i don't think it is talk exactly who turkey has been bombing shelling except for and what will happen i think that it has been another example of a collective failure of the international community wants or in which there are no actors who have. behaved and i have an outstanding record it is absolutely true that other parties have on civilians certain regime is used barrel bombs the anti isis coalition of pretty much leveled huge parts of iraq or in its operations but that doesn't excuse turkey from its obligations and i think going into northern syria i think that it's got to demonstrate which it hasn't as yet it really is going to produce security for the people there and i think also on the issue of the return of refugees those refugees have to be returned voluntarily to the areas of syria that they come from not to the area of turkey wishes them to be and i think there are very very major concerns right that this would be a very serious violation of international law while turkey is hoping that 2000000

of the more than 3600000 syrian refugees it currently hold scan be returned to this safe space in northeast syria now we spoke to noor adam who's a syrian refugee a journalist and commentator living in france right now ne told us that returning home was not a reality for many syrians like him let's take a listen. of course i want to go but for a man who i mean it's not safe for anyone who would like to come back even like that for the civilians over there i mean for a most of the people get from syria i mean they're like starting your life but the big quote was so in that area it will supplant and they cannot go out because in our country like. opening there the whole bit open the door for daycare efficiency on syria and then a candle or from any family history i mean i know people there and there are so i mean like tragic like and no one them and even respond for the for their even have

to accept and their country or them might make a new life for them so to me as if she is of course it's not it's not like right to come by syria and but they're very tragic on civilians who are stuck in there also of syria and who can more then one more than one group start to hit and russian. government turkish then they take a ices and like only the end the only one who was in take it from all of that is are the civilians. are they syrian refugees in turkey who are willing to voluntarily return to go to this safe area that turkey is planning to establish in the northeast look there there are nearly 4000000 refugees from syria and turkey right now so it will not be realistic to say that all of these refugees 1st will be voluntarily returning to turkey will make all these

$4000000.00 refugees return home and 3rd to say that none of these refugees will will go back to the establish zone saw their own demain one of the main reasons why turkey wants to establish design is to enable those who want to voluntarily return to syria to basically establish an area where they can actually go about. turkey will of course not do this by force but in order for turkey to say hey those who wants to go back to syria there is a place for you as on must be established and i want to comment on on the previous speakers some of the remarks he made 1st of all i think one thing should be clear and i think that the western media particularly has been. doing some sort of a distant formation about this whole operation and that is being in turkey waging a war against the kurds turkey is not in a fight with the kurds turkey has launched an operation against the peak is syria

affiliate which is the y.p. terrorist group there is a huge we should make a clear distinction between the kurds as a minority or as an ethnic group and the y p g p k k so to say that turkey is fighting the kurds on its own is a is a mistake i think to begin with and with regards to communitarian. comments made i think 1st of all it hasn't been a full 24 hour i think maybe it's just been 24 hours and you're asian started it is early days let me let me allow add let me allow a little interest bond to what you just said about the kurds at christo your response it's true that there's been a lot of criticism of turkey from the international community about this operation or human rights groups for years have been reporting about turkish maltreatment of kurds both within turkey but also elsewhere and i think that there is very little credibility in the claims that you know turkey is sympathetic to the needs and interests of the kurdish population in syria it sees kurdish groups

as potentially wanting to stablish an autonomous or semi autonomous presence or even worse for them a state perhaps in north syria and this is something that turkey sees as a considerable threat so yes you cannot deny that there are some threats of course nobody is not saying. i hope from certain turkish kurdish groups to. towards to you but there has to be something that is justifiable and you know. proportionate and i don't think that the innovation of northern syria again is one of our right let's bring back catherine feeling to the conversation integrates i want to go back to this notion of save zone the techie want to establish a northeast syria to allow for the return of syrian refugees how feasible is this and what goes into moving such a notch number of people one of them just accept such an operation i mean 1st of all we need to acknowledge that countries like iraq turkey jordan lebanon i really

