yes, to this deal and, and any, any rough operation is real can, can continue the negotiation right? to, to amend the deal or is real can say no. and presumably then launch a full blown russell operation. is there any of those scenarios that seems more plausible to you at this hour? it's very hard to tell because it really depends on to see 4 be but. ready but then yeah, why and he's extreme right wing goes say they bought the scene in the court issue. rough eyes on the tank, but they, they pretend disease, they continue the preparations for. we'd be obviously a catastrophe saying, you know, we'd be all sort of best or fee, but if he stays years, she means no rough i. you pay the day before. and therefore it's really a very crazy kind of the moment. i don't see you can postpone it anymore because

sing so very to you know, what, how we use michael's full his know with how much was so clear what i need to answer . it is right in the very, very embarrassing point. who is going to decide this? you said it's just a few voices in the room. who are the voices? no, no it's. it's one person. this is benjamin to video and he has to be side. what does he pretty fair. the government continue to spain, power. god knows what for a well go on taking a brain decision saying yes. so the dean releasing doors to address booking and for the small which they will do every single please read it for sure. the videos and try to create a new reality in gaza. betsy's choice, knowing she he would not say she was the back door. get in as i listen to you. it is. it's,

it's only just dawning on me how much hangs on the decision that will be made. and that will be taken by benjamin that, you know, i mean you, everywhere you look, this could be a game changer, obviously for him personally and for his political future end of the future. leadership of, of israel. first and foremost of the millions of palestinians in gaza. want the end to war, $34000.00 have been killed for the hundreds of thousands, specifically who are in eastern run for right now, and who have been told to evacuate for joe biden himself, the us president, was 6 months ahead. 6 months out of a very tough re election baffled. i mean, this could be monumental. this is one of your majorly dues as possible to use the diesel. and we've been germany anyhow. we just point it or, i mean it is, it wouldn't be really eh, i versus the mistake you face or say no, no, you know, i guess the bolts of your a bolt,

a human being named guys. so those people who believe this is around the corner on a piece of a cease fire and, and pull this up for this sort of also some of the things you know, we have to take them into account as when, when i hear the different guys uh, hippie, even for a few minutes it's a for said been is the fake. happiness is moments of happiness. they deserve it so much those be but it is right. sure. thing. the challenge, take the risk and get it courageous in decision to book the go to be for because this was for the day one is a terrible or was it very cool? and brother was, which doesn't serve is right, locally damages and cues, gusta, but doesn't assume its way to sort of get, you know, before. nothing is what it is to be either much was position then or the 6 of

october. i get in. libby a columnist, it is really newspaper. all right, thank you so much for joining us. thank you. of so the deputy head of home us and guys are highly ohio has detailed the stages of the ceasefire proposal that i'm us has agreed to listen to this set up for the proposal includes 3 stages each stage lasting $42.00 days are the essential aim of the proposal is a permanency is flowed into complete withdrawal from the gaza strip on the return of the displaced i. but i'm on. what about the sort of the present? a swamp will take place in 3 phases. phase one will include the exchange of civilians. the remaining is really women and still has a captive in gaza. and these really female soldiers and the children under 19 years old and it also includes b as in the above 50 years old, on the sick. and we need to determine always sick. both thing is really prisons and among the captives in gaza. you're watching out a 0. my name is nate barker,

i'm following on from serial viney. i only developments that are being on folding in the middle east regarding a mass is apparent agreements or but it will accept the terms of a ceasefire proposal. we started to get more details about that as the sort of course in gaza. proposal put forward by class on egypt. well, earlier there was things of jubilation across the strip as posted into the news that her mouth had indeed accepted, not cease for ideal. wow. my says bull is now in israel's course is ready. media is reporting that the country's negotiating team is reviewing. the proposal will soon issue an official response. israel has threatened to carry out and offensive and gaza southern most city rafa. and just to area on monday issued a warning, forcing thousands of palestinians to flee parts of the city. let's go to where i

