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or didn’t take a break, and you came and literally after the competition in the mix zone announced that this was my last start, and i was going to end my career, well, somehow i always said it, plus or minus, as it is, not her lil, the time has come, now i’m sitting here in front of you, your team was ready for you to speak out so categorically, but i can honestly say that svetlana vladimirovna is still... experiencing, uh, continues to experience such mixed emotions, we talk periodically on this topic, and we are fine we understand that we did everything the way it should have been, everything was on time, everything was fine, but when i go out on the ice to prepare for the show or something else, you can see the sadness in her eyes, such melancholy, they are very worried , sasha, this question is based on... perestroika, you need
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to restructure your head a little, because from time to time you still wake up in the morning, so you go to training, well, okay, you can calm down, so i would like to share knowledge and experience with the younger generation, because it really rich in various...events, highs, some falls and so on, and you can give a lot to young guys who only have this path ahead of them, plus, i haven’t completely left the ice, i would like to make contact with the audience in the show, but in a more relaxed, calm atmosphere, in a subdued light with a gun. it would be very cool, that is, now
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the plans are, well, probably still to ride in the show, and then maybe join the team, and that worked with you, of course i never left the team, they are part my family, that is, when you talk about helping young athletes, you talk about mark kondratyuk, but i think mark kandratyuk already knows how to do everything and has experience. he even bought it from him in some places more than i did, but we have a lot of young guys in our group, take the same grisha fedorov, who is progressing very much, and he is only at the very beginning of this path, he has us all we hope that everything will turn out very well, when you spoke about the experience gained... over many years
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of training and performances, you mentioned the ups and downs, tell us a little about what have you had something that you consider to be a high point in your career, maybe a peak, a peak point and then, probably, the very niche, well, about highs, you can probably highlight the fact that i won medals at the national championship five times, which in general pretty good. if you estimate that, roughly speaking, since i was 14 years old, i have been a member of the russian national team, first as a junior, then as an adult, during this time i have never been eliminated from it, how long does it take, roughly speaking, for 11 seasons, from five seasons with national medals championship of the largest tournament in our country, this is quite good, it can be attributed to the ups. and also, of course, the
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european championship is also, in my opinion, quite a significant result, especially considering the points that, as recently as it has been generally accepted , that men’s singles is a little bit at this level, a little lower than the doubles, women’s and the same dances, but still this is a good result, the world junior championships, we... then with dima aliyev feirilya, that’s why the takeoff in general was quite a lot, yes, somewhere it was not possible to take off straight and fly for a very long time, why did there be such moments in lutz in the quadruple, the most flattened, i’m very glad that in general in
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my career lutz succeeded more times than it didn’t work out, you can also the takeoff is due to the fact that i ended up on the team. games, they passed me by a couple of times, we also went through all these moments together, not getting into the olympic games hits very hard on this internal state, on motivation, on the mood, it’s very difficult
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to get out of this state and get back into the fold, then there was no motivation for you to work even harder, even further, this failure, that is, you were at... this was depressing, you mean this, it just happened at moments when you were already, roughly speaking, in peak shape , i was working and everything was going progressively upward as much as possible, now, roughly speaking, you are already entering the olympic palace with one foot, at the last moment everything breaks down, here, uh, there is a certain breakdown inside. which is very difficult to overcome, both for me and, of course, for the coach too, when it is very a lot of effort was invested in this path to this goal, to this dream, well, it’s probably still difficult, as it seems to me, because there is about your friendship
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with your rivals, with the guys, single skaters with the group of evgeniy vladimirovich rukavitsin and the guys training with you. reslana vladimirovna, that is, you are all friends, you always support each other, you empathize with failures and rejoice in victories, it turns out that dmitry aliyev counted the olympic games as an asset, mark kondratyuk also succeeded, and this, too, probably puts a little pressure, yes, that guys , and how to be happy for your friends if things didn’t work out for you, calmly, you can be happy if everything is fine. a person with a head, if he perfectly understands where is sport, where is life, where is friendship, where is wrestling and so on, knows how to differentiate between these, then in general there is a place for joy, because i have never had a moment of envy, what is there dimka qualified or
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mark got to the olympic games , had a great time at them, you were annoyed with yourself because you couldn’t do what you needed to do on the ice when... you needed to, but at the same time you were happy for them, that they were able to overcome themselves somewhere, coped better than you, this did not and does not affect friendship or communication in any way, i am very glad that at one time they were able to do what i could not, and this cool, making the decision to end your sports career, did it come to you personally or...
