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means like wheat and corn, also called maize, are heavily dependent on those fertilizers. you look at corn and wheat, specifically the 2 categories have been hit the most by the russia, ukraine war. and those are even yes, perfect star. those are even more important fertilizers, 35 percent of the cash fossil producing those, the result higher food prices and less profit for farmers. so the farmer sometimes can't pass the costs on to the consumer. they have to eat the cost of that rise in the fertilizer cost. the agriculture industry and its scientific partners are usually quick to adapt to change whether it be new consumer demands, new technology or supply challenges. already, scientists in california are working on trapping nitrogen for fertilizer, from earth's atmosphere itself. rob reynolds al jazeera to larry california. ah,
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so this is our desert. these are the top stories i didn't took a, the education of nearly 4000000 children. an earthquake affected areas is facing major disruption. schools and universities a close with many damaged in others, turned into shelters. dozens of building contractors and turkey are under investigation following last week to have quakes. critics, a greed and a lack of government oversight caused the collapse of thousands of older apartment bluffs. aid is starting to reach rebel health areas in northern syria. after the reopening of border crossing, i twisted emergency teams have criticize the slow response to the disaster. mazili on the lower liz since day one our teams have been keener responding to help our people, especially in the displacement camps that were created quickly to shelter them. again, we've distributed a number of aid kits. we've also made sure to provide water and items for sanitation and hygiene to other news. now, world leaders are meeting germany to discuss global security policies. the main topic of the music security conference will be russia's invasion of ukraine. the
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conflict has led to a change in policies across europe, including commitments to increase weapon deliveries to key 1st time rusher and iran have not been invited to the summit. we have to liberate ukraine and europe because when the russian weapon should end us, it is already pointed at our neighbors. may europe be this subject of compromise? no, we have to liberate from rogers aggressive potential potential every international institution and ever is fear of the world economy. because, because only only then there will be a chance for freedom to pass through our border further to the east. in new zealand, at least 9 people are known to have died after cycling. gabrielle struck, it's north island. please say more than 4000 people have lost contact since it hit 5 days ago. about 10000 people were forced to leave the hose,
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cities and towns on north island, still without power and drinking water. please to senegal, have fire to gas to disperse supporters of the main opposition leader was men. sancho sancho was forcibly removed from his car that after appearing in a court in the capital darker, he was attending hearings in a defamation case that had been brought against him. all right, route state headlines here. now 0. we got more news come up. right after we visit the street from the american people we've spoken, but what exactly did they say is the world looking for a whole new order with america in it? is the woke agenda on the decline in america. how much is social media companies know about you? and how easy is it to manipulate the quizzical look us politics the bottom line with welcome to the stream,
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i'm at 17. it's been 10 days since earthquakes caused catastrophic damage and northwest syria, leaving thousands dead and millions displaced homes. hospitals and roads have been destroyed, and families are grieving, loved ones, while trying to survive the aftermath themselves. today we ask, why aren't syrians getting the help they need and what can be done about it? let's start today's conversation with a video common sent to us from xena. and i believe the main reason for not getting the very much needed aids into north and syria is not the current war situation, nor the status of the border. it is mainly the lack of, with the lack of interest by them or national community to help the syrians who are living inside. i think the whole world has got used to syrians being killed for that. not to be a big and uncertainty, the bureaucrats see of the you and that doesn't take into consideration that the urgency of such a crisis. and if there was a,
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we'll have the equipment would have been passed to should, which rakish border into north to syria. thousands of life could have been shaved. but that don't happen. johnny, us to discuss from chicago doctors. i had st. louis, president of med global in amsterdam sit around casa member of the emergency support team from doctors without board. and with us from london, and even to command needs director of the syria conflict research program at the london school of economics. and of course, we want you to join the conversation as always. so be sure to share your thoughts and questions with us on youtube. docker doctor's i had, i should say, can we start just by laying out the scale, the sheer scale of this protracted conflict? and crisis thank you for having me. as everyone know, i'm probably everyone knows that syria has been going through a very painful civil war for the past 12 years. this area that was impacted
