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you some though they could also refer to other matters besides donald trump's case. if confirmed, this would be his fourth indictment against mrtrump in less than five months. this is a live shot of fulton country court house in georgia where those indictments which are due to be published shortly. the case relates to mr. trump and his allies�* alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election in the state. donald trump faces 78 criminal charges from the three other cases. the former president has already been indicted over allegations of 2020 election interference, hush money paid to a porn star, and for hoarding classified documents. trump has denied any wrongdoing in all of his criminal cases and has repeatedly called the charges politically motivated.
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let's bring in our north america correspondent anthony zurcher. it has been a very long day, the grand jury proceeding going on for hours and things are not over yet at the courthouse. flat over yet at the courthouse. not over yet at the courthouse. not over et over yet at the courthouse. iirrt over yet although we are getting indication that we could have those indictments that you mentioned, ten indictments, we don't know who they are what they cover but they are what they cover but they will be unsealed, publicly released sometime in the next two hours and at that point, the mystery will be over, we will look into it and steve donald trump is invited, or any associates of him, like rudy giuliani, if they are included and what kind of crimes they are charged with. obviously in the investigation was on attempts to influence or
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overturn the results of the 2020 election in georgia but did they use a racketeering law which has a 20 year prison sentence as part of a criminal enterprise that donald trump and his associates could have been involved in or individual crimes they pick out and decide to charge with stop all of these things have been speculated on and subject to a lot of discussion but we will find out definitively here within the next few hours. we've seen a number of witnesses going in and out of the courthouse all day, most of them didn't stop to talk to reporters. the former lieutenant governor did. he said he had been giving evidence for over an hour. can we distil anything from what he said? ., , .,, we distil anything from what he said? ., , ., said? some of the people going in and out. _ said? some of the people going in and out. a — said? some of the people going in and out, a journalist - said? some of the people going in and out, a journalist was - in and out, a journalist was going in to get information, this full selective scheme where donald trump and his
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associates were trying to put a different slate of presidential electors who were going to claim that donald trump one georgia, put forward in order to cast doubt on the results of the election there. we don't know exactly who will testify. there were apparently ten people slated to testify today and tomorrow. all the people said they were to go in tomorrow, disclosing that would be involved, they ended up coming in today including blue tenant governor. it felt like things are being accelerated a bit. when i heard seven of them had gone in, they could be that, thejury decided had gone in, they could be that, the jury decided they'd heard enough and they were ready to vote on this matter. it will be interesting to see who the key witnesses in this case are, however. me who the key witnesses in this case are, however.— who the key witnesses in this case are, however. we can find out a bit more _ case are, however. we can find out a bit more about _ case are, however. we can find out a bit more about how - case are, however. we can findj out a bit more about how grand jury out a bit more about how grand jury �*s work. live now to sarah krissoff, formerfederal prosecutor for the southern district of new york. anthony has been discussing
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their about how quickly things proceeded. we are expecting two days and it sped up into one day. is that something you had experience of as a federal prosecutor yourself, that things move a bit quicker than planned? things move a bit quicker than lanned? . ~ , , planned? frankly in my experience _ planned? frankly in my experience in _ planned? frankly in my experience in a - planned? frankly in my experience in a grand l planned? frankly in my i experience in a grand jury, things move slower than planned so clearly somebody is doing a good job here in the district attorney office but i think the grand jury should have heard what they needed to hear. apparently they were ready to go. it sounds like the reporting coming from the witnesses before the grand jury, very back—and—forth process whether grand jurors were asking questions, they are involved in the presentation of evidence. apparently they heard what they need to hear and are ready to move forward and champing at the bit to do so. the clerk in the courthouse
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there had said that in a worst—case scenario it would take over three hours to process the documents. just what is going on at the moment? you a lot of this is putting those materials and the systems, to the extent that there are indictments, they have to be lodged. i have to be lodged. all of that is a really mechanical process of entering the information in the system, making sure and any supporting documents that need to be filed along with those materials, so it's really an administrative process they want to make sure they get it right. they don't want any of us to do that, they will take their time to make sure all that stuff is filed appropriately. fist sure all that stuff is filed appropriately.— sure all that stuff is filed appropriately. at what point will they inform _ appropriately. at what point will they inform those - appropriately. at what point i will they inform those involved in indictments, be it the former president, any of his
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personal attorneys or anyone else, when will they find out? it's interesting how this is unfolding in the news, real—time updates from the courthouse in the cloak and the judge, everyone involved in the process here. i judge, everyone involved in the process here.— process here. i would expect. they will _ process here. i would expect. they will reach _ process here. i would expect. they will reach out _ process here. i would expect. they will reach out to - process here. i would expect. they will reach out to council| they will reach out to council for the people who are charged. i see most if not all of them already have council and inform them of the charges. they may be very well aware of what's to come. ~ �* ., come. we're looking at live -ictures come. we're looking at live pictures the _ come. we're looking at live pictures the moment - come. we're looking at live pictures the moment from | pictures the moment from inside, from inside the fulton county courthouse, on the clocks department where those dockets are being processed. anthony i suppose that's something it's kind of unusual about this whole process, all of these indictments and