sure during a massive burden when it comes to refugees is not just an economic a burden it's a political one eats the social fabric of those society and i read it believe that as a starting point we should show. support and accept to shed the blood and which he in our view it's not always the case we are also in favor of the return of refugees to to their place of origin but it needs to be done terry. the dignity and it needs to be sustainable when it comes to a safe zone again if it's recreation not sure what it means it's probably more a military concept a pretty good concept than a humanitarian one. in this area if the public service is provided to the population willing to go back if they will they want to go back and tell the most welcome but. from from where we are we see that to bring back 2000000

people in the east which is today a conflict area it's going to be a massive challenge and. and it's going to be difficult i believe and having traveled to the region in spoken to it to people fabricio do display therians want to go back today under the current conditions i mean the war is still going on talking to 2 syrians they all want to go back if you look at the survey made by unit shell all of them i mean close to 90 percent of syrians wants to go back i mean who wants to be displaced person living in very difficult conditions no perspective so 90 percent of the syrians wants to go back but they're wants to go back if safety security is provided and today in syria. despite the great efforts of many actors you might an actress pretty good actress eat still difficult for refugees to be reassure that. they will be

safe and secure and especially if we talk about an area like northeast syria which is today an unstable area and as i said you my 1st intervention if it's contaminated by a weapon by unexploded ordinance by mind every day you have people injured if not killed so i would say not the syria for return of refugees i mean a dramatic change is needed it's. i met at the break to ask an important question about the safe stone whether it's a humanitarian concept turkey has said that development projects have been planned for the safe return of syrian refugees can you tell us more about these plans i mean once the military operation is done then what what is in place to welcome these refugees back to the other side well 1st of all if we look at what happened in a free in one thing we should make it clear that the administration will be given back

to the locals like it had it has happened in africa and local councils elected by the locals will be established but aside from that when it comes to infrastructure and providing services jerky has a very clear plan in fact president. recently announced that plan and there will be villages set up there will be some small town set up there will be schools hospitals even a leisure areas but for all this to happen of course a political stability and security must be established and i think part of that the big picture is clearing a terrorist group from the region before a political transition happen in north sea north east syria as well as in syria as a whole country and turkey you know has been part of the a stunning group too and that's also an aim to contribute to political transition turkey has been the only country with boots on the ground fighting against that

also aims to bring stability to the country with regards to some of these speculations i think we should. think of we should give turkey support for it's going to tension rather than saying hey you can't do this and let the terrorists attack your citizens along your horror i mean the e.u. countries and the us i mean the e.u. countries mostly have been against this plan but what about all the refugees that are in turkey and want to go back to europe i mean what do we do with these we can't contain them forever and we can't. keep them you know keep them within our borders with their own even want to go back to chris or her to 20 years later that do yeah christo and what do you say to that turkey says it can't bear the burden of these refugees and need that the international community should do more to help especially the europeans i've been arguing that for a very long time that turkey jordan and lebanon have not got the help that they deserved and that they have been left to carry the burden and i think it was wrong for europe to put up fences and borders and everything else and that it is actually

completely mishandled the whole refugee issue but that doesn't mean that turkey come along when you hear president one announces plans a u.n. general assembly says not speculation of returning want to 1000000 syrian refugees into this area in northern syria now that is not identifying this is some voluntary plan taught it is saying here are a number of jews they're going to go back and here are a number of towns that are going to spend in a $27000000000.00 project and they're expecting other countries to contribute to that now it does mean of course that we have to find a solution to the refugee issue and ultimately of course you go back to the entire failure on syria from day one and turkey has been caught up in that europe has been caught up in that and there are all the actors concerned of exacerbated this problem i think the other issue and security you've got to mention the issue that this will only benefit these actions the possibility of isis stylish breaking out

of these camps and posing a greater threat because they will certainly try to profit from the chaos of war that will go on right now present ardo and had some very harsh words for arab leaders particularly for saudi arabia and egypt earlier about this turkish operation because the arab league as you know has called for an extraordinary meeting over this turkish operation well what do you make of that i talked about the various actors who have a responsibility in this what about the arab league. well absolutely i understand where he's coming from in that of course you know have had some. the arabia and other partners going into yemen and there has been a disaster there one the worst humanitarian disasters of the 21st century so there aren't many countries in the region that can actually stand up and criticize turkey without being very hypocritical it can also add israel into that as well in a way that it deals with gaza but none of that should take away from the fact that there are obligations in terms of international law in terms of. rules for