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mostly by the earthquake and northwest of syria has 4 point. 2000000 people have of them are displaced from other regions in syria. the number of ends who are impacted by their wake is close to 9000000, including 3500000 syrian refugees who live in southern dorky. many of them have been killed because of the earthquake. and do you have an area that was disconnected from the outside ward for the past 10 years or, or so, has been bomb frequently by russia. and i saw the regime, hospitals have been bomb. so hospitals are built into basements or field hospitals . they don't have enough infrastructures for cleaning of the water electricity spares. and now you have this large back to earth wake. the area in syria has not been hit with another week. and this magnet you 4 foot magnitude for the past 200 years. so you have shortage of medical supplies, you have shortage, own pants, you have now more than 50000 families will are displays suddenly,
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the weather is very cold and then you have the impact of the earthquake that will last for a few years from now. in addition, on top of that, the lack of tristan ventura community that they now have mentioned in the video. yeah, no, i appreciate you sum it up for us there. and you know, sharon, when we talk about the lack of will the lack of interests, obviously that factors in but there's also the logistics. i mean it took a 192 hours. that's 8 full days for the 1st view and convoy to enter through babble . how i mean, many would see this as a obvious and blatant failure of, of the syrian people in terms of bringing them a, where do you put the main barriers and what concerns you, most, sherwin a, it's actually the problem is that this area has been through 12 years of conflict that destroyed the health system that need to have system quite weak. and because of the consequences of the state of quick that may actually,
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the remaining has facilities are under unbearable pressure to treat this huge or massive amounts of patients coming to the city. as you said, indeed the humanitarian access, reaching no for city. i was very late, actually the city and population through the, through the tribes in east euphrates managed to send much more trucks for 8 and relief than that. you and i need national position managed to do during the last 8 days, which is mainly because of the policy of one committee and access. that is managed through a security council mechanism. and also the vulnerable and weak humanitarian situation before the conflict for us us and assess dr with our borders. we managed actually to intervene a bit quick and fast at the beginning with what we have in every project. we are
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operating like a small stop. what we call emergency preparedness, we use this immersion, emergency preparedness talk as much as we could in a way to, to deal with the 1st phase of the mass casualty plans that we were arranging that, that time. and you know, we talk about the different stages. obviously, in the immediate aftermath of any disaster that that's when 8 is needed the most. because then the problem problems as we've seen happen in syria can start to be compounding, right? we've seen color already there, and i want to ask you with all that in mind to deem i don't want to talk about the blame game per se, but, but where do you put the blame in terms of how to prevent this from continuing to happen? it seems like syrians have been very vocal online, and the arab community is online responding to that in the absence of real organisation amongst governments or the syrian government. so i think the blame is
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on the lack of political solution. the we shouldn't have been in this situation of the 1st place. i think the are the, the because there was no political solution. we ended up with syria divided to 3 different parts. and in addition to. ringback all my colleagues have mentioned about the obstacle as the logistics, then the friends i would like also to talk about different sets of reasons in north west of syria. i think the biggest issue is that there is not state and it became clear from the response of the international community that all the emergency international response is prepared. the designed around working with the state at the, at the receiving end. they come out, respond to a governor spaces or space that governed with the rebate governance. so they wanted a state, the decision maker on the other side to give access insurance, etc, etc. and that is not there in the 2nd thing also is the presence of
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a terrorist organization in this area, which is why so many donors already withdrew from this area and cut their support to pure minimum him at the i support. so they're already out of the area, not wanting to access it. and also accessing northwest, sadly, was hostage to geopolitics toward decision from different states, including turkey, which was delaying some of the decisions to access grow the country. in the government control area, there was a different problem there, there is a state, but it's, it's kind of a legitimate state and it's cut off from the rest of the world. so all the company isn't that nice community want to access. they have to really start the communications and what's happening and, and i'll and doctors, i don't look like you wanted to jump in. go ahead. yes, i mean, i agree with the many points that the team has mentioned, but people imagine that celia is one country, but it's divided 2 for parts. each one of them has their governing body. this area and north west of syria is under the control of variables. it's accessed only