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arraignments. we have seen the inner workings of the american justice system.— justice system. there were cameras — justice system. there were cameras following - justice system. there were cameras following the - justice system. there were | cameras following the cloak justice system. there were - cameras following the cloak as she walked through the courtroom to go to her office and — courtroom to go to her office and type _ courtroom to go to her office and type something up. you could — and type something up. you could see her sitting there through— could see her sitting there through the window typing and she got— through the window typing and she got up and walked down the hallway. — she got up and walked down the hallway, to where the courtroom was and — hallway, to where the courtroom was and handed it to the judge. there _ was and handed it to the judge. there were cameras in the courtroom with the judge sat there — courtroom with the judge sat there. and thanks for the reporters awaiting around, that it was_ reporters awaiting around, that it was a — reporters awaiting around, that it was a meeting they hoped it would — it was a meeting they hoped it would be _ it was a meeting they hoped it would be. and there are going to be — would be. and there are going to be cameras in this trial. that— to be cameras in this trial. that could be different from what — that could be different from what will happen in new york and in — what will happen in new york and in these two federal cases so it_ and in these two federal cases so it could be a very public look — so it could be a very public look at _ so it could be a very public look at a _ so it could be a very public look at a high—profile trial in a way— look at a high—profile trial in a way we _ look at a high—profile trial in a way we haven't had something like this— a way we haven't had something like this before. we a way we haven't had something like this before.— like this before. we can bring ou like this before. we can bring you something _ like this before. we can bring you something from - like this before. we can bring you something from the - like this before. we can bring l you something from the donald trump campaign team were just issued a statement in response to what is happening in georgia and it read, they are taking away president trumpmy first
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amendment right to free speech and challenge a read and stolen election that the democrats do all the time. the ones who should be prosecuted are the ones who created the corruption. that is a position the former president has maintained throughout all of these legal proceedings? this is partisan. — these legal proceedings? this is partisan, and _ these legal proceedings? ti 3 is partisan, and attempt to punish dominant humphreys politics because they don't agree with his politics, calling it a witch—hunt. the prosecutors, bring these charges, parties and actors, not an interest ofjustice. another thing the trump statement has said is the charges were delayed by two years in order to have the most impact on the election. an attempt in their view to prevent donald trump from having a successful bid to win back the white house, but this was time for that. these investigations do take time and had been ongoing and
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particularly for the federal investigation, a lot of that waited for lower—level prosecutions and congress which conducted its own hearings and investigations the justice department moved. sarah, on that issue _ department moved. sarah, on that issue of _ department moved. sarah, on that issue of timing, _ department moved. sarah, on that issue of timing, we had . that issue of timing, we had statements from a number of republican lawmakers today who are calling for a speedy resolution of all of these legal proceedings. is that the correct approach to take? that might be the correct political approach to take that as a defence attorney, i would caution any client against that. , ., that. sometimes there are strategic — that. sometimes there are strategic reasons - that. sometimes there are strategic reasons to - that. sometimes there are strategic reasons to push i that. sometimes there are i strategic reasons to push the case — strategic reasons to push the case forward as a defendant. often — case forward as a defendant. often there are strategic reasons to make the case last a little _ reasons to make the case last a little bit — reasons to make the case last a little bit longer and sometimes you just — little bit longer and sometimes you just need time to adequately prepare for any trial— adequately prepare for any trial in— adequately prepare for any trial in the matter. here, the
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former— trial in the matter. here, the former president is dealing with— former president is dealing with what looks like for criminal indictments, regardless of whether you are the former president or not, it's going _ the former president or not, it's going to be very difficult for his— it's going to be very difficult for his team to really put together a defence for all those _ together a defence for all those matters simultaneously. we should point out the former president has pleaded not guilty to all of the previous charges, and those previous three arraignments. we are waiting the text of those indictments are we're not sure what charges will be brought against him orany what charges will be brought against him or any other individuals in his entourage. looking at live pictures from outside fulton county courthouse in atlanta and there is a heavy security presence there. the former george lou tennant governorjeff duncan said in all his time working there in the nearby capitol building, he's never seen such a presence. it says they about
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what's at stake. he put tweets or posts telling witnesses not to testify before this grand jury. to testify before this grand 'u . ~ . to testify before this grand jury. we have a new york indictment _ jury. we have a new york indictment was _ jury. we have a new york indictment was calling - jury. we have a new york indictment was calling for jury. we have a new york- indictment was calling for his supporters to get out and protest and to object what he views as a miscarriage of justice. tensions are high although in the past three indictments, three indictments under the belt. the peers, the talk of massive protests and unrest in the streets, those have never panned out stop is definitely an abundance of caution in georgia and atlanta and they don't want to be caught flat—footed in case something happens because if you look at what happened on january six, part of the problem with the attack on the capital, law enforcement was not prepared for the scope of what happened. anyone at this pointjust what happened. anyone at this point just wants to what happened. anyone at this pointjust wants to be caught not in that kind of mistake again so you see georgia is
