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is like many precious educational and also institutions. it's face financial pressures and recent years and some stuff to say that worried about the future. even the ones who are not in the affected departments feel very upset because often people come to goldsmith not just to study in that particular department, all to design because scouts, mrs. interdisciplinary. so i think that they've been really disappointed with what's happening. student fees support higher education in britain, but often so it is public funding to a government decision in 2021 to identify several academic areas for spending. cuts has placed thousands of on some humanities courses at risk. we're now seeing i really noticeable acceleration in the decline and in some cases, dismantling of us and crowds of courses at university and higher education level campaign is like jack gamble say that's a long term problem for nation that's known as an autistic powerhouse site space. 5, i'm a type martin behind me to sign the examples of the case,
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cultural sector and crates of industries. the country be over a 1000000000 pounds a year to the utah economy. the government has identified the cries of industries as one of the 5 priority areas. the gross and yeah, the same time the government is costing its funding for the pots and price, of course is that's the, the talent pipeline into these globally successful industries. i don't know it's, it's like massy. this makes a question. her future career choices. i just feel out of control basically, and i, i feel like is, is, is really solid, needs help to make decisions and give up some things that you may have wanted to do . working 3 jobs already just to support herat. anxiety is now discordant note in her creative sound scape. for the months i'll just say around london. now the world of heavyweight boxing has a new champion, ukraine's alexander you sick high school, a narrow split decision victory of
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a person's tyson site. in re add, the 37 year old is the 1st books that to hold or full major heavy weight belts at the same time, very have to take a standing count in the 9th round was judge to have struggles in the last 3 rounds . with using, edging him out on the judges, school called the win makes the 6 the fast on the speech of champion, since the reign of lennox lewis, and it's in the off team. okay. you're up to date. i'm monday. inside lots more information on our website out. is there a dot com? do you check it out? the news continues here on out as they're coming up. next is the bottom line to stay with us, the a full step of the homes and now hiding from the heat and the group of displaced
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people sit in the shade. this is the 3rd time they've had to flee the village close to the town of coker, and they hadn't even a right village before they start telling us. it's especially hard for the children, most school spring clothes since the q 3 years ago. and constantly moving is the plan set 24 hours a day as a constant bodies in the sky. that's what the fine to say is y 12 and suppose the plane bits of the looking for targets fronts, hillary, but also capable of jumping down on other basic services like health care scares to the clinic. a small truck arrives inside my pen a in labor and moaning in pain, the sound everyone has been hoping to hit smiles and really for the family and the medical stuff for the new arrival in a very um system. well a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. if israel doesn't want a permanent ceasefire in gaza, then what does it really want?
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let's get to the bottom line, the israel's leaders and see if they won't accept the permanency speier and they're, we're on gaza and they've intensified their attack on rasa. that town is the last refuge for more than a 1000000 palestinians who been pushed there as israel extends, it's warren gaza, with no end in sight. us president joe biden said that israel's plans to attack proper quote just wrong, and he paused a shipment of weapons to israel. but how real are the tensions between israel and its biggest sponsor, the united states? and can israel continue with warren guys with impunity? well into the future today we're talking with daniel levy, president of the us middle east project and former advisor to be as really government. daniel, thank you so much for talking with us today. we just go right to the news president biden has put a pause on the shipment of arms and weapons and 2000 bond pound bonds is real. do you see this is a serious inflection point in the relationship, or is this just
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a minor speed bump? states it all depends on whether he's willing to sustain and expands this way and it's been cold. last fall is that such an immense being revisited will be sent to the time b. steve, i to show you with all i and many people watching will question well, how will they doing still sending to 1000 pound balls and a heck of a lot of other ordinance to what he's route might seem to of what we quite clearly see easy to have a staging stitch. ready issue where as well as no big targeting with precision, we see north poles all the latin through re i program being used. you see the
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highest court in the world, the international court of justice, issue provisional measures, all the south african initiative regarding violations of the genocide which co provisional measures to prevent irreparable damage to the palestinian civilian population. get a soft of that decision. the us will still sending shipments the price of the bite and very possibly acknowledged to things in that cnn interview 1st. but then they would have been both crimes can be used to 1000 pound balls and secondly, the norms involved always the way for it. okay. put that aside for say, the real questions going full will be ministration. tell us that as is real big is to go into to wrap up right now is rarely say it's a limited operation. washington is a guest image operation that nothing young busy, no hurry. and this feels like precisely the beginnings of something divided
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administration has said, don't to add, that continues as we still don't see the entry of the kind of humanitarian assistance that is and that's not. sonya says down the prices and says, we have the weapons as we're continuing shame on you for challenging us of this way. and as we hear the echo chamber inside, the us go off to the press, or will the president begin to muddy the waters and say of cold sees rose boil goals of somebody we still back. we don't really see uh rough uh as being uh, having cross a tipping point cause i must have still to blame for the fact. there's no deal, even though i said yes, interesting. no. will the see that marching all will receive the president say to these raise the prime minister. i'm the super power here. you are undermining us.