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through turkey through one border crossing before this disaster. and now there is 3 border crossing. so it's an open, a air prison that has been softening for the past 12 years because of the war because of the seas. from that side, the regime, the people inside this area and see the of the receive their saw, the regime and that i show, of course, and iran as their enemies. so they will not accept any assistance even if it's offered from dice. either g is like you are giving booth and, and assistance, and giving and telling them give it to the ukrainian. so this is how the salience in that area perceived that sandra gene, it's been bombing them, non stop for the past that while years. and clearly there is lack of political will indentation committee. turkey has been very helpful before the crisis, directing old 8 across the border. but milky has to deal with that is that its own . you have more than 20000000 turkish citizens who have been affected by this areas that are in turkey. many of the roads leading to the border crossing have been
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destroyed. so what is need really is to live celia as a priority to the international community. and, you know, and they, like i said, they were saying we can sympathize with celia because it's a civil war. not now. you have an end way. now you can sympathize easily. right. and i wish we could, you know, somehow extricate the politics out of this. and actually i have facilitate the emergency aid they need, but also the more lasting aid with that in mind. and with everything you just outlined their doctors. i had, i want to share with you some thoughts that were echoed by, by missouri during that a, from a she's the senior program development officer for the white helmets who are kind of accusing by saddle. i said, specifically of manipulating this disaster. ah, for his needs take a listen. both sides shop block camille and manipulate to the international community and put a pressure on this area because it's,
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it's position load area and hypocrisy notion community that allows for a dictator and for the, for the to block this 8 even even when we have not for a disaster. so this is like a clear bullet ations and we have seen the 8 international aid guys depends on the victims, identity not depends on the needs. then i want to draw your attention to my computer screen. this is a post on instagram from kim, with us. it's her article in the financial times in it. she says that, but i said, is, you know, rehabilitating himself with the international community while posing for pictures in a disaster zone with his wife. she goes on to talk about, you know, sort of how you know, so many people feel as though, as we heard in the top, that syrians have been forgotten. there's
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a lack of political will. and that's allowing people to sort of exploit this disaster with that in mind. i mean, where should our attention be in terms of tangibly trying to bring the humanitarian aid that's needed? i think it should be based on the people on the needs, like my friend was not just say, you know, the, it has to be need space, not politicians based. i think the actors in each area have been trying to exploit the situation politically, including a july me, the head of the interim government and in the, the syrian regime. but the focus has to be on the people who they have to be given priority and on the incredible tsunami of civil society, we've seen, i mean, this is like, we just didn't imagine that this, by every think, 12 years on the students of the site, the has this energy, this power and they just rose from under the ashes. they were acting everywhere in every area across all conflict lines. the attention has to be them. they need to be supported. they need to be the,
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the new carrier of off kind of new syria. the monitor is off anyhow, the, the implementers of any assistance. so i think that that's where we need to focus and we should ignore all the petitions trying to exploit the situation to their on ends. now i see all 3 of you nodding their go ahead, go ahead. doctors are, again at my langley with the, with dream on this issue. i mean, as an organization that working in the human, again, a sphere not only in syria, but in ukraine and bangladesh in yemen and sudan. we deal with situations that many entity, when a politicize the reason, i mean, we know that human again, it was weaponized by that sod regime, when they seized a danny and medea and we had starvation in these areas. we had patients with severe mental attrition, few years ago and syria did not forget this. so, but as a humanitarian, we want to make sure that the air reaches the people that need based on the
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priorities. so we partner with the local community, we ask them, what are the priorities right now? the priorities are food and medicine and shelter. next few weeks from now we're going to be wash, should be clean water because the lean water that water sources have been contaminated with sewage and we had clear out break just a few weeks from away from now. we still have this weather outbreak the we expect this to get wars, social and fire, you know, mental health support, especially for the children and the victims. while right now without the homes in this area. so mental health should be a priority. so to us the priorities of the local community, our, our priorities regardless, who are the actors who are trying to minute manipulate the most certainly ensure actually go ahead and jackie, thank you very much. actually, i totally agree with the clothes on it and with everything they said, i want to come back to the point of the mental health, mental it is one of the biggest need actually started my work in the community and field as a translator. for psychologist, i was talking to
