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israel says it will allow two fuel trucks a day into gaza, after the un is forced to suspend aid deliveries to the strip. a funeral is held for a 19—year—old soldier taken hostage by hamas. israel says her body was found near al—shifa hospital. and turkey's president makes a state visit to germany despite friction over the two countries�* different positions on the gaza conflict. in other news — the uk prime minister denies "tinkering" with the rwanda asylum plan after the home secretary he sacked said more radical action is needed to save the scheme. in sport, everton are docked ten points for violating premier league financial rules, the biggest sanction in the competition's history.
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hello, i'm matthew amroliwala. welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories, aid agencies say they have been forced to halt deliveries into gaza — because of fuel shortages and a communications shutdown. the un's biggest agency in gaza said it was no longer able to bring in or distribute vital aid, deepening the misery of people there, who are surviving on tiny amounts of food and water. but israel's war cabinet, has now approved letting in two fuel lorries a day, to help meet the un's needs, after a request from the us. a funeral has been held for a 19—year—old soldier held hostage by hamas, whose body was found by israeli troops in a building near gaza's biggest hospital. hamas says noa marciano died in an israeli air strike. on thursday, the military also discovered the body of 65—year—old hostage yahudit weiss. israel's prime minister has told cbs news that they found a hamas command centre at the site,
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but hasn't yet provided conclusive evidence. benjamin netanyahu also admitted that israel's efforts to minimize civilian casualties were "not successful". to minimise civilian casualties were "not successful". majdi fathi is a freelance journalist in gaza. she's been working with the bbc�*s yogita limaye on this special report, which contains distressing images from the start. monday in central gaza. tuesday. wednesday. thursday. airstrikes have continued to hit the strip this week, while israel conducts ground operations in the north. hundreds have been killed and injured. some of them from the barghouth family in deir al—balah. "we're being killed and no—one is doing anything
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about it," this man shouts. abid barghouth is still breathing, in critical condition. doctors scramble to treat the boy. on the floor by his bed, they check his father, subhi, for a heartbeat. they can't hear it. his family in shock, still finding out... ..who�*s been rescued, who's survived and who hasn't, from 30 members. this is their youngest — injured, but not seriously. the barghouths had fled to deir al—balah for safety from zeitoun, in the north. to deir al—balah for safety a bit later, subhi's brother ali is taken to identify the bodies. four of the family have been killed. little abid didn't make it.
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"we thought we'd come to a safe place, but no—one is safe in gaza," ali says. abid, subhi, bilal and alla barghouth — four of thousands of gazans killed. "goodbye, my dear," subhi's mother says "you're with god now. you were such a good son." grief is one form of suffering in gaza. this is another. hundreds gather outside one of the few flour mills still running. the manager tries to pacify people. "we haven't eaten for two days," some in the crowd shout. translation: we've escaped death, but now are dying slowly _ because of a severe shortage
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of food, flour and basic needs. we are a family of eight. i burn discarded paper cups to keep my children warm. here, too, they're under the threat of bombardment. at the moment, no aid trucks are going in for gaza's 2.2 million. all but a tiny handful can't get out. yogita limaye, bbc news, jerusalem. that's a situation, just one of the hospitals. i've been speaking with amir avivi, former deputy commander of the israel defense forces gaza division. i started by asking him why israel will only allow two fuel lorries to enter gaza each day. well, you know, we are very concerned with a fuel going to hamas concerned with fuel going to hamas
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to generate all the underground infrastructure they are using. we know that hamas threatens its own society, even kills them, takes everything from them, including the food. we have no real way to really control this in the south. so this is the concern. this is why we are very careful what goes in. we let a lot of food, water, medicine go in. fuel is a huge problem. it serves hamas for war and this is why it's done. but you've made arrangements for two lorries so you could make arrangements for more. you control most of the north. now, if there's a will, there's a way, isn't there? we are not controlling the south and everything. i said the north. well, it's not about the north. we are not talking about the north, we are talking about the south. and this fuel is going to the south and we're not controlling this area. this is why we have a lot of
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concerns about how this humanitarian aid is going on. and also, at the end of the day, i don't understand why egypt is not opening the border and letting people want to go out, go out. this is the only place in the world where you have a humanitarian crisis. you have refugees and they are simply locked in a war zone. it's unprecedented and the world is not doing anything everybody is talking about. but it is israel, it is israel that's locking them in. it was israel that announced right from the start that there would be a siege with nothing let in or out. gaza has a common border with egypt. egypt is locking them. egypt is not letting them go out to the sinai peninsula. and the world is not doing anything about that. anything about that, and nobody is asking the palestinians what they want. and nobody�*s asking the palestinians what they want. they certainly have said that they don't want to be pushed out of gaza into egypt. egypt certainly doesn't want that, but they do not want to be pushed
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out of gaza. here is my assessment. they are going to storm the egyptian border in an uncontrolled way. and they're going out to the sinai peninsula in an uncontrolled way. this happened in the past. it might happen again when israel starts operating in the south because, again, nobody�*s asking them, nobody�*s caring about them. people want them locked in a war zone. this is not a safe environment for anybody. 12 million ukrainians left ukraine because they didn't want to be in a war zone. nobody stopped them and nobody locked the border and prevented them from going out. same in syria, same in nagorno—karabakh. why is this happening in gaza? so you're saying this is nothing to do with israel. let me ask you what is happening at the al—shifa hospital. what we saw, those pictures released by the idf overnight. what's your view on what was actually found? so, actually, just before this interview, i talked with one of the division commander in charge
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of the operation in shifa. when our forces arrived to shifa, they encountered more than 50 terrorists that that shot them. 50 terrorists that shot them. we saw huge amounts of ieds, a lot of munition. and then, going in, we found the in the underneath infrastructure the underneath infrastructure under a car full of explosives inside the hospital in the mri section. and now the idf is studying the underground infrastructure, which takes time. they sent the robot inside, which went 15 metres underground until it encountered a door, a door that blocked the way. and now, really opening all these doors inside and the ideas they put inside and all of that will take time. but we did found the underground infrastructure we have seen. infrastructure, we have seen...