will, if this matters most to rough or target using is the, with the reaction of people. uh, topic of course seems of jubilation. give us a sense of how people are reacting to this news, given that this is only essentially half the story. we wait to hear, of course, where the israel will agree to a yes knave. in fact. so since the 1st moments with palestinians and rough, i've just heard the news about the approval that had been issued and released by how my sides to the ceasefire agreement, palestinians this talk to, to celebrate re joey some. there was a great sense of joy among zeus displaced people who have completely seen that this is a significant step being taken in order to end the fighting on the ground. now they have been set up writing trumpeting slogans of time that it's time right now for a ceasefire as now. those people have finished their own set of patients now

waiting for the confirmation on the approval of the east. really side regarding the step that has been presented by how my sides and under the supervision on the mountain prussia being practiced and exhausted by the american administration. and regional majors who were working tirelessly in the course of the past period to bridge the gaps of disagreement between our mazda and is well now people previously have been experiencing multiple sally is regarding the, the efforts being made to get to aspire. but this john, this is the 1st ever that thomas has been accepting the proposal that has been initiated by the egyptian intelligence on, by the regional medea is now completely, people are waiting for the confirmation from the eastern side. they believe that now there is the quotes of the is very government, which now is facing mounting pressure from the is, are, is ready, civil upfront and the families of cap says, who are right now holding for the return of their loved ones from the gods,

which are from the hands of mazda as well, where the ceasefire agreement is distressing. 13 phases in which they will guarantee the full is really withdrawal and from the gaza strip. very heavy restoration of the cap serves under the same time full succession of hold. the military offensive on the gaza strip. now there is a great deal of optimism among palestinians who are completely hopeful that they were going to be for sampled announcements for the ceasefire within the common dollars. or i lived for us in rough a topic. i was a many things so that so thank you. okay. well, uh, as i mentioned there were learning some more information about the contents of the deal. terika shed, some of those details. the odyssey spot proposal includes 3 phases, each lasting $42.00 days. the 1st phase of the deal increased providing passage for

displace palestinians to return to their homes. the 2nd phase of the deal includes the withdrawal. all of this ready troops on the announcement of a permanent end to is really military operations within that fluid phase. there's also a provision on ending the blockade on the gaza strip. okay, well let's go now to the occupied westbank and no, it's a political analysts joining us live from ramallah. i know we of course have to issue something of a health warning when it comes to this announcement by him ask that they've accepted the terms of the ceasefire proposal we have seen and i'm sure you've seen it as well. those scenes of jubilation in gaza always saying anything but echoes. that's where you are. i think there's a lot of cautious optimism here in the west bank. people waiting on pins and

needles to hear back from israel after ham us through the square curve ball. if you will, in natania who's quarter and they want to see what will come out of tel aviv, is this going to be for real? will this cease fire materialize? a lot of hope is heading on that and people fear of those, you know, last hours, if you will, or last minutes carry a lot of risk, a different what we know about his ro, how israel is offer a said throughout this conflict. how optimistic, how doubtful all you personally, given your observations over the past many months since the conflict began as to what this all means, what the response may be from television. i think it's difficult to predict because the, you know, nothing you know, is in a bind right now. and there's a lot of pressure that's coming to bear from the bite and administration. although we have to caution, i think the viewers that bite and applies pressure,

but only so much on israel. so, you know, the feeling is that he will find a way to kind of wiggle, nothing, you know, out of a difficult spot. if he, if he needs to, but there's a lot riding on the ceasefire, not just for palestinians, not just for his release, but also for the, the bite and administration which needs call him right now to kind of get his house in order in preparation for the democratic convention, so i am cautiously optimistic, although, you know, as you've been reporting there are, there's a lot riding for nothing. yeah. who, personally, he has to think about his coalition. he has to think about how this is going to look and whether he can survive it. and i think it will come down to a realization that no matter what happens, nothing. yeah. who will not survive this war just like many political figures, wallet, and that a deal right now will save lives on both sides and it is really urgently need and

nobody will, it saves lives, of course. but it would also lead to the freedom of many people who some of the costs are being held without charge detains many of them youngsters, health. and is there a, the facilities according to what we know, at least of the phased different stages of this proposal is that, well, it will also include the release of not only captives and gaza, but also many, many prisoners. and they all keep pod west by what would it mean to see that happen? we're talking about a substantial number of people in the thousands potentially being released is right . but we heard from hell us saying that they agreed to lower the number that they had initially asked for in return for the release of the captives. and the 1st phase, at least 30 threes rarely kept as an exchange for 30 a for each is really civilian captive and 50 for each female soldier. but those