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that you are already a little bit below the level that is, uh, even, well, in our country, take the russian championship of this season last year, but this is already such very high and decent level, probably five years ago i was at the same level as the guys now to understand that you are already a little unable to cope with them, it comes... to simplify the content somewhere so that the program is not lost, because we are working on the second assessment, if you try to complicate it, the second assessment will go away, and you want it all was in the aggregate and we have to clean it up a little, because somehow, apparently, the strength is becoming so athletic, ready to achieve
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some new achievements, there are fewer and fewer of them, and among the guys twenty and eighteen years old, this fuse still burns, well you understand the fact that you can’t cope with them a little, i’m very glad that last season i managed to take a medal at the national championship again. so to speak, to feel these warm, pleasant emotions once again, but this season i already realized that i can’t handle it, simplifying the content and hoping that others will make mistakes somewhere is also a bit, it seems to me, not sporty, not competitive principle of fighting, so the time has come, have you watched the world cup, which?
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efficient, it seems to me that he himself still can’t believe what he did, that’s it the number, even quadruple jumps, of adam syauhimphai or the japanese, yuma kagiyama, is still a little higher, it seems to me, the level, but nevertheless, in various circumstances, our guys could well force them to fight, get up, the vacation is over, and what a vacation , i haven’t rested a day yet, can you rest at work, alexander ivanovna? oh, yes, yes,
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excuse me, we should somehow schedule the visit, i have an advantage, this is some kind of evidence, corpses, she loves it, the ex-wife caused a scandal , screamed that she would kill them both, you feel the smell, gentlemen, yes, there is a hint of mousse, how do you like the new forensic expert yourself? a prominent opera recorded, well, it seems like everyone has left, if this is not a murder, it means a kidnapping, or a staged kidnapping, an assault group, readiness number one, that is, it’s not safe to be here with you, it’s not safe to be with me at all, uh, no, not i’ll take you in this form, go back and get treatment, otherwise, maybe explain to me what’s going on, don’t worry, this is a formality as part of the investigation, no genetic fingerprints of the killer were found, the victim was also without... in mean? bloodhound, new episodes, tomorrow after
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the program time. you carry too much responsibility for others. my shoulders told you this. the body can say a lot about a person. our potolagan thinks so. our guest is international class sports master alexander samarin. you have already voiced that you are looking towards coaching. what do you think, after you have watched the world championships as an athlete, what will you have to work on with your students to reach this level, level world elite now in men's figure skating? it seems to me that everyone in general needs to work on balance, on balance in the program, so that the programs are interesting, so that the second grade is not lost against the background of the technical part, because? because , again, take the strongest warm-up in the free program at the world championships, there
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is mainly this balance, if you go a little lower, then either the guys are trying to jump, the second score sags greatly because of this, and so, or vice versa, but you want it all in total it was to and there was a wow effect from the jumps and a wow effect from the program, from the track, tell me what you think, where to develop ilya malinin, who... it seems to me, has already done the maximum possible in terms of technical assessment, well, he can try two quadruple axels, for example, well, he still has to, uh, in addition to this incredible number of quadruple jumps, including a quadruple axel, to raise a little more, it seems to me, his second grade, no, well, this is technical, because again it’s obvious , as he added very much, but also after all. visually there is even such a small imbalance between lightness and some kind of in quadruple jumps and somewhat
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such tightness in the second rating of the quadruple jump, what do you think he will do, will he be the first who else will jump the quadruple jump, otherwise here in russia some people are arguing, they are swinging, but i think i wouldn’t say that he can become or someone else can become the first, just probably a five-fold jump. again, sooner or later he will come to our world, and just as axel came once, there was ilya malinin, now here not long ago vlad also jumped. i think someone else will jump the axel in the near future, then the road will go to the fifth jump , i don’t know who is first, but i think this will undoubtedly happen, but look, with american figure skaters, it seems to me, this is a certain trend, because there was an incredible chen, whose record has only just been broken since the nineteenth year, it was not broken, he was