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well, you say that, you say that. but we have seen the pictures and the extent of certainly the arms and what the idf has shown. now, peter lernerfrom the idf said only a couple of days ago that al—shifa may be the quote, beating heart of the whole hamas operation. certainly, from the pictures released so far, it doesn't look like that. well, it does look like that on the ground. and we are finding huge amounts of weapons inside shifa and we encountered thousands of dozens dozens of terrorists defending shifa. now, shifa is a very big... the prime minister himself said there was no firefight at al—shifa. so, in terms of what you're describing... i want to tell you what we are seeing inside. i'm telling you what the prime minister said.
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i'm explaining. i talked to the commander on the ground. we saw many, many weapons thrown on the ground, many vests thrown on the ground. basically what is happening inside shifa is that because we managed to surround it, because we are going in. the terrorists are throwing their equipment in the ground and masquerading. this is what they're doing. former deputy commander of the idf. dr sabri saidam is deputy secretary general of fatah's central committee. he dismissed suggestions that gazans would cross into egypt to escape the fighting. what a load of garbage that is. i can't believe that anyone would have the guts so far, after 41 days of fighting — after 12,000 people losing their lives, 70% of them women and children, still come up with this argument and yetjustify then fight for it, then argue with you. i can't believe it, why not allow people to go back to their places? why not open all channels for aid to come in? israel is refusing to allow petrol — and you asked him about that,
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he said he's fearful of their lack of control, yet a few days ago, they said nobody was taking control of the material going in, no—one was capturing anything in their hands. so, this excuse is nothing but leading towards derailing options for people to exist in gaza and pushing them to the borders, and asking them to break through the borderlines, so egypt would have to endure the mass exodus of palestinians. what a load of garbage. i can't believe... except it has quietly been many people's fears that that perhaps might be the plan by israel, to force gazans out of the gaza strip. when you ho hear it publicly articulated like that, when you hear it publicly articulated like that, even though israel has said after the war, people can go back to their homes — do you fear that perhaps that is what the plan is here?
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absolutely, i think spot—on, you've just said it. israel wants to deprive people of every basic mean of existence, wants to deprive people of any access to clean water and electricity. and now, gaza is almost imitated, there's no telecom whatsoever and now, gaza is almost amputated, there's no telecom whatsoever or internet whatsoever, so you don't know what's happening there. and absolutely, israel would like to exert pressure. when they announced yesterday they were gearing up for the second phase operation, indeed they would like to intensify pressure so they drive people towards egypt. so, when they say that people can go back to their homes so, when they say people can go back to their homes in the north after the war, you don't believe that? this brings me back to 1948 when they said to people, once they were displaced from their villages and towns, that they couldn't go back. now, 75 years down the line, everyone is homeless and has been pushed out to diaspora
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and refugee camps. now, 75 years down the line, everybody is homeless, everybody has been pushed out to diaspora and refugee camps. so, nothing is temporary, as far as israel is concerned, and nothing as credible as far as occupation is concerned. they want to push people out, to annex gaza, and the displacement of people is top of their agenda. soon we will face something different than mass expulsion orforced expulsion — we will have a so—called "humanitarian expulsions" so they bring floating hospitals and people are asked to go with their loved ones to these hospitals, and will never be allowed back. so, i think this is a calculated effort on the part of israel that ought to be combated by the world and intervene to stop such an idiotic idea. let me ask you a separate question, then, in terms of the international community — what in your view should they be doing now? because they've been pushing for a humanitarian pause, israel says of course that the hostages have to be released first. i know that you are not hamas —
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quite the opposite — but would it help the situation, in terms of getting that pause, if hamas were to release the hostages they hold? i really don't want to get into this argument. what i want to say is that any pauses are meaningless now, because it's as if you're saying to people, "you can rest now, but we'll kill you tomorrow. it doesn't work this way what's most important is the cessation of hostilities. plus, there is a twisted side of argument here. israel is saying, "we will not entertain the idea of humanitarian pauses," and the international community is pressing for humanitarian pauses, saying israel has the right to defend itself, then asking the israeli army to be careful with dealing with civilians. i can't believe that either! after 12,000 people —
