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ew generation growing up in unusual living spaces. it may not be perfect, but it's home we have many more stories from latin america on the web page there. you can see the page and the other stories we've been telling you about - aljazeera.com. aljazeera.com. >> one down, 11 to go. the republicans leading contenders made their national debate debut. at times they spent more time beating up on each other than going out who can beat hillary clinton. we'll examine and dissect what is new and what has changed in the gop field. it's the "inside story."
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welcome to "inside story," i'm lynch lisa fletcher in for ray suarez. donald trump is ensuring he will continue to garner teang. attention. immigration led the way followed by race, the economy education, and abortion. after all is said and done have the republicans gotten any closer to figuring out who will lead their fight to win the white house? al jazeera's david schuster
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picks it up from here. >> you nervous? >> soon after the opening photoop the prime time debate came quickly with donald trump raising his hand and leaving open the possibility he may challenge the gop winner unless it's him. >> if i am the nominee i will pledge i will not run as an independent. >> kentucky senator rand paul takes the first shot. >> he is already hedging his bet because he's used to buying politicians. >> the next question was more direct. megan kelly. >> you call women you don't like fat pigs slobs and -- >> only rosie o'tonl. what i donnell.it's fun and we have a great time. >> kentucky senator rand paul, christie supports the nsa's aggressive use of wiretaps. paul is opposed.
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>> i want to collect more records from terrorists but less records from innocent americans. >> listen senator when you are sitting in a subcommittee just blowing hot air in this, you can say things like this. when you are responsible for protecting the lives of american people what you need to make sure to use the system the way it's supposed to work. >> here's the problem governor you fundamentally misunderstand the bill of rights. every time you did a case you gort awarrant from a judge. i'm talking about searches without warrants. indiscriminately of all american records. >> wisconsin governor scott walker also seemed to struggle at times. asked about policy walker answered with cliches. >> we are leading the obama clinton doctrine. >> each candidate shows
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rhetorical strengths. >> if we are going to compete in this world today there is no way we can do it today with lowering expectations and dumbing down everything, children will be heartbroken that they can't get a job in the 21st century. >> when somebody loads a gun, and points it by god you ought to take them seriously. >> i inherited a state that is on the brink of dying. we turned it around with rising credits and tax cuts and the state is unified and people have hope again in ohio. >> earlier in the evening seven lower tier candidates participated in a separate cleveland debate. and all accounts carly fiorina stood out. >> hillary clinton lies about benghazi, she lies about e-mails.
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she is still defending planned parenthood and still her party's front runner. >> this debate belonged to donald trump. his stage presence alone was a tour de force. >> this state owes 90 trillion and they need somebody like me to straighten out this mess. >> if we're talking about quality of content, messaging that means something who stood out and why? >> well, again i'd say donald trump, because the whole issue of politics in something like this, you want to come across as havingivity. donald trump said oh i'm not going to pledge to run against the gop candidate unless it's me. people believe a lot of the other things he says, they think it may not seen authenticitily correct but he wins on that
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count as well. what happened in that, we heard in the piece, john kasich was on the bubble number 10 or 11, he did pretty well, had the home town crowd behind him and kasich showed a certain amount of empathy and humanity that others didn't have. and john kasich stood out because of the authenticityivity of his message. >> did you see missed opportunity? >> i think there was somewhat of a missing opportunity when it came to jeb bush. the audience was most maifers in the first half hour and jeb bush again seemed a little bit nervous and struggled with the relationship with his father and the relationship with his brother and how he defines himself as being separate. at this point you would think jeb bush would have an answer down pat. when he got on familiar territory of education and education standards he seemed to
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be just fine. >> the format of the debate there were 60 seconds for the answers. not a lot of questions that were directed to all of the candidates. it was difficult for the viewers to compare's compare apples to apples. do you think there was a take away? >> i think the at a away was the biggest battle right now at least last night was between fox news representing perhaps the establishment in the minds of many republicans and donald trump who is certainly outside of that. given the format as you pointed out, there was not the opportunity for scott walker and chris christie to go against him but rand paul sort of did it. they went after donald trump hard and whether you liked that or hated it, it certainly gathered everybody's attention.