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also broken by his compatriot and also at the dawn of it... they said that the boy was only jumping, absolutely unartistic, in the end we got incredible figure skater nathan chenn, and maybe later ilya malinin will also reach the same level, gain experience and again gain experience, it is clear from him that he is improving with each season in the presentation of the program, but there is still no that kind of relaxation , the confidence of composure that nate had on him. which again went from the stars and falls and rose back to the heavens during his journey, all these ups and downs led to the fact that we saw knighton as he is, when i still have a picture in front of my eyes from the world championships, when knighton chan
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came out on the ice after yuzuruhanyu, there was practically no space on the ice at all. to roll out, that is, a whole bunch of vine-fluffs and other various soft toys, he has a piece, literally like from chair to chair, he stood, twirled something in place, looked at the points that yuzuru hannyu received, and yuzuru hannyu then also skated, in my opinion, probably an almost pure free skate, that is, the points are still the same huge, plus it was at home in japan. and i just see how he looks at the scores, turns to the coach, laughs, nods his head, goes out, does a clean free program and wins the world championship, such relaxation, ease, plus he himself had to do about five quadruples there, so far nothing who haven’t i seen in particular, sasha, well
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, look, maybe this is a bit of a tough question, but will you ask more? it turns out that i was in the national team for 10 years, and yet i saw a huge number of injuries there even at one of your last starts, like you right in the program he was adjusting his knee brace, that is, it was impossible not to notice, that is, the whole broken one, at the same time, there is no world champion, not a european champion of some kind, not a participant in the olympic games, this path was worth it, of course, i don’t regret that he was, that he is... the way he is, i’m very glad, because i found such an ice family in the person, headed by svetlana vladimirovna, who taught me a lot, explained, showed what and how, let’s say, taught me how to live, and i gained a lot
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friends, and the world looked, visited places where it seems to me that i myself would hardly have ended up if not for figure skating, i still took even those, showed results that many, many also could not get to, where - sometimes there are such thoughts of slight annoyance that here i just didn’t get it right, i didn’t get it done, maybe somewhere i didn’t finish it a little, but they don’t cause any sadness, on the contrary, they’re still warm and pleasant. ..
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one of the main ones, without my parents i would not be here and would not be sitting in front of you, everything is very simple, my... my older brother didn’t do figure skating for long, but nevertheless he left the young pioneers at the stadium, the skates remained, i’m small. 4 years, what is the difference between you and your brother? 5 years, well, that is quite a lot, but how long did he ride, that is, at all, he probably rode for about four years, there were
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some skates left, and they gave me away, especially since i lived literally across the road from syup, it ’s not very far to travel that far i wanted, in general , everything in my career turned out so that i am probably one of the few who practically doesn’t know... from such a moment that it takes an hour, an hour and a half, two hours to get to the skating rink, and all this passed me by, and i’m very glad about it, i could go to a neighboring town during this time, so i should cross the road here skating rink, here's your brother's skates and go skating, here's skating, your brother, whose skates you got, never once in your life regretted that you didn't continue skating and didn't achieve those you, i think not, because somehow uh it turned out that initially our parents sent us, this is also a little funny, not
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where we ourselves wanted, that is, my brother wanted to go hockey, he was sent to figure skating, i wanted football, football, football, i was also given to figure skating, but at least i don’t regret it, brother, and i don’t think so either, just to be proud, well... back, i think so, yes, i don’t even think so, it is, and it’s very pleasant, i’m glad that my family can be proud of this period of my life, in the absence of international tournaments, we have organized a lot of new ones in russia, with an easy presentation, including including the first channel, the russian figure skating federation, you had the opportunity to compete completely...
