationat— individual trusts any more, this is a national sheet. just individual trusts any more, this is a national sheet.— individual trusts any more, this is a national sheet. just going back to ou too a national sheet. just going back to you too for— a national sheet. just going back to you too for a _ a national sheet. just going back to you too for a moment, _ a national sheet. just going back to you too for a moment, you -

a national sheet. just going back to you too for a moment, you have i a national sheet. just going back to you too for a moment, you have anj you too for a moment, you have an apology for the pain you have been put through but you haven't had an apology for the shortcomings in maternity care. what do you make of that. it maternity care. what do you make of that. ., ~ , , maternity care. what do you make of that. . ~ , , ., that. it makes everything that the hos - ital that. it makes everything that the hospital has _ that. it makes everything that the hospital has said _ that. it makes everything that the hospital has said seem _ that. it makes everything that the hospital has said seem quite i hospital has said seem quite insincere. i can't understand, having cost us so much, why they wouldn't say sorry. for having cost us so much, why they wouldn't say sorry.— having cost us so much, why they wouldn't say sorry. for what went wronr. wouldn't say sorry. for what went wrong- thank— wouldn't say sorry. for what went wrong. thank you _ wouldn't say sorry. for what went wrong. thank you both _ wouldn't say sorry. for what went wrong. thank you both very i wouldn't say sorry. for what went wrong. thank you both very much wouldn't say sorry. for what went i wrong. thank you both very much for coming in. we asked the department of health and social care last week if a minister would be able to discuss the state of maternity care with us, but they declined. the minister for women s health strategy, maria caulfield said, "my deepest sympathies go out to the family of abigail fowler miller. we are working incredibly hard to improve maternity services, focusing on recruitment, training, and the retention of midwives. we have invested £165 million a year since 2021 to grow the maternity workforce and improve neonatal services and are promoting careers in midwifery by increasing training places by more than 3,650 over

the past four years. we welcome the care quality commission's commitment to monitor nhs trusts that are not providing adequate care to make sure improvements are made as quickly as possible. to do this, we have created a maternity safety support programme, dedicated to providing hands—on support to ensure trusts improve. migration, legal and illegal, is still at the top of rishi sunak�*s to do list, and if anything, the pressure is greater than it was two weeks ago when the prime minister showed suella braverman the door. the latest set of figures — updated by the office for national statistics four days ago — puts net migration in 2022 at a record 745,000 people. estimates for untiljune of this year are already at 672,000. the immigration minister robert jenrick, known to be close to suella braverman, has drawn up

a set of proposals which he has shared with number 10. among his suggestions are a required minimum annual salary of £35,000 in order to receive a work visa, and scrapping the shortage 0ccupation list. however the independent public body that advises the government on migration isues, the migration advisory committee, has recommended in their latest review of the list that that care workers and senior care workers remain on it. as far is illegal migration is concerned, robertjenrick had backed suella braverman's rwanda plan, and he's made it clear that he, like her, is prepared to scrap the human rights act to get a close version of her plan off the ground, no matter it would put him on a collision course with the foreign secretary. here's nick. a palace of intrigue down the ages. a palace of power. and today, a palace to sell britain to the world.

we don't have a monopoly on talent in this country. move here, was the prime minister's message to the innovators. if you're an innovator, an entrepreneur, a researcher, you should know that the most competitive visa regime for highly skilled international talent is right here in the uk. hardly the tone of recent days. both leaders meeting investors today, and in agreement last week that arrivals are too high after the net migration figure reached nearly 750,000 in 2022. this is fast becoming an election battleground on two fronts. illegal migration, the rwanda resettlement plan to stop the small boats, and legal migration, how to control numbers lawfully admitted. and pressure on the prime minister after suella braverman claimed she had a deal with him to reduce those numbers by raising the minimum salary threshold to £a0,000, restricting the number of dependants

an overseas worker can bring, axing the two year graduate visa, and cutting back visas for non— russell group universities. and suella braverman says rishi sunak has failed to deliver, though what he said today about attracting the best talent was consistent with her demands. labour accused the government of failing to achieve its rwanda plan and allowing high net migration by failing to improve skills in the workforce. they've been in power for 13 years and all we've got is chaos and briefing wars. his backbenchers are already calling him colonel calamity. he's got corporal chaos next to him on the benches, given the mess he's inherited and his penchant for profanity, does he accept he's now up a certain kind of creek without a paddle? the right honourable lady

