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yes, but then we also had several very deep conversations on this topic, and when i explained, well, the main message, the concept, in general, why we were doing this, and he, of course , reviewed all of this, we, you know, were deeply immersed in your desires regarding musical experiments, we heard that you respect jazz, i respect you, we invite you to perform a song, don’t interrupt, illegal right to opportunity, you are not an unraveled thread around the heat, you are carried by a stream of wind, along the broken, barely breathing glass of other people’s windows, i've talked about this more than once
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i repeated, i endured, i was looking for silence, but the sky was louder than it told me then, and i stayed to listen to the fairy tale, don’t interrupt me, music, don’t offend me.
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next level of difficulty, you love björk, yes, you love björk, we decided to help you with this, what’s going on, this is completely unexpected, yes, absolutely, now try to sing the war song and the moon, wow... wow, so, she heavenly, she’s wrong, it wasn’t me, she’s a word in the sky, someone will say, yes, yes, it was fate, it’s my dream in heaven, i’m not dreaming, it was a long time ago, don’t circle above it, it’s better tell me why it’s not with me, out of sadness...
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you should have said that i look like a wolf for two weeks like the moon, if you wait a little and don’t lose what i see, because i look like a lonka, i sing to the moon, but! forgot, listen, cool, you are definitely united by music competitions, yes, it turns out that even more popularity came to you with the advent of a vocal competition in your life, is this a voice, a voice?
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i was 14 years old at the time, i always dreamed of participating in this project, but i always understood that where should i go, i’m a boy, i then i was from st. petersburg, i played football every day, and for me to get on television, on the main channel of the country. this is generally, well, what is this, my brother once took a computer, submitted an application, then applications were accepted on the website, yeah, he told me about it, i took it all as a joke, a month later i come back from the football field, he says: they answered us from the first channel, we went to moscow for a casting, and we started learning songs, i went to the teacher, and this is where my first step into the musical world began, it’s cool, akmal, right now you are standing here next to this button. back to us, back to us, facing
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the people, facing the people, and don’t peek, your task will be to press the button at the moment when nyusha starts singing, but... it won’t be so easy for you, because our voices will changed, oh yes, don’t say that we knew, you feel the light between us, we wanted so much, we were looking for so much, happiness is on the wing like a tsunami, don’t say that we were late, you feel the light... so who was it? okay, you guessed right, turn around, but to the voice out of a thousand you can, now the button magically disappears, and we move on, so
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the next information, i read here that it turns out that you want to do rhinoplasty, so tell me, is it jaundice, is it jaundice or is it real. i’ve already found a doctor, that’s all, i just need to be most afraid, i’ve already put aside the money, i ’m already going to go and do it, but i’m afraid, akmal, you and your mentor with vasily, that’s it,
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right, right, everything’s right, right , and you have the same song titles, right, you have a slow one, he has a slow one, he has slow, huh. a lot has been combined here, but tell me, were you inspired by this song, and so it happened, it worked out, how in general, to tell you honestly, of course, yes, yes, something i see, something these artists earn so well on these here's graduation, at least someone, i 'm sitting in the studio, i'm sitting in the studio and open notes on my phone and look, i have poems, i wrote them in some hotel, while i was at a concert, they're something about school there are connected, i’ll take it now and not combine these songs into one another, so that it turned out, well, let's call it a fashionable bootlek, oh god, you know, so to speak,
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let's move on, in the end we have here, that's why yes, here it's kind of necessary to somehow correspond to it, so let's please, i'm not with you i’m dancing slow, and you ’re so beautiful on the cap, and you won’t know what i wanted to tell you about, today the last bell rings, seeing you, i switch off to zero, and how can i make you remember our love. i’m dancing, slow guy, you’re so beautiful in heels, and you won’t know what i wanted to tell you about, now look, slow, so that you cry and they all sound the same, not banal and not
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talented, but i took the guitar and played it in time, and you are yours, and you are about to. 17 years old, i just wanted to please you, and i picked up the guitar and played it, sang along the roads, i’m walking desperately, our dialogue was random, i won’t rub myself for our love, i ’ll never come back to you for anything, along the roads, i i’m walking desperately, our dialogue was accidental, i won’t fight for you for our love. i'll never come back to you, you know, that's how it is it happens, like this, anton, i think you need to make a hit on this wonderful note, i don’t mind, since you are art that love broadcasts through itself, yeah, i suggest that