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they still lack, as it seems to me, such awareness of what is happening, which actually adds a little ease to them in
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the execution of these elements, and this is quite cool, and such a bell, a signal for you that you need to move and give in to them, well, on the other hand, it’s very i’d like to wish them good health and so... that is, don’t you think it’s too early to show such a level at this age, it’s unknown what will happen to them in the future, so i’d like to wish them good health, so that there’s as little as possible injuries, they have, because after all, it’s their body that is still growing, if this period of maturation of the body goes more smoothly, then that’s great, if they don’t lose what they’re doing now, after all, probably, in my opinion i think i like it better when older guys do it. quadruple jumps, because for me these are still powerful elements, do you think these athletes are now training exactly the same way as you trained, or
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maybe their methodology has somehow changed, maybe there is more physical training or attention is paid something else to still preserve their health? well, i think each headquarters has different training methods, but probably one of the main moments is when you look at someone at a small age... look, i watched when people jumped, one quadruple in a free program and won, some didn’t they jumped in general and also took medals, at their age i fully understand that one sheepskin coat is there, well, two are all, and you’re at the top, they grow up, they look, they looked at neuton chen, who did five or six quadruples, we just have a little different... examples when i looked at people with one quad, and then it turned out that i needed to do one and one was no longer enough and i needed two, three and four, that is, i had to somehow
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accelerate very sharply, they were already plus- minus they see what they need to strive for, what they want, and so on. well, we continue the free program podcast, our guest is a wonderful figure skater, alexander samarin. have you considered how many years you have been friends with dimka aliyev? literally, i just returned from st. petersburg, where we had a charity show, by the way, tell us about this is about a charity show, it’s a very good story. i’m very glad that this story happened, that this idea succeeded, and that our coaches, our team, svetlana vladimirovna sokolovskaya and evgeniy vladimirovich rukavitsin, made it happen, plus the fact that our coaches are friends, this is their friendship, in fact, we dimka and i also looked at their friendship; for us, it somehow began in the same way, so. organized
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a charity show in st. petersburg for children from various families with various life difficulties, let’s say, very it was great after the show itself, there was still a little time to spend, roughly speaking , a master class, to skate with them on the same ice , to watch with what sparkling eyes they skated, listened and... how many pleasant emotions they received after the show, this very cool, so we all came back very impressed, very glad that we managed to please the young guys, maybe some of them will want to take up figure skating as well. well, in general, i can say thank you on my own behalf, because this is a very unique story, because it’s customary consider that ice shows are more aimed
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at making money from some. figure skating, let's go back to the words with dima about friendship, just the same thing a couple of days ago, for some reason we started talking about this topic and we figured it out. that around the age of nine, we’ve probably been friends, probably about nine years ago we met for the first time, somehow it all started spinning, spinning and i just know why i thought about it, because after the spartakiad, dima literally set fire to the mizone there with his commentary on what happened on the ice and what is happening in russian figure skating in general,
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which caused some kind of flurry of different... absolutely emotions, literally the next day his friend sashka samarin comes out, who is generally ending his career, that is, you think so closely in the same way and support each other even in such situations, so i just wanted to not say this observation, well , i just had to put out a little of this fire that was raging there on the internet, but again you decided to cover it with your broad with your back, well, after all, a senior comrade should have, well, since... we started talking about what was going on on the internet, these are comments from fans and so on, you always had a fairly large army of fans throughout your career, for you you were sick, i actually saw it at the stadiums, maybe you have something final to say to your fans? and i wouldn’t say that i had a very large fan base and fan base, but firstly, it’s also a banner, sorry to interrupt, but firstly, i want. by the way
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, i thank them so much for being with me this i was that they walked this path with me, every year this base grew a little and came up with something new, again, going out on the ice every season, in addition to the motivation of the installations, the coach and so on, the fans also help and help, who from time to time can just write to you out of the blue, say that you are a great fellow, that they really love what you do, wish you health, good luck, success, and so on, this also motivates a little work, progress and do not stop, they also left their mark on my career, again the same banners that