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these off potential violations, but we cannot be pump. so we are not going to send you the weapons because from day one of these complex prudent weeks and the months is ro couldn't build a sustain this without that not just political diplomatic casa, but that very concrete, american military support. and the key point, right? that if the ministration isn't capable of sustaining this for a period of probably several weeks, then nothing yahoo will carry on and he will fail. he has the measure of the pressed estate. nothing you know has a problem. we could all pre decide relief because the war will have to wind down. that's the question i want to ask you about an article you wrote, i commend our audience to read it called seeing gaza clearly. and in this, in this article, you talk about the struggle of really jewish identity,
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both within is real but also among american jews. and the divides that, that you were seeing generationally. ok. and you also go to the question of a, a in party jewish core at the basis of many of these college protests we just discussed. and i'd love to know from you what you think gaza in this crisis is doing to jewishness in america to is really identity at home. how, how are things being worked? we have said this protest movement as we get from what we are reading here. reading, seeing the church contingent as a, as a cult may well be the 2nd largest alongside palestinians, arab americans. that's a significant thing. and we saw the president in what we're double wise of
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being a relatively standard and the pull speech on all the calls from edwards. but he said something that that had a long bells ringing for me. which was he takes now about design is a be anti semitic about these protests be anti semitic. he doesn't talk about the attacks on that to students by some of these rel sports. but les paul you know, of course i can understand that the palestinians design, this is the us with the display sleep, the ethnic cleansing a history of the denial of their rights. i don't know how you can most not be opposed to design as a, as a palestinian, but in the jewish space, you know,
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those are people we pride ourselves on constantly grappling with text of viewing, debating on show that stuff unique to the jewish there is a strand of jewish culture, also toxic, which sees the existence will design the state of israel as coal street to the reading of jewish text that you call have jewish sovereignty. absent the coming of the messiah, that's that you will have a cohort of jewish people who see actual existing design. that's just what has happened in the 75 plus years. what it is meant as an upfront, to better understanding of the cold. 5, use the cool epic they and we derives from our belonging to a jewish people and a jewish history and a universe style, etc. all of that,
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never again. so nobody mind dates that all jews who maybe don't. how do i do have those positions? look, this is very practical way and say the, you know, the id ology. what was that interesting to page? but is this real doing? was written on the, to israel baking the world, a safer place for re jews and for jews on the outside. by going down this ever more stream journey to a place where it's, it's in the adult at the international criminal court in special court of justice. let's just have a pragmatic conversation is this lucky? so the idea that you can create this before the end is of is an acceptable form of contemporary jewish expression. that is a top down full full place for a political debate to be and for a president today to be. and it says insults to many jews,
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kinds of jewish history. and it's the thing we have to recognize these people don't go home. it's not going to hold because was on the table today, and this is fascinating. it's not, you know, they're out. they say that the dispute settlement is going to fall. the idea that actually existing design is, is working. that's what some of the like for so i'm really important as well as what having not do, but i would urge because there's nothing more legitimate. i would argue nothing. mobile, jewish protesting against crimes and genocide and inhumanity. but i would urge people to make sure that purchase exist for pete. ready to traverse, but there is a way to the jewish people until people who like this identity disability ation with disrupt has been so central. i can understand that when i'm very anti semitism,
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the phrase but i insisted ethridge but when people have do so much of their identity around this affiliation with this, well, it comes feel like you're doing very sensitive being is on your soul. and as people question that we need to make sure that we're bridges for people to say, ok, this is hard for the how do i join you in the hall? and then the heat of the moment. i know that's difficult. but that has to be that way of, of reaching it out. it has been a full 10, happy jewish friday nights, jewish also for services. and i think it's gonna be really important. the more people can go. ready them next, johnny and the futures office to is ray jews again, a hall because there's an algeria, you know, plus, once we get beyond the policy that the offering has to be here is
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your place where you will actually be more secure. it has these ray jews living in a future dispensation of equality. notice going up some supremacy, but all the quality and i know try to preach to people who are living through a horrendous assault right now by the palestinians themselves. know that this will strategically sub them and they know, i think he's ready to go on going anywhere right from the river to the sea. they are going to be that, but not in this position of privileged organization under equality with the utilities best. right. daniel, where do you see palestinian identity at this moment? i know you have many palestinian contacts. you've been watching the protest in the united states. and you yourself have been a bridge many, many times between these different factions. what struggles and stresses does the palestinian side of this equation, which is under incredible siege right now,
