the hours and the last time that they had a gps signal from the, the, the, the, the crash had to go up. there was close to the stone going. cooper mind, there has been a brief conversation between someone seemed to had to go up there and the drama that the friday of prayer of the city of tempe, eas. but due to the sporadic connection due to the, the bad reef connection, they could not have a proper conversation and says them that has not been any communication between the had a carpenter and the rest of the teams or any other running alternatives here. so as if not, we do not know which kind of conditions now the president or iran, the pride, the for the minister and the look of governor or positive age on which one of them were. one of them were on the same, had to go up that we do not know about the situation whether they are injured or even they have some more serious conditions. there. however,

here also we, we know that in case of the death of the president in 50 days, the company needs to go to an election and during that period twice president, the 1st weiss president is going to replace him. this russell set up the with all the very latest for us on this breaking news story reporting from tara on for us. thank you very much for so well. if you are just joining us here on al jazeera, we will begin this ally. it is now just going $1500.00 g n t without special ongoing coverage of breaking news out of a run, the helicopter, caring iranian present. abraham ryan, you see i'm the foreign minister has gone missing in bad weather conditions in the north of the country. let's show you that it happens near the city of debris as you see at the, in northern, around near the border with as a by john. now ron says that rest of your teams have reached the area around the crash site,

but they have not yet found the helicopter as we were hearing that from our correspondent. now present, right? you see head reports and beat finished, and olga raising them, and he's also met the as a buyer's on the president before then heading back to to breeze. well, this is what runs interior minister and then for he told state television after the opening of the called the fighting them and the kids can see them in the presence of the president on the return journey, the president and others accompanying him by coming back in several helicopters, one of the helicopters was forced to make a rough landing due to bad weather conditions and fog in the area. now, various rescue teams are moving in different directions in the area. but in view of the fog and the bad weather conditions, it will take time to get to the location of the helicopter. things are under control and rescue teams of doing that work. we hope it will be done as soon as possible, as well. that's not bring in the panel that i have with me here in our studio and or how if monday was wary, he's a professor of contemporary, middle east politics, a castle university. and we also have out of america to that james space. thank you

gentlemen, for staying with us here on tuesday or as we cover this. i'm going to, i'm gonna start with you because you've obviously covered around a huge amount. and i want to understand and health of you as understand the area where this incident has taken place. it's obviously incredibly mountainous and incredibly difficult to search. this isn't under the bridge on to the eastern weatherbug, john, which is well known as the mountains uh, you know, and, and as with coupons by trees and basically people they know it's, it has a tough weather normally and people to avoid. that's all, but it's even, um, an anonymous situations. what's his, what's his non also it is. oh, it's a very high area. it's a lot of mountains and basically that as i looked at for, for the magic, i type in myself on this area in 2000 and the bus, you know, close the was was, you know, slow and he was walking on the road because of ro, width and other things, so i think uh the, the, the, the landscape is, is,

is really difficult. and also considering the weather itself, it's well known that's in the last 24 hours. and the both cost was not really, but as it should be, i was seeing pictures of this fall, this incredibly intense fall that, that set to invest your teams and now waving their way through. i think i, i, i think using that i made the statement just in, in previous interview with like, using the hook up to maybe one of these. and they go to the hook up to is actually that all just too long and to maintain the security of the president. because because i was listening to james when he was telling the story about using the hook up to us. i think it came into my mind came to my mind that by one of these and made them use the had a cup that is actually the way the road the from a zone inside the place and to the, to please a airport is around 160 of them into the i think maybe the social security cities and they went to the had a cup to use to bring the president of the aircraft. so all of this together

because i lots of questions about the situation and also curious not appropriate magic to the uh, teams who are working on the ground now to find out what happens actually for the president and the states, just mazda of the thank you very much gentlemen do stay with me without ongoing coverage. i just want to go back child corresponded results so that he joins me again now from tara on with the very latest for so i know you've been giving us updates as and when we've been getting information. obviously it's fairly sent on the ground. so where are we at right now with search and rescue? we would just hearing that from logic obviously, and incredibly difficult terrain. incredibly difficult weather conditions. all we're hearing anything more to official channels. indeed. so sir, distribution is, is quite serious and you can understand from the language that's being used by the reading institutions, from the official statements that are coming from the writing authorities. you can understand that distribution is quite serious because that that had

a carpenter that was carrying the head of the government in the come through the president off to come to you. but i embrace it. the top diplomat, the for the minister to saying ended up to lie young and the local governor of these as a big jump, proven so if the country that had to go up there has crashed in a cooper mines, which is called so boone, that takes place in between jo 5 and the weather got west, they've gotten into the towns and it is roughly between 70 to 100 kilometers away from the city of tempe. is one of the largest cities in iran taking place in the north, a part of the country. and will say it was the city that's where the president and his team were having a tobar. so as of now, the iranian ref crescent is saying that's more than 40 teams. separate of teams had been deployed to the area and there on the teaching the frantic rescue