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are already well more in... and such oh, they’re rooting for me there, and that’s very nice, but in general there are a lot of different funny comments about me on the internet, which also make you laugh and smile, which one do you remember most? yes, there were many different ones, starting from all sorts of lumberjacks and everything else, probably ending with that. uh, how they actually support me, that is, but it seems to me, san, that this is also how you feel about it yourself, because, for example, the woodcutter is a really cool guy, first of all, here’s little red riding hood, who saved
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the woodcutter, well, yes, ellie, who saved in the emerald city, but then you know the robot’s program and you’re like, well, you can’t write it, yes, that’s it , so it’s also like... sometimes they tried to play up such moments, it’s very cool that many, again, and the fans, let’s say, bought this little humor in our productions of programs, well, that’s just great, and since you say thank you to my fans, so i say thank you for coming to visit us, in this cozy studio, now we will follow you in a different capacity. a coach, a showman, and maybe someone else, the main thing is that i wish you nothing but success, now all doors are open to you, go to any one and achieve it, call me more often, invite me, i don’t refuse,
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it was a free program podcast, watch all episodes on the website 1tv.ru! ladies and gentlemen, look carefully and don’t say later that you didn’t see it. sawing a man. andrey will be inside this special apparatus until the very end of the trick, no matter what happens. also, let's let's pay attention to this metal saw, diameter. we launched this disk at its partial speed, we don’t want to destroy
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the entire studio here, and yet these small speeds are quite enough for the saw to pass through the illusionist’s body, this happens right before your eyes, friends, and now the long-awaited core trick. the so -called prestige, we, as spectators, want to know whether the saw really went through the illusionist’s body, and if so, whether the illusionist is able to divide his body into two parts, andrey, i’m ready, you’re ready, look carefully, there are no... devices, no tricky systems of mirrors, sitting at home, you see everything the same as if you were here, in this studio, with us. so, just before
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your eyes, the illusionist divided his body into two halves, and this is fundamental. a new version of sawing a person, it differs from previous versions in that the body of the illusionist is not inside a wooden box, it is not attached directly to the collage props, it is not hidden by blankets or screens, everything happens directly before your eyes, this is the most modern, most advanced version of sawing to date, and now let's see if the illusionist can do it. stuff your body after all the deadly manipulations. you
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think it’s impossible, that it’s all computer graphics or editing, but in the world of magic, nothing is impossible. hello, you are looking. cast tricks with you we, illusionists, brothers safronov, andrey, ilya and sergey. to be honest, i watch how some magicians still work the same tricks that worked their colleagues two. 30 and even 100 years ago, and the viewer is still surprised and even utters phrases, well, this is something simply incredible, we have never seen this in our lives, it would seem that the most common trick that is in the arsenal of any magician, and sawing person, a classic of the genre, but in fact this trick is a little over 100 years old, the premiere of this trick took place in 1920, now by the way i ’ll tell you how the illusion genre developed, using an example: this classic today is already the number of sawing
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people. so, on the screen right now is the same illusionist who first demonstrated this act of sawing a person. this is pt selbit. yes. this is a famous london illusionist. so, in 1920, the premiere of this trick took place in one of the london theaters. what’s interesting is that the premiere took place in absolute secrecy, so you understand, in the audience. did this on purpose, he wanted the secret of this trick not to go beyond the boundaries of this theater, second, he wanted to patent it, that is, he kept the secret is kept secret until he patents this trick, a month later the premiere of this trick took place, which means what the trick itself looked like, the illusionist demonstrated a wooden box. stage, he stood on a stand, a charming
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assistant appeared, a classic of the genre, she occupied a horizontal position inside the box, the walls of the box were open, the illusionist took two ropes, with one rope he tied the assistant’s legs, with the second rope he tied the assistant’s neck, then he invited several people from the public who should have hold these two ropes, one held the legs, the second held the girl’s neck, the task was to keep these ropes in a taut position, thus he fixed the girl’s body, demonstrating by creating the illusion that the girl is not going anywhere and remains on this table until the last, absolutely true , and the assistant brought out a large two-handed saw, they began to cut this box, by the way, the saw was really real, real wood , real, you can imagine how long this illusion lasted for 100 years ago, that is, you can imagine how long it takes to saw this wooden wooden box, so that means selbit and his partner sawed it. box, then they moved the two halves
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of the boxes apart, the viewer saw the space between the boxes, moreover, the ropes remained in a taut position, after which the boxes were connected, and the assistant appeared safe and sound, this act was simple, it was a stunning success, it’s true, and this man became the richest magician of that time, but the illusion does not stand still, less than a year has passed since a new one flew into the genre magician, american magic trick. he shows , in my opinion, a completely unique thing, that is, it is relevant even to this day, he replaces the two-handed saw with a huge structure with a circular saw, this is dangerous, he demonstrates how dangerous it is, how real, real, metal it is, that is they pull out a log, lay down the stage, saw it in half, the viewer understands that there is no deception here, then the same... his assistant appears, but here is the next principle