is someone i admire hugely, and one of the things that i admire most is about how she managed now to beat the dispatch box two times and fail to ask anything resembling a sensible question about the issues that we are discussing here. when her party was in government, they addressed... ..they addressed the volumes... the volumes of migrations. but by simply redefining those people, wiping the slate clean and pretending there was never a problem. immigration is a huge issue between the parties and within the parties. only a few hours ago over there, the immigration minister, robert jenrick, talked about how the current numbers threaten the cohesion and unity of the country. not quite the tone struck by other members of the cabinet. clearly a big issue in the run up to the election and perhaps a debate about the trade offs between the economy as currently constituted and migration levels. all the projections before brexit suggested that actually, as a result of ending free movement, migration to the uk would go down. now that hasn't happened at all. an expert says the post—brexit

migration regime has been liberal as a result of the war in ukraine and to help core sectors of the economy such as the care industry. the problem the government faces is that because public funding is so limited in the care sector, the pay and conditions just aren't good enough to attract british workers into those roles. and that's why we have relied so heavily on foreign workers. so if the government wants to reduce the number of foreign workers coming in on work visas, it's difficult to see a way of doing that without doing something about the care sector. and either that means cutting off access to the care sector or significantly reducing access to the care sector. and going back to some of the shortages that we were experiencing a year or so ago, or it means finding some way to pay british workers more and increase and improve their conditions. and that, of course, is expensive. so there are always trade offs. a palace at the heart of english history and a new chapter as this country grapples with the consequences of global change.

joining me now is tim loughton, conservative mp for east worthing and shoreham, a member of the home affairs select committee and former minister for children and families. thank you forjoining us. dealing with illegal immigration, is this coming down to a battle on whether the uk leaves the echr? ida. coming down to a battle on whether the uk leaves the echr?— coming down to a battle on whether the uk leaves the echr? no, that is the uk leaves the echr? no, that is the last thing _ the uk leaves the echr? no, that is the last thing that _ the uk leaves the echr? no, that is the last thing that we _ the uk leaves the echr? no, that is the last thing that we need - the uk leaves the echr? no, that is the last thing that we need to i the uk leaves the echr? no, that is the last thing that we need to be i the last thing that we need to be considering doing. the situation is there are far too many people coming across the channel illegally using people smugglers. the number is down on last year by more than 30% at a time when illegal immigration has been going up into the rest of europe so some success but still too high and a long way to go to make sure we are in control of that. part of that is the rwanda deal and part of that is the rwanda deal and part of that is the rwanda deal and part

of that is processing asylum claims much more quickly. also having more return solutions for people who have failed their applications and have no right to be in the uk. all those things need to come together before we start talking about changes to the international law. melt we start talking about changes to the international law. well suella braverman _ the international law. well suella braverman thinks _ the international law. well suella braverman thinks we _ the international law. well suella braverman thinks we need i the international law. well suella braverman thinks we need to i the international law. well suella i braverman thinks we need to leave the echr and we understand that robertjenrick who is close to her is leading the charge. robert jenrick who is close to her is leading the charge.— robert jenrick who is close to her is leading the charge. there are all kinds of implications _ is leading the charge. there are all kinds of implications about - is leading the charge. there are all kinds of implications about leaving | kinds of implications about leaving the echr or serious disregard for that, the knock—on on trade agreements and other things so that is the last thing that we should consider. but the echr is not perfect and there are many other european countries who are clearing some of the judgments that it has been making. the strasbourg court itself admitted a couple of weeks

ago that they need to reform it so changes can be made to make sure that we can get some of the things we need to get for a rwanda style deal in the next few months. in the next few months. _ deal in the next few months. in the next few months. but _ deal in the next few months. in the next few months. but not - deal in the next few months. in the l next few months. but not necessarily happening any time soon and i wonder if a rwanda deal is really a necessary condition for you to stop the boats. you're talking about other mitigating things you can do but is that rwanda deal a condition for getting the boat stopped? the roblem for getting the boat stopped? tue: problem with the for getting the boat stopped? tue problem with the rwanda for getting the boat stopped? tue: problem with the rwanda deal is the fact that people coming across the channel come into the uk illegally from certain countries and it is virtually impossible to be able to return them to those countries. iran or eritrea. so if they have a failed asylum claim it is difficult to extradite them from the uk. that the rwanda scheme comes in as a third