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this song should also be about love, yes , well, i have a line, you know what’s in my head, maybe i was born for the first time in my life, love is you and me, love is you and me, yes, you and me, love is yours, maybe love is yours eyes, love is me and you, where there is light, there is no place, well, like darkness, for darkness, for darkness, for emptiness, for emptiness, for emptiness, maybe be. love is you and me, love is just look into my eyes, so love is you and me, just look into my eyes, love is me and you, where there is light, let all dreams be, love is me and me, just look into my eyes, love is me and you. let there be dreams, love is you and me,
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just look at my eyes, love is me and you, let there be absolutely dreams, my friends, today in the studio we had amazing artists and musicians - this is the singer nyusha , wonderful akmal, my wonderful co-hosts karina cross, vale carnival, gypsy band, exactly. i’m waiting for you at the entrance until the morning, how
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i shed tears on the ground, how i shouted to you, i won’t come and broke my hands, i’ll decorate because of you, you tell about us, to the whole world, how i brought you a flower, i bouquets, how i waited until the morning, i’ll wait for you at the entrance. how you shed tears on the ground, how i screamed at you, i won’t come and broke my hands, i’m standing up for you, there’s no light in my eyes, what are you talking about, you say that you’ve changed, maybe you’ve just grown up, your words and notations only convey to your tears, stop sharing my bed with yours tear it up come on, come on, get out, you are from my soul,
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you are like poison, you are a very strong poison, once again i look into your eyes and body, as if crucified, one two, three, i finished what we started in my affairs, more you don’t see love, no matter how much you try to change me, i will repeat to you, you tell us about us, why to the world, how i brought you flowers. i waited until the morning at the entrance, wait for you, i shed tears on the ground as i screamed at you, i won’t come, and i broke my hands in public for you. i'm waiting for you, i'm waiting for myself, i'm waiting for you.
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hello dear friends, this is a podcast the life of the wonderful, i am with you, alexey varlamov, my guest is the famous tv presenter, journalist, fyokla tolstaya, and we will talk about the wonderful scientist, slavist, academician niki. and this is thekla’s father, yes, and i must say that thekla and i
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have known each other for a long time, and many times we have been in the opposite situation, when thekla asked questions and i answered, so today we are changing roles, and i am very interested in what kind of conversation we will have , especially since the topic is very expensive and very important. nikita ilyach turns 100 this year, here we are let's talk about him as your father, as a wonderful... scientist, as a person who once made an amazing impression on me, as on many students of the faculty of philology of moscow state university, because he was completely different, he was not looks like no one else, he has... his speech, his movement, his gestures, it was something completely incredible,
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what are your memories of your father? we must tell our viewers that my father has been gone for more than a quarter of a century. unfortunately, he died in ninety-six, but really in on the twenty-third we celebrate the centenary of his birth, i have memories, of course , very, very warm, homely, when you say that he was not like others, then a child, a daughter - this does not understand and does not - does not realizes, but i’ve always been a daddy’s girl, and maybe i’ll say something completely different, about philology, we ’ll talk about serious things later, it seems to me that what i...
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schools, and he, by the way, starred in cinema, once, yes, yes, yes, he acted in films several times, once they were traveling with my mother in the subway to work, there, i don’t know, from trityakovskoe to leninsky prospekt, and he was caught just in the subway, by the director’s assistant, because of his big beard, oh, please tell me, do you have such a beard, and you don’t want act in a movie, something like that, dad, which means he’s going to some meeting of the presidium of the academy of sciences. or something like that, he says: well, what do you want, what is the actual proposal? here we are looking for extras for the film by sergei fedovovich banderchuk, boris godunov. well, okay , maybe that means dad was terribly happy, canceled all his academic affairs for several days, and stood as an extra in the film boris godunov in the coronation scene, which
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was filmed in zagorsk at the trinity lavra of sergeev, although the action takes place essentially, of course. if they called him from work or something like that, he says: you don’t say that i’m filming, you say that i’m very, very busy, so he was terribly interested in this, and he also didn’t tell anyone there that he is an academician, no one knew, no, he didn’t know, the only thing is that dad, that was also the end of the eighties of people who know church services well and behavior in general.