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need to go through where, where is that? so as we see this piece movements, is that a challenge? you question people kinds of directions. this incredible proliferation. if people haven't yet seen michael's getting full, i highly recommend it's a cold top breakthrough. what is happening when you don't have a policy or a national move? it flies the flag, but it doesn't apply the liberation struggle stress. you don't have a move in that can say, hey, this is where we come in. this is where we can be useful. this is what we're offering as off free to chopped up because the, the main stream but through the v is also has been co date has been decimated. i don't know yet that yes, this has been, it is right. the strategy to be backed by america of the west to impose the does to impose the reality, to impose solutions adults policy. and through those years that leadership has lost touch with these people. so this is
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a mobile where not in the least propitious of circumstances, palestinians are having to grapple with how do they rebuild their own move, but they're of strategies their own visions for the future. and they just don't have given the space to do so. but the wants of a splunk to give to the palestinians, and i would argue by extension that to the possibility of a better future for palestinians in his regular like the worst thing one could do, would be to have this idea of that. you can simply go back to the status quality, a freeze, the outside reality choose need is full of the palestinians, put some text across some jobs. if people all familiar with the west coast of a sudden, columbus humphrey, but the fantasies around the saudis guaranteeing a power steering and future the saudis onto to forward into this problem. i don't need any way by the way, this notes which will. ready make it harder to get to the core
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of you know, what of a process of truth and reconciliation in the future of this i was involved in that i would also piece of it. and the thing that was supposed to speak to is the absolute proof was any attempt to get the truth reconciliation. historic justice, adult medium use ready to start, wakes, but it needs you to confront and talents. it comes with the dump sweep under the carpet, the seminal experience that have students open the o dispossession. and that's where the hall seat and i don't know. yes there are. there are petitions going around. this is a moment of a great to molten up organizing on the palestinian side, but on the really difficult stuff. my question to you in this is who is going to be the agent to help change the game on the palestinian side of this equation? because as i look at it, i don't see any error of states ripping up the abrahamic chords. i don't see jordan
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egypt saying, hey, our peace treaty is over. i see a lot of consternation. i see a lot of calls for concern. i don't see anyone changing the trajectory that they're on either in the era of world or the broader western us trans atlantic world in this tell me where i'm wrong. one thing the last 7 months to show. ready is the abraham a. ready type lies ation agree, the top clear, you know, that contribution to piece. i don't think that was it that of the actual architecture retention, but they have survived. they do that one way of looking at this, where israel conceal relatively relaxed about it's equities in the region. but i do think something fundamental this happened, which is that the not just those who side globalization. richard in general, a seen a few things how it is seen the. ringback there is a cost to be too closely associated with a country to conduct this extreme. they have seen that these rating based of
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instability has been shot that a lot of the reasons they thought it was loved being close up full in terms of ease arouse intel and all the military capacities are far more on the question they have seen the access of resistance, basically establishing new balance of to tablets. that is not a simple thing. well, that does not translate into the state to your question. is a willingness to say ok, that means we change it with to get a more unified representative policy and leadership. because that's the only way we can carry this forward. i think there's full recognition of that in the out over the, the, some of the global south that is really leading to this question and recent thoughts, whether it's africa with south africa or in the lead weather in south america with, with parts of asia where it would seem to need or that leisure step up in important ways. but i think the surrounding countries are still not playing the front lines stateful. they are facing the real concerns from their own public. what's doing the
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same social media videos as we are. and they are trying to navigate that traditional, those who are in close relations with america. that's additional relationship. lease, um clubs, sending over relations with these rel, i'm this recognition that this is watching. what do we do with the policy as the default? is you go back to those same policy and structures which inherently title deliver what is needed and where that brings me to save is to file number one we just bought out installed. try to see the structures on policies give promised. dig into the space that very rarely happens in international politics, but it's really needed now we need to bring together not just the factions, but civil society and the trade unions of women's movements and use movements and the business tribute that should be allowed to happen. i'm not saying, well,
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the 2nd thing that i think it points to is maybe the result for some in the region, but some of these outside state to have an affinity for reconciliation tools and who are perhaps a little less published. whether it's the south africa, with the liberation movement, experience, whether it's obviously or in this space to eventually i hope we need to how the palestinians find that space to reinvent their own politics. because that's going to be so crucial going forward. let me just ask you finally, daniel, about the recent by the administration's efforts and also cut power in egypt to get to a cease fire agreement with hamas. how mos accepted that is real rejected it. is there any scenario that you can see where is real and the different players in the region reset and withdraw from gaza, or is the essentially the i and i elation of gaza. the only future we're going to