party to which they could be sent to have their claims assessed and that itself would act as a deterrent to making the journey in the first place. as we know on the home affairs select committee. looking at the fi . ures affairs select committee. looking at the figures is — affairs select committee. looking at the figures is it _ affairs select committee. looking at the figures is it a _ the figures is it a necessary condition? it the figures is it a necessary condition?— the figures is it a necessary condition? :, , . , condition? it is one of the pieces ofthe condition? it is one of the pieces of the jigsaw— condition? it is one of the pieces of the jigsaw that _ condition? it is one of the pieces of the jigsaw that we _ condition? it is one of the pieces of the jigsaw that we need i condition? it is one of the pieces of the jigsaw that we need to i condition? it is one of the pieces l of the jigsaw that we need to solve this problem. it is a three prong problem, stopping the boats in the first place and the rwanda scheme is a deterrent to make people think twice because it would be a lottery they end up in a hotel in kent or rwanda. �* :, ., ., rwanda. but without the rwanda scheme you _ rwanda. but without the rwanda scheme you do — rwanda. but without the rwanda scheme you do not _ rwanda. but without the rwanda scheme you do not have - rwanda. but without the rwanda scheme you do not have that i rwanda. but without the rwanda scheme you do not have that big | scheme you do not have that big stick? :, , , scheme you do not have that big stick? . , , , ., stick? that is why it is an important _ stick? that is why it is an important part _ stick? that is why it is an important part of- stick? that is why it is an important part of that i stick? that is why it is an i important part of that three stick? that is why it is an - important part of that three prong attack. what would kill this overnight if france would agree that when the intercept migrants on the beaches then the arrest and detain them and at the intercept the boats at sea than they would bring the passengers back to french beaches.

so they have a very expensive return round trip. the french will not do that and without that we have had to look at these more drastic schemes such as the rwanda scheme which no other european countries such as france, austria and italy and denmark are interested in themselves.— denmark are interested in themselves. :, :, :, themselves. thank you for 'oining us. tonight the ceasefire in gaza is holding, and a deal between hamas and egypt and qatar has been reached to extend the truce for two days. hamas is prepared to release up to a0 additional hostages, which equates to a four day extension but israel is apparently going day by day. late tonight, on the fourth day of the ceasefire hamas released 11 hostages — all women and children — including three—year—old twins. israel released 33 palestinians from israeli prisons including 30 children and three women. so where does this leave the chances for a longer ceasefire? in a moment i'll be speaking to professor lina khatib director of soas middle east institute, and fom tel aviv, lieutenant coloneljonathan conricus, the international spokesperson

for the idf. but first i'm joined by mark. mark — how likely is it that these temporary truces will keep rolling on? as she said in the intro we now know the possibility of another two days. they will get to a point and i was doing the rough sums and let say they add another couple of days after these first two days when you get to around 100 hostages released, then you start to think of the more difficult categories. maybe 60 or so israeli military hostages. some of those from other countries, other men, civilian men which hamas has differentiated, taken from the border and the possibility of others who have died and that all gets much more difficult and at that point i think there will definitely be

difficult questions particularly for israel about whether to resume full—scale military operation in gaza. ih full-scale military operation in gaza. .. full-scale military operation in gaza. :, ii" full-scale military operation in gaza. :, ::"':: gaza. in fact from 2011, 1027 palestinians _ gaza. in fact from 2011, 1027 palestinians were _ gaza. in fact from 2011, 1027 palestinians were released l gaza. in fact from 2011, 1027| palestinians were released for gaza. in fact from 2011, 1027 - palestinians were released for one israeli soldier so that is a possible trading arrangement. hamas also indicated — possible trading arrangement. hamas also indicated when _ possible trading arrangement. hamas also indicated when they _ possible trading arrangement. hamas also indicated when they get - possible trading arrangement. hamas also indicated when they get to i possible trading arrangement. hamas also indicated when they get to it i also indicated when they get to it military hostages they expect a very different cost both for the importance of the prisoners and the numbers. lots of pressure on israel from humanitarian organisations and allies to extend the ceasefire. many people saying this is how conflicts tend to end but on the other hand you have what a lot of people see as a paradigms shift on the part of israel and a desire not to do this in a way that these things are normally done and to resume hostilities in a few days to cause serious military damage to hamas. thank you very much. joining me now is the international spokesperson for the idf,