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that i remember very well how my dad and i went to church, he took me, we, we, i wanted to say, lived, but we also live, continue to live on the ordynka and this is just such a zamoskvorechie, such a corner of moscow, where several more remained churches, and several churches were open, i remember i went to church during holy week, joy to all who mourn, and he stood there, nikita
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ilyevich was there for sure, and we went - it was eight-four years ago. was so his favorite holiday, he always took me, but i wanted to say something that still persisted, somehow he supported it, such an old moscow tradition that you go to church on easter, for the religious procession, at the beginning of the service, then we were there for some time, well, maybe not for long, because i was still a girl, then you return home and break your fast after fasting, then you go to some other church, then later. you go to visit one, another, or guests came to us, and this is such a night full, full on the one hand of some holiday and festive campaigns - too. but i was very shocked by this story with the cinema, because i was just now preparing there , i read some memoirs about nikita ilych, a lot has been written,
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nothing is said about cinema, but this is exactly what you inherited, you after all, i also filmed, i started from this, that i had this kind of artistic beginning and i inherited a craving for this from my dad, and i acted as a child, i was also caught just by my dad’s beard, and someone came to me at school like that... and on the stairs, i remember lakhmaty, since then i always go to lakhmaty, and we ended up on my classmate and i, they put us on the cover of the leader magazine, then they came a second time some people from the gorky children's film studio, again, so look, come to the girl here, we sent you and me to the file cabinet of this children's gorky studio and then i starred in several films, and dad something like this, well, well that is, you starred earlier than dad. i filmed before my dad, yes, apparently he my childhood fame haunted me, but he also said that it was necessary, we had to act, you were acting, and i will
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act, i had an interesting story with this gorky studio, also connected with fat people, so i already had several films under my belt when i was, i don’t know, 13-14 years old, at that moment our famous great director gerasimov was filming a film by leo tolstoy. i come to gorky's studio, there are such old chairs, high, i sit down, and i see that makarova is doing makeup next to me, and i mean, a little i’m trembling, but some people are trying to trick me
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, i don’t know that some bagels are coming here or something, auditions are starting, they have photographs, they’re all talking, they’re saying, oh my god, how similar, well, how similar, well, how did you find it like that, say the assistants, well, how similar, and my mother and i, i was still with my mother, it means that we’re not under age, we shake it like that, my great-grandfather’s sister, but still like some kind of... then tolstoy’s blood, but they didn’t understand that they were calling a person from the same family, so, but then events developed funny, that when it turned out that i was fat, all this meant somehow they became even more interested, then it turned out that my uncle, wonderful as i know, maybe... this is not true, but that’s what they told me, wonderful ilya vladimirovich, read, wait uncle ilyusha, wrote a rather devastating review of gerasimov’s script, in general, i didn’t
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play alexander lvov, but somehow they preferred, yes, well, no, maybe i just played poorly at the audition, the same thing happens, well, now after all let's turn a little to history, come on, come on, let's figure it out, so nikita ilyich tolstoy, your father, right? this is how he relates to lev nikolaevich, because with fat people there it is very difficult to figure out who is who, yes, lev nikolaevich is the most large father in russian literature in such a large russian literature and to understand who is fat, here you are, you how fat they are, as my third cousin petya tolstoy says, you know leo tolstoy, so to speak, i mean the beard, then watch your hands, our line of russian fat people now comes from there aren’t many fat people in russia at all. comes from the second son of leo nikolaevich and sofia andreevna, from ilya lvovich tolstoy. yes. ilya lvovich got married before his other children. the first granddaughter of lev
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nikolaevich is the daughter of ilya lvovich and sofia nikolaevna filosofova. and then they had a daughter, then four sons, then another girl and a boy , also quite a large family, well, in general, in those days it was not such a rarity. all four boys. it so happened, we ended up in military schools, in cadet corps, as it was called then, my grandfather studied in the naval cadet corps in petersburg, and there are wonderful photographs of his cadet, and even before the revolution, even before the revolution, as a young midshipman, he sailed on the aurora, it was a fairly modern ship, where he did his internship, probably it’s something like that among sailors, that is, he sailed, i’m also saying it wrong, i went to the aurora, here's some one. his service, first as a student, then he continued his real service, here is another who studied in moscow, in the cadet corps, the eldest of these from these four.