will include, as you said, political figures, high profile, palestinian political figures from all factions that will have. and then, you know, a very powerful impact not just on the paralyzed political life in palestine, but on the credit billet e and popularity of him us as well. the fact that it would be able to secure their release. we don't know yet how they would be released, where to they would be released. there were some reports that they might have to accept being in exile or going to gaza in order to secure their freedom. those details are still not clear, regardless of what happens. securing the freedom of people who have been imprisoned for decades. a high profile leaders figures who have a lot of impact and significance for palestinians will change the dynamic of palestinian politics. and i think it will position him us in a much more comfortable situation when it has to have that tough conversations that

will secure the 3rd phase. because we have to remember that this is a 3 phase agreement. the 1st one is pretty much i round out, the 2nd one will require negotiations, but the 3rd one is about reconstruction. and we're still hearing from the american administration that there will be no talking with him us. there will be no dealing with him, us or palestinian agreement has to be reached about the day after in order to make that 3rd phase possible and, and positioning how often that positive light, if you will, with securing the release of those prisoners potential, really including someone like, might want to be able to browse would go a long way to making those conversations a lot more. com. no, no. i wonder if you can give us a bit more details about tomorrow on bogu t, because he is often being described as a potential palestinian leader in waiting, a high profile person behind boss who could well be

a very important figure. if indeed he is released. what might one was a popular parliamentarian effect, the figure he was detained in the is really invasion of the west back in 2002 in april of 2002. so 22 years ago he has remained a symbol of national unity. he was born of the main protagonist of a national document called the national unity document that was produced in 2005, which leaders inside the prison had hoped, would get for the have him, us to act more in unison to elite a government together. it, those efforts didn't work, but the status of mud one, but it will be as a symbol of national unity as a fact. actually there is a time us can trust and talk to remains. the polls suggest that he is extremely popular in the west bank. he hails from

a small village near my law. he is respected in garza as well. so we'll see if and when his freedom is secured. whether he can take the home, if you will, or take the role expected or envisioned for him. but due to all those polls, given the significance, the scale, all of these laces developments, why are we not seeing immediate responses from the policy and it will start to where you are to this announcement by i'm us as well. we heard, we saw a statement from the palestinian presidency will coming in agreement. although we have to again remind viewers that an agreement if it has not been announced yet. we have to still hear what the is really government response is. but the palestinian authority isn't in a very uncomfortable position as it is sitting on the sidelines. it's not involved in the negotiated negotiations. nobody's really asking for their involvement or opinion. and they have very little effect on what can transpire in terms of outcome

of negotiations. so you know, the events, the outcome of those negotiations, the cease fire agreement diminishes the already we can position of the palestinian authority. so no one would understand why they're kind of staying in the background . while those of this news comes, uh, you know, comes out. yeah. exactly, an awful lot of details still need clarifying, still need. i think i have no day and romano. how many? thanks for joining us. thanks for your input. okay, well look, joining me in the studio now is the time of our communities, the assistant professor of public policy that the highest chief of graduate studies at time a little. this is evolving rather quickly, isn't it? let me start by asking you this. how is it possible for us to square the scenes of jubilation that we're seeing on the streets of rafa another positive, gaza with the approach silence coming from his way. um and

if i mean, okay, so guidance of so the splits the sports, i mean and for them and, and for is ultimate goal. i mean, and that, that, and for that homes and for from the thousands the been kicked out of the, one of these really is i think uh, i mean i get into so many unknowns and sustains and, and we don't know what's the, what's, what's the find that outcome fits because of the lack of the details, but the way it was to be present at the time as spokesman has laid the 3 stages out of it. i think if this one, this deal picks off, then this leaves us up when we pick up a political best. and that's the most important thing. because we're, when we're talking about the for the then an end to look at the gather slip. this means that there is an explicit superposition by the us and is an undeniable, the thomas is a key, political party,