lieutenant coloneljonathan conricus who is in tel aviv. cani can ijust can i just ask, can ijust ask, the white house said today they hope to see the pores extended further. is that what the idf want? ,:, :, extended further. is that what the idf want? ,., :, ., ,, extended further. is that what the idf want? ,:, :, ., ,, i. idf want? good evening. thank you for havin: idf want? good evening. thank you for having me- _ idf want? good evening. thank you for having me. less _ idf want? good evening. thank you for having me. less relevant - idf want? good evening. thank you for having me. less relevant of- idf want? good evening. thank you for having me. less relevant of the | for having me. less relevant of the idea of what the idf want, we execute orders from the government and we are ready to facilitate the very happy images of people being rescued and coming home to their families after 52 days of intense creativity, that is a beautiful thing and on the other hand we are also ready, and i might add would be very more than ready to continue operations against hamas because what we have is a situation as we had on october the 7th, a situation

thatis had on october the 7th, a situation that is unsustainable for israel and i do not think anyone around the world that may be pressuring israel or calling us to continue with the pause and stop the war, i do not think that they fully grasp the severity of the situation, we cannot continue living under the threat of hamas. i5 continue living under the threat of hamas. , ., , :, continue living under the threat of hamas. , :, ., , hamas. is the release of hostages cominr at hamas. is the release of hostages coming at a _ hamas. is the release of hostages coming at a cost _ hamas. is the release of hostages coming at a cost of _ hamas. is the release of hostages coming at a cost of your— hamas. is the release of hostages coming at a cost of your operation j coming at a cost of your operation against hamas? it is coming at a cost of your operation against hamas?— coming at a cost of your operation against hamas? it is temporary and as with many _ against hamas? it is temporary and as with many things _ against hamas? it is temporary and as with many things you _ against hamas? it is temporary and as with many things you choose i as with many things you choose between imperfect options and in this case the good side is that the ten or 11 more hostages will be freed and returned to their families. freed and returned to their families-— freed and returned to their families. , :, ., :, ., families. just to ask more about the hosta . es, families. just to ask more about the hostages. what _ families. just to ask more about the hostages, what are _ families. just to ask more about the hostages, what are they _ families. just to ask more about the hostages, what are they telling i families. just to ask more about the hostages, what are they telling you | hostages, what are they telling you about their incarceration? thea;r hostages, what are they telling you about their incarceration?— about their incarceration? they are tellin: us about their incarceration? they are telling us of _ about their incarceration? they are telling us of course _ about their incarceration? they are telling us of course of _ about their incarceration? they are telling us of course of very - telling us of course of very horrible and harsh conditions. of very little food. of the continuous presence and pressure of hamas

terrorists as soon as they took them to the tunnels and very interestingly they are telling us how heavily choreographed and rehearsed the return ceremony was and how important it is for hamas that they smile, that our hostages smile and wave and look friendly towards their cruel captors. this is something that appears to have been very important for hamas because they really want that international media and perhaps indemnification of the horrible image of brutal terrorists so important for them to have that media rehearsed. and those smiling pictures. i have that media rehearsed. and those smiling pictures-— smiling pictures. i was asking mark about whether _ smiling pictures. i was asking mark about whether or _ smiling pictures. i was asking mark about whether or not _ smiling pictures. i was asking mark about whether or not and _ smiling pictures. i was asking mark about whether or not and obviously we all hope that women and children are all released, will hamas seek to

change the equation? we spoke about 2011 by more than a thousand palestinians were released for one israeli soldier and presumably that could be the scenario again? i do not think it _ could be the scenario again? i do not think it will _ could be the scenario again? i do not think it will be _ could be the scenario again? i rr not think it will be because we are in a totally different situation. at that time we did not have israeli troops inside gaza and there was no cabinet decision to end hamas and defeat hamas so a different situation. i understand why you use that as a reference but i do not think it is a relevant reference. i think it is a relevant reference. i think you are correct in the sense that hamas may classified the ratio so to speak to be very machiavellian about it but the ratio may be different. in any case the war will end with the defeat of hamas and with our hostages home.- end with the defeat of hamas and with our hostages home. thank you very much- — i'm nowjoined by professor lina khatib, director of the soas