a force. however, they said that due to the harsh weather conditions that not able to conduct the aerial rescue operations, rather these are the ground rescue operations. so because the helicopters or any other area vehicle cannot operate in these harsh weather conditions. and also they have said that these teams since this for 3 hours, they have been in the area, but they have not been able to have to, to reach to the how the cost of to the crashed had to go up there. and they said the last time that they had a gps signal from the had to go up. there was shortly before the crash that someone on the had to go up. there has contacted the friday. the prayer of the city of tempe is about to due to this, what are the connection due to the weak connection stick with not had a proper uh that the proper conversation shortly after that had to go up there. has it just cuz it has. uh, it has crashed over in the, in the uh, corporate mind,

which is called some boons. so one of the issue is, is, is, is there with broken, i bought the education industry or iran, which right off the, the, as long as the revolution in 1979 came on the had the sanctions from the western world lied to by the usa. so that you run an embryo by the education industry is quite an old, outdated one. the equipment that they use, the average of vehicles had a comp those at the passenger planes that they use are quite outdated. and due to the sanctions, the regulatory, these are not able to replace them with an update. this stuff is dictated the technologies or i will need a, a pause. that's why in the run speak with the order here that the reports of the crashes, the when never there is every 4th of the crash that the crash. so you need to take it quite serious on these crashes because usually very, very badly in the last. in the last couple of decades, we have seen dozens and dozens of such crashes,

which cost was cost times of the v. i. p lives in, in iran, and also now the m, p is the, the, the ministers and the, the, the, the, the widespread is, is off off the presidency. but i embrace the there now, heading to the city of tempe is to join and also to coordinate the rescue a force this we do not have any uh, any sort of information about the president and the for the ministers house. as of now, we do not know whether they are injured or maybe having a serious, even more serious condition as of now, because they have ask you teams cannot reach to the had a corporate and they say that it is a mountainous area. it's data for us, it's for the and it has a range of these factors combined are really hammered in the rescue source box across the you run is several cities. but particularly in the set you have chrome, which is this. this is a central segment of a city, off of the country and in the city or from a shed, which is the largest the really just said the city is really just center in iran

and also it is the city where present the but i embrace is from now they are conducting the prayer settlement as masses are, are joining that and to sort of these are calling one nation to, to play for this house off those what, who are in that highly quarter. so what does that tell us? it tell us distribution is really, really serious. otherwise that was sort of, these will not try to mobilize the whole nation here. so according to the constitution, they ran in the constitution, in case of a sudden that of the president how the process would work. so the cost efficiency is that the 1st wise president who's now met my bill is going to get there is going to take the jobs being charged by the approval of the supreme leader. just also a reminder, according to the uranium politic a higher to the title of the state that the supreme leader of the company and the president is close to the head of the government,

the 2nd in command. and so when the 2nd in command is that having the southern depth dental 1st west president, which is correct cruise, currently mohammed must be a, is going to take place is going to be in charge. and in 50 days, the company needs to go to an election to elect the new president. ibrahim pregnancy is quite a unique speaker in this country. so, and she's very early stages. she started to be a judge, and she is also the son of low off of who the, who's a powerful senior. this is the friday about the, the mom of the friday, the premier in the, in the city or from a shed and see. and he's father, the low have been very much close to the supreme leader. are these come on a previous leads to the lead off the revolution? no doubt who wrote, i have to law who may need and has seen that she has climbed, that the carrier lever quite quickly. and the v. c has being the chief judge or

stand around later. she was the head of the judiciary, the whole judiciary in iran, couple of years before being the president. and the city of mishap, as i said now, which is the center of this pray of ceremonies for his house, is quite important because it is that the city that's towards the tomb of the a mom called him to the 12 or she a public up to you want to do all of this in moms vegas are extremely important and only a moms among lives. 12 of that is liam in iran. that is being hosted in the around is in the city off uh, off of my shop, a members of the 8 a month and president. but i embrace see, was the custodian off that foundation just 3 years before being the president of the country. as i said, for now the situation is quite dire is a serious. that's why do it toward these are quoting on nations to come up down to

hold the pay in ceremonies here. but as of now, we do not have any certain solely, it's concerning information about their health. and now it is the evening time. it's getting darker and we are going into the night. so on one hand, the harsh weather conditions, on the other hand, this darkness and the, the, the, the, the to rain also is very much a tough one month. and this one. now the sort of these are saying that they are really having a challenging task ahead of them. they are not able to conduct the aerial rescue of patients. only it has to be on the ground for the teams are now on the fit. your frantic are forced to reach to the highly corpse there, but since the correct, so if the had a cluster that has not been and the communication between president his team and anyone on the grounds, russell sat at the correspondence on the ground for us entire on laying out the situation as it currently stands would obviously bring you any updates as soon as

we get it here on tuesday or from now, we'll leave it there with russell. let's go back to our panel and bringing out different medic entered at james phase. james, obviously this has been very closely watched in for an capitals across the globe, an incredibly sensitive time for the region, but given the amount of questions that are still being posed and still standing. lots of people looking for right now. this a key bit of information and that is the health of the writing and president, whether the writing president has survived this crashing. what condition is he in bath also applies to the foreign minister. no one really wants to say anything i do have here a statement from the state department. i will read it out, but you're not going to learn and the thing. we are closely following reports of a possible hard landing of a helicopter in the wrong turning the writing president for a minister. we have no further comment at this time. that's all i think is exactly what a pretty foreign ministry and intelligent service is in the region and beyond in world capitals. they all looking for information. they,