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doing everything they can to make sure everyone there is safe and there have been threats against individuals, prosecutors, election workers after the 2020 election. witnesses as well. that give pause to big particularly careful. w . careful. sarah, when might we see the arraignment _ careful. sarah, when might we see the arraignment taking - see the arraignment taking place once we get the text of these indictments? i place once we get the text of these indictments?— these indictments? i think that's a few _ these indictments? i think that's a few days - these indictments? i think that's a few days down - these indictments? i thinkj that's a few days down the road _ that's a few days down the road it's_ that's a few days down the road. it's hard to imagine anyone _ road. it's hard to imagine anyone can physically get themselves to the courthouse tomorrow. i would expect over the week, _ tomorrow. i would expect over the week, those arraignments will he — the week, those arraignments will be scheduled in an orderly fashion — will be scheduled in an orderly fashion. we expect we're going to multiple individuals charged. those arrangements could — charged. those arrangements could proceed together or separately. but over the course of this — separately. but over the course of this week.—
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of this week. the situation here in georgia _ of this week. the situation here in georgia is - of this week. the situation here in georgia is a - of this week. the situation here in georgia is a bit - here in georgia is a bit different to those indictments. this is at a state level. what difference will it make. we've seen some of that today. we have more insight into the process because the state court is allowing reporters in. allowing their officials to speak _ allowing their officials to speak to reporters throughout the process, sol speak to reporters throughout the process, so i think we're going — the process, so i think we're going to _ the process, so i think we're going to have a window into what — going to have a window into what happens on this minute by minute — what happens on this minute by minute basis that we really do don't — minute basis that we really do don't have federal proceedings. there _ don't have federal proceedings. there has— don't have federal proceedings. there has been some suggestion that the — there has been some suggestion that the prosecutor here is perhaps _ that the prosecutor here is perhaps going to use the anti— racketeering act and anti—corruption active. racketeering act and anti-corruption active. what would that _ anti-corruption active. what would that mean _ anti-corruption active. what would that mean for- anti-corruption active. what would that mean for the - anti-corruption active. what. would that mean for the former president? this
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would that mean for the former president?— president? as i understand it, the georgia — president? as i understand it, the georgia racketeering - the georgia racketeering statute is even broader than the federal statute. really trying _ the federal statute. really trying to bring together lots of disparate crimes, predicate crimes, — of disparate crimes, predicate crimes, they call them, to tie them — crimes, they call them, to tie them together into a narrative. the former president would face pretty— the former president would face pretty steep penalties under the statute so it is a way to tell— the statute so it is a way to tell a — the statute so it is a way to tell a story i think that will be pretty compelling to the jury~ — and that is a point. we have seen the former president unfazed to so far by former indictments, if he is emboldened.- indictments, if he is emboldened. . , indictments, if he is emboldened. ., , emboldened. he has fund raised of them and _ emboldened. he has fund raised of them and if _ emboldened. he has fund raised of them and if you _ emboldened. he has fund raised of them and if you look - emboldened. he has fund raised of them and if you look at - emboldened. he has fund raised of them and if you look at the i of them and if you look at the fundraising over the course of this year, there is definitely a spy' this year, there is definitely a spy, at least in the early indictments when they came through. if you look at his pulse standings, his pulse standings after the indictments, he expanded his lead over the second—place
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candidate, florida governor ron desantis, whether that dynamic desa ntis, whether that dynamic would desantis, whether that dynamic would have happened anyway or if it happened because of the indictments, d certainly did not hurt his approval among republican voters and they are rallying around the candidate because they view him as being embattled and faced off against by his enemies and this was an attempt, the weight donald trump described it, an attempt to prevent him from running a successful presidential campaign and they are pushing against that. after three indictments we have enough data points at this point to say that in fourth indictment is not going to cause any damage to his presidential ambitions, at least to win the republican nomination although if he wins a nomination and he is going to trial while he is trying to campaign for president against joe biden or the democrats, it may be an entirely different story. fix. may be an entirely different sto . �* ., ., may be an entirely different sto .�* ., ., story. a long and possibly twisty road _ story. a long and possibly twisty road from - story. a long and possibly twisty road from here - story. a long and possibly| twisty road from here until next november. thank you both
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forjoining me. around the world and across the uk, let's have a look now at some of the news. for the first time in us history three branches of the armed forces don't have a senate confirmed leader. the navy, army and marine corps are without because a republican senator continues to block military nominations over abortion rights. senator tommy tuberville of alabama says the pentagon is using government funds improperly by paying the travel costs for service members who want to terminate a pregnancy. a hospital official in ethiopia's amhara region says at least 26 were killed in a suspected air strike on sunday. it follows reports an ethiopian army drone attacked protesters in the town of finote selam, killing 70 civilians. the state—appointed ethiopian human rights commission says it's received credible reports of strikes and shelling in the town. japan is bracing for an incoming typhoon expected to make landfall in southern part of honshu island on tuesday.