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a lot of people who been through different stage of trauma in the last 12 years. this, in like unbearable situation, led to a miserable humanitarian situation for the people living in all control areas. i mean, let's not forget that. so us as an a say we are trying to be in every place we can be. we have presence in office, syria. we are working in a, in a whole comp, in on a 2nd. iraq are in co, bonnie, at the same time we are working in the opposition control area with in the area under control of the city, a national army. so we are in has us in different districts of a little. we are in a little countryside. we are in it live in the us under control of your national army. they are the control of. yeah, the salvation government. what, why i brought all of this. i brought little this because that show how that then fragmented is a senior situation. will you, besides the remote of the proxy world that's going on in the country for us, we are trying to, you know, like one of the main reasons actually for this situation to reach this degree
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before the earthquake. i mean, it's 12 years of quick actually. it's not only an earthquake that made the situation horrible. it's a continuous humanitarian disaster that is going on. but before that there was digital media. yeah. unfortunately, a lot of media platforms and also a lot of people when they didn't want to hear more about it. yeah, we, we need take this opportunity, i don't want to do that is a very important point about mental health. and i think now we have like almost everyone who went through this earthquake is having post traumatic stress disorder . and we start to think the symptoms, people in the social media are talking about living the earthquake again and again having all the classic symptoms of p a c. and the sad thing is, peter is the, is not even talked about before. people don't even know about that. never heard about that. they don't know that what's going that what they're going through is actually a syndrome. it has symptoms and there are ways to kind of handle it. so we need
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to raise awareness about to have content and arabic to spread about is the to help because there are no one, no organization would be able to respond on its own to this massive need. people need to be to learn how to help themselves and how to help their relatives and friends and children. i mean children also are very, very vulnerable to really, i mean, the shock they went through it will have live life lasting impact. so i would always stay there to the point you are saying, actually i'm in touch with my family, which is inside syria. i have my mother, my brother, my sister, my sister has 2 beautiful boys, 4 year olds, and 6 year old. i mean, my nephews are not, they're using to sleep in their rooms. they are every night saying mom, the house will be shaking my mom until yesterday. we managed to let her go to her house even though the house. luckily there are some cracks, but it's it's according to the people who came, i look at it,
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it's quite safe. but she is feeling that every day that the grant is shaking and shaking under her all her besides the fact that there is no hope that the situation really and everybody is concerned, i'm afraid that to model war, we forget again what happened in syria, this as quick as you 40, i know like oldest people taking a look at, of course the media and everybody's interested now will lose that interest in, in 3 months. and then we will come back to the previous situation. we should do our best to end up in the us to i want to share with you and bring in a voice all the way from australia. this was a video common sent to us ah, by aaron of dyke at humanitarian engineer with experience doing this kind of important work after disasters, take a listen. humanitarian organizations are, are struggling to access these areas. so i just, this past weekend, there was so only one border crossing from turkey into syria. so with the syrian government now permitting additional border crossings for aid to reach affected
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communities and opposition held areas. but this is still challenging for those organizations. so really, the key to, to this response moving forward will be supporting local organizations, such as the syrian red crescent, the syrian civil defense force, the white helmets. and we really seen these organizations be instrumental over the last decade of conflict in syria. doctors i had obviously those organizations are instrumental but in such a fractured state where there is no clear authority. are they really able to operate, especially when the world's focus is not on them as it is after this earthquake? i can say proudly, yes sir. so mad global my organization, i've been in syria, northwest auto syria for the past 12 years, are providing support to health care system to hospitals to clinic. so we started mobile clinic just a one day after the earthquake to provide health care to the people who are now without shelter. our hospitals have been working nonstop. but for more than $700.00 surgeries, for trauma cases, we distributed diesel fueled because there is no electricity. every other