we using their own sources of information, maybe some sort of signals, intelligence and satellites intelligence, but mainly doing what we're doing, which is scouring the arabian sources and waiting for a rainy and media all the rain in a couple months through its official channels to give us some information and it may well be as we're hearing from russell, but they don't have the information yet. they have not got to that heavy cop to. they know where it is but they can't get to it because of the circumstances and the weather conditions. so we may well be wasting some, some more time until we find out the fate of these 2. in effect, i would say in the power chain in around number 2 and number 3, most popular people in the country. indeed, and as a result of saying, nights is rolling, so that makes is even even more difficult lunch. i wanted to come to you to, to pick up on something the result was talking about and that's the rollover. i see within iran and how he exists within the country. his imagination, we've seen huge crowds come out to suppress and massaged his hometown. and then

also include where he went to seminary. i understand how, how do radians, think of him. i think this pull up on what james was say the above, i mean the sunsets and deputies about half an hour. yeah. which will add more challenge to the teams on the ground. and i think that that is appropriate with technology as well used on these issues and, and on with considering the sanctions imposed that you know, i think, you know, when he was when he was one, as the president, i think there was a lot of acceptance within measure to be around is because of his character as being i would say he was, he was known as a conservatively the how about he was a non also i looked communicated with the audience and he was talking to sold a lot of problems. the was suffering from, um, uh, of course, you know, he's, he's also a little just figured and when you talk about the, just because you talk about someone who are the photos,

i don't think people are basically, uh, looking at his religious uh, you know, guidance as well, so all of this to his, i would say, presidents within date already and politics ended on the internet and a society and also uh, you know, being close to, uh, you know, the supreme leader being close to the religious circle including houses and mesh shut down for men and also being close to the political elite, which is basically not this is that is from the just, that's itself also has made him an important figure within a year in politics. and that's as a brought him as, as a, when a candidate to be a, to the place the supreme lead us out the 2nd to be such a successor of the supreme leader in case of, uh, becoming a possible. so basically all of this together has made that i use is an important politician within the, within the last 20 years. and i think altura has several honey, he is

a heavy weight of politician with the politics he suddenly james regarded it as much more hotline than with connie by the west. how is, how is he thought about now, often having been in tell us of it for this amount of time. he is a very pragmatic man, as i understand it and, and especially in dealings with with neighbors as we've seen with, with, as a vice on today. and they had tensions, but he is jointly and will raising a dime they have all the joint projects, how his, his foreign policy reflected his, his view of the well. but i think it depends who you're talking to. so, so with that, i think the americans was not happy that he became the president. i'm is interesting speaking a few months ago to a senior, a diplomat from another powerful country. i won't say any more than that. who said that they felt the, that the by didn't ministration made a real mistake and not very, very foster but stopped by just trying to do a new cleared deal with through honey and not delaying it. they took a long,

long time. the same person said they will so from the little math kind of stone policy at the same time, it just if they've gone quick wrap the gates with those 2 things, they could have had 2 very different outcomes on, on 2 files. yes. and i e t t is a certainly c as a, not someone, but they can talk to in the same way as we saw with the rom nuclear deal in the j. c. uh, j c, p. away and obviously things now so sensitive since october, the 7th, and particularly up just over a month ago, went twice in a week or so. we had the 2 countries, israel and the wrong, effectively a wall with each other. april 13th on the 14th you had about multiple miss solve and trying to attack about iran on and israel and then april 19th. israel's response there were people really, really concerned that the region was going to spiral into some,

some awful situation. they managed, i think, to calibrate the situation on both sides and feel that but that enough was enough and they both backed down at that point. but somebody like this in, in the region where that was all with conspiracy theories. the idea that perhaps, and we've got no proof of this whatsoever, but they could have been sabotaged even the idea that if it was these heavy sanctions on the wrong that hadn't been for so many years, iran would have much better spare parts for it, for it's for as a vision of it runs aviation industries horrendous records, and that's in part due to the fact they couldn't get the equipment. they need to service that price monthly. but i wanted to bring you in hand because you were also talking about the sanctions alley and it's something we've had repeatedly today. the lack of components to keep planes and helicopters a few. and i was speaking earlier, and you were speculating that perhaps helicopters are considered more safe and around the larger plane. we were talking about this in the context because they use them for me because of reasons one day of tech patients and,

and they use them even and put on the alex. but um, i think in the case with where they use it today, i think of the, the, the, the distance between the jo find to be, is, is around 106 killer message. and i think i, i would, i would assume that because of security reasons, they decided not to use. uh, the costs um, because uh maybe they, well i'm not worried about the safety of the president, the team. and they use the uh, had a cup test, but again, you know, the, the stipulation, i think, what, what do you mean and how much those 3 had a cup total waste safe enough to you to be used uh, by the president his and his deep and i assume that is the security team who's, who's basically evaluating the, the cause, the helicopters,

everything. i think maybe the, the, the conclusion was those good enough to take him and his team from joe to try to, to please, but not necessarily using them in each incident. i wanted to come back to some of the protocol issues that you just raised that in terms of transporting the president and other people, important people at the foreign minister. but james, just going back to, to the sanctions that we've been discussing. just how damaging have they been a vision safety in iran because this is not the fast crash that we've seen that's is either taking the life of or injured and obviously we don't know what's happened here, but this is certainly not the fest crash that we've seen in recent years involving a very senior official when i looked at some figures. and of course that being sanctions in some form or of the against the wrong since the revolution in 1979. these are quite stunning figures. nearly 2000, a radiance of last that lives in playing crashes since 1979 and the accidents