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that might have fueled donald trump for people who felt like the establishment is out to get them. >> even lindsay graham said it was a trump inquestion sition. as hard as fox was on trump do you think they were hard enough on the other contenders? >> scott walker got question after question of his weak suit. like fox felt he didn't have much experience. there were questions to marco rubio about immigration, that is something he knows something about. this was donald trump achts moment and debate. here was fox news clearly asking him question after question and for most part donald trump was able to deflect and return fire with the counterpunch ferocity that donald trump is known for. >> david schuster thanks for
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joining us. coming up , the trump factor. >> if it weren't for me you wouldn't even be talking about illegal immigration. this wasn't a subject on anybody's mind until i brought it up at mid announcement. >> if he's right if he can dictate the issues? what's a candidate to do? what's changed after the gop's first debate, it's the the the >> it creates a huge opportunity for the small business owners. >> these are all different strains.
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>> because our leaders are stupid. our politicians are stupid. >> billionaire donald trump didn't specify which politicians he was talking about. i'm lisa fletcher in for ray suarez. there's been no sign are that his support is eroding. if he's in for the long haul how will that shape the debate and how will the other candidates campaign? for answer we turn to bruce hane and angela kelley, and in new york, jeannie zano. jeannie i want to start with you. it doesn't appear that trump is going anywhere at least in the short term. will his presence shape the
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debate in a way we otherwise would not have seen? >> absolutely. you know i don't know if his numbers are going to go up as a result of the debate last night. i have to say i think -- i'm not sure he did himself any favors in terms of getting new support. in fact i think he made some major mistakes last night. but that said, he absolutely is going to be in this for at least the short time, if not the longer haul. and it is going to shape what happens with the gop. let's just look at an example. the second question that was asked of him, that question megan kelly asked him about women. well there's a constituency that the gop desperately needs in order to gain national office and if you are alienating women that is a big problem for him in the same way his previous comments about mexican immigrants can impact their ability to vote. it is interesting to me that he took credit for putting the issue of illegal immigration on the table. it's not exactly true.
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if we think about it, illegal integration was on the i table certainly before donald trump. we saw that last night. >> bruce did he do major mistakes? >> he sure did. i hope i do better with the women here than donald trump did last night. >> just don't call us slobs and you'll be okay. >> i think donald trump lowered his ceiling pretty substantially last night. over 20 million people tuned into this debate and olot of them were unfamiliar with what kind of candidate donald trump was. they knew him as donald trump the approximately air, donald trump who is the reality tv stars and the top of the polls. what kind of candidate was he, i don't think anyone was terribly impressed with what they saw last night. the folks who already supported him, they're probably still with
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him. the trump collapse is probably not going to happen, probably a slow leak from the tire. the people who were opposed to him are probably more opposed than ever. but that's its, oh my goodness. >> angela the fact that he's true to what he is, bombastic, and he's putting a different spin on what he thinks washington should look like. >> he doesn't hold back and honestly people like that . he is reflecting what is not a huge percentage of the republican party, but people are fed up and see the same thing over and over again and this guy is outrageous and clearly enjoying himself and we all went into last night talking about donald trump and here we are 24 hours later just about and still talking about donald trump. we have 460 days before the
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election and he also toasd out the third party possibility. i don't think going away. >> governor john kasich took a surprisingly softer trump. >> donald trump is hitting a nerve in this country. he is hitting a nerve. they're truss traited, they think the government is not working for them and for people who just want to tune him out they're making a mistake. >> how do you advise a candidate to deal with trump, what is the politically smart move? >> to do what john kasich did and not what rand paul did. he is giving voice to a frustration that certain people in the republican party or who identify as republicans have with the way things are are working
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in washington, they feel that government's broken. there are several candidates who we saw who gave voice to that concern in terms of the policies they took up and the way they wanted to deal with washington as well. as a republican i was encouraged and heartened by the quality of the field, several of the candidates really distinguished themselves and carly fiorina distinguished herself well. the trump voters are eventually going to have to go anywhere where as i believe he exits the race. >> mexico china, are i.s.i.s, is being incendiary a strategy? >> i think you could think of it as a strategy. he's absolutely phenomenal he
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can do that, that said, it is still really early in this race. so people have to listen to somebody, think about what they have to offer, think about what their policies are and then move forward towards the position of whom to vote for. if you listened to donald trump it was very clear that the substance i know i was hoping he would add to some of what he was saying is largely absent. until he begins to offer some real policy solutions beyond mexico build the wall because i said it, that is going to resonate with voters, they are going to have to give people energy i am all four people, tuning into great numbers to a debate like this but that's really just a first step. they also have to think about how this person is going to behave in office. unfortunately for donald trump i
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do not feel it was a good representation from him. if you are having trouble fielding questions from someone like megan kelly who did a great job and how can you be so thin skinned? that's clear to anyone watching the debate. >> speaking of megan kelly trump took a very cavalier attitude with her. angela were you surprised that other candidates didn't take an opportunity at that point to express their offense at trump and maybe bring in female voters? >> would they want their wives to be referred the that way or i was surprised -- >> does he engender so many faith in the community that they don't want to take him on. >> as far as immigration issues in the latino family, it's
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unfair to say that the latinos in this country are rapists and murderers and you don't need it was like a crazy day in disneyland. angela bruce and cheney, she was not in the field but it didn't stop from focusing on her. >> let's are clear we should be talking about hillary clinton. >> last night's cattle ul call was essentially a bunch of guys. what's changed on that front it's the "inside story." >> there's a line of police advancing toward the crowd here. >> ferguson: city under siege. >> it isn't easy to talk openly
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>> my name is imran garda.
