balance is an arduous process, requiring multiple signatures, expenditures, or money meeting, certain deadlines and so forth. so whether kennedy qualified to appear on all of those state ballads remains to be seen. rob reynolds, l, just your california. what's being called one of the most restrictive social media buttons for mine, as in the united states, has been signed into law in florida. under new rules, social media accounts for children under 4514, and 15 year olds require a parental consent to use the platforms fraud as governor rum desantis says the lawyer will protect miners. he says though he expects legal challenges for david green is a civil liberties director, the electronic frontier foundation. he says the bill is a threat to free speech that's enshrined in the us constitution. there are 2 main 1st amendment arguments i expect that will be made uh,

one would be based on the 1st amendment rights of minors to receive information and to communicate the social media platforms. under us law miners do have 1st amendment rights and they have them even independent of their children. and so that's one argument that can be made. this law certainly does a bridge their rights. and i don't think the state would deny that. the 2nd argument that could be made, the 2nd free speech argument that could be made as well, would be on behalf of adult users who, who believe that or who will find that this law will effectively require social media platforms to verify the age of users and will not allow for social media platforms to offer services, anyone unless they know they are of sufficient age to do so. and so therefore we'll have to ask everyone for their age. and so adult users who wants to be able to use

the sites without proving their identity or, or sending private information to these companies, will have arguments also that the, that this law infringes their rights, even though the lawn doesn't title them. it doesn't restrict their ability to have accounts, but it does in effect create a burden on them to identify themselves and prove the rates to do so. okay, well that's it for me down jordan. so now when quicker mind that you can find much more information on our website, i'll just here and i'll come there. what is the news continues here now just so you're off to the bottom line spectrum, and thanks for watching bye. for now, the a pod huge, i mean to be used as the oil see suffered casualties. we have not suffered to stay, tyler, to use. thank goodness we did have injuries from a missile strike on a guest house. thought provoking on to who they to say know,

double standards to all of us any, any one in particular i said to facing realities. government seems here to whittle down democracy. if this is troubling for you, it's very, very painful here. the story on talk to how does era hi, i'm steve clements and i have a couple of questions. this is where you will need the us to force it to stop the war in gaza. and why is it the us doing anything to end it? let's get to the bottom line for almost half a year. israel has argue that it once told him victory in gaza, although no one knows exactly what that looks like. so every day that is real tries to achieve its victory. hundreds more palestinians are killed, maimed or buried under rubble, with no end in sight, whether in the gaza strip or the west bank. meanwhile, the united states and its allies continue to supply weapons without conditions ensuring there is no permanency expire. at the same time, the us has submitted a draft resolution to the un security council that calls for an immediate cease

fire and gaza. that's tied to the release of hostages held by him off. so what's the in game for the us in the middle east? where does washington want the conflict to really go and what risk proposed by president joe biden strategy? today we're talking with university of pennsylvania political scientist, i enlisted author of several books on the palestine. israel conflict most recently . paradigm last from 2 state solution to one state reality. and in ramallah, dr. mustafah bart duty founder of the palestinian national initiative. let me start with you and thank you so much for joining us. look, you've been writing a little bit that we've danced this dance many, many times that we've seen conflicts between israel and palestine. and there was an agent that was involved in bringing this to close. tell us what the history of conflict has required in the past, the ended, and what's happening now. we're asking about the world, how come this war has been going on for months and months without the united states

stopping it? every other is reality. war starting even as bar back is 1948. i was stopped by great power intervention after the starting and 56 by american intervention after a very short time, a couple weeks, a couple of months or or so. why this time? is it taking so long? what is it important to know? is it none of israel's wars end because it's war aims are achieved? that's because the warnings are fundamentally political and the military cannot achieve them. the government can't admit that. so it needs the outside world, specifically the united states to stop the war. united states has not turned down the red light this time in every other conflict. it's taking up a couple weeks or a month with united states to do that. that's why this war has going on as long as it as, and it will. and when the united states turns on the red light and it will end until then. so we stop up, you know,

i find this to be an interesting moment. where if you look at the past and you and i have talked about this many times, one of the most key shade over used frames made by presidents and secretaries of state. and the past is that we in america can't want piece more than they do. is that really the case? don't we need to want piece more than the players in this conflict? no, no, no, i absolutely disagree with that. i think it's just one way of from the sides of the american, an official as to what i know. we have some deb responsibility at, but there are few corrections to make here about what was said, touch the one. i don't like the word conflict it. it to tries to present the situation as if it's 2 sides. what equally didn't the fighting over a piece of land and the the don't know how to stop the site. not to. this is