involving a rating unit. alonzo, i have about 4040 a period, resulted in 1755 casualties. so, i mean, it shows, i think that ation in iran is not particularly safe. and part of that clearly is the fact that they cannot get the pots and the croft and the equipment that other countries would just why they can't do it. they're not allowed to and presumably this also affects search and rescue. you mentioned that very briefly, i imagine they're all 5 different reports, 14 or 16 teams out right now in, in the, the rain and the folks looking for this, this site. and they buy one account and still haven't found it yet that we know of what's the capacity is around at the moment to be able to carry out a search and rescue operation. like, according to it, you know, there was also this book about crispin stories about what they have done. and the code on that they were, they were able to capitalize on their own forces to talk who put on but,

and also they were able to sit in some teams i think, to, to, to either come to us. but i think looking at the situation now, what does it, what is really important now is to find out the closest location expected that you know, uh, the attic that had a cup to, you know, lines that all crushed it. that is an important issue. if that as much is if, if they failed to do so, all of those 60 or 40 team, they would be basically looking at, you know, a very difficult a scenarios. i think the issue is the issue of communication because what's, what appeared is now they are, they don't know exactly the last point that the communication between the helicopter and, and other of the case or maybe the, the issue in teams and around the place. so that is also another challenge to them, even with all of those, you know, teams on the ground. if they don't locate that, then it goes to the place i think, to take some time to find out what happens. what's happened, but not james, thank you. i'm going to go back very briefly now to talk correspondent results that

he joins me again from the rainy and capital. tyrone russell, i know that everyone searching for, for whatever information is facing around out the have we had anything further in the last half hour from iran, you know, storage. he's about how search and rescue is going. i also know that you mentioned that the vice president is on his way to, to breeze. should we be reading anything into the, the well, the, the dig around in the red crescent is now saying that one of the teams among the, for the teams that have been deployed to the, to the area is now approaching to the exact location of where the headed cops are crashed and they're saying that soon they, they, they call up that they will have reach to the, to the, to the support and to the how they cope there as well. so of course we do not know what does that word soon mean, because we know that it is

a tough time to rain and weather conditions are extremely harsh over that. but the uranium crescent is saying that one of the teams is now approaching them, getting closer and closer to the how to go up there. and once they reach their property, we are going to have a kind of more pool per solid information about the house. and the safety of presidents or iran, the fort administer, and also the local governor of is probably as of positive age or so what you know, so far as is, is that that has been to the how do you crafters taken off from the reading those that'd be the journey, the board there where the president of iran and presidential advisor be, john were negligent him, a them, and that he had to go up stairs, heading toward the city of tempe, is in the north and part of the country, which is one of the largest city as well, and to or if that headquarters, the land to safely bought the helicopter that was carrying out of the government's

presence. if you're wrong, if i embrace see and that you run these top, diplomats and if you're seeing, i mean up to my yeah. and the for the minister and also the local government off is present so far as that'd be john. it has crashed in that location where he is, which is in between jo fi um, where does the gun towns which are roughly a between 70 to one how the kid on it. there's a way from deputies where our president and his team were heading to work and also the, the location, the closest location that they can detect where they had to go up there just crashed is, is, is a, is a corporate mines which is called as soon go and then they said this was the last time that they had a gps sized signal. and after that they lost the signal from the that that had a cup there that was carrying president and she's team. but they said that briefly, shortly before the crash, that has been a communication, a call,

a phone call between someone in the had to go up there. and the, the, the, the, the, the report at least the friday. it might the pay off the city, off temporaries, but the said that the communication was quite weak, it was sporadic, they could not have a proper communication understanding what the distribution and what was happening in, in, in the how do we had a carpenter as well. so as of now we do not know whether that accept or crash due to the technical reasons, technical problems or whether it was because of the harsh weather conditions. but the running of red crossman be saying that. so the location that they had to go up there has crashed, is mountainous. it's a rainy, this is for the, the terrain is very much difficult. and also now as the knots fools. so it is that it's good getting darker and darker and all of this factors combined, they say, are really hammered and they rescue a force, but they say they confirmed that's more than 40 teams now on the ground looking for

the presence headquarter staff, trying to, to to arrive to have access to them and possibly to rescue them. but also they're not doing that due to the heart that does it a tough weather conditions. they're not able to conduct the area arrest your patients. so the none of the aerial vehicle is now as of now involved in these investigator force the only way that they are contact in distress. gas was off the ground, the rest of the air force a for the teams are approaching to the location, but particularly one of them. they say it's very much close to the, had a carpenter and they will have access to the headquarters. they will arrive to the support soon, but as i said, we did not know what those words what that would soon means and also the with, just to give that background to the, in the morning present of iran depending. but i see has math, the presence of as that of age on to integrate at them as it alongside,