middle east institute. if the pressure is going to come on hamas from somewhere where will that place be? hamas from somewhere where will that lace be? ~ , ,, hamas from somewhere where will that lacebe?~ , , place be? multiple places. the arab world, the united _ place be? multiple places. the arab world, the united states, _ place be? multiple places. the arab world, the united states, hopefully| world, the united states, hopefully other actors like europe, definitely israel, but in terms of who has leveraged, definitely qatar is the actor that is closest to hamas. it is the intermediary right now between israel and hamas and the hostage prisoner exchange deal. it hosts the political leadership of hamas so we can expect them to play a bigger role. hamas so we can expect them to play a bigger role-— a bigger role. qatar has been -la in: a bigger role. qatar has been playing this _ a bigger role. qatar has been playing this big _ a bigger role. qatar has been playing this big role - a bigger role. qatar has been playing this big role but i a bigger role. qatar has been playing this big role but in i a bigger role. qatar has been| playing this big role but in the long term there is jeopardy for them because if they host the hamas political leadership there may be opprobrium eventually heaped on qatarfor opprobrium eventually heaped on qatar for doing opprobrium eventually heaped on qatarfor doing that. opprobrium eventually heaped on qatar for doing that. qatar opprobrium eventually heaped on qatar for doing that.— opprobrium eventually heaped on qatar for doing that. qatar has been hostin: qatar for doing that. qatar has been hosting them _ qatar for doing that. qatar has been hosting them at _ qatar for doing that. qatar has been hosting them at the _ qatar for doing that. qatar has been hosting them at the request - qatar for doing that. qatar has been hosting them at the request of- qatar for doing that. qatar has been hosting them at the request of the l hosting them at the request of the united states. this is not a unilateral decision that qatar

suddenly tried to make. it has been playing this role for many years. it is part of the unique selling point of qatar as a diplomatic actor in the region and it now wants to show that this approach of talking to everybody is useful. irate that this approach of talking to everybody is useful.— that this approach of talking to everybody is useful. we were 'ust talkinr everybody is useful. we were 'ust talking about fl everybody is useful. we were 'ust talking about women i everybody is useful. we were 'ust talking about women and i everybody is useful. we were just talking about women and children being released and then there is a change ofjeopardy being released and then there is a change of jeopardy when being released and then there is a change ofjeopardy when it comes to men and soldiers. what do you think? it is a very important point to make because hamas the military hostages are highly valuable and that is why we are not likely to see the release of military hostages in any extension of the current truce. none at all? interesting _ extension of the current truce. none at all? interesting because - extension of the current truce. none at all? interesting because i - at all? interesting because i suppose the equation changes when all hostages are released anyway and so you think it is very important that hamas hold on to men and soldiers for as long as they can. definitely the soldiers. ih soldiers for as long as they can. definitely the soldiers.- definitely the soldiers. in that case do you —

definitely the soldiers. in that case do you think _ definitely the soldiers. in that case do you think that - definitely the soldiers. in that l case do you think that increases definitely the soldiers. in that i case do you think that increases the chance of further violence in the area and that violence extending more to the south of gaza? this is what israel — more to the south of gaza? this is what israel has _ more to the south of gaza? this is what israel has been _ more to the south of gaza? this is what israel has been saying i more to the south of gaza? this is what israel has been saying in i more to the south of gaza? this is l what israel has been saying in terms of its military objectives, that next it will move to the south. the only issue remains, it is not about whether it will do it, it is the extent to which it will do it. the question is will there be large—scale bombing of southern gaza like we have seen in northern gaza or will israel actually pursue more targeted operations wears white in fact the new foreign secretary lord cameron has been given a warning to the israelis in terms of casualties, to rein in the casualties. what do you make of the narrative but this pause gives hamas more time to regroup and rearm? j pause gives hamas more time to regroup and ream?— pause gives hamas more time to regroup and rearm?_ regroup and rearm? i don't think the need regroup and rearm? i don't think they need to _ regroup and rearm? i don't think they need to regroup _ regroup and rearm? i don't think they need to regroup and - regroup and rearm? i don't think they need to regroup and rearm. regroup and rearm? i don't think- they need to regroup and rearm. one indicator is the way it has been conducting the hostage release. as