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and netanyahu saying to the world community that he was not successful, his army was not successful in what he called "taking care of civilians" — the world will still allow him and say to the israelis, "you have to be careful when dealing with civilians." that should not be the case, the international community should be saying to israel, "enough is enough." benjamin netanyahu went on to say that it was hamas�*s fault — i don't want to get trapped in that argument because i've only got time for one more question, which is what is going on in the west bank, because more deaths there, that's where you are. how worried are you of this conflict spilling over? because we've had more deaths in five weeks than we've had in the past nine months. absolutely, i'm super worried. i think israel is pushing things to the brink of yet another collapse — this time, in the west bank. and i think things will escalate, and definitely so that every palestinian believes that israel is not only trying to just displace palestinians from gaza, but to do so in the west bank —
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then annex the west bank and gaza as well. talking to me on today's verified live earlier. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. two 12—year—old boys have been remanded into youth custody after being charged with the murder of a 19—year—old man in wolverhampton. 19—year—old man in wolverhampton who was stabbed on playing fields near a school in east park on monday. the boys — who appeared at birmingham magistrates�* court — cannot be named due to their age. a sheffield wednesday supporter who taunted rival fans by mocking the death of mascot bradley lowery has been given a i2—week suspended prison sentence. dale houghton was seen laughing as he held up an image of the six—year—old at a match against sunderland. the team bradley supported before he died of cancer in 2017. the government says an £8 billion fund will be made available
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to councils in england over the next decade to help tackle potholes. the transport secretary, mark harper, said motorists would immediately see improvements in road conditions. councils, on the other hand, say the cost of repairing local roads is closer to £14 billion. you're live with bbc news. let's go back to the middle east. those images released yesterday. bbc verify has been taking a closer look at videos released by the idf claiming to show a hamas military presence at gaza's biggest hospital, al—shifa. daniele palumbo reports. since taking control of al—shifa hospital earlier this week, the israeli military has been under pressure to provide evidence to support its claim that it was a hamas command and control node. and it has released video evidence to support its case. we want to show you where in the hospital compounds we have found these videos to have been filmed.
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this map shows the hospital premises. and here is the entrance, and this building is the mri unit. yesterday, the idf shared a video claiming to show weapons inside this building. you can see the soldier here point at two bags on the floor — these two bags both contain weapons. we know the location as it was later visited by a bbc team escorted by the idf. the idf published two more videos claiming to show evidence of the hospital being used for military purposes by hamas. let's look at them together. the first video here shows the idf�*s claim to have found the entrance of a hamas tunnel network beneath the hospital. we can see a hole, but without further independent images, we can't say anything about its purposes.
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but we do know it's at the al—shifa hospital, because in the video, we can see and spot the features matching known images of the building, of the hospital. and this place is actually located right here, just behind the intensive care unit building. a second video shared by israeli forces show what they claim to have found in a vehicle parked on hospital premises. so, we can see this video here — and, as soon as the soldiers pass in front of the camera, we can see what has been laid out on the ground. laid out on the ground, and this is guns, grenade launchers and other military equipment. the idf says that all this equipment was found inside this vehicle. we know this video was taken inside the hospital grounds because, further on, the area of the excavated hole is also shown. and again, we can see the same buildings, and we can point this out in the main map of the hospital premises on this point,
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just behind the intensive care unit again. we're hoping to shed a light on these scenes and more widely across gaza — but, with the internet communication currently severely disrupted, this has proved to be very difficult. but we will continue to monitor the situation. good timing, because a news conference has just started. let's listen in. untranslated
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i'm really sorry about that. clearly, that started, but our translation not coming in on that line. we thought it was, but it is not. we'll keep an eye on that. it's interesting because turkey's president has not condemned the hamas attacked. quite the opposite. a very tense meeting between the two with certain parties in germany calling for that meeting to be cancelled. it wasn't, but more on that in a little while. nearly 20,000 ukrainian men have fled to avoid being draughted. ukraine has banned men fighting age, leaving the country unless they have a valid objection.
