for the, the, these areas where divided also i thought to be honest, the country was part of the greater persian empire. so i mean, this area is, is well known as, as, as our region on. so given the fact that the president of trent adage, they're trying to push forward maybe the relations between the 2 countries and also with the, as of the population or the community. and you have on him very big and, and how they have a very big voice in the country. okay. awesome. thank you so much. the, that's $1400.00 gmc, for those of you just joining us. recovering breaking news out of iran. i'm the helicopter carrying uranium presidents, but i came to the easy as well as the foreign minister has gone missing in bad weather conditions. and the north of the country presidente that ac was reportedly on his way to the city of companies in northern iran. that's near the border and

president of the ac was in the region to inaugurate a down and also to hold talks with her as everybody's on a president. we have russell sars are joining us from the, the rainy and capital to her on rest. so what are you hearing at this hour, as well as of now is now confirmed that they had to go up there that was carrying the president of iraq had of the government in this company. the 2nd man in command in the country found the company's top diplomat, therefore, administer racine ended up to lie young and the local governor off there probably soft is as a big john, we're all in the same, had to go up there and that had to go up there has crushed the said media steel. uh this is using different and terms. some of them are saying that it was a hard landing for somebody that said that it was a crash. but the, anyway, we know that distribution is quite serious here because the headquarter is still missing and the rescue teams have not been able to reach the site off the incidence

. so just to add on a little bit back, 2 dates, the presence of iran, ibrahim vc, and the president all of us. that'd be john. you know how my the they have a time that that integration ceremony off at them alongside the runny and also be johnny border that often he is, tasha is nations between these 2 countries. they have to go up with trinity. they use this as an opportunity to somehow restore the ties of today. they met there, and there were lots of delegations from both size, the top diplomats of the countries politicians, including the head of the state and those that'd be john had of government in, in iran that send out your messages, the corporation, the good neighborly relations between the 2 companies trying to defuse the passion . so often, you know, gratian praise the receipts, and he's to me is

a top. you run diplomats and put additions. they took on the $33.00. how do you cope? there's tools that had to go up there. they had landed successfully, but the one that was carrying presidency behind receipts the for the minister, i mean up to lie young and the look of government or use as a big jump. proteins has crashed somewhere in between jewels and that's the gun. it is positive page on proteins, which is roughly between 70 to 100 kilometers a way to tab please the the, the largest city in your city in the north, off the, the conference. so here the rescue teams, they see that they have arrived to the area. however, they have not been able to still have an access to the particular the site to the support of the incident. they have now somewhere in between jo for and there is a gun, but they have not been able to detect the support where they had to cope there just

just that's just crashed. and so i just know we do not know whether there has been any communication between the president for the minister, the local governor, and all the people that were in the same, had to cope there between them and the rescue teams. we did not know whether that it had been any sort of the communication and we do not know whether the present is danger. the top diplomat, if you run is injured, the look of governor or the others that put on the same had to come to are injured or not for even maybe more seriously. but what we know had to go up there is now missing and the rescue team said they're in frantic affords to reach to the area to leads to that that support. but they're also saying that it is a mountainous area, the forest. and it is really, it is for the all of these factors combined together on how many they rescue a force. and now that particularly it's a,

it's even in iran and we are getting into nights so it's going to get darker and darker. and all of these factors combined or telling us that there is a very difficult task. how do the rescue teams to reach the president? we do not know how they are, but as us at the situation of the, of the president of the, the, for the minister of the look of governor and the others that were on the same. same, had to go up there. so one thing to note at the readings here, we're talking about, you're writing an education sector. so it has been on the sanctions almost since because womic revolution in 1979, they're talking about almost full decades off the sanctions. and they're quite all the tests. so due to the sections, do you run into a tool that you use the situations they've used in sector 10? not the new the all data past. they cannot replace them with the more they're in the coup, ma'am. so they had to go up to the, the, the, the,

the passenger planes or any equipment that is being used in education sector or some of them decades long, decade old equipments. and they did receive such crashes, such as the ition accidents quite often in this country. and many of them are dudley won. so that is why when the reports about sunny it will you recall being crashed. so it has to be taken quite, quite serious. so that, that actually took place in the, in the, i used as a big jump program where the majority of the population are the took is speaking as every people. and it is, it, is it that the north of the country, it is relatively, a mountainous area is challenging in terms of the terrain. and now the rescue teams are saying that it's really that it's for the and it is quite difficult for them really to having access to this area. but as of now what we know,