we heard it is a very carefully planned operation and this shows you that the operational infrastructure of hamas is still relatively resilient. and sol of hamas is still relatively resilient. and so i don't think it will gain that much from a temporary stop infighting. d0 will gain that much from a temporary step infighting-— stop infighting. do you see this for leadin: to stop infighting. do you see this for leading to hamas _ stop infighting. do you see this for leading to hamas taking _ stop infighting. do you see this for leading to hamas taking pole - leading to hamas taking pole position in the west bank? what position in the west bank? what hamas wants — position in the west bank? what hamas wants is _ position in the west bank? what hamas wants is to _ position in the west bank? what hamas wants is to be _ position in the west bank? what hamas wants is to be seen - position in the west bank? wusgit hamas wants is to be seen as position in the west bank? wusgt hamas wants is to be seen as the only political representative of the palestinians and i think it will do whatever it can to rally support and kind of rally political action towards its cause. and so eyes on the west bank, it is a very wise thing to do. the west bank, it is a very wise thing to de— the west bank, it is a very wise thing to tie-— the west bank, it is a very wise thin to do. ., ~ ,, , . ., thing to do. thank you very much for 'oinin: us. the numbers speak for themselves". ahead of today's global investment summit at hampton court this is what business secretary kemi badenoch said about the uk's record on attracting foreign direct investment in recent years. but how have brexit and the political turmoil of these

years affected the perception of britain as an investment opportunity in the eyes of international investors? to see if the numbers really do speakfor themselves, here's ben. the prime minister, rishi sunak, stressed today that attracting global investment is at the heart of his plan for growing the uk economy. and the business secretary, kemi badenoch, said that the numbers speak for themselves when it comes to the uk's relative success in this area. but is this true? let's analyse this using newsnight�*s global tracker. this shows the amount of foreign direct investment in the uk. this is essentially long term investments by overseas businesses. it currently stands at around £2 trillion, big money, around 80% of the size of the entire economy. and this looks like a healthy picture of growing investment from abroad. but there's some evidence when you dig into the data that the picture is less rosy. this shows investment into the uk — new investments in blue, purchases of existing stakes in businesses in green.

but those stakes have also been sold down by overseas investors in increasing volumes in recent years — shown in pink. so if you look at the net inflows of foreign investment, taking into account purchases and sales, the picture has been one of decline since 2016 and actually a net outflow in 2021, although in fairness, that's likely to have been related to the disruption of the pandemic. nevertheless, if you look at the number of inward investment deals, the uk, which will be shown here in pink, which was number one in europe until 2017, has now fallen below france, shown in blue. and this shows the uk's share of the total number of european inward investment projects. we've fallen from a 20% share in 2015 to around 16% last year. a final bit of evidence from the accountancy firm ey annual european foreign

investment survey, which asks investors to rank countries by how attractive they are as prospects. in 2021, around 40% put the uk at number one, now that's slipped to 32% — below france and germany. experts warn that these figures are volatile, but argue that the hit to sentiment and the declining uk share of projects likely reflects a combination of brexit and political instability, including the fact we've had three prime ministers last year. so if you think, if you're making a kind of multi—billion investment, you want some certainty, you want regulatory certainty, you want political certainty that the regime under which i'm making that investment is not going to change. and i think that has been a challenge, that lack of political certainty. i think we need to be honest that brexit is a headwind or has been a headwind for inward investment. so if you were an investor that was looking to, an overseas investor that was looking to establish your operations in the uk to serve the single market, then the uk outside of the single market is just less attractive to that type of investment. and other external

challenges are growing. business groups warn that joe biden's massive us inflation reduction act, subsidies for clean energy and the european response is likely to pull investment to those territories unless the uk government does more to compete. there was some good news on the investment front for the uk last week when nissan committed to building two new electric vehicle models in the north—east of england. but experts stress the reality is that after a turbulent period, there's still a long road for the uk to recover and to secure its attractiveness as an investment destination in an increasingly competitive global environment. never more than at christmas are we bombarded with adverts on social media and tv urging is to buy stuff — much of which we probably don't need. but there's an unexpected hit this year, made in a pub in eniskillen is county fermanagh. granted one of the stars is a dog — she's called missy, but the storyline in charlie's bar is about lonelieness and community— and its racked up

millions of views in the last 48 hours. # god knows what is hiding in this world of little consequence. # behind the tears, inside the lies. # a thousand slowly dying sunsets. # god knows what is hiding in those weak and drunken hearts. # i guess the loneliness came knocking. # no one needs to be alone, oh save me # people, help the people # and if you're homesick, give me your hand and i'll hold it # people, help the people # nothing will drag you down... earlier i spoke to the manager of charlie's bar, una burns.

i began by asking her to tell us a bit about the history of the bar.