civilians and that's not unfortunately going to be the case that it's going to be a hit i've had 3 cylinder the valve give you the last word or what impact what's the scale of the potential humanitarian crisis we could see here if this takesh operation goes on for a while we don't know how long it's going to last obviously it's early days but what are the risks here for the people who work on the ground this crisis needs to end and it would add unless a crisis the syria crisis it will and only read a collective action and we don't see this happening. on the we have a hard time to believe that the use of force will bring any peace and he said that bt in syria beyond even the use of force we have very difficult issues to address we raise that issue of the refugees which is dramatic but we have also

another one we should never forget is the 100 thousands of people who are in camps today people who came from the last territory headed by the islamic state group mainly civilians mainly children who had done absolutely nothing and i think this last minute area offensive show again that status quo turning a blind eye to the situation of these people in those camps is not an option and collective action is needed no one we solve this alone. thank you so much we'll leave it on that note thank you very much for being part of this discussion the bony and chris story of thank you for being on inside story and thank you for watching you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at al-jazeera dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page at facebook dot com for stache inside story you can of course also join the conversation on twitter a handle is that inside story for me for me back to the whole team thanks for

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know know about renegotiating that we would have had to do a lot of you know 3 times you put a deal and you disagree with that deal as a child but it is the worst of the lot it was brought to us what you know what it was about maybe his sandoz head to head with the chairman of the u.k.'s breaks it party reach it the terms of our lives tough i'm shocked there's not a loose about its often shop it's pretty clear actually it is as clear as brits it means but so yes it is and it's still too easy. on him to see. this is al jazeera i'm dating with a check on your world headlines the nato chief has joined world leaders and urging turkey to show restraint in its military offensive in northern syria turkish forces say they've captured 15 border villages and a kurdish checkpoint and have set up

a military base in the border region at least 15 civilians and 3 turkish soldiers have been killed. we fight terrorism in all its forms on all its manifestations and we do that together in nato we do it in the global coalition to defeat the dos nato and all nato allies have been part of the global coalition all the way and we have made enormous progress in the fight against darvish darshan is still a target darshan's a common and the me and therefore we need to make sure that the gains we have made are not jeopardized when it comes to the situation in order in syria and also why p.g. there is a known fact that there are different views among nato allies nato is still present on the ground in northern syria but we are part of the global coalition. and we continue to fight terrorism. not on the ground in northern syria well turkey's

foreign minister has been defending the country's actions. is done to go to they claim that turkey is targeting civilians and this will never happen and has never happened turkey has always been sensitive about civilians and we are hosting many migrants and refugees the why p.g. is attacking christians in syria and to try to put a train as if we are attacking them they are burning tires in order to break the vision of our aircraft and blaming turkey for bombing and burning places where civilians live this misinformation will never make us give up on this important fight we are fighting a terrorist organization and it is our duty to give the right information to the people 2 missiles have struck an iranian oil tanker off the coast of saudi arabia iran's foreign ministry says the sabathia was attacked and set on fire in the red sea the crew is reported safe the foreign ministry is calling the incident a dangerous adventure the u.s.

navy says it's closely monitoring developments the prime minister has been awarded this year's nobel peace prize he's being recognized for ending the long running conflict between ethiopia and eritrea over a disputed border territory. when mitt became prime minister in april 28th. he made it clear that he wished to peace talks with a retreat. in close cooperation with the side yes. the president of a victory on. mid week late worked out the principles for a 4 and then for a peace agreement to end the long no peace no the war. between the 2 countries a south african court has ruled the former president jacob zuma must stand trial on corruption charges his lawyers had argued the case was politically motivated and should be thrown out zuma is expected to be back in court for trial next week he's