a 2nd of people who are under to patient people who are being a breast since 1948 to the worst form of ethnic cleansing towards the forcing 70 percent of them to become refugees. it's a struggle of people, i guess, a set lot of colonial projects which was initiated by as though and took away people's land or press them, made them. but if you jeez, now continues to come down. there is an early establishment and that includes not only not 10 year old, but also one that needs the guidance and all the is that a new position that don't belong to give any part of those? palestine to understand, you know, they want all of the land for themselves and they don't accept 2 state solution and they don't accept one state solution, which would be a one democratic stand. so what does that solution exactly what they are trying to do now in does that, which is ethnic cleansing, that is the key of the situation today. the united states of america as being supportive and visitor it mand some vegetable protests against isn't really

something that's about the nothing to stop set them and spending, which killed the possibility of the 2 state solution and create a new political power. and is it or a fascist, by hidden by smoking as i'm being viewed who are not controlling there? is there any government you have more than 31000 people that 100000 people injured infrastructure wiped out? i mean, i'm just sort of sitting here and watching this play out. and i'm also watching a president of the united states, joe biden, possibly laying out the framework for losing the next race because of antipathy inside the united states about these actions or the lack of action by that, by the president. so would love to get your thoughts and respond to dr. bar goody. well, i agree with so much of what the adaptability has just said, and i think that the listener we should understand 2 large things. and uh, 2 points that i want to make. one is litters. is it?

yes, israel is certainly a creation of settler colonialism. it is a settler colony at just like it. but that's true. so many countries in the world, united states, canada, new zealand, most of bolivia, argentina, australia, canada. that is the fact that a state comes into existence because a settler colonialism is not that unusual. and usually what happens is that the indigenous populations are in the isolated or rendered politically and significant because of the demographics. but in this case, it's a very unusual case in which the indigenous population, the pallets and you know, we're not an isolated, they were a, it's land 7 150000, expelled from their homes and 1948 even more in 1967. but still they are masses of palestine, you still in palestine, in fact, there are more palestinian arrows between the river and the seed and there are jews right now. so that means that you have

a powerful state id logically saw itself the way these other states have seen themselves. but on like united states, which does not face 300000000 native americans inside and outside is borders. israel still phases the indigenous population that the seller state was set up to displace or dominate. so that's so remember that that's what makes this such an unusual situation. it's both a conflict and an example of settler colonialism and resistance. well, i 2nd the 2nd point and i want that, but i be here and i to states as supporting visitors because it sees itself and as it or by the difference is that we are, we are in the 21st century. and that is something called the national and united nations and the rest. so the here shows the law and kind of the united states does not just if, when he is in any way,

it just doesn't mean anything that absolutely is the doctor. last thing. yes, i just want to finish the 2nd point did the united states, i think you're right in the 1950s. there was a kind of 9 eve identification of pioneers with a pioneer in east austin, united states, the oklahoma kind of each as with how that seem in israel, but that is past united states is not motivated by taxes. kinds of images. what motivates american politicians? and it's true of almost every president in recent times is a desire to get this issue off their back because politically, it's so dangerous to get on the wrong side of the issue. it's the, it's like cube or the only 2 issues in united states that are driven of foreign policy issues driven by domestic political imperative, which leads america to have a policy 3 or 4 standard deviations from the rest of the world. so united states,

when it makes decisions about what to do with the middle east with this conflict is it is a great power. it, it responds to domestic political constraints. it doesn't care very much or even know very much, it doesn't care very much, let's say about what's good for palestinians are good for his realities. it's in the bottom line. what's good, politically, what same for us? and in that context, american presidents have engaged in peace processes, but not going that distance necessary to put the pressure on is real to get that kind of compromise. it could have worked with stopping or go to your a very good analyst of pastoring versus substance in my view when it comes to this conflict. and i'd love to get your take on the change language. the resolution possibility the interactions with is really prime minister netanyahu and joe biden. what do you take seriously? what do you find promising? and what do you find completely a share rate?