alongside this said that the board though, if you run out, that'd be joining the last 3 years to the relations between these 2 companies. got quite times for us to get off the board and they're going to cut about that. see, and they have contacted several to mid 3. 3 is that cost is borderline. to show the muscles to each other last year. positive. be john embassy came on to that tech into ron, and no big grab on this on this opportunity to somehow diffuse attention. and today they have sent out a very bored messages of the company corporation. good neighborly relations. that's one of right off that, that's what president, right up to the president, the base seat and his team took off. i mean, they got on a had to go up there, the 2 costs and were heading toward this. the city of tempe is 100 kilometers away from the city of tempe is she's, he's had a cough to adjust the crash. and the other hand, now the west presidents, the empties and several other ministers are on the way to the city of tempe, is to attempt to investigate force and also to coordinate it. but the around,

you know, to order to use or officials are recording on nation for the prayers in the city of coon, which is one of importance of religious center, the center of the seminary in iran. and also the city of mesh and web presence, library seals is wrong. they have now contact into prayer ceremonies. and this tells us that's how the situation is difficult. because if it was not that much serious, that wouldn't be a cool on donation the russell sorta there was a very latest update for us on this from the uranium capital will be more as we get it from her. so from out, thank you. well, if you want, just joining us here on alger 0, the time has gone just past 15, that t j n t. and we continue with our breaking news, special kind of coverage out of the run the helicopter. as you've been hearing about caring uranium present. abraham, right, i see i'm the foreign minister has gone missing in bad weather conditions in the north of the country as it was saying, it happened near the city of to breeze. that's in northern iran. you see on the map

the near the border was as a by john. now ron says rescue teams on the way to the crash site. we have no update on whether or not they've actually reached it. right. you see, it had reported the finished and organizing of them and he also met the, as a by johnny president before heading back. well, that's not bringing a panel here in the studio with me. we have algebra correspondent already have some is extensively coveted wrong. we also haven't hundreds of very joining us again earlier, i'll start with you in terms of protocol because a number of questions have been raised, especially around communications. and i'm wondering that this is a president on a helicopter, on an official trip with the satellite fine. as well, these questions of course, are valid, but in the situation of iran, i think there are many limitations. so, and these limitations, that's a fault. you know, the country isn't in control with respect to the south like phones and the way the

president is going to be located through the satellite fonts. so out of the security measures, probably, you know, we're just analyzing. so probably they would, they wouldn't maybe take with them satellite probably, but at the end there should be a gps and right now. and that's what the rep pressing for right now is trying to locate the, the, the, the, the plane or the heavy called the, the because the, the, the area where the helicopter fence or crash. because just a few minutes ago, the president's instagram official instagram page is spotted using the term highly comforter crush range. and we've had several, we had hauled landing, we had an accident. yeah. and now helicopter crash, not to him, essentially an official. so yeah, an under calling on people to pray for the president. so um, now the attempts to try locate the highly cop to the team, the crew. why the still alive? i mean, we, we can't really know what's happened to them is going on and the whole country is

mobilized aside from the red crescent. of course, i would assume that the i r d. c is taking a major role in this given the fact that they have revolutionary golf course that other you share to god. given the fact that how fast a resources in order to try to locate a session recover. and so this is a huge operation right now, going on with the army involved, the, i'll just see that to be sure to got involved the red crescent security. i thought this is people on the ground. so i think it's the who you want as a, as a state is completely mobilized quantity to know the faith of the didn't was missing. right? you mentioned the revolutionary god, the what just going through the minds of intelligence services in iran right now. what is their priority, other than obviously, trying to locate the president. what are there other considerations of the state? what of cause many scenarios?

of course there is a security scenario that is scenarios which is related to just an accident. i mean, it could be an assassination attempt, it could be an accident that just took place just because of the weather. conditions could be anything. well, of course, given the fact the mindset of the iranian establishment is too complicated and compound that'd be, that'd be taken all the scenario into consideration. given the fact that the country just had a clear clash. so let me say confrontation with israel just a few weeks ago. i'm already in confrontation with several other countries, whether in the region or outside the region. therefore, many scenarios are going to be taken into consideration and it would be interesting to see and to understand how this mindset would be working at this moment. given the fact that this incident is multi layered and everything is possible. and it's obviously an incredibly,

incredibly sensitive time for the region to stay with me because i want to take a little bit of a closer look at around a vacation safety record. we understand that they haven't at least 22 faithful crashes since 2000 and according to around the evaluation safety network, those have killed more than 1200 people. range and government officials and generals are among those who have died. a plane carrying the spokesman a step crushed last year, killing one of his advisors. and in $26.00 a minute, treat jet crash, landed and killed a come on the of the revolutionary god. i'm not sure of the blame has been aimed at us sanctions, which has made it very difficult to import new aircraft or even spec pods, us and that's forced around to ground. move in hoff, if it's civilian aircraft measure, let me throw this one that you because we've been talking about sanctions and how that's impacted not any vision, safety record all around, but also potentially such and rescue right now we're seeing crowds of people come

out in prayer and in support of the president, is there a concern that that might be if this is indeed and deemed to be an accident, an additional layer of anger aimed at the west? of course, i think at the moment everyone would remember the functions, the function. would it be would be mission, but every, you know, but addition, every don't alice who wants to cover the story and it's hard to avoid it. basically because with the number you have mentioned about the records of thought of some of those incidents and the people would go, it's hard to avoid the impact of sanctions on what's happening to noon on this, not to forget. most of the aircraft of it already and add an behind add. i'm not allowed to fly over here at all because of safety and security issues. so this tells you how much there is a cl concern when it comes to the impact of functions on the internet of the ocean industry as a hold of course. and on said, you know, we,