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of the evolution of the genre: look, the assistant is no longer lies down in a wooden box, she lies down on an open table, that is, we see her body from the beginning to the end of the trick, that is, every day he had new assistants, well, it looks like yes, in general, the crane lifts another wall of air, the saw saws her in half, the two halves are separated, after which the crane lowers the two halves, the halves fuse together, the assistant is safe and sound, surely some assistants could really have been hurt, are there any? facts about those accidents that occurred during performance of this trick, there really was such a case, the illusionist’s name was kastanos kasfikis, by the way, this is an illusionist from the soviet union, despite the fact that he was greek by birth, kostanos kasfikis, and his real name was konstantin mikhailovich, but you know that many the ilisionists took a pseudonym to make it look more, well, yes, konstantin mikhailovich somehow sounds non-magical, non-magical. but this
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tragedy did not happen on stage, it happened during his spanish tour, which means he came from one city to another, and he was driving his truck, in the truck, in the back of the truck there was that same illusion device and that same circular saw, during a collision with another car, this saw flew into the cab and hit him... but you know that the story of other facts of that that the illusionist or his assistant was injured during the performance of the sawing act, the history of illusions to us. brings it up, but despite this, we still seem to realize that this act is really dangerous, because that’s how we know that in these acts a real saw is used, so we just saw in the photo, this is a real iron saw, or it is a large saw, round, that is, one wrong movement, or something with a mechanism, or if the assistant did something wrong, then she could really get hurt, well, about
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the danger we will talk about this a little later, now it is very interesting to know that earlier illusionists one way or another covered the body of their charming assistant and only creating an illusion... sawed the body, sawed some, i don’t know, wooden boxes, boxes and so on. i'm sure the viewers who they saw our trick now, they ask themselves one question: before there were five sofronov brothers , or what kind of magic is this that defies any explanation, how this trick was born here, i think it’s interesting for all our viewers to hear, well, as a rule, it’s a long process to come up with something worthwhile, first the three of us get together, three brothers, sit down at the table like this, come up with an idea, draw a drawing, sketch it out, then we connect our technical part, they help us draw more specifically drawing, we try it all, then in the workshop, first on a small model, then a larger one, and after about 3 months or a year a new illusion appears, this is quite a big process, here andrey cheated a little, i must say i
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give that ilya comes up with tricks for us, not only does he sit day and night on these drawings, working out every detail after that... he gives these drawings to the workshops, and does it very cunningly, in order to keep the secret a secret, we are also we looked at my dad, who worked for tushinsky machine-building plant and they were given a fragment of parts for a buran spaceship, they did not know what they were doing, they were simply given a drawing, they made the part according to the drawing and sent it to the address where it was required, only then did they find out that it turned out to be fragment of buran, so we work using the same technology, we are in the same workshop for...
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the artist is there, no matter what genre he works in, is it illusionary, or is it just some kind of circus, original genre, no matter how inspiring it is with new ideas, he can read a book there, yes, go outside, into the garden, go into nature, climb the mountains, he can just watch some movie and get some idea from there, yeah, but in fact, i’ll tell you that everything this is romance and all this works very poorly, so for it to work well, you need to lock yourself in a room, clean it up. by the way, i saw this principle among american illusionists. peneteiler, yes, peneteiler, exactly, i saw this principle in these illusions. peneteyler looked at this principle from charlie chaplin, who also worked on the scripts of his films, he rented a hotel room, asked
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that all the sofa beds be taken out, there was only one desk and chair, where he locked himself in this room until he came up with a plot - but for his film or as for penna and teleler, until they came up with , they didn’t come up with a new trick, they didn’t leave this hotel room and continued to work until the last minute. we, as i understand it, have the same principle, yes, this is the real most effective principle. well, okay, you avoided the question, but nevertheless, how much does our illusion device cost? sawn, looking at it, it’s an ordinary metal structure, plywood, the filling itself, this is the most expensive, this is the main thing, how many millions - the device - it’s all about. this is not the most important thing, the most important thing is precisely that core, that mechanism that, that magic, that magic that brings everything, magic is the most expensive thing, a high-quality illusion device costs about several million rubles. remember how long it took us to make our first one.

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