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>> it seems like this election has been a whole lot about a person who is very high in the polls, doesn't have a clue about how to govern. a person who has been filled with scandals and who could not lead and of course i'm talking about hillary clinton. >> former arkansas governor mike huckabee getting a laugh out of the partisan crowd. tonight on the show what's changed in the gop field in the
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wake of last nightly's debate. bruce angelique and jeannie are still with me. taking on a democratic candidate hillary clinton and what did the group learned about it yesterday who did it best? >> i think marco rubio may have turned in all in all the best debate performance but performance is not all, it's how you stand when you come into the debate. it's pretty well to identify that john kasich helped his cause more than anybody else coming off a lot of conversation how well kasich acquitted him. he probably evidenced the most humanity most authenticityivity.
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that's what people want in the president they want a leader. >> the cheering section was huge for him but yeah i would say most people didn't probably know who he was at the beginning of the debate and in the end he held hits own. marco rubio did a good job. he was slipping, early expectation for him he has been slipping and now he's back a bit. good to watch. >> let's take a listen. >> if i'm our nominee how is hillary clinton going to lecture me about living paycheck to paycheck? i was raised paycheck to paycheck. how was she going to lecture me about student loans? if i'm our nominee we will be the party of the future. >> if hillary clinton is our president, the fact of the matter is she's the epitome of
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the secular progressive movement. and she counts on the fact that people are uninformed. the olinski model taking advantage of useful idiots. i happen to believe that people are not stupid. >> so jeannie no doubt the clinton campaign was watching this very closely last night. who do you think emerged as the threat and what is the the clinton campaign's line of attack. >> they claimed hillary clinton wasn't watching and she had her selfies with kim carr daesh yah. she absolutely was watching. if you take donald trump out of the equation and you look at this kind of as two debates, the trump circus and you looked at
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the two quote unquote winners, i agree, john kasich and marco rubio, gist imagine if you have john kasich out of ohio and marco rubio that is a formidable ticket. i think the clinton campaign has to be looking at that closely. we had talked previously about what donald trump said about women, not just what he said about women but the policies that were discussed, you know absolutely pro-life without even the exception of a life of a woman. and comments about women's health care, if you are a democrat and you have got to be celebrating that absolutely they are going to have difficulty winning the women's vote with some of these candidates. i think there were good things for the are republicans there, and things they need to watch out for.
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they would like nothing more than donald trump to stay at the top of the ticket, you have two former sitting senators or groarches on a ticket that's going to be fairly strong and they will make a force that the democrats particularly kyle hill have to reckon with. >> i think they're pulling the conversation far to the right. the questions around abortion were stunning. that was just staggering and then slarlt with immigration and the treatment of the latino community. two of the most important deck demographics, women and latinos. the way they are talking is just oftennive. i just think there will be great 30-second ads for the hillary campaign that will be created. marco rube yoa, i'm a latino
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and it flows quite naturally. >> would you say, this is a history of supporting the latina community, it is not support, it is who he is, do they both resonate? >> mar cohn rubio had a lot of enforcement with his legislation, he has since back pedaled from that. jeb bush, the same thing. they're trying to have the same thing, tough on enforcement but not saying what he would do, in temps of the 11,000. i can promise that if we look at ooun ooun vision, we can univision.
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>> one thing to keep in mind that women and hispanics, you don't have to pivot something that would be advantage to you in those communities. jobs for small businesses, i think two out of three small businesses are being started by women. same thing with list panic. >> thank you aural for joining us that is it for this edition of "inside story" for ray suarez i am lisa fletcher. have a great weekend.
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