we try to cover it. we try to uh to get um, spare parts from other sources. um they, they tried to buy from european to try to, uh, buy small digits for the officials to try the that even though you know those helicopters, everyone said there are old uh there were there were, you know, there were many times the pad and trying to to place their spears on file. so it's, it's a, it's a very hard to avoid the impact on the sanction and such incidents. well, let me ask you then, because the person monitoring this very closely how is local media reporting on this right now? obviously that the, the following official updates. but i imagine there's a huge amount of speculation. and just in terms of the angle and the timing with which this has been, you know, it's, it's very interesting to see for, i think it's one of the 1st time i see the media and seems very of washington or the how the color they started with the issue of pod plans, the, as you said, and then they talk about the way the inbox and then they talk about the, you know,

the cost. so i think 1st of all, we have not heard it from any media out so far as far as i see. any kind of speculation about security incidence that is so far is not in the media for multiple is remarkable. the 2nd thing is, uh, the gradually amount of information revealed from this, the 1st 2nd, not the very 1st minute. i mean, so the 2nd, the information was coming quickly without any kind of control us without an out of the pharmacy english. and there is little bit of i would say, consistency of what's, what's, what's coming up on their voice. that's also, that's more meant to be honest with you or someone, you know, who's working on for 20 years. that's also enough. norma, it seems there's a, what i mean, what that is a, what is it that was really, are, you know, surprising them and information just come, no one can control this, or actually, you know, they, they, those who are covering top to control them,

especially some of them social media, it's hard to impose any or that on, on what they do. the other sort of thing. i think when it comes to me that it got this, this alter, you know, close to the security products or to secure or, or put it back, put edition onto the sc supremely the, or to the government. all of them actually trying to mission to really the st information, the same details. and they use the same terminology. some of them would some delay, they use the clash, but out of them now they use the i had a couple other question which i think is very interesting to see that you've covered around extensively. and i see you nodding head that have you been surprised by, by the unity of coverage around was this is something that we've been seeing in the last few years at least a couple of years. but i'm not sure what saying this was remarkable and significant today. it's faulted after the dining of ukrainian plane and to the end 2020 after the beginning of cost them. so they money. because that was really criticism

for the establishment because of funds spent. and so you at that time and it's it could have excluded the government actually at the time of the president at that time because of the transparency was threatening to resign. so i think that there were steps to try get into this dress bed and see it in order to make things easier . i would, i would like to just mention something regarding the helicopter to what we know now that they had a cup to is the $412.00. and it's an american made. have you called? that's was in the had it all, it is inherited from the shortest time. this helicopter is more than which one you find that. yeah it's, it's more than 45 years old. and it was, it, it belongs to the uh, to the ministry, and then it was transferred to the presidency so. so that has been a pleasure called share. that's been been raised to a few times. and i, i wonder if you have any insight into this sally, the idea that essentially is as you were saying, logic with the number 2 and number 3 of around the president and the foreign minister with both on the same helicopter. when there was a con boy,

we understand of 3 helicopters and the other 2 made it to safety. they were current . other officials isn't normal to put your 2 most senior officials on the same form of transport. well, i think that's, that's an issue. of course to, to question, but now regardless of about 5 minutes, that being number 3, because i think the vice president should be the number. sure. but i the, and he's the ready and what kind of thing and then i'll official and the government . so, i mean, yeah, it said something really that raises questions, but at the end, the way the practical works in the wrong could be different from how the political work works. and the whole world does a lot of things that just school at home, regardless of the very solid look of the establishment and how we see it from outside, from within it's, it's much more in, you know, it doesn't really goes with particles in these issues. all right, so i'm sure one of these questions are going to be raised and dissected in many,

many times in the coming days and weeks and months will leave it that do stay with me. the gentleman i want to go back to our correspondent russell santa, who is bringing us overlays just updates from tire on result. you were telling us earlier about the huge crowds that we were seeing come out and sold a darcy with the president's praying for his safety. what other reaction have we seen so far as well? now just a little, i go the, the, the, the head of the i, or just see that the iranian revolution, the guards and the army mohammed balcony has said that she has, or their, the army to mobilize. all the means that the army has, you know, whether to, to, to a, to a, to a, to rescue the presence and to, to, to, to reach, to the, the size of the accidents. so all the minutes, their personality, the coupons, the vehicles, and also the have of the running of rep customers also saying that they have deployed tremendous resources to medical teams. the ad building says the aerial

vehicles to the area, but not to the particular that the incident, a support and the writing in ref, crescent, obviously seeing that day so far, i have deployed some more than 40 teams to the area. and one of that teams is now about to, to, to, to reach to the, to the had the cop there soon about. it's not clear what she means by, by these, where the soon, whether it's going to take hours or minutes. if not as of now clear yet, but you said that the one of the teams is getting close to the crashed had a carpenter. so what the know so far is that the, the, in the morning president of iran able to embrace the which according to the iranian the 4th, think of a high energy is the 2nd in command. he's the guard and who's the head of the government. and right off the supreme leader who is the head of the state. if somebody is the 2nd in command and she and also the running top diplomats,