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the national weather agency says typhoon lan is expected to bring heavy rain and strong winds of up to 180 kilometres per hour. you're live with bbc news. turning to the other breaking story and malware. —— in maui. officials have now confirmed the death toll from wildfires which severely impacted the hawaiian island of maui has risen to 99. they held a press conference a short time ago, describing the destruction from the fires as �*incredible', which the govenor says has �*broken our hearts a little bit more'. the wildfires all but destroyed the town of lahaina — only about 20% of it has been searched for victims. officials warning that could take at least ten more days. almost one week on from this disaster — more than 1000 people are still unaccounted for. hawaii's govenorjosh green spoke at the official press c0 nfe re nce .
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asi as i shared earlier, the scale of destruction is incredible so our hearts are broken little more than when we were together 48 hours ago with the list of fatalities. we are well over 2200 structures that have been destroyed, 86% of them were residential. the disaster relief is here. you saw fema and small business association, you have seen the outpouring of support but what i can tell you is this. it will take time. it will take a lot of time. as they go through all of the territories in lahaina they have to be very careful, very careful not to disrupt any of the homes there so for those people who have walked into lahaina because they really wanted to see, know that they are very likely walking, as the chief of police said the other day. that is why we are being
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so careful. that was the governor of hawaii at a press conference a short time ago. let's go live to maui and our reporter helen humphrey who was inside the room the press conference. helena, can you recap for us what the various authorities said? the message, as you heard there from josh green, the death toll now officially stands at 99 people. saying that our hearts are a little more broken with every confirmation of a fatality. we also heard from the police chief saying that as of tomorrow those names of the deceased will start to be made public. they will be released. he now says according to the police chief that 25% of that area has been combed. yesterday we heard estimates that it was around 5%. so they say that they are getting more assistance on the ground. aid from fema coming in with resources and that helps in those efforts but the mayor also said in responding to questions about when residents
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will be allowed back in, he says that is after phase zero is completed. that is where they are today. still at phaser zero which essentially means when the whole area has been combed. it seems like it is a way off at the moment and we also heard once again a powerful moment from the police chief when he said when you take off your clothes and they are covered in ash, that is our loved ones. employing people not to go into the area without authorisation. i thinkjust highlighting how precarious the situation still remains there in lahaina. we also had some comments from hawaii electric. away electric is the focus of a class action lawsuit alleging that they did not shut down the power grid quick enough when they had notable warnings from they had notable warnings from the national weather service as of yet we did not hear any mention in regard to that class—action lawsuit in that particular press conference instead the comments were saying from the company that
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they are continuing to try and help to get power back online here. previously they have said that, essentially, they do not have a proforma automatic shutdown of the power grid and the concern here was that this may have been, could have been one of the things that exacerbated these lasers further. i should also tell you that while we have come out from the press conference there are a number of protesters who have also beenjoining. they've been holding up placards, one placard read why no sirens? another said we want the truth. clearly there is some anger and frustration there from protesters joining frustration there from protestersjoining outside frustration there from protesters joining outside this press conference. protestersjoining outside this press conference.— protestersjoining outside this press conference. helena, the governor _ press conference. helena, the governor made _ press conference. helena, the governor made an _ press conference. helena, the governor made an interesting| governor made an interesting point, of course, regarding how he has changed various rules relating to healthcare on the island to help authorities they deal with the crisis. extra healthcare workers come to the islands receiving licenses also the need for extra mental healthcare professionals. it
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was a really important point that he made there saying that they were going to be deploying hundreds of mental health workers onto the island to deal with the needs and that is certainly something we have seen come up time and time again. at the moment it has been done in a relatively, informal way that every shelter you go to see a sign saying mental healthcare, often it is the case of people sitting and listening to people telling their stories of escape, of survival, other people we spoke to say it is a case of hugs and tears and trying to convert people. but i think the recognition here is that with everything people have gone through to recover from this long—term trauma and the kinds of things that people have been expressing, a pillar of this healthcare response will also be helping to recover from the invisible scars as well, the mental health needs and that is something that the governor also stated. he also spoke, i want to mention, about the housing system. you said our