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n g o that has been working and syria has been doing work non stop. and i think it's important to highlight the war of humanitarian walker and the fact that this earthquake also affected their mental health. sometimes we forget that doctors and nurses are human like us. no. and they are also affect the doctors. and i'm so glad that you brought that up. we actually have a video featuring some doctors who are kind of really just candidly expressing their reality and how they too are suffering. take listen, leticia lazar little. we feel still on the cost of the strong earthquake oxygen cylinders fell on the surgical endoscopy device and the mobiles c on which caused these devices to malfunction. these device is absolutely necessary in emergency cases or during disasters. no orthopedic surgery can be performed without the mo bile seat arm device emiliano neevadolla joseph thumbs. the look of sci fi is when i let him know. unfortunately, colleagues from giblin, medical cod, raised died under rebels. some members of the ambulance crew died because they were
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in a building which collateral and not all sort of mil missed from. and i mean, doctors, i had, i have to ask you when you hear those doctors and you know, knowing that so many hospitals have been destroyed that you've been delivering fuel to these hospitals because it's so needed. i wonder, where do you have hope that what do you think needs to happen for this to be as the months come, you know, as things kind of is that tension fades away. what is the most important mechanism to ensure that the people are, is that as protected as they can be given so much vulnerability? and the most important thing is for programs like you and al jazeera and other media outlet to keep her spotting attention on celia and other disaster regions. the 2nd, think people are resilient in syria and other places of the world. that doctor model under was the head of our hospital in there. who's he mentioned that you know, he was traumatized with his you know, the group of doctors and nurses because they,
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they, they took care of a child who survived the earth wake and climbed from under the rebels. and he was trying, with his bare hands to lift the stones. so his dad and mom and brothers can survive and he will not know. he was traumatized. everyone around him was traumatized, but they want they continued to walk and that i, that we are paying attention to them. we'll keep them working. if we lift syria priority to be a priority in the u. s. administration because by the administration ignored it, that will make a difference to the cd and michael, or unless syria become a priority, then things will happen like this. and i think also, i mean, i agree with zion, but i also would like to add that we need the big, big shift. and the donor is policy approach to want to syria, actually for 12 years they've been responding to syria as if it is an ongoing earthquake. they will just delivering the you in a minimum, humanitarian aid needed without any prospect for long term plan. and we'll see the
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result of this now. i mean many people died in the northwest because there were no building regulations, brown or people were building gun whatever. and there is no one to monitor. and to check that everything was built according to rules. and now while i agree with your guest from sidney, that we need to support organizations like the white helmet, red crescent, but every institution has its capacity and they cannot expand just like this overnight. there are so many organizations need the supported us to be supported. also, the mandate of this organization is supported now like the white helmet and others . but looking moving forward, we need somebody to rebuild this school. this says we need different organizations and we need to build them. and we need to also stress from now good governance conditionality, based on the respecting human rights. upscale one can evaluation oil is needed to build institutional structures without institutions. the society is going to be vulnerable against syria and all its part is going to be on the. ready again and donors, u. s. u k,
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everyone need to focus on institutional building across syria. certainly a salient point to end on. we have just one minute left. chairman, i want to ask you, i know your mother's in syria and you spoke to us about how she's struggling any personal stories you can share with us before we rob here. i think. yeah, i mean there are many personal stories, the same things related to what the positive said. so also our colleagues in italy area, they are not me the same, think one of them actually we unfortunately lost his life during this f quick and also the others were trying the same time trying to take care of their family, taking that, that with their family their baby, the wife, to the reception center too. so some are safe on going back to the warehouse where we are having a relief. 8. we're trying to deliver the kids, you know, and that's all my kids. if you can get that this hospitals need it. i just want also to take advantage of this moment to tell you all very quickly we're running
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out of time. thank you very much, very, it's very important. not to lose the dispos spotlight on city. we should not forget the situation. human data access should not be closed. 30 months later, people should have access to 8 people deserve this. thank you. and we want to thank you for being part of this conversation for joining us for sharing your insights with us. certainly a conversation we'll continue to follow here at the stream. that's all the time we have for today. thank you. as i had showed one and the theme. see you next time. ah, a ah
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