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took part in the first world war, and then, when the civil war began, then all four brothers end up in the white army, three end up in the southern direction, and my grandfather, like a seaman, he makes his way to the east and joins kolchak’s army, it turns out he was the personal of general capel, that’s my father, when i got this...
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stories , yes, my grandfather, it turns out that we don’t have his memories, but we know that he took part in this siberian ice campaign, there was another ice campaign, that’s when they, when they were 2,000 km, if i’m not mistaken , passed through the winter, and there is a story that he was taken out several times to be shot, once he escaped execution, as my father told me, by the fact that he had already been captured, which means they simply put him up against the wall, and then he... probably believing that he was red, he believed that he was red, why who another may now take his life altogether, then he began to properly, well, it’s just like before death, everything he thinks about the reds is to say and cover them with good, good naval obscenities, then, that means, these who have become somehow we thought, maybe it’s still him, he’s not communist, in general, by some miracle my grandfather managed to survive, although in the emigrant newspapers
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they already wrote: that he was shot, then there was news that he died of typhoid, but still unconscious in the last ambulance train, he taken to china, somehow through, that means, chita, somewhere there, he, he ends up in china, in harbin, then in shanghai, then he begins to find out where his family is, and somehow i still i don’t understand how they figured it out, he finds out that his family is in europe in... immigration, i have to pause here, i’m telling you all this like this, you know cinema, and for me this is really cinema, and to be honest, i want to make a documentary in cinema, so my third brother volodya tolstoy, the grandson of another of those brothers whom i am talking about now, we want to make a film about the history of our grandfathers and about my father, which means the other three grandchildren of tolstoy, mikhail ilyich, andrei ilyich and vladimirich, find themselves moving in a southern direction and, unfortunately, here is one. brother
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dies from typhus, and the other brother is already at perekop, which, which is on that isthmus that connects crimea to the mainland partly, when the reds are advancing, he stands up at full height above the trench and simply from some kind of revolver or something begins to shoot at point-blank range - a chain of reds, which in general was suicide, it turns out to be such madness, yes, yes.
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but he also complained to me, i remember this very well, that he was not allowed to play in the yard with serbian boys until he was 5 years old, because he had to learn russian properly and... they named him nikita, and it was a conscious decision my grandfather, because he only wanted a russian name, which does not exist in others, in other slavic languages ​​among the serbs. one more small detail about his baptism, that when they came to the orthodox church in serbia to baptize nikita, the priest refused to baptize nikita, because he didn’t know any nikita, let’s call him nikolai, let’s call him whatever you want, but i will baptize as i know, as i know how. grandfather reached some metropolitan, it means serbian, who said: “i know such a russian name, you can baptize nikita,” so the enemies baptized him nikita. then there is this one photograph of how my father sits with this,
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you see, now i wear it after the death of my father with such a tolstoy ring, where the coat of arms of the fat people is, that means, apparently he was allowed to wear this for the photograph, he sits very proudly like this, which means showing family, family. tolstoy, and he studied in a russian gymnasium, i understand correctly, yes, they came to belgrade so that he could continue his education in a russian gymnasium, of course, it was also an amazing gymnasium, where many taught, it was in a russian house or not, yes, that means, now, also in the year twenty-three , the ninetieth anniversary of the russian house is being celebrated, this is a house, just so to speak, a russian house, which was built by russian architects, because there was a very large immigration, it is believed that the immigration is russian i was in serbia.
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ends up in the soviet union and becomes a soviet student at moscow state university, and then with
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a soviet scientist and so on, but the most important thing between these two is the war, yes, this is the second world war, where nikita ilyich takes the most active part as a partisan, and then as a red army soldier, and these are some kind of complete paradoxes. stories, yes, father, uncles, whites, he turns red, he said somewhere about himself that i am the only fat red army soldier, that’s how it happened, well, it’s generally amazing, of course, such a historical turn that took place in our family , and this is a conversation not only about my father, and not only about my grandfather, his brother , these fat serbians, shuri about the russian emigration and the choices that they make already exactly, and this is also a conversation about the fact that they simply managed to somehow change their destiny, there was.