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see it has up to the, the, the way into a sustainable com. sustainable ceasefire is the best way is roles to has hostages, that there's a public has about those hostages, the government and the prime minister at least have to sometimes give the impression that they can't. or i say that not to be flipped but, but i think at this stage it's really hard to imagine that that's a priority folder. but that, that there's a possible deal with those were still live on the hostage side can get out. that's the way into a ceasefire. israel withdraws from casa adams won't be games to rebuild the devastation that already exist. ringback yep, also is likely to be further dilated by say that with a heavy hawk the, the destruction ready for structure schools, hospital score blast is okay. and that's by the way,
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one of the pieces like campus is used car so much. so there's this idea of the one could get a d nothing your politic not just idea logic. so politic. ready is concerned that when he asked before he faces the music, what happens on october 7th, as of the military will reside, will he resign a logic protest, the types the streets, he's not finished, but he is sub bite, will continue. therefore, it will take a combination of domestic pressure and international pressure for 8 to be more politically risky and costly for him to continue the will rather than ends . if the us once before, the agent is going to have to be willing to maintain a scandal with these ready prime minister to get to that outcome. and this is the
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trajectory we have been on for several months, a structure directory. we continue on. unfortunately at the moment although a gauze o. ready t t u to salsa. east route is not going to eliminate come off. that's a scientist. see, israel will continue to be in this for the region. will continue to be all the nightstands. we haven't spoken about this, steve, but there is the uh, the escalation recently with it wrong. there was a continuing situation between israel has the law that these board, you have to both see movement. you have the voltage of the highest of shop to militias in rock. you're not going to get a copy of the region wildly stubs on that you cannot really bring those to a call. if you are willing to read it to that calculation, these right prime minister, he's also off doing publications in the west bank and east jerusalem. so it's
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a change that yeah, the probably base the blindly ministration. it all comes back to that was getting this wrong. pre ok, so the step they were on this fairy tale vision. the. this is the, this is jake. some of this is the quietest period in the middle east that we can just clint biology rating our students. it direction. that's not the case. the power of the have a lot. i think it's been to that great cost and different what a change in 10 are in the world. want to thank you for your candor. daniel. thank you. daniel levy, president of the us middle east project and former advisor to be, is really government, really appreciate you joining us. thank you state. so what's the bottom line? doesn't it seem like president biden is running for election against is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu, rather than against donald trump. at least that's how it's often framed in the media. biden's and netanyahu spades are on
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a collision course with netanyahu currently commanding the scene extending the conflict and attacking rasa. which bite has been telling him not to do for the past 3 months. but binding has been. busy words and no action. occasional expressions of concern about the death of innocent people in gaza with 0 distance between israel in the us. there had been some bumps on the road, but as long as saying notice the spires keeps netanyahu in office. us will fret and complain, but continue supporting israel's course in gaza and the west bank. the crimes we've all been witnessing, we'll continue. and that sadly, is the bottom line the to interrogate the narrative is the u. s. has continued support for israel affecting it's global standing. there's no question about it. the united states is effectively complicit to the genocide challenge the rhetoric. yes,
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they look that correct, but so is the international community. can we also say that dells? the cornerstone of democracy is having a free and open democratic pro upfront without examining dean. today's headlines. i wish i had word word to describe what setting the agenda for tomorrow's discussions right now. if you're on campus talking about the site, your being called anti semitic, and a supporter of care international filmmakers and will cross journalist bring programs to enforce and inspired to options await us in the immediate future by the prices for climate revolution. on alger 0 hod huge, i mean to be used as the i, r c suffered casualties. we have not something to say, tyler sees thank goodness we did have injuries from a missile strike on a guest house. thought provoking on to who that you say know,
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double standards to all of us. any anyone in particular? i said, all facing realities, government seems here to whittle down democracy. if this is troubling for you, it's very, very painful via the story on talk to how does era brian pass up on? one says it's too soon to know if this new currency, the ball we called was big, will make a difference to his daddy like, like millions of other people living in a country with one of the highest deflation rates in the world. he wants to bobby's economy to improve physics, replace this and bobby, and donna and his back by gold reserves and foreign cars. commodities such as inputs you tease, rent and fuel a paid with us dollars. that means and bobby, and still have to change the zig a subpoena or a little money changes operating without a license undermining the current government. he does want people to change their money back and not many here. haven't seen the zip notes yet.
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people are buying and selling mainly in us dollars. they say over the years is be more stable. that's always money. to use the currency, doesn't these value rapid clicks change? take them into the 31, palestinians are killed and is riley attack on the album. is there is refugee camp and central golf. it'd be injured a rush to the over bed and the l. x. the hospital cracks and israel's will cabinet senior minister penny guns threatens to resign unless the government presents a post war spouse g for golf. at the i my name site is valid, is there a life from debt? what's the.

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