political force and the pursuit of society. and they have to engage with it simply people that they've been seems like they did with the funeral, which was a sponge, any move in. and that was, and eventually that each piece agreement, which was also with all, that's what we know about also. so, but for me, i mean, as i see it now, i think the sol exhibit the differences in the details. went up out those uh, we're looking at the media the results of, of, of any possible indeed now, which is the, as the end of the fight thing, you know, what are the single captives. but when we talk about the for the. busy ending of the okay and the reconstruction because of this, it brings me to the big question on the americas of there's a, there's some committed to the keyboard which is stopping down of how much is governance and gaza. that's, that is yes. then i think the suggest buying thought, i mean, would not see it. it's like, i mean what, what do you so she, you finally said in these proposal last huge issues. she mentioned that the end of

the authority brocade of goes up to 17 years. so it is very, very difficult to imagine that being immediately agreed to without any kind of pushback from the sort of the cycle. so the same time this crucial point, the, the, the commitment to a permanent end, to the conflict read, that would be a huge 1. 180 degrees screeching you to if a bunch of in that you know, i was to agree to 100 percent. and of course that's a lot of thing to do. i mean for the students deserve independence state. they deserve to be free. does have the zip to beautiful select it to be part of a good. it's upfront, it's done and i think it was the west bank, but again, i don't see this. i don't see us close to this because the americans on the 30th. uh yes, the nothing affected as big these ladies by logs of the pro war. uh, i think the board is in the middle and of course again, it's between by then and let them know this time. if it's by then managers to squeeze up in the, at the end to accept this, i think that is

a way footboard. if not, then again, it's just wasting time uh this, this route might succeed. it might, it might go. busy with the 1st stage of the, the succeeding, then the 2nd and 3rd, again, same thing. so there's somebody on those unknowns in this book. you know, if the americans have a, when particulars americans of the west of the community keeps freshening, isabel, we might see a break through. let's hope it works because this genocide level has to end. but as soon as they have to be, see that this independence states and the fates, so he was price, i mean for, for this so many other names. so many hurdles time a great day. you will thoughts? okay, well uh, the white house national security council spokesman confirmed to us is company reviewing them us response instead of reaching a deal is the best possible outcome is currently reviewing that response and discussing it with our partners in the region. director burns, as you know, is there and he's working this in real time on the ground. i won't be able to

comment any further on this until we know where things stand. i hope you can understand that. i know everybody's curious about what's in this response with these really reaction to to it is just not going to get ahead of the process. we want to get these hostages out. we want to get a ceasefire in place for 6 weeks. we want to increase manager and assistance, and the last thing that i want to do is say anything of this podium that's going to put that process at risk. regardless, as we said before, we still believe that reaching agreement is the absolute best outcome. not only for the hostages, but for the palestinian people, and we're not gonna stop working to that out. okay, well that's a good idea of america. edited james bases in a business capital, london and james, how to pronounce reacting to illness? well, i think there's a great deal of caution that you'll hear in the caution there in the voice of john cubby speaking at the white house. but i think of the capitals. it's a similar situation. i've been gauging regardless of the temperature on this in the

last few days. in fact, i'm in london now, but i came back a few days ago from new york when i was speaking to a senior diplomats done by citizen over telling me they thought that this was going to come to this moment. we all now, which is a knife edge situation of all you got a rough or offensive, or a new cx, 5 deal. and clearly the bowl is very much in these, right? the cold as was i think, breaking down what john cubby said, that because it's the position of all of the international community. they are all saying that they should be a see saw which of course from us has accepted. we don't know the exact language and the exact details of the version that have us as a, as a get accepted. and they say that should be no rough offensive. now, that is the positional pool of the members of the international community. with the exception of israel, it seems. remember the central position of the un general assembly, the un security council, it came up with a resolution back in march resolution 2728, which said that that should be

a last thing sustainable. see spot taxis, international law, that's the position of the international community. you've got mean, special court of justice has come. come up with 2 different rulings saying that there should be a much more humanitarian aid. a going into garza and i can tell you the bright now in new york about 25 minutes ago. the web security council started meeting again and the talking about another resolution, which would add to what we've already got, but would say that they should be no displacement of palestinians, no rough or offensive. and that is now all the positions of the united states as well. so i think all of this puts a great deal of pressure on the nets and yahoo government, at this stage, which i think is going to face slips, whatever it decides is a james given your experience of how diplomatically things were the choreography of deals like this it previously when that has been a breakthrough, when proposals are being accepted by israel and her mice to release captives to