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fat wild, there is something wild, this is very about our line of ilyaches, this is very, very suitable, i’m like that, i smile, and you approach, lev nikolaevich also wrote that you smile, because we imagine modern fat people , who would also be like that, and i, too, of course, can be wild and naughty. but that’s not about that now, which means that in my opinion the bombing of belgrade began on april 6 , 1941, my father is still finishing, this is the last class of his gymnasium, there is a photograph of how... he stands in absolutely tattered rags, so thin as a stick, such a victim, because his first job was that before he even graduated from the gymnasium, he was sorting out rubble, he was carrying bricks to bombed houses in belgrade, they just somehow put it in order, i don’t know, dismantled it, then they find themselves leaving belgrade, where there is already hunger, and come to vladimirovich tolstoy, who worked as an agronomist in the city of novy bichei on...
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in russia home, but i can't imagine imagine that the bolsheviks and i would be like bunin, have some kind of common cause, and he left when the germans were retreating, he went to paris, then went to america, our aunties live in america now, i think , that they were ready to cooperate with the red army when they remained, because the wonderful army was ready to cooperate with them, this is true, general, i’m afraid i’ll make a mistake in his
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last name, which is known to describe the meetings of his soviet general, the soviet general who their met, and which was for him it’s amazing that here in the serbian outback in the balkans two grandsons of tolstoy are doing, and apparently this conversation is very important, they are not just emigrants, not just whites, they are fat, and this immediately inspires trust, because no matter what the soviet regime was so harsh, but the thick one is the fat one, it’s true, and of course we understand that further i...
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his red army book is his first document in general, for the first time he found himself among russian people, not just emigrants. here are the russian people, so to speak, the original and soviet, they became emigrants, there were almost numbers 001 and 002, there was a stalinist call for return, my grandfather had an id, a certificate of repatriation number 001, my grandmother had 002, my dad had 003, vladimir had 4, and so on and so forth, when they returned to the soviet union in august 1945, i found them at the dacha and couldn’t understand what kind of...
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shut up, shut up, yes, that is, they had to fit into this soviet reality, which is not at all the way they dreamed of her, yes, of course, and this this this the memory of oleg oleg vladimirovich tolstoy, who here, his son peter talks about this, and this probably largely
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determined their future lives. my father, at that moment, when they returned to russia, was still in the red army, but then he succeeded in september. already to join, he received the appropriate permission to enter moscow university, that was also interesting, they accepted front-line soldiers without any exams, but he was a little late, he had to go to the rector of the university, that’s interesting also that my father really wanted to study history, but my grandfather, understanding what the soviet union was all about, he said: no, you can’t study history, it’s too ideological a science. yes, my father said: “well , you know how i love literature, how i love poetry.” my father adored poetry, he simply had a brilliant knowledge of the poetry of the silver age, because all this was available in immigration, all these publications, both pre-revolutionary and emigrant, he loved gumilyov as he did, he instilled this love in me, when this name was still just here
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it’s forbidden, to this my grandfather says no too, and this is not allowed, because it’s very ideological, well, okay, but at least i can use languages. study, well, this is possible, yes, this was before, so he becomes a linguist, so he becomes a linguist, he speaks at the philological faculty, but he enters the slavic department, precisely because this is this idea of ​​​​being russian and the idea to study the roots, but still of russian, slavic culture, he was very little interested in any german studies or romance, some french philosophy, absolutely, and this and this... this is very very clear from his biography of a child born in a foreign land, but still, of course, this is a brilliant choice of slavic studies, because he, he is belingua, complete, he is beautiful knows, he speaks serbian like russian, he studies bulgarian at the faculty of philology, he knows russian tradition, he
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writes works on the old church slavonic language, his dissertation is devoted to the old church slavonic language, he has made a brilliant scientific career, but he has never done. party, he had a fairly free faculty, yes, he had the opportunity, he had balconistics at the institute of slavic studies, where he worked all his life, he had a group, which consisted mainly of his students, and in general dad created his own scientific, scientific school and his own scientific direction,
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ethnolinguistics, but it’s interesting that he had a very broad outlook, that ’s exactly what he then... began to deal with, this attitude to soviet life, soviet realities, so he was there to some extent disciplines, but what was it like for him after all , this is exactly such a junction of different different connected with dissidents or not at all, and what did he think about all this, i don’t know there soldanitsien, shalamov, academician sakharov, somehow these appeared topics in the house, a dissident is a very active civic position, my father’s position was that he lived as if not noticing the soviet regime, but i...

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