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crossing the border illegally is the most popular way of escaping the draught. some get caught, but for most of this war, dozens of men have managed to flee this way every day. using freedom of information requests, bbci has established that the most common route out is over the most common route out is over the ukrainian border. in the refugee centre in moldova, we meet this musician who's hoping to go to the us to be reunited with his family. he's arrived from ukraine on foot. translation: i he's arrived from ukraine on foot. translation:— he's arrived from ukraine on foot. translation: i “ust looked at the ma -. translation: i “ust looked at the ma. i translation: i “ust looked at the map. i heard — translation: ijust looked at the map. i heard rumours— translation: ijust looked at the map. i heard rumours about - translation: | just looked at the | map. i heard rumours about where translation: | just looked at the i map. i heard rumours about where to 90, map. i heard rumours about where to go, took risk and it worked out. eric says he has a serious health condition. he wasn't granted medical
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of this white ticket. it looks real. - of this white ticket. it looks real. probably— of this white ticket. it looks real. probably they know somebody in the office. _ probably they know somebody in the office. so _ probably they know somebody in the office, so this is corruption. the bbc shared _ office, so this is corruption. the bbc shared its _ office, so this is corruption. tie: bbc shared its funding with this man. —— findings. translation: we are doing our best to avoid mobilisation, _ translation: we are doing our best to avoid mobilisation, about - translation: we are doing our best to avoid mobilisation, about one - translation: we are doing our best to avoid mobilisation, about one to i to avoid mobilisation, about one to 5%. to avoid mobilisation, about one to 5%~ they— to avoid mobilisation, about one to 5%~ they are — to avoid mobilisation, about one to 5%. they are definitely— to avoid mobilisation, about one to 5%. they are definitely not - to avoid mobilisation, about one to 5%. they are definitely not critical. 5%. they are definitely not critical to the _ 5%. they are definitely not critical to the defence _ 5%. they are definitely not critical to the defence of— 5%. they are definitely not critical to the defence of ukraine. - 5%. they are definitely not critical to the defence of ukraine. ukraine doesnt to the defence of ukraine. ukraine doesn't release _ to the defence of ukraine. ukraine doesn't release official— to the defence of ukraine. ukraine doesn't release official figures - to the defence of ukraine. ukraine doesn't release official figures on. doesn't release official figures on the size of its army, but says it has over 800,000 troops. as this conflict turns into a war of the... ukraine will need all the soldiers it can get. we're going to take a short break. i'm back with more and just a minute. hello again. well, it's been a lovely sunny day
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across the vast majority of the country with blue skies, some wonderful autumn colours at the moment, but our weather won't be looking like this as we head into the weekend, no, because we leave behind this slice of sunshine and we have to look out into the atlantic to this area of cloud. this is an area of low pressure that's going to be bringing us some wet and some windy weather, both on saturday and on sunday, as well. weather, both on saturday the wind is coming in from a south—westerly direction and they will ultimately be bringing in some much milder weather conditions. back to tonight's forecast, first of all, and we've got that rain beginning to arrive, pushing its way steadily north and eastwards with the wind strengthening, particularly into coastal areas of western scotland where, by the end of the night, we will probably see some gusts of around a5—55mph. but is one of those nights where temperatures will be rising through the night across the south—west. by dawn, we're looking at temperatures of around 1a degrees. in terms of the rainfall on saturday, we're all going to get
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and in terms of the rainfall on saturday, we're all going to get some, but it's across south—west england where there are one or two concerns. 15—30 millimetres of rain in the grand scheme of autumn lows — that's not a huge amount, but across this part of the uk, we've already seen well over the november so far, so this extra rain could cause one or two problems with surface water flooding. the rain band does push its way through. a lot of cloud following. then come the showers, with blustery winds everywhere, but particularly so for a time across the western coasts of scotland. it will be a mild day, milder than it was on friday, with temperatures for most between around 12—16 degrees. on into sunday's forecast and low pressure is moving across into northern scotland. not particularly windy here, the strongest winds will be heading into the south—west of england, where we could see some gusts of 40s, maybe even 50s in miles—an—hour. the wettest weather for northern ireland, northern england and north wales, with rain looking like it's going to be quite persistent here. it will be another mild day, temperatures around
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12—14 degrees for most. that area of low pressure starts to slip away into monday. we'll get these north—westerly winds feeding in, so it's going to start to feel a little bit cooler and the rain will tend to turn a bit more showery in nature. then a slightly quieter spell of weather towards the middle part of the week. we then start to see the weather turning colder and, for some, we might start to see some snow showers over the mountains of northern scotland by the end of the week.
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this is bbc news. the headlines: the un is forced to suspend its shipments into gaza. a funeral is held for a 19—year—old soldier taken hostage by hamas. israel says her body was found near al—shifa hospital. in other news, the uk prime minister denies "tinkering" with the rwanda asylum plan after the home secretary he sacked said more radical action is needed to save the scheme. and the award—winning british author as byatt has died at the age of 87. sport now and a full round—up from the bbc sport centre.
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