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b&b housing system. you said our b8b committed to moo units housing system. you said our b8b committed to m00 units and b&b committed to m00 units and he also said that authorities have signed a contract with the red cross to provide housing and shelter. they say for up to 36 weeks at a time and they say the money for that will be coming through grants from fema and all these things are just so vital in terms of helping people to recover a semblance of their lives after having lost everything.— of their lives after having lost everything. helena, there have been _ lost everything. helena, there have been discussions - lost everything. helena, there have been discussions over i lost everything. helena, there l have been discussions over the past few days about the geographic isolation of maui, of hawaii and the challenges that provides for those dealing with the emergency management. at the police chief there saying this evening that we have the right amount of workers and the right amount of teams but, nevertheless, still a huge area to be covered. absolutely. at the first press conference when we first arrived here the comment from authorities was that we always knew that hawaii, obviously, is
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remote and that is what makes it so special. people also recognised that they said help was 72 hours away. i think it is fair to say that we did not see volunteers flying in before we saw authorities and agency officials arriving and that have been part of the frustration, i think, from locals here. increasingly, according to those comments are leased from the police chief they now say that they have what they need. particularly in terms of things such as cadaver sniffer dogs which adjust, unfortunately, so vital in combing through this rubble. trying to find remains and then identify them as well. we also heard from the mayor there saying please go to the family assistance centre if you are missing a loved one, notjust to give information butjust to carry out dna swabs so that once we find people we can identify them.— once we find people we can identify them. thank you for that. as we _ identify them. thank you for that. as we have _ identify them. thank you for that. as we have just - identify them. thank you for that. as we have just been l that. as we have just been discussing we had two major
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stories happen, the first officials can form that may come from the death toll in hawaii to 99 people and in the us state of georgia the county klerk took a thick stack of documents to the cloaks offers three floors below. she would not comment on the comment that may contents other than to tell reporters that they included ten indictments but they could refer to matters other than that of president trump. if confirmed it would be his fourth indictment in less than five months. thank you for watching. stay with us here on bbc news. hello there. there were certainly winners and losers with monday's weather. morning cloud gradually broke up and infact, newquay, cornwall, it was warm enough to venture out to the beach into the afternoon. it was a different story across parts of north wales and northern england. in fact, we saw over two inches of rain, 60 millimetres of rain in some places and it was a pretty dismal day. now that low pressure is gradually drifting its way eastwards off into the north sea,
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allowing this ridge of high pressure to build. so a much quieter start to the story for tuesday. there will be some sunny spells as we go through the day. a few scattered showers will tend to develop particularly heavy ones across parts of southern scotland and north—east england, maybe with the odd rumble of thunder. but certainly with more sunshine and lighter winds, it will feel a little warmer. top temperatures possibly as high as 2a degrees, 75 fahrenheit. now, as we go through tuesday evening, we'll continue to see some clearing skies, some patchy mist and fog will form. some of it dense in places and quite stubborn to lift away. it will be a relatively mild start to wednesday morning, with temperatures widely into the low to mid—teens. high pressure is going to build as we go through the day on wednesday. so once we've got rid of those misty, murky conditions, first thing in the morning, a few scattered showers perhaps across scotland and northeast england, but on the whole, dry, settled and sunny foremost and a little warmer as well. we could see temperatures
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peaking at 25 celsius. that's 77 fahrenheit. warmer still as we go into thursday, a lot of dry, settled, sunny weather once again across england and wales. some patchy coastal mist and murk may be lingering in the far south—west, but temperatures could peak once again widely into the mid 20s. maybe one or two spots in the south—east could see temperatures into the high 20s. and that's because we're going to continue to tap into some warmth that's coming up from the near continent, not the extreme heat that they have been seeing, but certainly as we head towards friday, we'll see an increasing spell of heat and humidity. but at the same time, it comes with a caveat as this weather front pushes in from the west on friday, it could trigger off some sharp and thundery downpours as it continues to track its way steadily east.
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