what these concerns is that the, the, the, the, the, had to go up the depth was carrying president of the country, the top diplomat of the company, the for the minister and the look of governor off this as a big jump programs, had a cup that, that had to go up there, crushed and it is still is missing. they do not know the exact location. they're trying to find it out. but they're saying that the weather conditions are making the things quite difficult. okay, russell, a thank you for giving us all that information from ron. we'll let you go for the time being and will speak to him. how much but on the who's a political analysts also joining us from to her on mr. moran. d. thanks for taking the time to speak to us. what are you hearing on your end? i mean, there's still a loss that we don't know. what do you know? i think you're a reporter, gave a, an accurate description of the situation. the helicopter was fine in a mountainous region. it's also

a dense forest as well. there were 3 helicopters and there was a, b, b, b. the pilot was forced to make a hard landing. this is what we've heard so far. uh, and the rescue teams are moving in that direction, but it does have a uh, as i say, this mountain is and is therefore us. and it's very foggy. and it's also raining. so it's going to be sometime positively before we get news of the president from the opened his delegation that was rich going to the city of tempe, bees from the border area. so you can expect it to be a challenge and rescue operation, particularly in that area. yes,

because we've seen footage of the area, there's a very heavy fog as we speak. we've had the last few weeks anyway. i'm actually, we've had a lot more rain and even snow then we usually would have during this time of year we had a, a, a, a, a flood in the city of masha to the north east of the country, which um, killed a number of people. so uh, this weather is not usual for this time of year, and the region is mountainous so we don't know yet. hopefully the president will be uh, found safe and sound. but uh, we are waiting for further news just like everyone else and we understand mr. merante that the foreign minister as well. i mean i've been the know he on was among the passengers in that helicopter incident. and that's right because they

met with the president of the republic composite by john and on the border area. okay, now great. a, a major project. and so obviously the foreign minister would be a part of the delegation. the president was also planning to visit a couple of provinces in the north. he does travel a lot throughout the country. i think hate that he we have 30 provinces and i think every year he try, he's promised to travel to each province at least one. so he's constantly on the move. uh but um, this time round its, uh its cause. obviously a concern for everyone. people are concerned, but uh, we are hopeful what would be the state of the helicopter that he was traveling. and then not convoy understand. there were 3 helicopters in that combo. and i ask you

this because our reporters have been pointing out that iran, of course has been under decades of us sanctions. so if you can tell us a little bit of a how that affected the aviation industry and the maintenance of such equipment a well, i don't know about these particular helicopters myself and obvious, but obviously they americans have put the severe sanctions on the writing ation. industry, iranian airlines are always seeking for spare parts. over the past few years, they've been able to begin to rebuild, make their own spare parts for many of the aircraft or all of the aircraft. but it is still a problem, but i don't know what is to make of these helicopters, how old they are. they have any problem. it, it does seem though that there was very bad weather and there it is. very foggy. and the footage from the rescue teams does show that it's that it's very difficult

to see there. so it could be that the helicopter pilots, since his, his other people on his helicopter were more important as the government officials than the other 2 didn't want to risk it and he swiftly uh, brought down, but helicopter, it could be something else. but again, we'll have to wait and see, i don't have any information at all that could be helpful in that regard. right. all i can say is that what i'm seeing from the television footage visibility is very low. a lot then i don't mean to put you on the spot here, but i just wondered what you understand from when, when it's being described by a rainy and media, is this helicopter having to make an emergency landing as well as a hard landing? i mean, do you have any more details on exactly what of what would have happened?

it could be many things i would expect that it would be that due to low visibility, the pilot either wanted to bring in this bring the helicopter down quickly or that he suddenly saw something and quickly set to bring a stop to bring down the helicopter. there is a report and i don't know if this is true or not that one of the, uh, people in the helicopter made a brief phone call, but because uh there was, there was a connection is very bad. they couldn't speak. uh uh, but i don't know if that's true or not. that's, that was in one of the report that i saw in one of the news agencies. so it's uh, at this stage, it's all speculation. yeah. and we are working to confirm all the information, but i will let you go for now. thank you so much for how much. what on the 1st

speaking to us from to ron media, about zeros correspondence on the hashem who has coverage. iran expensive li are joining us here on the a, or you're hearing anything on your end was just the same that he does the moment. it's speculations and looked at him and do a single so many analysis. but there is nothing solid yet to whether it's very bad . tell us what we know when this our, what we know for now is that a, how do you comforted? cutting the president? the, for the minister. and i mean of the, on the governor of, uh, eastern as that'll be john and the mom of the breeze. we're all on the same plane. how to do a hard landing as was reported, according to the interior minister till the moment. and it's very difficult to reach the scene of the incident. and the, the, the, the countries institutions,

the red crescent, the army, the i r g c, the security. is it all and let me lie. so i can now to find the president. for now, the president and his crew and to the team and the stain are missing. so what would that mobilize a look like? what would be happening right now? cause planes, people coming out from every area in the, in the surroundings. i think that the eye of gc will be leading such a such innovation because they have a lot of resources to be used in such situations. and given the fact also, yvonne has a lot of experiences and such and such incidents. what's your role in the past? he has been cross helicopter across this things have been happening and you just discuss the doctor. this is one of the reasons of that mean. one of the reasons is the is the sanctions because the lack of spare parts, very old headed golf course, very old planes. this is one of these types of accidents are not uncommon is none