accused of taking bribes from a french weapons company in exchange for $180000000.00 in government contracts in the late 1990 s. china's president is in india for talks with prime minister narendra modi xi jinping is discussing tensions in the disputed region of indian administered kashmir china supported pakistan at a recent un security council meeting. the world health organization says the ebola epidemic in the northeast of the democratic republic of congo has been confined to a smaller area but one that's remote and occupied by rebel groups the number of new ebola cases dropped from nearly 130 in april to 51 in mid september there were 14 new infections last week in japan's capital food and bottled water being stockpiled as thai food closes in weather forecasters expected to lose of rain and damaging

winds in tokyo this weekend and 2 matches at the rugby world cup have been cancelled flights and train services are disrupted as well those are the headlines on al jazeera are trafficking is coming up next. antiquities trafficking is one of the most profitable illegal trades in the world estimated to be worth several $1000000000.00 a year it ranks on after illegal arms and drugs precious objects plundered or discovered in clandestine excavations find their way onto the official market into museums and galleries. the main victims the pillage nations

are now demanding the return of their stolen treasures for a long time these demands for ignored. but systematic ransacking of heritage sites meticulously staged by the islamic state of iraq and the levant isis has caused a global outcry and has reopened the debate with changing public opinion efforts to halt the trafficking have gained a new urgency but are nations prepared to act from berlin to beijing from rome to the syrian border an investigation into trafficking that's at the heart of an economic cultural and diplomatic war.

paris february 2009 crowds flocked to the ground palace to admire the treasures contained in the private collection of eve son of home and pierre ballsy one of the most prestigious in the world a few days later these precious works were to be auctioned off by christie's. dozens of masterpieces will be changing hands including these 218th century bronze heads a rat and a rabbit which had once been housed in the imperial palace in beijing their sale sparked an uproar in china. to follow the law was. the. law was. but the present owner doesn't agree to that issue as a q.b. and you probably did think he is or is there the. omar shoulder

shake a fellow when one is of your own book will be tude cryptic on that lake it actually . except that these heads were stolen back in the 19th century it was an 860 june the 2nd opium war when french and british troops plundered the forbidden city and ransacked the summer palace. still today the destruction and fair ft are a deep scar for the chinese people. beyond their aesthetic value the bronze heads are considered as priceless items of chinese heritage. should p.r. barracks in their former return. to see architecture you know the praise only paid you to the filmmaker do it or she you are fair is it the it it every day is

a deaker curve issue you are sorry guys are as big. as you are a 48 is really fake which probably publicly. took on the issue. as iness led there he had to go on the boulevard to d.c. it. was. it was really fun to share a new book. that was new and it was.

the 2 heads finally went for a combined price of 28000000 euros the conclusive bids came from a chinese businessman who asked to remain anonymous but 5 days after the sale the mysterious bio revealed his identity at a press conference in beijing and his announcement was more than unexpected. ways is that in a city that's already been well it's interesting to look on but in the city in that area. as the buyer refused to pay for the objects pillage from his country the big was cancelled and the 2 bronzes were returned to p.r. budget. in china people continued to demand the restitution a demand which took on political dimensions beijing viewed it as a way to exercise and national humiliation but also to confirm its newfound

international clout the 2 bronzes in the sun the whole belge collection had become symbols of the plundering of their country by the west for christie's it was owed and to calm things down with the chinese in 2030 the owner of christie's. francois peano himself sent emissaries to directly negotiate the purchase of the bronzes with. was a good point we could see over and near. them for therapy know this it had to be up or here or there. she says for issuers. officially from swapping no returned the heads to beijing out of friendship for the people of china but that wasn't all a few weeks after the return of the bronzes in the presence of the french businessman the chinese government finally gave christie's permission to operate in the country and exchange as p.r. described it.

the much publicized case of the summer palace bronzes is far from unique more and more pillaged countries are demanding the return of their cultural assets the trophies of the renowned museums of the western world. countries have a legal tool to negotiate for the return of their stolen treasures the 970 unesco convention signed in june the era of de colonization imposes on all nations to return objects obtained illegally. in recent years the pressure on renowned museums has intensified. the pergamon museum the most visited in berlin is obliged to know the origins of its collections. you start.