release prison is the announcement tends to be made by for instance, one of the chief negotiate isn't that the kids are a foreign ministry. what does it mean for him asked to be analysing all of this, unilaterally? what should we read into that? do you think what i think they deliberately, i think, felt that this, the, they felt that this timing, this, at this time would have a great impact. and i think it has had a great impact. i think you're seeing some turmoil already in tel aviv and jerusalem on what to do and how to respond to this at this time. yes. what do you think is interesting of these talks have taken place sometimes in colorado, sometimes indo ha, very senior officials are involved the intelligence chief of egypt, the prime minister of cuts off the head of the c. i a but it's been going on for such a long time, back and forth with people tweeting different parts of the deal that i think there are lots of different versions of, of, of, of, of solutions around we know,

the central planet of this. we know the timeframe of it says 6 phase, a phased as a c spot with 6 weeks blocks. but exactly the details. i think the devil isn't the detail of but i think now that you've got how my 2nd bill except a sea salt water, have a version of the ceasefire. it is, it puts israel under such internal pressure at this moment. or i james many thanks to that james base life for us in london to okay. well people have taken to the streets in tel aviv. so do you mind doing a cease fire? pulling him asked his acceptance of a see saw proposal before by egypt and catholic families of the captives and gaza. say these right, the government must show that commitment to its citizens. accept the deal and get the counselors who you say the prime minister's office has just released the statement also reacting to her master's response and also saying will cabinet

unanimously decided that israel will continue the operation. and rafa to exec, military pressure on how mass will the mass proposal is fall from israel is necessary requirements. israel will send a delegation of working class mediators to exhaust the possibility of reaching an agreement on the conditions acceptable to israel. okay, well a reminder to our view is the israel have shuts down. i would just say was operations that we are reporting from outside israel. them how much jump june is now live for us in amman, mohammed, i'm, let's on pack this statement so we know that the cabinet office has match. we know that they appear committed to this assault or rough, or do we have then our own. so to what israel, thanks to the slightest proposal, to me this very much seems like a sort of

a holding pattern and response. because israel is under a lot of pressure right now. prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and his real is under a lot of pressure, especially from his biggest ally, the united states. he's under pressure from also the societal pressure there. those, those demonstrators that we were talking about just a moment ago that are in the streets right now. as well as from his far right wing, members of his coalition, people like it's more been v or who is still pushing for a hop ration even before this response that you just read out a moment ago. you had a couple of hours ago. it's more been very far right wing national security minister, and he put on x that how much is exercises in games have only one answer, an immediate order to occupy profile. that's consistent with the rhetoric we've heard from been given here for months now. he's been urging the prime minister to go into it off and on many occasions he's threatened that he would walk away from the coalition and essentially collapse that then. yeah. who is government?

if the, the prime minister doesn't follow through with that. so, so right now you have a situation where essentially, if this turns out to be the case, it is real is sort of having it both ways. they're saying that they will send a delegation to cairo because up until now they had refused to do so unless and until they had gotten what they considered to be a positive response from us. and at the same time, they say they're still going to go into that. but now when you break that down a little bit more, that's and you know, who has been staying on almost a daily basis for months. that he is going to go into the fire that, that is imminent, that that would happen with or without a ceasefire. so in one sense, it's not really very different from what we've heard from him leading up to this point. but on the other hand, what's different is that they are saying that they are going to send a delegation to cairo. and that is something that would satisfy the demands of people in the opposition. like yeah, your la pete. he's the opposition leader in cairo. and just a couple of hours ago,

he put a statement on x, in which he urge the prime minister to go ahead and send a delegation to cairo because it was about most important to do whatever was possible to get those captives that are being held in gaza back to israel. so it's a very murky picture in israel right now. i think the response that we're seeing really just goes to show how much pressure is real is under. and how much pressure specifically that's in yahoo is under, right. this is something that perhaps is calculated to satisfy both wings of the political space. yeah, it is a very, very interesting calculation, isn't a give. so as you mentioned, there really indication of the kind of impulse is the kind of pressure cooker the is there any government who really is at the moment on the one hand pushing all.