of this is not uncommon. this said that an army general, several officials where victims of such crush or such incidents lot just last year, the minutes you all missed the of of sports was uh on a plane that crashed. you didn't die. you bought that. then he was on the plane that crashed, and many people in the past also went through this several, as i said, army generals also what killed him in that similar across, especially had to come to across. and what i'm thinking is that this area is mundane. yes. it's very difficult and that's why the presidents have to go that with a helicopter. so it seems, there are many limitations to add. i've at the point where the president wants to go in with the caught on with the normal things. so they have to take this helicopter for the problem. is that on the way back this accident or this incident to pass across the moments, we don't have a clear definition of what happened. has there been any reporting on whether anyone

from the uranium establishments wasn't touched with those on the other helicopters, perhaps? has there been any communication from that area? let me tell you over the past couple of at least one over. there were separate of rumors, for example, one of the rumors was about the president's lessons on the comforter and he was on any call on his way to deputies the city of debris. it's much later on. we understood that this is not true and the agency that published the slide deleted it, i thought was on the other line, i think also, you know, just was talking about that the communication a line of communication was established with a member of the, of the team of the president's team, but later on it may, the, there was not possibility to talk because the line was very bad. and no one is able really to confirm these reports. at the, the, the big question is whether the president had a satellite phone on his name, for example, for such a situation for emergency situations. and i mean,

these are the questions that might be asked, but for now what we know and what's obvious is that the presence is missing and the whole country is looking for the president. then as we were reporting the past hour, a fox news agencies now calling on to people to pray for the president on and tell us what the president was doing on this particular day uh, in that particular area. i mean, we've seen the pictures will play them if we can. of him meeting up with the president of us are based on this, this is the northern borders. nothing's wrong with that. is that a vision? of course, the state that the republic offers, that'll be johnny's on the board that is offered on from the, from the audi, off east as that return province. and west, i was going to be jump comments. so the president was that if he met with the president, i years opened an invitation, and he any great to the them project that and as we saw the pictures out of the

pictures, the money, iranian ministers, and actually it seems that these ministers, what and all the things so they were with the hands of minister off of the roads and stuff isn't bosh, was with him. and we saw all those so on then after the integration of the project on the then abrasions between the president and is uh, come to find the account. of course the, the whole event came to on that and then the president had to go back to deputies, which is the closest city to the border there. and the off course, what are you doing now is that the plane went missing. and the, at the beginning there was a report of how the landing but human, the fact that the plane is missing and there is no communication. i think the term itself hard landing was used just to describe the incident spots. no one knows what happened really with the face because the other thing here was said earlier on, just the last question for you. and you said earlier on that 1st that was being reported as a hard landing and then language changes to accident incident incidents. this is

what the, the, the interior minister said, well, he just said, do i, should we read anything into that? well, the problem is that we don't have solids information, right? so we, we were relying on the iranian forces to tell us what's happening and they don't know what happened, right? so this is the issue right now. i think you want is complete, you know, of all the institutions and you're going to record and he mobilize general what happened and to recall at 2225, the president. the 1st of all, i do understand what happened and that might be very big questions. after this incident, okay, depends on the the safety and the health of the president. oh, okay. uh, i have some thank you for the time being well, not bringing. uh so as far as, uh, the who is an associate professor, faculty of world studies at the university of to around he's joining us by skype from us to ron. thanks for your time. what's your reaction to this? uh, breaking news story, this developing story you know,

accidents happen. this is not the 1st time that's a good across those of a fan. and as an early hush, i'm just said, we don't know exactly what happened if you monitor me on television. the showing goodesky with teams in the mountains in this area that is experiencing heavy heavy fog is so the area had some difficulty is the rich and you have a thing to see what's happening. of course, people around the president have the cell phones and it seems the difficulty is not a problems they cannot be reached. it could be that because the accident is serious or it could be because the area is not covered with cellphones. given the fact that this isn't mountainous area,

so we just have to wait 10 c. uh for uh for the, for the next information that's uh, that's coming up. what do you know about that particular area and tell challenging that rescue operation might be because we've been hearing from our correspondence as well. we've been to iran and also from the iranian interior minister who's, who, who's saying the rescue crews are on the way. but it could be challenging because of weather conditions of the, you know, the pictures that we are seeing shows the challenge in terms of the heading fault that, that they're experiencing, that in that, in that part of it on, you know, this is a north west of the lawn that it's a mountainous region. this is a spring. we have rain, we have had lots of rain in the last few days and you are the president