well, the responding to that, we have to agree about one very specific point, which is that the united states of america cannot be a mediator in this concept if you go to the concept. and this that i can, let's say, why? because the united states of america is absolutely up until 30 support to visit and it's on the la visit. oh, actually they're not to the states of america. and this last tour has not to be an only complicit with the is that i do what crimes it has become participant in the crimes not only by supply and visited with $20000.00 tons of explosives and blip on . so i took her to but also by sending me the by send it to 1000 subjects to visitors. and by sending to the advisors to the is it or it is to help them and been what for and by yeah, but disappeared. think even in the come in the visitor, the president product disappeared to the foreign minister of the survey. that 5 or 6 times the national security advisor, the defense minister,

and the secretary of defense. they all participated. so united states isn't, is the in vote, and this word could i am, that is happening again guys. i know there is a huge exposure of these world crimes. the human side, the collective punishment distribution of the people is killing people with diseases with living with farming. it's so clear. so from the, from that perspective, i think they're not just is facing huge criticism the worldwide, but also inside the united states. i think there is a huge young americans innovation that does not accept what listed by that is doing . and he is losing the elections because of that. there is also the whole out of muslim community in the united states will have become gradually a politic on boarding fellow, and that is going to affect the chances of biden. so he's trying to, i've just, but on the other hand, they tried to adjust but they continue to do the bad things. for instance,

there is allusion to do with going to present or disagree with. the concept has just changed. instead of saying, calling for us as i am now, they say the new language says it is imperative to have a cease fire. this that's very big difference. but i'm calling for that to lucy's fire. if the united states was really serious, big couldn't force, is there any immediate need to have a cease fire? they put the lizard, we would have been told on kinds of military supplies do it when they put them is and we were starting to finance financing. do more and they put the lizard and we started the sanctions. if you don't stop southern meant activities, but they're not going to do any of that. that is the problem. and, and that is very entity. but in the face of the oil change, the hood hood is changing. there is a whole lot of evaluation against this aggression on the steering and people that guess these were the crimes that nobody can tolerate. and there is a change inside that that states and what makes me really very,

especially especially a proud of the change is that even the young jewish community is changing. and many of the jewish activists out of been most anything good support of by this time, and then supportive justice. we live in the 21st century. it's not, it's not the 12 century or the 10th century. and that's why i think what we see here is us, but i mean not only about 1500 bytes, but above the principle of civilization. the principle of that i took people to live according to international law. another demo of junction which is that our end is imposing right. either go ahead i, unless thank you very important to note that he has is correct. there is a split in a jewish community in united states. there has been for a long time, but it's accelerating and is, was just said, the younger generation of jews, especially as fired by liberal values, is outraged by what's going on. disgusted by what israel and american foreign policy is done. i think what i understand inside the administration, there's also

a struggle going on. and then ultimately when united states turns out in the red light and i agree completely, that has the capacity to do that. it will be the result of who wins in the battle inside the administration to try to convince vitamin that his own way of dealing with israel is got to completely change it is changing, but not very fast. and it's that battle inside the administration and inside the democrat, a party that seems like it will be decisive to decide when the war and so i and i elastic. when does the red light come on? if you look at young voters in this country, in many key states and particularly michigan, minnesota, others, they're, they're saying they do not like what present biden's foreign policy is his, his close proximity to israel, a prime minister netanyahu in this conflict. and you see this coming on, and you see now 100 major democratic donors sent

a letter to president biden and saying you got a change course, or you may lose the selection. so i'm, if you, it's rare, i gotta tell people, it's rare that a foreign policy issue matters in the us presidential election. it's usually kitchen table economics. but this is the 1st time where you're actually seeing the black community. some parts of the black community also become ambivalent about the president right now, because the see this conflict as a social justice issue, which reflects on them as well. so i'm just wondering when does the read like, from your experience and looking at the history of these? shouldn't the red lights have already come on? i guess that's my bottom line question. absolutely. i mean, natalie shouldn't even come on from a moral point of view from a foreign policy point of view, but it shouldn't even come on from the domestic political interest a president by and, and what usually does the trigger that red light is a judgment that the domestic political situation allows that light to go

on either because you can justify going against these real lobby because you don't want to a consultation with the soviet union or with another great part of some kind of cuban missile crisis. or because as of the humanitarian catastrophe, what it seems to me is that president biden on this issue is a slow learner. and he is learning. and i think that the issue is you point out, the pressure is inside the democratic party, the threat to his re election of probable energy or possibilities that will be the determining factors that will turn him toward the switching on the red light. and that, by the way, is a metaphor that is used for almost the end of almost every one of those rules. wars, if you look at the scholarly literature on how these wars and dr. bar cody, i'd love to get from you the temperature inside palestine. the west bank, the ruling coalition. there you have for years basically miraculously kept your

independence politically from the various factions. but you comment on them. we recently saw in march 15 spot to issuing a condemnation upon us for being responsible, essentially for the destruction of gaza, as opposed to looking at israel for the destruction of gaza. what's going on among the factions and what prospect is there for any sort of consensus? on really the future of palestinian governance in this after this equation is in dealing with things now and tomorrow. i know that you say we can't just talk about tomorrow. people are dying today. i get that. but i just want to know, as you look at the equation is coming together, are you seeing players actually creating an impossibility of a consensus coming together? that's a great question. and actually it's a list of the united states as well. but uh, let me explain. uh, we just had a very good meeting in moscow where i, my sense, or sort of the tense time media to between our mazda and center,