the fort administer. seeing, i mean i have to lie young and the local government offices as that be john in the morning. they were attending an integration ceremonial paid them alongside the running and also that of age on the board there. and also the reading president in how my the and his team or so they have a time to, to this in that gratian and they were trying to defuse the to this is between the 2 countries which are rising in the last 3 years. but then after that, no going to cut about war. they've seen that these 2 countries that the relation between these 2 companies got the detail yates, that's pretty much them today they were trying to defuse the passion and some how to embark on a new chapter. in the morning that has been some very warm messages of the corporation, good neighbor lead relations and also how they are imagining about the future board for the both companies. because in the last 3 years, they have seen this 2 companies contact us several admitted to the videos that goes

alongside, that they have borders to show the mazda of, to the other. last year. it'd be genuine embassy in your on into her, on came on to an attack and it's 3 she was quite passed between the 2 to 2 days. the 2 day 2 presidents were trying to defuse dispassion and right off of the migration ceremony today had to cope this to go from that area and had it to. but the city of tempe is one of the largest city in the around in the north and part of the country's tools that had to go up as they landed safely. however, had to go up there that was carry in presence of the around it behind. but i see that you're on sort of minnesota, you're seeing, i mean, up to the young and the look of governor or fish probably so far as it you saw that the jump prevents it crashed it crash in a location that is very much close to the corporate mind cool, cold, something which takes place between the jo 5 and that's the gun, roughly around 70 to 100 kilometers away from the city,

off temporaries. and they will sort of these here are saying that the last time that they had a gps signal from the had to go up, there was in that location very much close to the corporate mind soon. go on. and they say that briefly, shortly before the, that the crash, the has been a phone call from the how the cop there between one guy in the headquarter and to this, to the, to do my pay or what the city of tempe is. but this did that, the connection was beat, it was sporadic, they could not have the poor per a conversation, understanding what was happening with the had to go up there. so we do not know what the reason for the crash was technical issues, technical problems, or whether it was because of the harsh weather conditions. but the run majorities are saying that's the area that the good that had to go up. the crash is mountainous. that's the forest, it's for the, it's a rainy, and now it's nighttime in the around. it's getting darker and darker and the set of

all these factors combined. they are really hammered in the rescue. a force that you're running an army is not mobilizes. forces the rough crest of these mobilizes forces and also along side of them twice. presidents, the ministers, the m p. 's, are heading to where the city of tempe to attend to this rescue a force. so one know it's about the reading of the issue industry. so it has been under the sanctions for my students, for to years by the west of was particularly by the usa and the equipment they have given vehicles headquarters or the passenger planes that are being used or in service are quite outdated due to the sanctions. the running authorities are not able to updates them to replace them with the more than a coupon. so that's why it's frequently we'll hear with here. we'll share the reports of the crashes, and most of them are that the best right now. the ren majorities, according on nation to attend the prayer, says this pay a set of monies to, to, for the have off the president and the for the minister off the comforter. but you

understand that distribution is very much serious. however, we do not know whether they are injured or if they are having any, even more serious situation, russell cetera that i'll correspond to on the ground in the arabian capital, with all the very least useful, giving you more updates as we get them. thank you very much for so that's now go back to our panel here. it's in the hot as russell was saying, the vice president and a number of other senior officials are on their way to, to res. i understand that there was a plan cabinet meeting that cabinet meeting has now been cancelled. monday. could you remind us of, of what the protocol is, are in the event that the president is incapacitated in any way? according to the internet persecution article 1311321133134. it's very clear that on, in the case of the president that defies the president will take a look and i no longer 2 months and election would be hold. and then i would be

election for the president. the, the process is very clear. um, you know, he would have basically taking the responsibility of the president and the whole water. when would it be then as it's as it should be and including, you know, this disparity, a derby preparation for the elections. i think that's one of the interesting thing about the constitution. this is not. this applies also on the supreme. these are himself on the succession. it's very clear to steps to avoid any kind of political vacuum. i think the experience of um, after uh many uh, this was happen also when so the kind of stuff into the, uh, became to simply me the, i wanted to get to the supreme data in just a moment. but i'm, i'm actually wondering what happens if, for instance, they do find president, right? you see, and he's injured and unable to carry out duties. what happens then you're talking about elections about that suggests that he's no longer the yeah, the says the article actually was very clear, the talk about this

a bit as well. okay. it's not only that there is then a way for him to come back. so if he, if you need some recovery time someone stands in for him, and then then he returns to offer to allow me just to, to the, the control because that, because that's is, that's a very, it is very interesting to look at. the article says very clearly that the case of the death and um, unless i'm stables, he wouldn't. uh, the so yeah, it's very, it says in those 3 cases, um and um, uh the so the vice president will take over. mm hm. and um, the, in the case of the president basically, um survive or, or, or as ellis finished. so basically he can come back as the president that presumably would have to happen within the space before election. so it's the exact within 5 periods reports and 6, it is nothing more of a single. yes. you his a do with this. you guys just, well, let's talk about the,

the other succession question that we've been referring to. and that's the succession of the supreme leader. we've been saying repeatedly that the president try. you see a very religious man himself was in the line potentially to to succeed the supreme . lita, how a how does anything happening to him now effect fast but of course raised he was one of the main names on the list. of course he will, he's in the only name. while he was one of the main names and given the fact he was on that list and he was in his already at president that gave him a lot of chances. now just in case things are going to change his present price is not going to get back from this situation or you, i mean, in the different scenarios, this could really mix the, the costs once it gets. and of course, all the names that are on the list because there are names that we don't know under kept mainly that it's