was at the. ready board of it, the other i'm glad you on your public. the pages on top of that by john came, they said i'd be f as to inaugurate it down. that's what it strikes the built. limits as that by john. and of course, you know, when, when you have this type of news uh, people worry about sabotage. uh huh. and given the fact that the public has many, many a strong ties, the israelis is a point of concern. let me just ask you, just on that point you just made about a people would worry about sabotage. what, what do you mean by that? you know, that was that by john a, as i said, has extensive links with the israel is really no side is all over the

legend territory. given the fact that you guys are seeing a genocide in the palace sign and given the fact that it is very these are the resulting to all types of measures to create k us in this part of the world. one would think about, as i said, we don't know, we don't have any hard information, but that one was worried that this was an operation is really operation at 2 ss and they, they either on the end president, we don't know. yeah. office, i mean the, there's a lot that you're right, i mean, there, there is a lot that we don't know at this hour, but, but are you hearing whether rescue teams? i have reached the area a you know, that we are monitoring here on the, on television. and then as i said it, if you,

if you bought a new one in television, you'll see the pictures of the rescue teams in the mountainous area that is experiencing heavy fox. uh, and given the fact that the area is mountainous, it may be really difficult to reach if you have an accident or that you have to, you have to you know, give the helicopter down. you may not have a lot of choices, but to land in a place that is not easy to access and the few towns and villages in that part of it on the road of course a. but given the fact that the area is quite mountainous in the helicopter, it may be an event, an area that is the only way you can get to that visit's metallic customers. and

so we just have to wait and see whether they're going to uh, locate this headed cop. that is, as you have the problem, you report to the, you know, i've even been depressed. gonna travelers the generally more than one haven't talked about 3 or 4 and headed cop stairs. and so one of them and have experienced this difficulty given the fact that it's been about one and a half hours since the news broke. so i think we can safely conclude that is the helicopter that the president was sitting in experienced that difficulty because the headquarters would, would reach the destination brain. yeah. and that is what we're hearing. and that there were 3 helicopters, us, part of the presidential con void, but we'll leave it there for an awful i to reside the we thank you for giving us

the time in speaking to us from a tech ron will get more updates with our correspondence here. in the studio we have on the hashem highly has covered iran extensively, and we have, i'll just see us diplomatic editor, change phase knows around very well as well as the diplomatic scene change. but 1st, the on the over to you anything new at this hour, according to the presidential spokesperson, the vp, the best advice president, a members of the company that's on the way to companies, which is the closest city to where the have you come to, how to into so this is one of the latest of what's happening and of course, the lots of speculations in your on and in many places as far as, for example, the religious fights in your on like in much had, i'm from the doing prayers right now for the safety of the press, and that is something that was put out by state media wasn't not this, not straight up for people to pray. james, how well a,

the international community you'd be looking at this. obviously we wait to see exactly what's happened. but any reaction that you've seen so far, no reaction to tool, but that's because they are doing exactly what we are doing. and every foreign ministry, every and product and service in the region and in europe, and in the us that trying to work out what this will means and what has happened and is the radians don't seem to have a of those. so the publicly come up with the news of exactly what's happened that they are relying on, on whatever information they can clean. we've had these woods coming out of hard landing crash, crash landing. they will are actually versions of the same thing just depending on how much control the pilot had, as he managed to bring the heavy cup to down and they sound very different in terms of the outcome. so it's certainly something that i think will be of great concern in the region given this very sensitive time. and the fact that we think both the president and the foreign minister were on the same helicopter. which to me i,

i'm somewhat surprised by that they would travel on the same. have you coped to audi? might have a view on the audio. is that something that should be surprising? will people be asking why the president, on the, for a minister were on the same helicopter. i mean, there was a convoy of 3 from what we understand. what, uh the and it depends on how this has been organized. not all the ministers, one on one on one plane, the distributed on on 3 headed golf. does um probably uh that was just an ad hoc. good decision. i then no, i mean that right? no, i'm not really very knowledgeable on how they do these logistics and how do on the protocol we're going to cross it goes yeah, but the end in your on many things are to expect. i mean, the unexpected is expected. so that's not something to, to be surprised off while the main issue right now is what's going to happen after this. and here, what are the biggest questions, the biggest question,

1st of all the present safety and just in case is not safe. what fixed? this is going to be a very big question, one, especially with president tracy being one of the main names for the succession for i to last time in a because everyone was mentioning grace's name as one of the main names who will succeed. i to lock them how many that in case the supreme leaders leadership is vacant. now if president traces basis weekend, big question is what's going to happen? because this has happened before the new law, 1981, when the president was right, it was assassinated. so when president treasury was assistant aged in 1981, after that there was an election and i to last time united became depressive. i don't know. this is the, these are things, of course dr. maybe out early to, to discuss. first of all, we need to know what, what's the situation of present, tracy, and on the team on the stand by just a just a moment.