and the rest of the community to which, if anybody agreed about all the 14 for the senior political forces. we had the very good community care which said that the only 5 cars have to input the l. o. and we have a unified understanding and do that. should that meant then into that i to the listing and people to present themselves. and the we agreed about the goals at the end of the, or the humanitarian assistance preventing any kinds of expands, you know, the student population. and it's mcclin's ink. and the can't think about this as of yet, is that a month? so now we agreed to continue the meetings to proceed. unfortunately, the president went on on the appointed prime minister without any consultation with any of the listing and put it to kind of groups which created a new list. the statement to a mentioned by 5 to which uh, in my opinion was the appropriate uh, was you get to buy some of the members of the sentiment comment to accept that we were told did they called us and told us that this communicate does not to visit

completely and that the many members of the sent that have gone into effect that which is the highest oregon there. do not agree with it. and that leads me to the issue of the states, because you see the united states is pressuring for the quarter. the 4 megs, the police didn't handle authority and by the revitalization of the signal, it's sort of done by that. they mean only that the security ties independence to handle to, to do making model for us, acute it destructions, etc, is it is interest. and that lies behind the statement of mr. by didn't. when he said president by didn't, when he said that, i need to understand what sort of doing government has to be acceptable to. is it or he what does say that any government and is ready to be acceptable to buy the stadiums, of course. so the american approach to the you might sell as ition is only about security. and that's what it is. the question, why in every other country, whether you talk about said of b, r, ukrainian, or russian of china or any other country. the united states speaks about democracy,

about democratic elections. that items the people to choose democratic glance. really their lead does accept and punished by the opposing our election or opposing the democratic reform, which would make the policy number 30 to accept oven by the palestinian people before it is accepted by is 0. and that's the, the, the issue we are talking about here. what we want is our national consensus, the government accepted by anybody that is entered in so that it wasn't prepared for the city of democratic elections, which allows us to use the tools that need those freely and democratically like other democratic countries. that's what we need. the democratic structure, that's what it presents, the police didn't, and people, and their aspiration, but the against democracy, united states, unfortunately, was against the right sort having for the democratic elections. and that's literally c. i'm not going to get the aspect of the americans told us what an

interesting inflection point that would be dr. less that going to give you the last word. but in this, i also want to ask you, you said something has been hanging in my mind during the show, which is you talked about the israel palestine, you know, a piece industry if you will, the, the, you know, the, the surprises in this. yeah. the piece process industry, i've always been interested in what would finally put that piece, process industry out of business and, and get to us and a new week librium along the lines of what we saw for just talked about. but as you give us the last word i loved to hear what you, what you think is needed for that industry process instead of the solution. yeah, by the instead of the solution in that industry is focused on the idea of a negotiated settlement between 2 sides and this, there's this, the west banking guys are outside of his real. but israel has already of your really treated the west bank and gaza as part of the country. and that's why it's important to remember the president biden's official policy is that the united

states is committed to any to the palestinians. and as well as having equal rights to equality, disney, democracy, and security. and that if the 2 state solution can be achieved through negotiations, which it cannot be, we have to return to the theme of the quality, enter the gradual democratization of the one state that exists between the river and the sea. and that is a project that the peace process industry doesn't really can't, can't make money, or they can't make money out of the idea that if we don't uh, have negotiations soon, it will be too late. it'll be too late. it'll be too late, which they've been saying from 40 years. right? well we have to do see is, is a long struggle over democracy in united states has to reorient itself in that way . seeing this is a domestic issue and, and that will be good for palestinians because they can get equal rights and sumo

right. and be able to stay in the country while regrettably, i need to leave it there. i'd like to have it half hour more with both of you. a great conversation professor, i enlisted professor of middle eastern politics at the university of pennsylvania and my friend doctor, we stop of our duty founder of the palestinian national initiative. thank you so much for being with us today. my pleasure. thanks dentist here. so what's the bottom line? whenever of a topic of palestinians and israelis comes up, american officials loved to say, oh well, we can't want peace more than they do. oh, really? i, for one don't buy this cliche. there are serious reasons why palestine and israel may never come to terms with each other in a stable, in and eventually a peaceful way. but that's exactly why 3rd parties are essential to buffer between them to act when there are injustice as the victims on either side. one of those key parties is the united states, whether it likes it or not. the us needs to demand peace more than is real and how most once i have peace, it has to demand justice and show genuine concern for both sides of the conflict.

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