a freebie that will keep them for himself or the let me say the committee that is in charge of choosing the next to the next, supreme data, and of course, this is going to change change a lot of things in your, on mix, a lot of costs and you want, well, let's take into consideration also that in the past there was a president to move on to the left once f as in a test in 1981, how much did i shot you? was an assistant ation that's anthony was killed and just off to the us as a nation. there was an election and someone else came and took his place. now of course, this is a different was, this is a different situation. well, at the end, just in case the presidency is, is vacant. that doesn't mean that the road to the, uh, the, the leadership is going to be interrupted for the others. maybe it's cost for i see it could be, but for otherwise it would give them maybe more chances. and maybe this would open the door for new names to get it to the nice which is an interesting concept at

this very, very sensitive time. we were speaking to after fanatic under the james bay. is that a who said that obviously when, when right you see took over from honey. a lot of western nations went through the us being one of them. but is right. you see now to an extent a known quantity. so if, if he was to pass on will be incapacitated in any way and someone was to then have to succeed him. is that not going to create some more anxiety for the, for the west? yeah, i think so, i think at the end of the day the list would be always words with any kind of feeling the import efficient. you know the words with caught them when he was invalid. because the way he was open to the west, it was concerning to that was put in a petitions that's over it on it or in politics, remain there and listening, copy those. but i think what's interesting about, you know, if it's something happened to you see if they'll be able to the speculation about it and that's only his is posted the best present. but also, as he was saying,

is the supreme leader just putting the, the position, you know, if there was certain, you know, someone, you know, but i've done someone who don't know. so basically they said they were expecting or easy was in the less to the, you know, as someone they know him through as a presidency. i think now this particular issue would be more about who would be the successor of, of, of a company. and i did a, you know, huge decision this published last year. what i, what i the, who grows unify, the search was very clear that's, that's important to me, but important in the circumstances under what circumstances you had on wouldn't be when that's a succession wouldn't happen. i think that the process would it be determined by the long circumstances, the nature of the pressure from it on the nature of the political need of a moment and that all of this together, which it will decide who is the person but the then, you know, individual to be selected from what we're talking about a 60 day window, the yeah,

that the vice president would be taking over and obviously 60 days given what we're seeing happen in the region right now. 60 days it is a pretty long time. i mean, what do we know about the vice president? what kind of a magazine was mohammed locksmith is? of course, the vice president is and he's the guy we can say the front minister for them because he, he's in charge of the main economic decisions off of the country. of course, with a lot of experience in the public. uh, alex, feeling in the run by the end, big decisions out in to be taken within that a group. even the president isn't, isn't the one who called cause the shots. so any of one decisions are taken down make. and to make a decision that is a supreme national security council, it's, we have the big decisions on taking that for. i don't think that will be any kind of vacuuming evolved in disregard because the big decisions are taken on the

highest level of the supreme the, the, the i r g c national supreme national security council. and of course, the president would be represented just in case, i mean, depends on what's going to how this scene is going to end up if mr. morgan. but it's going to be in the supreme national security council. there's going to be a vote out of separate on votes. so the main decision makers are different. and therefore, i don't think this is going to really impact the your wants post are regionally and international view. of course, right now we're having a lot uranian american in direct uh, negotiations. of course the tension with is read the situation in the region. all these audits really the government's main tasks. the president is a president inside the one before the ministry is conveying what the national security council is deciding. and they are, they implemented policies. so at the end item, think this is going to be to have

a big impact on the countries region. the national politicians tell us that there will part of the existing architecture, essentially ali hush and roger was very, thank you so much for being with me on this out of here and use on. well, earlier we also spoke to mohammed, we're on the, he's in a rain and political analyst. he says the harsh weather conditions near unsupported with as a by john has made rescue operations very difficult. a sign in a mountainous region. it's also a dense forest as well. uh there were 3 helicopters and uh there was uh, the um the, the, the, the pilots uh was forced to make a hard landing. this is what we've heard so far. uh and uh, the rescue teams are moving in that direction, but it does have a uh, as i said,

this mountain is and is there for us. and it's very foggy. that is also raining. so it's going to be some time possibly before we get news of the president from the opened his delegation that was rich going to the city of copies from the board, right. we've seen footage of the area there is a very heavy fog as we speak. we've had the last few weeks in a row. i'm actually, we've had a lot more rain and even snow than we usually would have. during this time of year, we had a, a, a, a, a slide in the city of masha to the north east of the country, which um, killed a number of people. so, uh, this weather is not usual for this time of year. and uh the, the region is mountain is so uh,

we don't know yet. hopefully the president will be, uh, found safe and sound. but uh, we are waiting for further news just like everyone else. they met with the president of the republican other by john and on the border area of 10, all great, a, a major project. and so obviously the foreign minister would be a part of the delegation. the president was also planning to visit a couple of provinces in the north. he does travel a lot throughout the country, i think said that he we have 30 provinces and i think every year he try to ease promise to travel to each province. at least one so he is constantly on the move. uh but um this time around its uh its cause. obviously concern for everyone. people are concerned but uh we are a whole lot. oh,

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